I'd also like to take this time to also refute a common argument whenever these screenshots are presented, and dismissed because
- The people in the image are not related to them/They do not know who the person in the image is.
- Just because they share the same opinion/stances on things, does not mean they are equally horrible and/or have committed equally horrible crimes/harm.
- It doesn't make the point less valid just because said person(s) in the screenshots are actual pedophiles/groomers/sex pests/rapists.
For one, the person in the image is related to them because they share the same beliefs.
- They believe lolicon is immoral;
- It allegedly normalizes pedophilia.
- It allegedly encourages child abuse.
- It allegedly is illegal (specifically in the US, due to most Antis being from the country known for its diabetes and obesity).
- Despite the fact the above are false, it is, at the end of the day, disgusting, and thus immoral and criminal.
- They believe censorship is the answer;
- It allegedly will prevent the problems they believe will come from it existing (problems listed in 1).
- Despite the fact it does not, at the end of the day, it pushes the task of filtering their online bubble onto others (particularly big corporations and corrupt governments).
- They believe murder is the answer;
- This will allegedly eliminate those they illegally slander as pedophiles, thus prevent harm to minors.
- Despite the fact those people are practically never actual criminals nor individuals inclined to harm, it will sate their sadistic urges.
- For individuals inclined to harm, the possibility of therapy and research is completely ignored due to their dehumanization.
While it doesn't necessarily prove that they all, as individuals, like the same foods and the same media (despite these specific people being easily categorized into decently sized subgroups who DO like the same media), they DO share the exact same arguments (with the exact same premises), conclusions, and rationalizations, and thus for the sake of productive discussion (or what exists of it), it's convenient to group them all as one group: Antis.
TL;DR: They're faggots with the same faggotry. They aren't different. It's obvious as fuck.
While they share the same opinions as convicted pedophiles, rapists, groomers, sex pests, nazis, fascists, eugenicists, and so on, they claim that they have NOT committed similar crimes/are NOT going to commit similar crimes.
In fact, you could call it a fallacy to even claim that because a "few freaks" have been caught in their group, all of them are also criminals; Faulty Generalization.
However, there's a neat thing about logic: the more black ravens you see, it is a little more evidence that all ravens are black.
This entire forum megathread, this
KiwiFarms thread, various Twitter Threads (some of which are linked/archived here), have archived numerous instances of Antis who have:
- Doxxed people
- Including various LGBT people in countries where such identities are illegal and could result in their public execution
- The irony being that a subgroup of Antis often identify as LGBT
- Entire Families
- Once they find someone's identity, they often go out and also dox their family members via Guilt by Association
- DaftPina is a celebrity example of someone who doxxed an artist, despite not being a Lolicon Artist, due to fictional characters' ages.
- It's also possible that TinaFate may be unconsciously LGBT due to their shared nature of trying to present themselves as the opposite sex.
Which is ironic, for someone who likes to preach about LGBT rights.
- Despite claims that the harassment campaign is coincidentally lined up with the Sora artwork post and not the cause of harassment, he has made statements before regarding lolicon media as immoral, and may be one of the reasons he justified doxxing them.
- His actions also have led others of his ilk to dox his family under the justification said above.
- @iamlunasol is an individual who is being stalked by various TikTok users due to drawing problematic art in general, and have tried to cause real world problems to her.
- Encouraged harassment/threats towards Lolicons, Artists, and VTubers
- Various artists have left Twitter due to threats of being in trouble with foreign laws, or due to massive waves of death threats directed at them.
- Various VTubers, specifically those in English-speaking communities, are also threatened in the same manner, and encouraged by their peers.
- Kyuotto is a well-known example of said harassment.
- Shown blatant disregard to real minors and the harm upon them
- Actively encourages others of their ilk to file false reports to the FBI and other child protection organizations, wasting precious time and resources.
- Some of which are actual minors, who are encouraged to talk about and engage with pornography and its various forms by these Antis.
- A notable case was with an account Content Creators Against Child Exploitation (@CCACE_), who claimed to be an organization reporting anything related to lolicon to the FBI, and encouraged others to do the same. It is run by @suzyqqvt/@suzyqlewd (same person).
- Ignores cases of real children being hurt because "others have it covered" and "[lolicon] isn't as talked about and thus is worth discussion"
- Even despite being presented with an active case, they will consider lolicon to be the bigger issue.
- Dismisses actual claims of CSA survivors and their trauma if it goes against their beliefs.
- This post is one of many instances of this happening.
- The most overt and obvious case of this is the fact they all water down the term "Pedophilia" because they hate anime, making it seem like a non-issue.
- Caught being hypocrites.
- They follow large and popular Lolicons, such as Gawr Gura, other Hololive VTubers, Nijisanji VTubers, and other non-western VTubers.
- They follow artists and animators who make loli content.
- They follow actual pedophiles, if not zoophiles, groomers, rapists, etc.
- A commonly known individual is Vaush, a person who has argued for lowering the age of consent, stated that he would fuck animals, and various other situations.
- And that's ignoring other stances he takes.
- Another individual is Keffals, a person who has sold hormone blockers to children, followed a pro-contact pedophile, falsely accused others of rape, and many more.
- They engage in lolicon media and other problematic media.
- Common media they consume is furry art, despite the obvious irony of using their argument against them: "liking fictional animals makes you wanna fuck actual animals."
- Gore artists and their consumers are also present in harassment cases.
- Popular Media like Nekopara, Corpse Party, Oreimo, Monogatari, No Game No Life, Boku no Pico,
- Boku no Pico stars Shota, which is the male version of Loli.
- Often times, Antis are fine with what they consider boys to be depicted sexually, but not fictional females.
- They have loli art in their likes.
- Rebecca from Cyberpunk Edgerunner and Tatsumaki from One Punch Man are well-known examples that they feel have no issue with.
- My Hero Academia characters are another who they have no problem sexualizing despite the characters being all in high school.
- They're actual pedophiles, zoophiles, etc.
- Some people are often completely open about it, and put in their profile biography, "pro-contact zoo," "NOMAP," or "Proud Paraphile"
- There are actually people bold enough to say "I may be a pedophile, but at least I'm not a lolicon" in a non-figurative manner.
- There are people who openly are friends with known pedophiles, under the reasoning "at least they're open about it."
- There was one case where a lolicon was sent actual CSEM by someone who claimed that CSEM is equally as harmless, openly claims its easy to get, and claims to send it to lolicon to make a point.
- Davi (@YureiEu) was the victim who was sent CSEM by Shino (@NeegusMan) on October 21st, 2021.
- Several people have reposted CSEM of a VTuber named Athena Bambina, a girl with autism, despite not being a lolicon, for saying "Nigga" during a GTA V stream in an act to copy a known meme, in order to harass her, provided by her old abusers.
- Some individuals use symbols like gears and such to communicate clandestine to indicate they possess and are willing to share CSEM.
- Despite their efforts, many who hide the fact they were convicted of sexual assault are often caught, be it previous crimes or currently active cases.
- This list includes someone considered high and mighty, UN Child's Rights Activist, Peter Newell.
- A Twitter gimmick account called "Awesome Mario Facts" (@nintendofac) was caught not only sharing said "child pornography" to an audience of minors, but also the owner of the account (@largebakedbean) was caught having sexually assaulted a 13 year old.
- He only made his account 18+ AFTER the fact someone called him out on essentially sharing what he alleges as "child porn" to his audience, which contained minors, whom of which were open about it.
- Some of his Gimmick Account cohorts were caught as well: @TheReplySeeker who dated an 11-year old, and @MomentsTweetor (now deleted) defending the former.
- Practically every single "Awesome Facts" gimmick account likely was an ally of Awesome Mario Facts despite being outed as a child abuser during the event, calling the evidence fake and made up, despite the initial distraught reaction and subsequent attempts of discrediting the evidence, of which contradict each other as he kept going on, and thus can be considered pedophile apologists, defenders, and so on.
- @TransphobicLs is run by a zoophile and pedophile, Axe, and is at the present possibly still grooming people.
All of that is but a small portion from what I've seen and archived since I entered this forum.
Every single archived case of Antis being the absolute worst human beings on this planet, to the point I must raise the question if they're really human and can be considered such, in a philosophical, ethical, and legal sense, is but one extra proof that ALL of them are subhuman at best.
I have yet to meet anyone who could be an exception or contradiction to the statement that "All Antis are Harmful: from harassment to doxxing, to advocating the restriction of peoples' freedom to sexual abuse of real-world children, to real world stalking, and to plotting real world murders. Harmful to innocent people who have committed no crime, no harm, no injustice."
Until someone can prove even once with a single case example that any Anti is an upstanding moral citizen who values human life, I can and will conclude and act upon that "All Antis are Subhuman."
I can tell you that for the uncountable amount of times an object has been dropped in the history of the world, the object always has fallen down, every object that has fallen proves that the next dropped object will fall, and it would be utter bullshit to claim that despite all of that proof, "there's a chance an object will fall up."
TL;DR: There doesn't exist an Anti who HASN'T encouraged or engaged in inflicting harm unto others. They are all scum, and this is all proof of it.
Despite all of that, Antis might still claim that known pedophiles, animal rapists, child abusers, groomers, and so on, have a point in that Lolicon is immoral.
I have already stated why this is wrong several times in this forum.
Several research done with it has proven lolicon doesn't cause real world harm.
No one cares about doing more research on it because it's literally already answered: No correlation.
If you disregard it simply because the studies were done in the wrong nation, then you clearly think your nation and you yourself susceptible to being mentally incompetent enough to be heavily influenced by fictional media.
If you disregard it simply because it's outdated, then clearly, you must think global society as a whole has become retarded over time to now suddenly think fiction is reality.
No ethical theory worth anything meaningful gives a shit about something being disgusting.
Your subjective feelings of what's comfy and disgusting are not determinants of morality.
Morality is a concept which strives to minimize suffering.
Your disgust is not suffering, and it especially doesn't justify the harm you do.
TL;DR: No, you don't have a point, pedophile and co. Please kill yourselves.
Of course, this wouldn't deter them from pretending like they aren't all child abusers at best.
Simply put, I feel like that's also a thing a lot of people who fight against Antis often have the belief of.
More specifically, they "know" that not all Antis must be evil. There's always that chance that someone might be rational enough to talk things through.
Here's my proof that All Antis are subhuman. That they're literally all child abusers.
They aren't just armchair activists with no life on the internet. If anything, those people would be more tolerable.
With their worthless lives, no job, constantly on TikTok and Twitter, with dyed hair, pierced tongue, and BMI above 40, they pollute any possible discussion, casual and serious, with political statements devaluing other peoples' lives over something as stupid as drawings, and while promoting ideologies which enacted mass starvation, genocide, and suffering like Communism, thought policing, eugenics, and many more, they also groom children, pretending to be a reliable figure for the younger generation by exploiting those with weak sense of identity in this world, weak family bonds and lack of emotional development, in a world ruled by corrupt governments trying to install a dystopia, with a police system that doesn't have the duty to serve and protect. and corporations who control and dictate discussions on social platforms on what's right or wrong, with the answer to all their problems of a shitty school system that benefits bullies, to a shitty economy ruled by a select few megacorps, and a society which doesn't seem to value them with their communist ideals and control of others when they never had any feeling of it.
Easily swayed by the movement of the herd, they perpetuate propaganda, spreading terror of a possibly manufactured problem, with the solution of a new untested technology, with side effects which may have taken the lives of many innocent people, and that is but the recent issue, if not the fact that they often have used children as scapegoats to create a problem with the solution of control and censorship for their benefit.
With the guise of child protection, they paint themselves as heroic and reliable, fighting a tough battle that those with power will not solve, and gain the trust of their victims, and they ask for more and more, dragging them further away from not just their family, but empathy toward other people, critical thinking, and rationality with their false love, joining in their crusade as their sidekick in order to earn more of this empty love.
Eventually these freaks ask their victims for what they're looking for in the first place: pictures of their genitalia, chest, face, no clothing, in seductive poses, and in their little cult where everyone worships this hero, who could say no, unless you were a pedophile?
And even if they come out from possibly getting raped, locked away in some sex dungeon, or getting murdered, they will be labeled as traitors, pedo-apologists, "friendly-fire," and harassed to a degree no one could ever replicate until the dawn of the internet, connecting millions if not billions of people together, allowing for harassment done by hundreds, if not thousands, or millions of people all at once, doxxing their victims, threatening their lives, law enforcement doing nothing per usual, and even if they did, they've probably committed some crimes themselves because they're pathetically weak enough to seek the love of an online stranger who commands them to do so, raising the worry that they too, will be punished if they were to ask the law for its aid.
They're willing to stalk their victims, harass them non-stop, some even going in person to attack their victims by ruining their social standing at best, or possibly murder with a weapon, or maybe that's lucky given how much they're willing to ruin the lives of those who are against them, god forget those who absolutely no one cares about, online or offline, where no one would truly know if they disappeared, let alone existed.
They perpetuate harm on a mass scale. They are a cult. They do not deserve to exist. Not if you want a world full of love and peace.
They're defined by their acts of sadism, tempted by the sweet lies of demons, crave the warmth of hellfire.
Maybe I'm putting too much emotional energy into this, but there is no conclusion I can ever come to regarding this group of people and what it is.
They are a liability to everyone; to every individuals, to any group, to the entirety of humanity.
They have no value to others, nor themselves.
But of course, I can't do shit because I have no power.
At least at the end of the day, just like other cults, they're relatively small compared to the larger population.
And compared to other cults, they don't have any true power, due to being online, and anonymity can still protect those who practice it.
