Drama Ex-VShojo/Mythic rrats

The scariest thing about some media industry plant influencers is how completely oblivious or detached they are from the damage they are causing in drawing big audiences away while we have Gura who seems to be wasting no time on setting up her new vtuber account lately.
Who Ironmouse thinks is cool to hangout with. As much as I hate the NYP I think its fucking hilarious they got Hasan with the red star, hammer and sickle sign next to him.
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The very supportive comments of bbno$
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The start of the video got me interested, especially saying that Vtubing never got a good reputation to begin with and it was compared often to a 'High-school clique' from the outside.

And with the Sinder drama, apparently there is a change of dynamics within the Vtubers and their own community overall. As many content creators just disregarding being called Vtubers - even if they are. Like 'influencers' was remplaced by many as 'content creators', mostly for the same reasons.

Thoughts ? Exaggeration for the sake of content or right on the money ? Or it is only applicable from the American/English speaking side ?
As for the Sinder drama, Most Twitch Vtubers involved in it underestimate their own stupidity while Gura is showing signs that she plans to become active again. I hope they all don't start crying if their audiences grow smaller and the Vtubers on the other platform grow bigger.
The funny thing is Saba is not the only problem that they need to worry about.
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Assuming that Kirsche and Smugliana stole Pippa's chud audience I think it might be a safe bet that next year VAllure's fanbase might be as big as phase connect.
Most Twitch Vtubers have fansly accounts and Vshojo for their jump start rode off of Melody https://x.com/lewdcast so there is a higher chance that VAllure's rise "might" give them a decline than Elvis is entering the building(saba actively streaming on youtube).

Jokes
Twitch Vtubers doing lewd content.

VAllure Vtubers doing lewd content.
I am assuming the reason they have not fucked up is because they have selected Vtubers where they ran social media background checks(which is why they asked for past vtuber/lewd content experience to see for themselves) to not select a rin penrose, froot or oppaipantsuu kind of vtuber that talks about BLM, troons and other shit.
Twitch supports troon content with placed media industry plant streamers and Ana Valens(troon that got ousted as pedo) has seen VAllure enough as a threat that they can possibly take Twitch's Vtuber audience.

Random thought: Ironmouse and her audience might look like they would have a fun stream if mouse did a react stream to random clips like these on her stream.
 
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Very interesting seeing a small Vtuber going around calling shots to bigger vtubers.
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The other thing I noticed intriguing is that Vei follows her.
 
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I think bbno$ is hitting lolcow territory with hasan, frogan and idubbbz. Maybe some drama will occur later on with Vshojo because of mouse's association, time to post the images and explain what significance they might have.
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  • Yeets tweets went viral when trash taste or rather ironmouse and hime's BF were trending for hosting Hasan but not in a good way.
  • Yeets tweets are going viral again against ironmouses closest friend bbno$
  • Asmon and elon become friends, lose friendship, than look like they want to be friends again.
No idea if Elon can do some levels of shadow banning on viewerships for posts on users like 50%, 75%, 25% off of their intended audience but maybe its something to look out for.
 
I didn't want to do this but after some bottles here we go and of course its mythic related.
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1. Trans are known into getting into some child porn drama, and your jared fogle looking appearance besides bbno$ along with being a "valorant" player doesn't help your case.
2. This dude has a GF known for doing this on her NSFW account https://files.catbox.moe/mzhnln.mp3 and top of her body count you would be considered a sloppy 4th if we include nyanners BF and Froot's Ex-BF rejecting her advances on social media accounts.

I am not saying this for others to go laugh at his existence here but that its important to have a more testosterone diet than a estrogen one.
 
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This screenshot going viral with views on Twitter along with Silvervale doing an accidental BF reveal makes me suggest that Karma does exist.
 
more screenshots on the Sinder drama since its mythic related
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The Twitter account accused of doxxing shylily seems to have been a shylily cosplayer.
However, moments later Bao further clarified it
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little did she know she was talking to one of my accounts.
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The sharty, kiwifarms and TVA always show doxx proof, that pyro pup sinder discord has not shown proof of the actual doxx.
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Since this is who Bao is responding to. The problem is I don't even think that is Sinder's official discord? That account was created in May the Sinder drama started in April.
Besides the nanoless model shit I think there is more to this drama if Bao is still mad and throwing hands with a discord that I don't even think is even considered to be Sinder's officially. Even if the official discord got deleted and that was her official discord that discord has like """"""600""""""" followers like holy shit If I was a vtuber I would be scared of the 1000s of neets on kiwifarms, TVA, 4chan or the sharty doxxing me than whatever number that is.

Bao clearly has more to hide for her reasons to be pissed at sinder and its definitely not just the nanoless drama.
Looking for scraps to blame someone you already hate 2 months later is very astounding. I wouldn't be surprised if Bao's whore clan friends inform her how embarrassing this looks.
 

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The thing I am trying to figure out is if all this shit is an act that even Sinder thought it was fun with the group to start a redemption arc or if it is actually genuine.
If a normal bystander like me is able to see most of the whore clan trip on their shoes than there should also be a very high chance that Sinder has information on them tripping on their own heels if we assume this drama is genuine.

Bao
No idea if Twitter knew much about it but she was dating another male vtuber named Senz. Still up in the air if she has or doesn't have a new BF. Started lewd content on fansly, took a long break, no idea if she would continue lewd content.

Shylily
4chan knew Sinder was dating Red a long time ago as well as knowing Shylily was dating Boeska and still is(but no idea how much of twitter knows that). She posted a picture of herself with Twitch CEO Dan Clancy and even stated she went to his house. The thing is Clancy got into some drama later showing himself as a sex pest or deviant so people might start to get funny ideas about Shylily's past visit to his house.

Nihmune
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Quinn seems to have a lot of interactions with her the most along with some of her friends like Bao. I have only known him for struggling to get even 100 viewers and the amount of interactions with Nihmune suggests the very small time vtuber might be something more to her for him to have such a connection with a big vtuber like Nihmune. Nihmune also tries to get into collabs with Aethel, hangout in Aethel's chat when he streamed and did something with Bao talking about a possible body pillow of him before on stream.
If you want to play the I am girl failure that cant get a BF or I am a lesbo card at least try to hide your own tracks that you like to slurp on white cock.

CottontailVA
You wouldnt think a whore would have unicorns but they seem like the special kind of unicorns. Like simpcity being randomly mad at her new BF Jollz and seeing a 4chan thread recently disappointed at her new BF's cock size and how he fucks compared to her ex-BF....Weird fans, I dont even know how to explain them with words. Other than this hard to find any yab on her.

Vei
This bitch is too confident in herself to trash others. Especially when there is a certain video buried somewhere here and elsewhere that if you look hard enough suggests through a 3rd party streamer that Vei was sending nudes(more than likely underage at the time) to Pokelawls. This would escalate to huge Twitch drama and even cause Soda's audience to be mad at Vei like ohh she is just using Soda accusations. All depends how pissed Sinder is at Vei to go after her.

Nyanners
Hard to find anything against her since BF and lack of streams have plummeted her own audience but still she took the damage and continues streaming more now.

Buffpup
Hard to attack someone that is completely shameless talking about orgies on her streams. Feel like the reason Vchiban gets alot of collabs with ironmouse than her old colleagues is because they enjoy being her servants than friends.

Silvervale
Recent fuck up with a BF leak thanks to Sodapoppin but still leans on doing more lewd content and started streaming more

I have no idea if Bao still randomly brings up Sinder out of nowhere a month later to make her stay relevant(like her unofficial small discord) or she genuinely hates her. If its genuine I think Sinder is waiting for Saba to set up debut take, destroy as much Twitch unicorns as possible airing her ex-friends dirty laundry for them to run to youtube and become Saba viewers. Or if planned have her make a comeback to grow big again. If this information is very easy to find at least for me, I am very sure Sinder has way more shit on them but I will see if the hate for her is genuine or not whatever time she returns to streaming again. If Sinder does return to streaming and not airing anyone's dirty laundry than I hope some pressure would be put on Froot on whatever reason why she has not returned to streaming.
 
The thing I am trying to figure out is if all this shit is an act that even Sinder thought it was fun with the group to start a redemption arc or if it is actually genuine.
If a normal bystander like me is able to see most of the whore clan trip on their shoes than there should also be a very high chance that Sinder has information on them tripping on their own heels if we assume this drama is genuine.

If Sinder does return to streaming and not airing anyone's dirty laundry than I hope some pressure would be put on Froot on whatever reason why she has not returned to streaming.

Besides making a big drama that would make everyone reacts to it and all reactors content eat good about it, I don't think it will be useful for Sinder to lash out by going black pilled on the matter. Better to let them fall due to their own mistakes - which most are good enough at it by themselves anyway.

As for Froot, clearly she have a lot of personal issues to work on. As if her twitter post of accusations against her ex-BF abuses many years after the facts wasn't a clear sign she had plenty of those to sort out.
 
if there is any kind of weakness that I have learned from media industry plants its called, "Being immune to one's own cringe."

-Hasan getting praised on one side on social media but getting laughed at for bringing idubbbz and frogan on stream than doing some weird ass dance with Vivian or whatever the fuck that was.

-bbnos getting praised on one side on social media than getting mocked on twitter and youtube for cringe.

-Powdur's tweet and even some 4chan /vt/ account tweet(I am sure any big vtuber seeing that place get shilled on twitter to go viral with views besides the parrot is against their interests and hits their nerves a little bit) went a little viral in some way defending Sinder and she didn't even do anything yet. Some people are stupid and gullible believing some unofficial discord with 600 followers is Sinder's fault(are the doxxing attempts even a success?) while far bigger sites like soyjak party and kiwifarms accused of doxxing are still up and running holding far more power. Attacking Sinder one month later I guess will give some shoulder shrugs like yeah "Sinder bad" doing it a 3rd time assuming she comes back might have your audiences tell you to get a room with her. Based on viewers lately it looks like the Sinder hype train already died for Bao and Spite.

-Ironmouse also has a medical condtion called "Being immune to one's own cringe" based on who she chooses to stream and associate with. Which is why Vedal looks like he is beyond mouse's reach in viewers and to the point of complaining that too many female vtubers are jumping on his dick because of shippers.

Like it wouldn't hurt getting advice from someone else what your doing is cringe(this could have saved froot as well and the past nux drama) in order to prevent the cringe from happening. Or whoever is paying them to be cringe should realize whatever they are trying to achieve is just backfiring harder causing an opposite effect instead. I am willing to bet Sinder might return a week or less before Saba's debut or shortly after Saba's debut.
 
-Froot dated commander chaos/connor, later he got into hololive as Bettel Gavis.
-Snuffy and Lemonleaf were friends with each other, Lemon later got into hololive as Fauna before quitting hololive and just debuting as Nimi.
-Apparently Silvervale who use to be in Vshojo has some history with Myers before she joined Hololive as Nerissa
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Buffpup, Snuffy, Nerissa, Aethel and uwoslabs I heard are from Ohio. Heard Silvervale was from the midwest but I guess its possible we can narrow that down to Ohio.
A)Coincidence.
B)Small world.
C)Hololive, Vshojo and some other large vtubers have some secret discord or group chat.
D)Hololive and Vshojo in some way sleep in the same bed.

Too much of A) and B) will narrow down the choices to C) and D)

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Graduating for an offer that she considers as an "opportunity of a lifetime" and the Bao, Filian and nyanners pampering makes me take a wild guess if she is debuting in hololive's spanish branch or something. She is a moderate 3 view in twitch and youtube.

Edit: I feel like I seem some resemblance between Hime Hajime and Nerissa(no its not the dating fat asians part)
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Saw her on Jerma's house flipper thing, and I still can't wrap my head around why people like her. Her voice has an annoying tone to it at all times. Which is probably why she sounds so fake and insincere, where even her "playful" banter sounds not playful. And the weird part is I don't remember her sounding like that when she first started.
 
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Limes is trying to control her breathing right now.
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Good chances Laimu will be getting bombarded with DMs from mythic and Vshojo members tonight if she hasn't already.
 
Layna is a part of Mythic so I feel like roasting her here.
>Break up with BF.
>moves fail on nyanners.
>promise NSFW ASMR with Mel than memory hole it later.
>pull some homie hopper shit going from criken to tomato.
>brag that you got a new BF
>break up with him later.
 
Maybe being a loose whore when she was younger didn't help her in the "meaningful relationship" area. Although, It is really funny seeing all these chicks constantly fail at holding a relationship for any longer than a couple of months, while most of the women that are upfront about being in a relationship are capable making it last. It's almost like not emotionally cheating (gfe, intimate asmr, doing porn, etc.) can help with being a normal functioning person.
 
I am doing an honorary roast, her joining 3AM is the equivalent of Saba joining Vshojo.
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>Barely streams and talks about anxiety that doesn't exist because lazy but somehow consistent 2k andy.
>Keeps getting new merch.
>Connections to Jerma and vinesauce
>Connections to Vshojo, dokibird and maidmint.
>Connections to OTK especially the members that have quit the org.
>Laimu who is the only twitch vtuber that has Saba following her on twitter interacts a lot with Snuffy.
>connections to OTV with Sykkuno and corpse_husband through ironmouse collabs before.
>could easily steal the whoreclans coomer audience by opening up a fansly or NSFW twitter account if she wants more money, Even Sinder(before she got cancelled) and Spite tried to reach out to her through social media before the whoreclan took her in a few days later.
>Susu_jpg is a fan of hers and coqui.
>friends with lemonleaf before she became fauna and before she became Nimi. This might also imply that with her size she could have applied to Holoive and had good chances of being in that org if small time lemonleaf back then got in.

The only thing some people would consider based about 3am was fighting some jew named seth weinstein. If anything the corp she is joining should teach her a little about opsec considering how close she was to getting herself doxxed recently.

Edit: She also got a golden kappa train on Twitch when she streamed today.
Also 3AM has secured their own victory for Filian's Vtuber awards where they have to nominate 3AM as winners or else any other vtuber organization that wins the rising vtuber organization award would like bribery was done for the Vtuber awards show. No idea if she also plans on joining Mythic later like a few of her 3am colleagues.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if Snuff backed out from joining HL (if she applied at all) due to all the requirements involved. And with people she knows leaving, there's no real reason to join.

I never heard of 3am, and I'm just finding out they've been around since 2023 and I occasionally (what the fuck is a schedule) watch two of their members (meat and fang). And yeah, Snuff is already listed on their website. Interesting.
 
Vshojo Company Direction
Its good to calculate growth and who might be their allies or enemies to sort of get some insight on where the future might be heading for Vshojo.

-Froot Sightings.
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She still remembers her Twitch password to have shown up to ironmouse's stream and then Henya's stream. No one knows about why the huge 180 to go from froot and katie visiting each other and being in kat's banner, to vagueposting about accusations then scrubbing froot from all his banners/stream art. Froot has explaining to do of why she didn't notify her own audience that she would be gone for half a year assuming the teehee I am sorry would work.

-Nyanners, Vei and Silvervale still act super close to each other. Aethel might return to streaming soon, has been highly active with connor and ironmouse. Ironmouse still barely had any interactions with Nyanners, Vei and Silvervale. Snuffy has been in the jerma house flipper thing with ironmouse and connor even with the greetings and raiding ironmouse. Ironmouse hasnt congratulated Snuffy on Twitter for joining 3AM but has congratulated other Vtubers for joining Geex. Aethel and Nyanners have raided into Snuffy's channel not too long ago and its rather amusing that Snuffy joined a company that butted heads with Seth who was Aethel's old boss at his old company.

-Alot of hololive collabs through Nerissa and Mori. I am probably going to make Saba look like Kratos from god of war with this explanation.
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Its good to have collabs to share audiences but the timing might be a little bit bad because Hololive's EN fanbase might have a little civil war soon. Vshojo's fanbase leans more to the woke side, Saba might be a low key chud because some doxx claimed she has a Swedish background and is unironically a pewdiepie, forsen and vinesauce simp and we can take a lucky guess what their ethnic backgrounds are. Limealicious I heard had a content creation background with Vinny but Saba following Lime and not Vinny already sends out a strong message that she is only interested in keeping things Vtuber related which is the complete opposite of what Ironmouse and Mori have been doing. It still might be too early to judge but Saba followed Kronii and Kiara's PL accounts and not Mori or Nerissa's PL accounts. Now the reason I think there might be some kind of fanbase civil war soon is lets say for example there are 40k people that watch Hololive EN in a day. 10k people go watch Nimi and the other 3k-4k go watch kronii in the same hours of that day, also the rest in that 40k pool go watch hololive stuff. The 10K that watched Nimi for a few hours might go watch other Hololive members or go call it a day. Now lets say Saba streams and 25k-30k from that Hololive EN pool would rather go watch her than any other Hololive member. Some might either call it a day or go watch other Hololive members. Now lets say Nimi streams 4 days and Saba streams 3 days but all their stream days are separate from each other in a week. There might be a good chance that Hololive EN Vtuber might try to hide that they are visibly pissed if their donations, subs and merchandise got cut in half. Of course there is the ongoing debate if Saba will either barely stream or actively stream like she use to. Why I think she might actively stream again is 1. She wants to know how much she is making being a consistent streamer in her new vtuber account that isnt hololive. 2. If Hololive members encourage Vshojo collabs than Saba might want to try to take the hololive fanbase to the ex-hololive fanbase which probably considers more streaming. No idea if a 2nd Exodus on Hololive would happen if some of them start to realize they made less being in Hololive and Saba, Nimi and Dooby would be the devils telling them that they would make more as indies.

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Phase connect or atleast Henya still interacts with their members. People pulled up some recent arguments about cons being more phase connect fans than Vshojo fans but this would still prove nothing because for all we know the bigger portion of fanbases are home than attending cons. Apparently it sounds like they are big enough to have their own con called phase con.

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The Snackers and Swarm fan base. In terms of Twitch's ranking for vtubers with best average viewers that I checked a few days ago. 1st Place Vedal, 2nd Place Shylily, 3rd Place Ironmouse 4th Place Filian, 5th place Zen. Squchan had female asmon kind of takes in her youtube videos, Saruei had some recent chud takes in her streams and of course Vedal with Filian were in the same party as them. Vedal and Filian look like they lean more to the chud side. Vedal did also manage to get a collab with Kiara once.

-Adding VAllure because they cant stop growing in an already saturated vtuber market.
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They have grown rapidly to the point that they made a Vice journalist seem to them as nothing more than an ant screaming for attention as they pay their attention elsewhere. They have 2 Vtuber models in some way that feel very similar to Zen and Ironmouse that you could say is like they are stepping on Vshojo's shoes. If anything El_xox, Fefe, Projekt Melody, Silvervale, Coqui, Bao and cottontail might see the company as a nuisance or not and some might see them as allies like Menace and Alekirser. The more lewd tubers there are including those that cant stop growing the less money could be made for other lewdtubers. The company has caught the eyes of phase connect particularly Pippa, maybe filian for including them in her mythic nominations and Filian might have told Nyana to include them in her concert. Company is more concerned whose good or bad side they are on more than some troon screaming at them for being an all female org.

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Since Mythic isn't necessarily seen as a vtuber company than 3AM is considered Twitch's 2nd biggest Vtuber company for having two 4 views, two high 3 views, one mid 3 view and the rest as low 3 views making it feel they are already bigger than Vichiban (Mini-Vshojo). One member might be considered woke and the other probably not for collabing with phase connect. Company is hard to decide between either woke or chud.

Conclusion on Fanbase Size.

1st Place: Hololive.
2nd Place: Ex-hololive( Yes Saba, Nimi and Dooby are just that big including together)
3rd Place: to me its a tie between Vshojo and the swarm/snackers
4th Place: Phase Connect
the rest is large Twitch and Youtube Vtubers

Options
A) Those that are big and confident where they are might not take alliances or just be happy where they are at with no ambition
B) Those that are big but still want to be bigger or prevent others from being bigger than them will look for other big vtubers where they will go mutually suck each other's dicks to grow big.

Saba's ambition would decide how long Vshojo will be on option B.
 
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