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LordReagent101

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"Currently accepting arguments against deleting this thread and banning everybody in it."

Dime a dozen janny who goes mad with internet power to ban things he doesn't like.
I doubt Null would have actually deleted the thread and banned everyone in it. Null rarely ever outright nukes threads like that and if he had done that, it would have caused quite a stir on the Farms considering the type of subject matters that regularly get covered on the site, even people who arent on the anime side of things would have seen something like that as bullshit.

He probably just said it like that just to fuck with people in the thread though if he actually wanted to understand what people saw in vtubers perhaps he should have worded things abit more diplomatically and not insinuate that people in the thread who do like vtubers are closet pedophiles.
 

Halo

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seems they've updated the rules of the thread :laugh:
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its not Varish :seething::seething::seething::seething::seething::seething:
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oh also @DarkMahesvara didn't you archive all those?
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NretsewThePerv

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>no thirstposting
Do you all respect Ottman, Jack and all those jackasses as well? Because to me it seems Null is just a level lower than Torba.
fucken this tbh

like I can give him credit for starting and running the farms all this time but that doesn't mean he earns my respect as a person

he has basically become one of the very lolcows the farms set out to document. It's a fitting and ironic end tbh. to die a hero or live long enough to see your self become the villain. far as I'm concerned he has chosen the part of the puritan and should be treated as such
 

Hibiki

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I held quite a bit of respect for Null given what he had to go through to keep the site going for as long as he has, but yeah the general anti-anime meltdown his been going through for past while is plain ridiculous. While he never liked anime before, he was never particularly antagonistic towards it before the 9chan incident. Suppose this was an inevitability though since for as much as I had used the Farms as a place to lurk in after 8chan died. Imageboard culture and KF culture while similar at a glance in how anti-pc they are, couldn't be more different which is the big reason why I had stopped using it after a good while. KF is a lot more hostile towards many elements of otaku culture that would have been seen as fairly normal on any other imageboard. I know KF has a sub-forum for anime topics, but I'm not a fan of the people that inhabit it. Many come off as being the exact type of people I dislike in the general western anime community where its full of normalfags who dislike any fun aspects of anime like fan-service, lolis, etc.

That all being said, I just find it crazy that he had even locked the thread at all. KF has threads about fat people eating themselves to death, troons mutilating themselves in the most disgusting manner possible, furries fucking real animals, and even hosted the video about that one guy shooting up a mosque in spite of NZ law enforcement pressures, but vtubers is where he draws the line. Clown world man.
I know 9chan was a disaster but I wasn't interested on it so I didn't pay too much attention, exactly what part of it caused him to start hating anime/lolis?
 

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seems they've updated the rules of the thread :laugh:
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What kills me about his 'concerns' is that the vtuber thread on KF was one of the cleanest and most polite discussion threads for vtubers on the Internet to the point where they actively had distain for coomerposting. It really is a case of Null not understanding something and sperging the fuck out to cope with being a shotacon-in-denial. He likely doesn't even view it as being legitimately pedophilic. You know what I, and any reasonable person for that matter, would do when I see something or someone in my sphere of Internet influence that I think is legitimately pedo? I ban it, full stop, no messing around, zero-fucking-tolerance. I don't give them a chance to 'make their case.'
 

NretsewThePerv

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I know 9chan was a disaster but I wasn't interested on it so I didn't pay too much attention, exactly what part of it caused him to start hating anime/lolis?

I think I recall him saying in some stream (might have been the one I linked in this thread before) that "the loli posters" as he put it were the same people trying to post real CP and talking about real CP related topics and he knew this as said posters have the same hash codes or some techno shit.

and it was this experience that leads him down the path of no longer being tolerant of loli and to an extent anime. ofc i could be wrong but this is just going off what I recall hearing so unless someone can source it consider it romour.

I don't know much about how 9chan failed other than that tho.
 

Hibiki

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I think I recall him saying in some stream (might have been the one I linked in this thread before) that "the loli posters" as he put it were the same people trying to post real CP and talking about real CP related topics and he knew this as said posters have the same hash codes or some techno shit.

and it was this experience that leads him down the path of no longer being tolerant of loli and to an extent anime. ofc i could be wrong but this is just going off what I recall hearing so unless someone can source it consider it romour.

I don't know much about how 9chan failed other than that tho.
Well, I have 15k weaboos following me, most of them into lolis, and I never had any of those issues, even when I tried to start an imageboard, maybe the issue is not the loli posters but the audience they tried to gather, I imagine 9chan was shilled in all the shady image boards and that ended up attracting that kind of people. Which is exactly what we didn't want to do because we knew things would go to shit extremely quickly.
 

Halo

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Do you all respect Ottman, Jack and all those jackasses as well?
Ottman is a backstabbing arse, Jack is a fag, and Torba is fucking insane. All of them have had companies handed to them, had all the chances to make it right, and still manage to fuck it up.
Null ain't a godsend saviour, makes stupid decisions at times, but he's done his best to keep his site alive and his community around.
I know 9chan was a disaster but I wasn't interested on it so I didn't pay too much attention, exactly what part of it caused him to start hating anime/lolis?
he seemed to tolerate it until the retards on 9chan pushed him way over edge. I know cp was spammed on there, and he constantly had some guy spamming him to allow lolis on all boards.
I imagine 9chan was shilled in all the shady image boards and that ended up attracting that kind of people.
From what I remember they had it advertised on 4chan so yeah it was inevitable they got a load of spergs
 

immahnoob

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Ottman is a backstabbing arse, Jack is a fag, and Torba is fucking insane. All of them have had companies handed to them, had all the chances to make it right, and still manage to fuck it up.
Null ain't a godsend saviour, makes stupid decisions at times, but he's done his best to keep his site alive and his community around.
By being the same sperg like Torba, Ottman and Jack, right? They're all the same thing, only that they fucked up in different directions at first then continued to fuck up, which is what Null is doing. Do you idolize Hotwheels as well at this point? I mean, he was the great 8ch creator, and 8ch was good for a while.
 

NretsewThePerv

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Ottman is a backstabbing arse, Jack is a fag, and Torba is fucking insane. All of them have had companies handed to them, had all the chances to make it right, and still manage to fuck it up.

they keep fucking it up the moment it looks like they might start making real money off it. form investors or otherwise

it's the same old story. these people will use "free speech/expression" as a marketing ploy to draw in everyone then as SOON as the money starts rolling in they put the rug out from under us. I would suggest watching this as the dude is on point IMO https://peertube.anon-kenkai.com/videos/watch/c92631cf-6b1e-4814-88d2-428bf2e99d79

back to null. I think it's less about money. more about the fact that after what happened with 9chan he saw the worst spergy shit out there and now just assumes everyone is like that. and tbf there are a lot of dumb fuck "CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY GOTA POST CUNNY CUNNY CUNNY" everywhere fuckers that don't help. yes, I'm sure spamming cunny everywhere and acting like a fucken furry is gonna help your case that you are a sance indavural /s.

but that's beside the point. he is running off a generalization from a past experience that's being fueled by the community he himself has fostered on the farms. you just have to look at some of the posts highlighted in the Vtuber cringe thread that is also pushing anti degeneracy shit. so it's just becoming a feedback loop of confirmation bias that's reinforcing his bullshit

or maybe I'm just overthinking this at almost 1AM
 

Halo

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By being the same sperg like Torba, Ottman and Jack, right?
No not at all. Null never made a platform to replace anything, he isn't like torba or ottman cause he didn't advertise KF as some replacement where you'll have your free speech and this and that. He just runs a forum where you talk about autistic people on the internet.
They're all the same thing,
No they really aren't.
Do you idolize Hotwheels as well at this point?
never idolized him in the first place lol.

they keep fucking it up the moment it looks like they might start making real money off it. form investors or otherwise
Thats how its always been. At the end of a day they're companies trying to make money. We just gotta stop falling for the lies
 

NretsewThePerv

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Thats how its always been. At the end of a day they're companies trying to make money. We just gotta stop falling for the lies

this is why I call any and all "free speech alternatives" scams and grifts until I see them take hardline stances to truly protect things like loli and other forms of porn people find gross and icky. as ALL OF THEM so far and gone down the exact same path and people are still dumb enough to just take them at their word even after being burned so many times

I'm never gonna not be smug about the fact I FUCKEN TRYED TO WARN YOU ALL ABOUT FUCKEN MINDS a good mouth to a few weeks before dicey got yetted. I know this is off topic but I fucken called that shit as it already happened in 2016. and I knew as SOON as trads started mass reporting shit it was gonna happen again.

BUT NOOOOOO Nretsew ITS FIIIIIINE he said. THINGS HAVE CHANGED he said. IM SURE ITS A MISUNDERSTANDING he said.

but anyway I agree null is another case and not the same as Torba or ottocuck, and I think as I said in my other post he has become the lolcow. and on some level, you have to be a Giga sperg to run something like the farms to start with. so this should not be shocking to anyone
 

Halo

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this is why I call any and all "free speech alternatives" scams and grifts until I see them take hardline stances
A good rule for any new sites. Like I said at the end of the day they're companies and are gonna bend over to get that money.
Anyone who expects a company to be looking out for their best interests, is optimistic at best, borderline retarded at worst.
I think as I said in my other post he has become the lolcow.
He is most definitely a lolcow, but nothing like Torba or Ott, i agree there. Then again anyone who says they wouldn't become a gigasperg after running a site like KF for years is lying.
doesn't mean he's immune to criticism though
 

Grönsak

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this is why I call any and all "free speech alternatives" scams and grifts until I see them take hardline stances to truly protect things like loli and other forms of porn people find gross and icky. as ALL OF THEM so far and gone down the exact same path and people are still dumb enough to just take them at their word even after being burned so many times
If you want to know if a forum have freedom of speech. Ask them if you can argue for and against things like pedophilia or bestiality or any other philia because that's usually over the line for fairly obvious reasons. And at the top of my head I can only think of one forum that actually allows that.

Note: This is just for the principle I'm not saying this place should adopt that. Like Hibiki points out it would draw the wrong attention to this place.
 
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