At what point does lolicon becom toddlercon

The Nash

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I've always been turned off by toddlercon because of the stubbiness and various subtle nuances. I don't like loli’s with binkies for example. But then came a certain character named Anya Forger and it's thrown I wrench into my logic. I keep insisting that she falls into the loli category because she's not pudgy and is tall and slender enough to meet the loli body type. But there are those who insist that she falls within the toddlercon subcategory just because of her younger age. Needless to say, Anya is prime fap fuel but does it make me sound disingenuous when I say I don't like toddlercon. What are the factors that differentiate loli from toddlercon?

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Hexasheep93

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Im not into it either nor I am an expert on the topic but to me is:

1. Focus on the "baby" aspects as you said binkies diapers the sort is one thing I would consider be part of todcon

2. Body shape this one is a little more ambigious, Id say in my opinion the more short and pudgy the more likely they are a todcon.

Imo anya is sort of in the border between the two, I think it really depends on the particular piece of artwork. For example the one you posted I wouldnt call todcon, but I can imagine you could easily make her one.

Honestly just go with your gut lol :shinobu_kaka:as long as its purely fictional is fine by me :shrug:
 

Ehuan Hannah

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Doesn't that image need a spoiler tag?

This is the same as pondering "when does a flat/petite woman become loli?" There's no hard line to draw because art styles are so diverse.

I didn't think I cared about toddlercon until people told me that some of the stuff I posted/drew was like that :zt-think: So I got curious and looked into it myself. And well, it seems that there are toddlercon that I do like while others just look like babies that can stand. (not my thing)
I think Feral Lemma's works would usually fall under toddlercon and therefore isn't suited to all lolicons, but somebody like Dagashi whose proportions are big head + tiny body, it can be hard to define. Yet, not everybody will necessarily see it as toddlercon because the anatomy is not toddler-like.

I think for something to be classified as toddlercon, you have to pay attention to the proportion + anatomy. After all, chibis are a thing too, and if you were to draw someone with toddler-like features but with the wrong proportions, it'll just look like they are pudgy and big-boned.
 

haux

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I've always been turned off by toddlercon because of the stubbiness and various subtle nuances. I don't like loli’s with binkies for example. But then came a certain character named Anya Forger and it's thrown I wrench into my logic. I keep insisting that she falls into the loli category because she's not pudgy and is tall and slender enough to meet the loli body type. But there are those who insist that she falls within the toddlercon subcategory just because of her younger age. Needless to say, Anya is a prime fap fuel but does feel that makes me disingenuous when I say I don't like toddlercon. What are the factors that differentiate loli from toddlerco
I think that it depends more on how you portray the corn and the age. If they overuse things that remember toddlers like diapers and have a body type which REALLY remembers a toddler then it's toddlercon I guess.
 

haux

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Im not into it either nor I am an expert on the topic but to me is:

1. Focus on the "baby" aspects as you said binkies diapers the sort is one thing I would consider be part of todcon

2. Body shape this one is a little more ambigious, Id say in my opinion the more short and pudgy the more likely they are a todcon.

Imo anya is sort of in the border between the two, I think it really depends on the particular piece of artwork. For example the one you posted I wouldnt call todcon, but I can imagine you could easily make her one.

Honestly just go with your gut lol :shinobu_kaka:as long as its purely fictional is fine by me :shrug:
As a person into toddlercon, this is accurate.
 

haux

varishangout.com
Doesn't that image need a spoiler tag?

This is the same as pondering "when does a flat/petite woman become loli?" There's no hard line to draw because art styles are so diverse.

I didn't think I cared about toddlercon until people told me that some of the stuff I posted/drew was like that :zt-think: So I got curious and looked into it myself. And well, it seems that there are toddlercon that I do like while others just look like babies that can stand. (not my thing)
I think Feral Lemma's works would usually fall under toddlercon and therefore isn't suited to all lolicons, but somebody like Dagashi whose proportions are big head + tiny body, it can be hard to define. Yet, not everybody will necessarily see it as toddlercon because the anatomy is not toddler-like.

I think for something to be classified as toddlercon, you have to pay attention to the proportion + anatomy. After all, chibis are a thing too, and if you were to draw someone with toddler-like features but with the wrong proportions, it'll just look like they are pudgy and big-boned.
Also the use of diapers and things that toddlers generally use could be a thing to classify too. I think that the gif that he posted isn't toddlercon since Anya doesn't look like a 4 year old here.
 
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