Lolidrama Anti-Loli Arguments (and how to make them crumble)

Koutoriia

varishangout.com
pedophilia is an accumulation of several factors
Wow, I haven't been here in about a year.

Seems to be increased in people who have certain overlapping fetishes (autogynephilia/transvestic, coprophilia/eproctophilia, necrophilia, etc) and also in autistic people who are more likely to develop deviant fetishes at all, at least the 'visibly autistic' ones who look ugly, have niche interests compared to the rest of the population in general, and which tend to be the ones who end up with no IRL friends after primary school thus gravitating to the internet for social outlet*.

Also what if someone argues the idea of lolicon is inherently pedophilic (because well, it is in a weird complex way, you can especially argue this for 3DCG and anything that's been based off a real person 2D or 3D-generated), but doesn't necessarily consider it worth banning or whatever? Going from what I've seen online I've definitely met a lot of lolicons who were also attracted to real-life children and well, I'd rather discourage actual looking at Cornish Pasties (c'mon, cheese pizza is such an overused term!)
 
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Hexasheep93

varishangout.com
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Wow, I haven't been here in about a year.

Seems to be increased in people who have certain overlapping fetishes (autogynephilia/transvestic, coprophilia/eproctophilia, necrophilia, etc) and also in autistic people who are more likely to develop deviant fetishes at all, at least the 'visibly autistic' ones who look ugly, have niche interests compared to the rest of the population in general, and which tend to be the ones who end up with no IRL friends after primary school thus gravitating to the internet for social outlet*.

Also what if someone argues the idea of lolicon is inherently pedophilic (because well, it is in a weird complex way, you can especially argue this for 3DCG and anything that's been based off a real person 2D or 3D-generated), but doesn't necessarily consider it worth banning or whatever? Going from what I've seen online I've definitely met a lot of lolicons who were also attracted to real-life children and well, I'd rather discourage actual looking at Cornish Pasties (c'mon, cheese pizza is such an overused term!)
You are aware that you come off as very presumptuous dont you?

First of all, people here explicitly argue about 2d fictional lolis, no one here likes 3dcg shit and most of, if not all of us, are against anything based off of real people

Second none the lolicons I know are pedos and I know a fair few of them. The point is that is circumstancial evidence. It just says that some lolicons are pedos which wasnt really for discussion there are sick people in every community
As an aside, whenever I ve seen a pedo lolicon they seem to be under the delusion that everyone is like them, probably to justify their deviant behaviour.
Personally I would not give them the time of day, but i wont tell you who to make friends with

As for your question I think only someone with a psychology background could properly respond. Personally I dont think it hurts or helps them, so as long as they are getting the appropriate treatment to not be a danger to kids. They are free to watch that
 

Koutoriia

varishangout.com
You are aware that you come off as very presumptuous dont you?
Haven't been here for about a year. Plus I'm not the target audience of the site, if I remember right.
First of all, people here explicitly argue about 2d fictional lolis, no one here likes 3dcg shit and most of, if not all of us, are against anything based off of real people
I believe the last thing you said applies over on a lot of other places too, including places related to 3dcg - there was one guy who had their works banned from being published on lolicit in any form because it turned out the guy was literally pasting actual faces onto his models. Pretty fucked up. (Yes, this implies I have an account over there, though I basically never go over there anymore...)
Second none the lolicons I know are pedos and I know a fair few of them. The point is that is circumstancial evidence. It just says that some lolicons are pedos which wasnt really for discussion there are sick people in every community
Yeah, all depends. I've (personally) noticed that there's more of a likelihood of both being the case if the person is emotionally and mentally immature, as in, literally stuck in a 'child' mindset (which often hands itself to things like troons and extreme-leftism).
As an aside, whenever I ve seen a pedo lolicon they seem to be under the delusion that everyone is like them, probably to justify their deviant behaviour.
Can't really comment on that as I haven't seen it personally. I've seen more backhanders and weird shit going on, such as fairly recently, someone getting called out by the owner of a Taito-related Discord server because he effectively turned himself in on his Twitter (right after spamming me with about 50 messages simply saying "XXXXXXXXXX LOVES 4 YEAR OLD GIRLS").

Turns out the guy calling him out is extremely close friends with "Lain", someone who sent a friend of mine CP while working on a SM64 project with them, and using influence of highly-respected-yet-shitty people in the SM64 community, framed the other person and got them removed from a bunch of shit. (Interestingly, said person tried to follow scratch straight after the callout... I just told him to block, and he did, lol)

Funny how shit just goes around and comes around, huh.
Personally I would not give them the time of day, but i wont tell you who to make friends with
Depends who it is I guess.
As for your question I think only someone with a psychology background could properly respond. Personally I dont think it hurts or helps them, so as long as they are getting the appropriate treatment to not be a danger to kids. They are free to watch that
Agree.
 

Hexasheep93

varishangout.com
Regular
Haven't been here for about a year. Plus I'm not the target audience of the site, if I remember right.

I believe the last thing you said applies over on a lot of other places too, including places related to 3dcg - there was one guy who had their works banned from being published on lolicit in any form because it turned out the guy was literally pasting actual faces onto his models. Pretty fucked up. (Yes, this implies I have an account over there, though I basically never go over there anymore...)

Yeah, all depends. I've (personally) noticed that there's more of a likelihood of both being the case if the person is emotionally and mentally immature, as in, literally stuck in a 'child' mindset (which often hands itself to things like troons and extreme-leftism).

Can't really comment on that as I haven't seen it personally. I've seen more backhanders and weird shit going on, such as fairly recently, someone getting called out by the owner of a Taito-related Discord server because he effectively turned himself in on his Twitter (right after spamming me with about 50 messages simply saying "XXXXXXXXXX LOVES 4 YEAR OLD GIRLS").

Turns out the guy calling him out is extremely close friends with "Lain", someone who sent a friend of mine CP while working on a SM64 project with them, and using influence of highly-respected-yet-shitty people in the SM64 community, framed the other person and got them removed from a bunch of shit. (Interestingly, said person tried to follow scratch straight after the callout... I just told him to block, and he did, lol)

Funny how shit just goes around and comes around, huh.

Depends who it is I guess.

Agree.
If you dont mind me asking. Not trying to be confrontational, but why did you comeback to the forum if, as you said, are not the intended audience?

All I know about lolicit is that it is a paid site for loli content. Never cared too much about it given that there are so many other free options out there

And yeah there are people that project their awfulness onto others or make stuff up to attack others. To be fair though I have seen that more prominently among people that like to go on moral crusades, and then it turns out they were the ones with the skeletons on their closet. Not everyone mind you but enough to be a little suspicious about it
 
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