Discussion DEI and Video Games

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America Makes Games awful again.

Gridlock

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Also, a story I read on the steam forums from a straight white guy who was studying to be a game developer.

Originally posted by Amroth:
I'm a studying game developer. I've gone to one of the most prestigious game dev universities in the world (top 3 worldwide).

We regularly had industry leading individuals come over for lectures, and one of them was Guy Davidson, author of Beautiful C++, member of the C++ committee and previously head of engineering practice at Creative Assembly for decades.

He opened his speech with roughly the same words as what Matt Hansen posted recently, singling out white men in the auditorium and saying he's tired of working with other white men for decades, and wants to see more women and people of color.

Never in my life have I felt more unwelcome simply for my gender and skin color. These racist and sexist people are WAY MORE widespread than you think. Matt was simply stupid enough to say it out loud on social media.

 
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grapedApe

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Here's a funny thing. Checked the one piece wiki for the Franky Shogun to check something, noticed this bit

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If Yamato is a guy then there's no need to mention Yamato's reaction to the robot but since normally girls don't give a damn about giant robots in One Piece that means whoever typed this unintentionally stated the facts.
 

anru

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Something strange I noticed today. A Hololive streamer is graduating and Hololive put out this post clarifying terms, but there is a mistranslation in the English version of the post that seems like a deliberate dogwhistle.

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The Japanese version of that header is 「より様々な活動ができるプロダクションへ」 which you could argue says diverse (but it's talking about a diverse range of activities, not people), but you can't argue that it says anything close to "inclusive". I wonder if Hololive has anything to do with this or if it is a rogue translator.
Cover Corp opened a new branch in California and Yagoo made the company public. Guess who's investing in Cover Corp now? Blackrock, Vanguard, and State street. Expect many more graduations of popular names from that corporation that is starting to rot.
 

anru

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Both the Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) and Rutgers University’s Social Perception Lab produced studies showing that DEI pushed on participants led some of them to become irrationally confrontational and antagonistic.

“The evidence presented in these studies reveals that while purporting to combat bias, some anti-oppressive DEI narratives can engender a hostile attribution bias and heighten racial suspicion, prejudicial attitudes, authoritarian policing, and support for punitive behaviors in the absence of evidence for a transgression deserving punishment,” the study released Monday argues.
Participants that read the anti-racist material developed a “hostile attribution bias” and were more likely to believe in punitive measures for offenders of so-called microaggressions even without evidence, according to the study.

Funny thing that came out from all that; both New York Times and Bloomberg refused to share those findings - decision made by their respective editors.

And mass media keep wondering why people no longer trust them.
Rutgers university is a complete shit show. It's actually surprising that research team managed to look into the D.E.I nonsense properly and produce that report without getting kicked out of the institution immediately.
 

grapedApe

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I like her humor but Hiodoshi Ao was one of the earlier red flags for where cover corp may be trying to go with hololive.
(and if you're wondering yes the one behind Ao is confirmed female, the images are out there)
 

Halo

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Updating the thread title to clarify it's for DEI as it is related to video games. If OP wants it to be a general thread, then mods can move the thread to an appropriate subforum.
 

Gridlock

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Maybe they could make just a general dei thread in the appropriate subforum, and we can continue to use this one for dei and video games.
 

JX475

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Updating the thread title to clarify it's for DEI as it is related to video games. If OP wants it to be a general thread, then mods can move the thread to an appropriate subforum.
It's for Video Games it's why I posted that here. But I think maybe if more posts start trending in the direction of everything else it might be better to do a general. But it's highly unlikely as Video Games is full of it.
Is the new port of Fantasian, Fantasian Neo Dimension, censored from the original Apple Arcade release?
If I remember right it's a port.
 

Gridlock

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"every White Person in Rockstar had to undergo a Mandatory Unconscious Bias Training and got a shiny certificate afterwards"
I swear if there is even the slightest bit of truth to that...

Even rockstar, guys who pushed the envelope and fought against censorship forever are pandering now.
 
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TacoBell-kun

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"every White Person in Rockstar had to undergo a Mandatory Unconscious Bias Training and got a shiny certificate afterwards"
I swear if there is even the slightest bit of truth to that...
Why aren't we suing these people for blatant civil rights violations? Affirmative action in university admissions was shut down the moment it was challenged in court.
 

TacoBell-kun

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Well that's completely expected. We all know that Koei Tecmo went woke years ago. They outright admitted to have started adopting ESG.

More of a reason why Donald Trump needs to eliminate ESG and any rebrandings of it.
 

ZX-Gear9881

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Man, the downward spiral of Obsidian that began with Pillars of Eternity 2, and The outer worlds has been something... Now their Skyrim clone Avowed is REALLY pozzed, and fuck the dev's for this game with a rusty nailbat.


(And Obsidian using NDAS to have reviewers hide any mention of the character creation screen and the fact that it has pronouns)
Well they don't have Chris Avelone any more. And he has not been able to get work after it has been proven those chores were lying.


Also, a story I read on the steam forums from a straight white guy who was studying to be a game developer.

Originally posted by Amroth:
I'm a studying game developer. I've gone to one of the most prestigious game dev universities in the world (top 3 worldwide).

We regularly had industry leading individuals come over for lectures, and one of them was Guy Davidson, author of Beautiful C++, member of the C++ committee and previously head of engineering practice at Creative Assembly for decades.

He opened his speech with roughly the same words as what Matt Hansen posted recently, singling out white men in the auditorium and saying he's tired of working with other white men for decades, and wants to see more women and people of color.

Never in my life have I felt more unwelcome simply for my gender and skin color. These racist and sexist people are WAY MORE widespread than you think. Matt was simply stupid enough to say it out loud on social media.

I never liked the idea of review copies anyways.
You can always pirate a game to review without saying you bought it.
 

HYppog

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Why aren't we suing these people for blatant civil rights violations? Affirmative action in university admissions was shut down the moment it was challenged in court.

Because despite what Chris Avellone's suggested, even if you could win the discrimination lawsuit it's almost guarantee you will get into the industry's blacklist and the gate will be closed to you everywhere you try to find the next job. This is especially if you're just a small fry trying to make a living day to day.
 

JX475

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Because despite what Chris Avellone's suggested, even if you could win the discrimination lawsuit it's almost guarantee you will get into the industry's blacklist and the gate will be closed to you everywhere you try to find the next job. This is especially if you're just a small fry trying to make a living day to day.
I think the whole entire issue could easily be solved if in the West they could create a Parallel Industry. This is also the main problem I keep noticing with Western Industries as a whole that they have not adapted to yet. Expecting to wait for the collapse while a good idea, may not be for awhile. They need to ask themselves

1. Where is our IGN Equivalent of Reviewers and even Influencers on Social Media?
2. Where is our Indie Industries that prioritize Gameplay, good storytelling and innovation?
3. Where is our own AAA and AA industries that can exist?
4. Is there any contingencies to prevent subversion of the industries we are creating? Maybe Decentralization in the sense not everything is located in Coastal Areas of California but instead in areas that are more neutral in America and have a tougher time of entryism from Politically Correct types.
5. Any Government funding? Any VC Funding? Any Crowdfunding sources? Any Banking industries as well?

The reason why I ask this is, because without creating a Parallel Industry, they are at the mercy of the reviewers. We all know there is fake Indies that push a political message, we all know that the industry is in bed with each other, we all know that they have problems hiring. We even know they will all die and it will self correct. But why do we not hasten that and make it difficult for it to happen again. This should be their own mindset. It's obvious Doug Houser and some of the Rockstar team left, and even Avellone and others get it. But they need help. I do think Trump will be getting rid of things at the top but it is time for everyone else who has political, banking, corporate connections to begin to do something as a whole about this to prevent this from happening in the future.
 

HYppog

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That sounds a lot like ceding territory and ceding territory is never the answer. Just look at Bluesky, they can keep coping about it being as big as X all they want, it won't ever change the fact that to most people X still is the biggest platform.

No I think it's time to stop running away or "looking for alternative". If Trump is on the anti-woke side as they claim it's now or never to tear down that DEI wall. Unless of course, it's all fluff and lip service, just like his first term.
 

Gridlock

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Fuck this company

Im pretty sure Caesar's Legion in Fallout New Vegas was a Chris Avelonne creation, it HAD to be.
 
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