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Discussion I'm wondering...

Tama_te

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Why does minors on twitter always tries to police someone's NSFW art?

Back in my Steven Universe fandom days, I used to have a tumblr acc (which is now deleted) and I saw some NSFW art of Jasper and Lapis and I just scroll down like a normal person.

Which brings up the question above, is it because lack of attention? Real life abuse? or maybe indoctrination from someone else?

I just don't get it why these people go out their way to harass someone over drawings.
 

Grönsak

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If I for some reason found nsfw stuff during my teens. I saved it and used it for its intended use.

It's definitely indoctrination. And no one seems to like being a rebel anymore. If a adult told my generation something you bet you butt we did the opposite. Don't smoke. We smoked, don't drink. We drank, Don't fuck, Well that happened to.
 

LordReagent101

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Yeah, I don’t get it either. I use to be a hormonal kid back in the day with unmonitored internet access and I‘m sure many can imagine what I did when I found porn and hentai for the first time. Newgrounds really was something else to kid me with those Meet and Fuck games. I wish kids these days could go back back to having edgy phases like they use. It was cringe, but at least they were having fun being chunnis and it meant that artist weren’t being harassed. It’s just such a huge cultural change that makes it feel so jarring, but if I had to make a personal guess as to why kids are acting like this now. Well alongside the whole dopamine hit they get on social media from thinking their online heroes, is just that the Internet isn’t the same place it use to be when I was young.

A good chunk of my childhood after family bought a home computer was practically on Newgrounds. Sites like that were like the wild west where you could come across all sorts of shit. Then Youtube was also a lot less restrictive and more laid back at the time since they hadn’t been bought by Google. That was the time of gaming machinima where you could actually find videos of people saying the word faggot and no one would bat an eye. Then I found 4chan back when it was still decent and later 8chan. I guess the point i’m making is that kids now don’t have these edgy influences anymore. Most young zoomers probably never heard of Newgrounds, they were never around during the Youtube golden age, they use sanitized social media that constantly bans wrong think, get told by their peers and instructors that the edgy humor people use to enjoy in the older days is the devil and from a bygone age. That kind of shit.

In retrospect, I probably should never have been given that kind of unrestricted acesss to the internet when I was young, but when I see what kids are like now on social media, it makes me happy I got to expirence what I did.
 

Beginner

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Shame.
That's the easiest explanation.
See there's three ways to handle societal behaviour in a culture: Virtue/Guilt (the majority of the West operates under this), Honour/Shame (if it ain't the West, it's probably this) and Self-Preservation/Fear (Shitholes operate under this).
Twitter (and TikTok to a lesser extent) for some reason engenders a real hard Honour/Shame paradigm - which by definition means you give a fuck about what other people think of you. Literally everything is about saving face in front of other people. ALL moral questions are reduced to 'but how does this make me look?'
Means that anything makes the collective look bad (say, NSFW art from a fandom you're a part of) MUST be punished with extreme prejudice. It doesn't matter if you are personally affected by it or not - if it can make you look bad, you have to treat it like it inevitably will otherwise you keep yourself open to future dogpiling and loss of face. They have to vaccinate themselves against looking bad, and if that means purging literally anything that isn't squeaky fucking clean, then that's what they have to do.

EDIT: Minor Formatting
Also: You'll notice a lot of this from people with pronouns and sickle and hammers in their bios. For both Marxism and Postmodernism, Honour/Shame as a way of handling behaviour is a feature that they want implemented into wider society. If you've ever struggled to work out why both ideals seem to work together more often than not even though they should realistically be at each other's throats, it's because they agree on this key point.
 
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Mandrake

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I think the reason is simple : years ago, internet was a nerd thing, so kinda attractive to a mostly male demographic, and a specific one at that ("nerd"/"geek"). The "cool" thing back then was actually to mock these people, and the social centre of gravity was IRL only, meaning also that teenage girls were IRL having their life. After all, who can make you a social pariah or incite social pogroms when you're a teen? Teenage girls.
Remember, when teenage boys are all about their pp and how to play with it, teenage girls already are out playing social Game Of Thrones around them.

What changed since then? The same mocked nerds are billionaire for some of them, a huge chunk of the population is now online (ie way more people of culture, but even more normies), and social media can almost be seen as a huge rpg game for women, where it's all about your social clout vs others. To see what i mean, look at how a very feminine areas of interest are full of sometime insane drama, for example the various authors being cancelled because "cultural appropriation", or "reference to slavery", or "writing a black character while being non black", or anything really (as long as it works), in the young adult stories community. I remember reading about one them complaining that she was the victim of a jealous competition who incited everyone to try to cancel her. Same tactics used in most fandoms nowadays, and the less obscure the lore is, the more of this shit you can see.

That's why you see these coordinated campaigns against random artists.
 

MKO_Reactor

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:gura-pain:

When you grow up bombarded in an era where lewdery, rampant degeneracy and unwholesome bullshit is widespread, being a prude piece of shit becomes a way of going against the status quo. Though, Honestly I have serious doubts with how evenly their hatred for NSFW is distributed. Cute anime girls? Bad. E-thot whoring via onlyfans? Empowering! So I don't think that's an all-encompassing answer to why we're in the place we're at.

Then there's also a narrative formed around "being against NSFW makes you virtuous". Particularly, I notice this in Americans. Americans and the Anglosphere in general (GBR, AUS, CAN and NZ) are a bunch of piece of shit prudes. I don't think it's about Feminism, but culturally, the Anglosphere just are hard-wired to view overt displays of sexuality as deviant.

Tumblr contained all this but that dam broke and the madness spilled out onto Twitter. Like a virus, it spread.

Peace was never an option.
 

immahnoob

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Everyone seems to have a different idea of what's going on, kek.
I'm pretty sure we can see NUGGETS OF TRUTH in all of this.
:gura-pain:

When you grow up bombarded in an era where lewdery, rampant degeneracy and unwholesome bullshit is widespread, being a prude piece of shit becomes a way of going against the status quo. Though, Honestly I have serious doubts with how evenly their hatred for NSFW is distributed. Cute anime girls? Bad. E-thot whoring via onlyfans? Empowering! So I don't think that's an all-encompassing answer to why we're in the place we're at.
There's still the media portraying one side as bad and the other as good. When I was a teen, I was quite a fervent liberal (not like I'm not a liberal right now, mind you) with some caveats because some issues would influence my hobbies, e.g. like muh pollution. My way of judging issues wasn't as good since I often judged people's action based on my thinking and based on a more rigid logical system. So to me, only complete retards would fall for "the slippery slope" and suddenly make everyone hate them, like faggots at gay parades do right now, for example.
I'd say it's a similar concept.
 

Konaika416

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It was even worse when back when YanSim was brand new, one of the new users from back then was willing to attack NSFW Artists that dare to do NSFW Artwork of Yandere Simulator Characters...their argument being that it's to stop the fandom from turning into a porn fandom? Shockingly, there is barely any R34/Hentai of YanSim, so they...kind of succeded? With the popularity of the game, you'd expect it to have >1000+ Pictures.
 

Hex

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:gura-pain:

Cute anime girls? Bad. E-thot whoring via onlyfans? Empowering!
I think you're onto something. Cute anime girls are competition to Twitch-thots. There is only so much attention in the world, so attention spent on the K-On girls is attention that could've went to Twitch-thot No. 375.
 

Hexasheep93

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my guess its that is a generational thing. zoomers seem to think that being righteous and moral is simple and view a lot of things as black and white. couple that with the fact that teenagers usually believe they are right and mature and some other nonsense and you get our current clusterfuck. That said I dont think all zoomers are this retarded I ve seen a few go against the idiocy of their peers
 

PhantomXero1x

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The answer could be all of the above. You also have to take in age factors as well as many teens often always think they are the ones who are always right and the grown ups are the ones that are wrong as well.

Its certainly an addiction being a hero left right and center all the time for them.
 

weanoob

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We live in an age where virtue itself is now a vice. People have become addicted to being good people, or at least looking like good people. Of course, actually being a good person requires real sacrifice and time and effort, which is something 99.99% of social media users don't have the vaguest clue about. So they spout platitudes about how some things are bad, occasionally dogpile someone, but don't change a damn thing except pollute the public square of ideas.

I'm not sure if this is a temporary thing or a permanent paradigm shift. The post-zoomer generation will probably tell us.
 

Mandrake

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We live in an age where virtue itself is now a vice. People have become addicted to being good people, or at least looking like good people. Of course, actually being a good person requires real sacrifice and time and effort, which is something 99.99% of social media users don't have the vaguest clue about. So they spout platitudes about how some things are bad, occasionally dogpile someone, but don't change a damn thing except pollute the public square of ideas.

I'm not sure if this is a temporary thing or a permanent paradigm shift. The post-zoomer generation will probably tell us.
People happy to show how virtuous they are to the world always existed, the difference is that internet and social networks make it instantaneous and easy to reach thousands of people, while remaining anonymous (so you can craft a perfect angel, even if you're an asshole, no local person is there to correct the perception like it would have been pre-internet).
These people will always exist, but maybe time will give us the tools to understand how fake all of this is.
 
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