Drama Ex-VShojo/Mythic rrats

[Ragnaroks]

Yeah. I don't think that she is an evil person. I may not like her personally but I have nothing against her or those who follow her. In fact, I actually think it's quite tragic that she has so much potential but it seems like she's wasting it.

But like you said, dfferent strokes for different folks :)

Cotton could actually do so much more of she did actual VA roles. She does have REAL talent in that regard, and maybe even do more singing (though her song lyrics are written by a monkey with down-syndrome).

This is probably the most accurate and funny description of lewdtubers that do b/g content for me.

You have options of eating wagyu steak(silvervale), kobe beef(snuffy), lobster(bao). sturgeon caviar(Saruei), black winter truffle(mira pink), beef wellington(sinthya), coulibiac(ceru foxhound), otoro sashimi(Noel from hololive other account), etc. But instead you ask the waiter serving you the dish to spit on it in front of you before you eat it(cottontailva). Thats my view along with what others might have of vtubers that do b/g content which still shocks me on why cottontail has a considerable size audience as she does. But again everyone is different and its not for everyone I mean sure there is a chance that someone might have spit on your food(vtubers that have BFs not letting audience know) but even then you wouldn't want to know about it.

I think it just depends on if you care about your oshi being "pure" and shit, which I don't give a shit about personally. Also, let's be real here: all the meals in that restaurant are being spit on, so I do feel more comfortable when they spit on my food instead of hiding it.

i dont understand most lewdtubers but it is what it is. they dont associate as much tho so im not surprised.

i havent found me a single lewdtuber that doesnt have a bf lol

I do think a majority of lewdtubers aren't CURRENTLY with anyone, but they have certainly been with people, so any lewdtubers *cough* Numi *cough* who act or say that they don't get play are lying. For this topic: Cotton's a weird case. She's hasn't dated anyone for a couple years, but she does cope with hook-ups and FWB relationships (Jollz). I hope she does eventually find someone who's not an asshole like her ex (treated her like a side-piece and was an overall asshole) or someone who's not Jollz (Performative male final boss).

 

[blackjack]

I think it just depends on if you care about your oshi being "pure" and shit, which I don't give a shit about personally. Also, let's be real here: all the meals in that restaurant are being spit on, so I do feel more comfortable when they spit on my food instead of hiding it.

what is even the point of enjoying b/g content with someone that mostly censors their face? Its like at this point you might as well just open up a page on xvideos or pornhub where there are porn stars with bigger ass and tits then hers and bigger partners with some that don't censor their dicks occasionally. This is not even counting how unappealing her vtuber model is with consideration there are better vtuber models other vtubers use that all moan and blow on the mic the same way.

Did you actually give other vtubers a try? Or you just randomly chose a vtuber and decided to stick with that vtuber for quite some time? I am still trying to figure out why she has such a big appeal.

 

[The Outsider]

Cotton could actually do so much more of she did actual VA roles. She does have REAL talent in that regard, and maybe even do more singing (though her song lyrics are written by a monkey with down-syndrome).

I think it just depends on if you care about your oshi being "pure" and shit, which I don't give a shit about personally. Also, let's be real here: all the meals in that restaurant are being spit on, so I do feel more comfortable when they spit on my food instead of hiding it.

I do think a majority of lewdtubers aren't CURRENTLY with anyone, but they have certainly been with people, so any lewdtubers *cough* Numi *cough* who act or say that they don't get play are lying. For this topic: Cotton's a weird case. She's hasn't dated anyone for a couple years, but she does cope with hook-ups and FWB relationships (Jollz). I hope she does eventually find someone who's not an asshole like her ex (treated her like a side-piece and was an overall asshole) or someone who's not Jollz (Performative male final boss).

well at least i try to find good lewdtubers but i guess it wasnt in my category to watch. ill just sit this out and just watch normal stuff then.

 

[Ragnaroks]

what is even the point of enjoying b/g content with someone that mostly censors their face? Its like at this point you might as well just open up a page on xvideos or pornhub where there are porn stars with bigger ass and tits then hers and bigger partners with some that don't censor their dicks occasionally. This is not even counting how unappealing her vtuber model is with consideration there are better vtuber models other vtubers use that all moan and blow on the mic the same way.

Did you actually give other vtubers a try? Or you just randomly chose a vtuber and decided to stick with that vtuber for quite some time? I am still trying to figure out why she has such a big appeal.

I watch other Vtubers! I like Bao, Vexoria, Alicia (I know she's kind of two-faced, but I like her reaction videos), and Oppaipantsuu.

There's also a bunch of other ones I like, but I mostly just enjoy their NSFW content like KumBomb (who I feel bad for her husband lol).

I don't watch that many vtubers besides those though, as I have other shit in my life I like to do.

I don't really need their face, because my eyes are drawn to what they're doing with their bodies. I do prefer it with their face though, which is why I go to other lewdtubers who make stuff with their face.

I do think that Cotton's b/g stuff has been getting worse lately, with the whole dick censorship (the videos with her old ex were actually peak in comparison). Luckily, if there's one lewdtuber who's gonna just start showing their face, it would be Cotton (especially since she just hit #1 on the fansly leader-board, so that IRL fansly stream will almost certainly end with an intentional or accidental face reveal).

I think Cotton's main appeal is that she's basically gooner-bait, alongside being somewhat entertaining in general. Which also applies to most other lewdtubers.

You can even notice with my other vtubers that I watch being lewdtubers; there's never a singular appeal for Cotton, but rather, the appeal is the entire whore clan.

Granted, this does lead to creating unicorns and simps who are just... wonderful (the cottontail subreddit makes me bewildered).

In the end, this is a really long-winded way of saying different strokes for different folks lol.

 

[The Outsider]

you know its funny how i called out any lewdtuber to respond to a post that i wanted to test there wits and see if they was able to engage into posting a comment on my post but didnt since they lack the variety of communication system. thus, proven me that lewdtubers does not associate but rather with the people in their group like small minions.

I guess my appeal is more different and stable then they are in general.

You can have big tits and ass on a model but in a genetic way, they wont really have that natural look on themselves. not that it matters to me tho to ne honest.

 

[blackjack]

I watch other Vtubers! I like Bao, Vexoria, Alicia (I know she's kind of two-faced, but I like her reaction videos), and Oppaipantsuu.

There's also a bunch of other ones I like, but I mostly just enjoy their NSFW content like KumBomb (who I feel bad for her husband lol).

I don't watch that many vtubers besides those though, as I have other shit in my life I like to do.

I don't really need their face, because my eyes are drawn to what they're doing with their bodies. I do prefer it with their face though, which is why I go to other lewdtubers who make stuff with their face.

I do think that Cotton's b/g stuff has been getting worse lately, with the whole dick censorship (the videos with her old ex were actually peak in comparison). Luckily, if there's one lewdtuber who's gonna just start showing their face, it would be Cotton (especially since she just hit #1 on the fansly leader-board, so that IRL fansly stream will almost certainly end with an intentional or accidental face reveal).

I think Cotton's main appeal is that she's basically gooner-bait, alongside being somewhat entertaining in general. Which also applies to most other lewdtubers.

You can even notice with my other vtubers that I watch being lewdtubers; there's never a singular appeal for Cotton, but rather, the appeal is the entire whore clan.

Granted, this does lead to creating unicorns and simps who are just... wonderful (the cottontail subreddit makes me bewildered).

In the end, this is a really long-winded way of saying different strokes for different folks lol.

what I am trying to get at is why a vtuber instead of just a porn star? Your only reason for an interest in her is porn, b/g and her own body. Why not Mia Malkova and Khalifa, Mandy Muse, Rose Monroe, Sharon Lee, Sierra Banxxx, etc for different flavors? The face censorship already tells me her face has to be a train wreck compared to most vtubers that have shown their faces. Her tits and ass dont compare to the pornstars mentioned as examples. And most of those pornstars take it in 3 holes instead of 2 like cottontail and with bigger male partners.

-I got interested in Mel when she started streaming with ironmouse and playing portal, got bored of her and her far left not just left views she brings up on streams(even porn sites) filtered me.
-interested in the past synergy of Vei, Nyanners, Silvervale, Snuffy and Ironmouse, 3 of those got public BFs(as far as what is known) and streaming content died afterwards.
-Mostly and currently interested in Snuffy's cozy games and streams, sometimes I might peek to watch other vtubers like Bao talking about her vacation in Italy and Croatia.

I mean yeah I also think some of these females are cute or hot rather if they revealed how they look or got doxxed and even be interested if they did lewd content(why I made the other thread) because I also enjoy an attractive personality, interests, or aura some females have. I mean there literally has to be something else for your interest unless your telling me you settle for mid instead of high end porn as your only reason for watching cottontail?

 

[The Outsider]

what I am trying to get at is why a vtuber instead of just a porn star? Your only reason for an interest in her is porn, b/g and her own body. Why not Mia Malkova and Khalifa, Mandy Muse, Rose Monroe, Sharon Lee, Sierra Banxxx, etc for different flavors? The face censorship already tells me her face has to be a train wreck compared to most vtubers that have shown their faces. Her tits and ass dont compare to the pornstars mentioned as examples. And most of those pornstars take it in 3 holes instead of 2 like cottontail and with bigger male partners.

-I got interested in Mel when she started streaming with ironmouse and playing portal, got bored of her and her far left not just left views she brings up on streams(even porn sites) filtered me.
-interested in the past synergy of Vei, Nyanners, Silvervale, Snuffy and Ironmouse, 3 of those got public BFs(as far as what is known) and streaming content died afterwards.
-Mostly and currently interested in Snuffy's cozy games and streams, sometimes I might peek to watch other vtubers like Bao talking about her vacation in Italy and Croatia.

I mean yeah I also think some of these females are cute or hot rather if they revealed how they look or got doxxed and even be interested if they did lewd content(why I made the other thread) because I also enjoy an attractive personality, interests, or aura some females have. I mean there literally has to be something else for your interest unless your telling me you settle for mid instead of high end porn as your only reason for watching cottontail?

i would like to agree you statement. if they censor their faces for a reason then you said it clear as day..." a trainwreck in the face ". I would think there are some decent looking female vtubers that are actually attractive but again as you said( they might have BFS ).

Porn sites or rule34 is all i know and thus thats all i really need.

Its not like any lewdtubers would understand a mans interests or desires but what can you say.

 

[Ragnaroks]

what I am trying to get at is why a vtuber instead of just a porn star? Your only reason for an interest in her is porn, b/g and her own body. Why not Mia Malkova and Khalifa, Mandy Muse, Rose Monroe, Sharon Lee, Sierra Banxxx, etc for different flavors? The face censorship already tells me her face has to be a train wreck compared to most vtubers that have shown their faces. Her tits and ass dont compare to the pornstars mentioned as examples. And most of those pornstars take it in 3 holes instead of 2 like cottontail and with bigger male partners.

-I got interested in Mel when she started streaming with ironmouse and playing portal, got bored of her and her far left not just left views she brings up on streams(even porn sites) filtered me.
-interested in the past synergy of Vei, Nyanners, Silvervale, Snuffy and Ironmouse, 3 of those got public BFs(as far as what is known) and streaming content died afterwards.
-Mostly and currently interested in Snuffy's cozy games and streams, sometimes I might peek to watch other vtubers like Bao talking about her vacation in Italy and Croatia.

I mean yeah I also think some of these females are cute or hot rather if they revealed how they look or got doxxed and even be interested if they did lewd content(why I made the other thread) because I also enjoy an attractive personality, interests, or aura some females have. I mean there literally has to be something else for your interest unless your telling me you settle for mid instead of high end porn as your only reason for watching cottontail?

i would like to agree you statement. if they censor their faces for a reason then you said it clear as day..." a trainwreck in the face ". I would think there are some decent looking female vtubers that are actually attractive but again as you said( they might have BFS ).

Porn sites or rule34 is all i know and thus thats all i really need.

Its not like any lewdtubers would understand a mans interests or desires but what can you say.

Considering that I've seen everything about Cotton's face (like the one frame of a video where you see half of it), I'm pretty sure she censors her face for pure privacy reasons. Trust me, her face does appear to look... normal? Not outstanding, but not butterface. Like someone you would see while walking down the steet.

I chose a vtuber to like because there's just more to like. I like watching her streams and shit because I do find her entertaining and funny.

You don't watch pornstars doing non-porn things, right?

Cotton does the best of both worlds FOR ME.

Doesn't help that I have the sense of humor of a middle schooler, so I get attracted to the "haha, SEX! Get it?" crowd.

Besides that, it's not really a deep reason why I oshi her. I find her funny, I find her relatable (not that I'm a hypersexual ADHD woman in a quarter-life crisis), and I think she's a (relatively) good person.

I know being involved in the vtuber/idol culture should require me to feel more strongly about all this, but ultimately, Cotton is more of a OCD fixation to me then an actual, parasocial obsession then anything.

I apologize if I still don't make sense here; anything more I should clarify?

 

[blackjack]

I apologize if I still don't make sense here; anything more I should clarify?

no need, you gave me an actual answer.

I like watching her streams and shit because I do find her entertaining and funny.

 

[blackjack]

I want to personally apologize to every cottontailva fan that views this thread, there was some TMI that I found about VAllure that things are not always as they seem on the other side. I hope her old friends try to reach out to her and help with her mental state, because I would still find it scummy that they wouldn't help out someone that needs the help to maintain a good friendship.

 

[The Outsider]

I want to personally apologize to every cottontailva fan that views this thread, there was some TMI that I found about VAllure that things are not always as they seem on the other side. I hope her old friends try to reach out to her and help with her mental state, because I would still find it scummy that they wouldn't help out someone that needs the help to maintain a good friendship.

100% agree...People with a mental health state really do need the help from there friends or someone at least. Veibae took a long hituas break and is seeking some help with her metal state. I would offer her a big hug and give her some words of courage and boost her iron will.

Thats all im gonna say!

Stay in good health BlackJack.

 

[blackjack]

In a group of female friends there is always that one female in that group that has had multiple relaitonships or fuck buddies. What I am saying is that better not be the reason why cottontail was distanced because that is being scummy on the same level as Sinder whom they cancelled. Maybe her friends tried to help her(like finding a good male partner) but she refused it? All we can do is guess. We have already learned the sad truth that in the end most females are vtubers and most females don't like it if certain females hang out with other specific females.

Despite Hololive, Nijisanji, Vshojo, Phase Connect and idol corps fuck ups. VAllure has proven to me that even if you physically hand over a football to a female you never underestimate their capability to still fumble the fucking ball costing the game. This is why women are barely given leadership positions and J. K. Rowling still has to fight for their rights. It is constant piss poor decisions that are soo easily avoidable. Think I will stop ranting for now.

 

[Ragnaroks]

In a group of female friends there is always that one female in that group that has had multiple relaitonships or fuck buddies. What I am saying is that better not be the reason why cottontail was distanced because that is being scummy on the same level as Sinder whom they cancelled. Maybe her friends tried to help her(like finding a good male partner) but she refused it? All we can do is guess. We have already learned the sad truth that in the end most females are vtubers and most females don't like it if certain females hang out with other specific females.

Despite Hololive, Nijisanji, Vshojo, Phase Connect and idol corps fuck ups. VAllure has proven to me that even if you physically hand over a football to a female you never underestimate their capability to still fumble the fucking ball costing the game. This is why women are barely given leadership positions and J. K. Rowling still has to fight for their rights. It is constant piss poor decisions that are soo easily avoidable. Think I will stop ranting for now.

I know I'm the one who knows a shit ton about Cotton, but I actually didn't know that people were purposefully distancing themselves from her. Can you elaborate on that (with evidence)?

 

[blackjack]

I know I'm the one who knows a shit ton about Cotton, but I actually didn't know that people were purposefully distancing themselves from her. Can you elaborate on that (with evidence)?

4chan from time to time would jokingly call(sinder got her card revoked) nihmune, bao, shylily, trickywi and cottontailva as the "whore clan." either its bad timing on my part but I don't see cotton hanging out with any of those vtubers.

 

[Ragnaroks]

4chan from time to time would jokingly call(sinder got her card revoked) nihmune, bao, shylily, trickywi and cottontailva as the "whore clan." either its bad timing on my part but I don't see cotton hanging out with any of those vtubers.

Bao and Cotton collab/interact on a regular basis, but I don't think I've seen Cotton with the "whore clan" for a long while.

I doubt it's some big catty drama going on, as it's more likely that the "whore clan" just fizzled out, as each member has went off into their own small groups.

If I'm being honest, the "whore clan" wasn't really a thing in the first place; 4chan just grouped them together because they were all lewdtubers.

 

[The Outsider]

So i was searching the youtube content and came across a comment under godfast channel about zen. Apparently, vtubers are using some software of MUSO TNT. It may not be important so im just throwing it out there tho.

Furthermore, there wasn't been any updates about vshojo but I will continue to search even if I come back empty handed!

 

[TheNav70]

I know she's only Vshojo-adjacent, and maybe this is a weird question, but does anyone know why Snuffy hasn't collabed with the OG ex-Vshojo crowd in years? Like Nyan, Vei, Ironmouse, Silvervale. That seemed to be the original group. I miss those times. Did they just drift apart? Were there hints of a falling out?

 

[blackjack]

I know she's only Vshojo-adjacent, and maybe this is a weird question, but does anyone know why Snuffy hasn't collabed with the OG ex-Vshojo crowd in years? Like Nyan, Vei, Ironmouse, Silvervale. That seemed to be the original group. I miss those times. Did they just drift apart? Were there hints of a falling out?

All I got to say is I have TMI to the point that if she browsed my posting history of her anywhere that I think I might have caused enough trauma for her to start looking under her bed and closet. But finding all the reasons would be difficult since there could be many theories.

1. I am probably going to make Silvervale look like a petty bitch here but 1. She snapped at her audience when her chat started randomly talking about ironmouse before on stream. 2. She banned the word, "Snuffy"(probably saw a racoon video and her chat went autistic with Snuffy's name) on her twitch channel and even unfollowed her on twitter so thats the reason there are no snuffy/silvervale collabs(nyanners birthday collab doesn't count).

2. Besides Silvervale, Vei and Nyanners have mostly hung out with OTK members whom also back then and at this point are well known lolcows so maybe she didnt want drama which caused less communication with Silvervale and Vei. Honestly at one point Nyanners and Aethel, Vei and Soda, Silvervale(assuming she didnt have a partner) decided to take a vacation trip to Las Vegas so I honestly don't blame Snuffy not wanting to join them because it is fucking retarded in my opinion to spend money at a casino when you are already spending money on a trip and a hotel to see a different place(you also look like jackasses this way to your audience that you let them know you have a lot of money to burn). Or she could be single and it feels weird hanging out with 3 couples along with one blonde chick in that group that might hate you like she does on social media. Ironmouse does not seem like a huge OTK fan so maybe Snuffy wanted some appeasement with her. Nyanners and Aethelstan have raided her not too long ago(maybe 1-3 months agao) so they still communicate and those 2 still communicate with ironmouse. Besides I feel like Nyanners and definitely Vei barely stream as it is.

3. Ironmouse you can pretty much say she is just like Silvervale in some cases where Zen and Silvervale admittedly complained they wanted to collab with her but were not able to. I got a ban on Snuffy's channel before for saying something like instead of ironmouse's channel she should collab with corpse_husband in her channel and she had a awkward reaction reading it. Ironmouse planned a group collab later and Snuffy cancelled saying too much baldur gates 3 and corpse was silent that entire collab and randomly showed up to her chat the next following day when she did a VR stream. Since then I have not heard of Ironmouse collabing with Snuffy and Jerma's houseflipper doesn't technically count since neither planned a collab with each other.

Corpse and Sykunno were known for being like two peas in a pod with how close they are.

I know Sykunno also got shitposted for random anons saying Gura and Valkyrae are his GFs. But it is rather odd if its worth investigating on why Madi because Madi is more like a Vtuber designer who her and Snuffy have alot of contact with each other on social media. Based on Snuffy's face doxx and corpse_husbands kiwifarms face doxx, if those 2 really are dating then I guess Snuffy loved the Disney movie, "the hunchback of Notre dame" as a kid but wished Esmeralda ended up with Quasimodo then Phoebus.

4. This is just trying to figure out Snuffy herself or get in her brain why she doesn't do collabs with them as much. She had an Ex-BF from 2020-2021, 2022 tier list she said she gave her ex-BF a footjob playing animal crossing and based on archived twitter Snuffems, she played that game a lot in March 2020.
Since the images are not working for me now. https://warosu.org/vt/?task=search&ghost=false&search_text=snuffy+ex+&offset=216 I am assuming the break up with her ex was in July 2021. Maybe I missed 2022 and 2023 but besides 2021 she brought up her distaste for dick taste in 2021, 2024, 2025 so I cant tell if that is her ex or it implies she still thinks about him which implies she is single. She brought up Aethel's name unprompted a few times(debatable if that drew nyanners away from collabing with her) on Twitch and had interesting thirst comments in Luca and Vox's(why her and him unfollowed each other is a mystery but it might be doki related) posts along with other male vtubers before. She is also claimed bisexual in her old twitter account and her and Vei have sent each other a lot of body part pics. Based on her old archive Twitter, Discord Mods and early 2020-2021 vtubers she is friends with were alot of Gay BLM users that also seem to like Final Fantasy 14 and they might be the reason why this thread was created on this forum. https://varishangout.com/index.php?...s-diversity-question-twitter-is-enraged.1411/ Assuming if Snuffy was far-left she seems to be normal compared to most of the nutjobs like Mel and Clara from phase connect.

She is an enigma that I am still trying to figure out.

 

[TheNav70]

Well regardless of how things have played out I just want to say I think Snuffy is really nice and cool, at least on stream/as a performer. Obviously as a viewer you'll never really know the streamers you like. But to this day she's the only vtuber that ever read my messages in chat, and there's a coziness to her streams/community that feels unique. She's got her hangups and I hate that she deals with depression but a lot of us terminally online people do. It's probably why I relate to her. Her and Nyanners always made me laugh a lot and they have amazing chemistry so I was naturally curious about the lore. Hopefully they collab again someday.

 

[The Outsider]

Going through the archives to using different websites for new information and all. Something in my mind just directed my attention towards melody and zen.

Zentreya didn't had alot of followers when IronMouse was #1 in the charts. After the incident had exploded, the charts shifted from IronMouse to Zentreya which puzzles me on how this vtuber was able to get to #1 so quick on the gun.

Like Projekt Melody, she was an adult content creator in CB.

Zen was the leader in the Anti-Lewd Army in VRCHAT.

Between those two that went on hituas in 2022, something just still doesn't add up for some reason tho.

I don't know if im overthinking it but the shift in my mind just suddenly tells me that Zen knew about the scheme but I cant prove that nor Zen was apart of it which makes me assume.

I just know that Zen could be a possibility on the secrets but again, I am only assuming and I don't wanna mislead this conflict of interest!