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Happenings Japanese voice actress visits shine. makes CCP bugmen mad and she gets removed from arknights

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bugmen at it again #bugwatch

NLDX

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It turns out that the disgusting China also removed konosuba from the bilibili platform, probably due to his role in this series [plays Darkness]
This is escalating stupidly fast, the worst thing is that already at this level it could already begin to affect Kayano's career seriously, if the anime producers decide to sniff the Chinese market's ass, it is very possible that they will avoid giving her roles to avoid being censored In China, this would be deadly for Kayano's career as she would find it difficult to find new roles and work
we need to do something, i don't want kayano's career to be destroyed by these stupid inhumans

this is the link to where konosuba is supposed to be in bilibili
Bilibili is always a leftist platform anyways...
 

erobotan

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It turns out that the disgusting China also removed konosuba from the bilibili platform, probably due to her role in this series [plays Darkness]
This is escalating stupidly fast, the worst thing is that already at this level it could already begin to affect Kayano's career seriously, if the anime producers decide to sniff the Chinese market's ass, it is very possible that they will avoid giving her roles to avoid being censored In China, this would be deadly for Kayano's career as she would find it difficult to find new roles and work
we need to do something, i don't want kayano's career to be destroyed by these stupid inhumans

this is the link to where konosuba is supposed to be in bilibili
if everyone just stop playing arkknight EN then that's a good start. We need to spread this info in big arkknights forums.

getting people stop playing is difficult though, most gamers in general has no principles. Be prepared with lots "u're as bad as sjw" comment lol
 

Jahy

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if everyone just stop playing arkknight EN then that's a good start. We need to spread this info in big arkknights forums.

getting people stop playing is difficult though, most gamers in general has no principles. Be prepared with lots "u're as bad as sjw" comment lol
I've already touched on this before in my reply to @Narbray. This issue goes beyond the gacha games themselves. "Principled" boycotts have and will never gain the appropriate numbers to effect change, and they inherently disregard the reality that the problem exists at a greater scale than they realize.

Telling people to stop playing a game and then, when they decide not to either for personal reasons or because they realize the futility of doing so, calling them out as having no principles just makes you look like a fanatical kook, which really doesn't do anything to help the cause at all. Your enemies are not the players.

I stopped playing SMITE back in summer of last year when they started infecting the game itself with cancerous American racial politics, but I don't have anything against the people who chose to keep playing. The people at fault are the executives who mandated this sort of thing get put in place. Does supporting the game also support them in turn? Sure, but it also supports a bunch of other people, innocents caught in the crossfire. I don't think games are a proper battleground for this sort of thing, and collateral damage is real, whether you want to irrationally treat it like a war scenario or not.

The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of people do not participate in games or escapist hobbies like it to make political statements either way, that's fundamentally contrary to the point of escapist media. Expecting people to do so is very much in line with social justice warrior ideology, whether you want to "inb4" it or not.
 

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I've already touched on this before in my reply to @Narbray. This issue goes beyond the gacha games themselves. "Principled" boycotts have and will never gain the appropriate numbers to effect change, and they inherently disregard the reality that the problem exists at a greater scale than they realize.

Telling people to stop playing a game and then, when they decide not to either for personal reasons or because they realize the futility of doing so, calling them out as having no principles just makes you look like a fanatical kook, which really doesn't do anything to help the cause at all. Your enemies are not the players.

I stopped playing SMITE back in summer of last year when they started infecting the game itself with cancerous American racial politics, but I don't have anything against the people who chose to keep playing. The people at fault are the executives who mandated this sort of thing get put in place. Does supporting the game also support them in turn? Sure, but it also supports a bunch of other people, innocents caught in the crossfire. I don't think games are a proper battleground for this sort of thing, and collateral damage is real, whether you want to irrationally treat it like a war scenario or not.

The fact of the matter is the overwhelming majority of people do not participate in games or escapist hobbies like it to make political statements either way, that's fundamentally contrary to the point of escapist media. Expecting people to do so is very much in line with social justice warrior ideology, whether you want to "inb4" it or not.
the situation will only get worse then lol.

you might not like it, but the only solution to fight cancel culture is to cancel the culprits. One of the reason that SJW keep winning in these 11 years because they never compromise (and people keep tolerating them), this is also a fact.
 

Jahy

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the situation will only get worse then lol.

you might not like it, but the only solution to fight cancel culture is to cancel the culprits. One of the reason that SJW keep winning in these 11 years because they never compromise (and people keep tolerating them), this is also a fact.
The situation is only going to get worse if you do nothing at all, and even though this is true, that doesn't mean that any action is a solution. I'm not arguing that everyone needs to be passive, I'm simply asserting that your proposed "good start" is not helpful in the grand scheme of things.

I encourage you to take a moment and actually consider what you're suggesting. You want people to stop playing a gacha game where they have spent a variable amount of time and money. First, consider why people are playing the game. They do it for stress relief, they do it because they like the story, art, and content. They do it because it's fun. It is a positive force for them. You need to somehow get them to believe that them dropping this thing they enjoy doing is going to actually lead to some sort of change. Second, if you have managed to get them to believe they should sacrifice for the cause, you need to get them through the sunk cost fallacy to justify evaporating all the time and money previously spent. This will be easier said than done for others. Thirdly, you have to do this for a high percentage of the playerbase, enough to the point where you're actually making a dent in things.

I should also point out that gacha games (rather, all games with in-game cash shops or microtransactions) proliferate because of their whales, not your typical everyday user that makes up the bulk of the playerbase. These are the people you would have to convince to stop playing, as they are the majority of the cash flow. You then need to take into consideration that whales either likely not very conscientious and wouldn't care one way or the other and/or deal with addiction problems which requires its own form of treatment.

Oh yeah, this all is just to get people to stop playing and "bring down" one game. You also have to get them to do the same for the other gacha. You have to get them to stop watching the anime. You have to get them to stop consuming any Chinese media. You have to get them to stop supporting any business that makes use of the Chinese economy. Surely you understand that the difficulty compounds exponentially with each jump.

All this time you suggest is spent trying to get people to stop playing a game in the hopes that they aren't slowly (or rapidly, depending on the title) replaced over time could be better applied in a much more effective way to combat the issue. You are missing the bigger picture by emotionally striking out at what is most immediate, a symptom of the problem rather than the cause, and as I have already discussed, this is going to mostly hurt people who are not even the ones at fault. You can claim these are justified casualties all you want, but myself and others who are less radically minded are not going to agree and join in some baseless crusade with little to zero chance of actual benefit gained as a result of it.

Without going too far out on a tangent since this discussion extends a bit beyond the scope of the thread, in my view, the only way this problem can be solved is from within China itself. No amount of Western influence (unless we start talking in terms of bigger stick diplomacy and longer than fifty-five days this time) is going to affect the Chinese dogma that is guiding the sort of disgusting behaviors we're witnessing. This battle is not going to be won by abstaining from a video game, plain and simple. The issue of Ai Kayano's expulsion is as consequence of a larger issue extending beyond the video games industry. China has to change itself. The people have to wake up and understand the evils of the government that is actively trying to censor, surpress, and assault not only its own people but also all others who believe in free speech and thought.

The one thing I will agree with you on is that the spread of information is key and truly and honestly the best thing we can do as individuals. Educating more and more people, especially the normalfaggots and fence-sitters, about the dangers of modern day China, their politics, and their ongoing anti-individualistic philosophy is the most you can really do. Playing these little guerilla wars with video games developers (who themselves are very likely not favorable of these changes, as can be seen by how both Azur Lane and Girls' Frontline figures reacted to censorship of their characters previously) is exactly the sort of waste of time the real malicious figures love to see.
 

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The situation is only going to get worse if you do nothing at all, and even though this is true, that doesn't mean that any action is a solution. I'm not arguing that everyone needs to be passive, I'm simply asserting that your proposed "good start" is not helpful in the grand scheme of things.

I encourage you to take a moment and actually consider what you're suggesting. You want people to stop playing a gacha game where they have spent a variable amount of time and money. First, consider why people are playing the game. They do it for stress relief, they do it because they like the story, art, and content. They do it because it's fun. It is a positive force for them. You need to somehow get them to believe that them dropping this thing they enjoy doing is going to actually lead to some sort of change. Second, if you have managed to get them to believe they should sacrifice for the cause, you need to get them through the sunk cost fallacy to justify evaporating all the time and money previously spent. This will be easier said than done for others. Thirdly, you have to do this for a high percentage of the playerbase, enough to the point where you're actually making a dent in things.

I should also point out that gacha games (rather, all games with in-game cash shops or microtransactions) proliferate because of their whales, not your typical everyday user that makes up the bulk of the playerbase. These are the people you would have to convince to stop playing, as they are the majority of the cash flow. You then need to take into consideration that whales either likely not very conscientious and wouldn't care one way or the other and/or deal with addiction problems which requires its own form of treatment.

Oh yeah, this all is just to get people to stop playing and "bring down" one game. You also have to get them to do the same for the other gacha. You have to get them to stop watching the anime. You have to get them to stop consuming any Chinese media. You have to get them to stop supporting any business that makes use of the Chinese economy. Surely you understand that the difficulty compounds exponentially with each jump.

All this time you suggest is spent trying to get people to stop playing a game in the hopes that they aren't slowly (or rapidly, depending on the title) replaced over time could be better applied in a much more effective way to combat the issue. You are missing the bigger picture by emotionally striking out at what is most immediate, a symptom of the problem rather than the cause, and as I have already discussed, this is going to mostly hurt people who are not even the ones at fault. You can claim these are justified casualties all you want, but myself and others who are less radically minded are not going to agree and join in some baseless crusade with little to zero chance of actual benefit gained as a result of it.

Without going too far out on a tangent since this discussion extends a bit beyond the scope of the thread, in my view, the only way this problem can be solved is from within China itself. No amount of Western influence (unless we start talking in terms of bigger stick diplomacy and longer than fifty-five days this time) is going to affect the Chinese dogma that is guiding the sort of disgusting behaviors we're witnessing. This battle is not going to be won by abstaining from a video game, plain and simple. The issue of Ai Kayano's expulsion is as consequence of a larger issue extending beyond the video games industry. China has to change itself. The people have to wake up and understand the evils of the government that is actively trying to censor, surpress, and assault not only its own people but also all others who believe in free speech and thought.

The one thing I will agree with you on is that the spread of information is key and truly and honestly the best thing we can do as individuals. Educating more and more people, especially the normalfaggots and fence-sitters, about the dangers of modern day China, their politics, and their ongoing anti-individualistic philosophy is the most you can really do. Playing these little guerilla wars with video games developers (who themselves are very likely not favorable of these changes, as can be seen by how both Azur Lane and Girls' Frontline figures reacted to censorship of their characters previously) is exactly the sort of waste of time the real malicious figures love to see.
gamergate & blitzchung are boycott movements. SJws in comic & movie industries are crying because people are boycotting them. SJws always get want they wanted because they rely on angry mob. There is a clear pattern here.

As for educating gamers, i think we've already doing that for 11 years & the result is abysmal. What we need is a campaign to rally people together.

I imagine myself as a whale and pouring thousands of dollars into the gacha to get my favorite characters. Then they're all removed completely/get their voice changed because of petty politics. I want a refund lol. Whether i get my refund or not (most likely not) i'll stop buying from that company anymore, too unstable.
 

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@erobotan @Valenthyne

well certainly you cannot force players to stop playing and it is understandable that not everyone has to worry about the situation with kayano ... it is sad but it is true that there is not much we can do, however I will spread information every Whenever I can and I will make my position clear, I believe that if we disseminate data and objective facts we can help even a little bit for several reasons.
My position hasn't changed on this and I think we should stop playing these games, but as you say ... we can't just make everyone stop playing, we need to at least give them some reason to stop playing, they dnt are our anemy, fighting with the fandom of these games will only benefit the Chinese government
You propose a campaign, do you have a good idea in mind?
first listing our goals:
1. avoid damage to Kayanon's career [at least for me that is a priority], one way to achieve this would be to increase his fandom and, more importantly, increase the noise that this fandom makes in his favor.
2. As you say, not everyone is to blame for this and many innocents can be affected by the crossfire, I have already answered you previously that it is inevitable that there will be sacrifices in a ´´war´, it affects innocent people and there is nothing to do In this regard, nor can we let them beat us by taking advantage of this aspect in their favor, so the second objective is to think about this, that we can make it affect as few people as possible and without making the games that they love so much disappear? Well, no idea, I think this is something that is not at our level.
3. Avoid future censorship and damage of this kind, this could be achieved if we made everyone realize that a fucking temple is not the ultimate villain of the movie ... but on a realistic level this is probably impossible, I think here we can only spread information, do what we have done so far ... and pray.

These are the important ones, what do you think? It does not sound very realistic but I think they can be taken into account when speaking and spreading the matter, it can help something ... I hope so.
Does anyone have anything else to add?
any good idea?
 

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to run a campaign you need famous people. Gaming sites also need to run more articles & editorials about it and also talk about past cases, not just this one

another thing to note is to tell people that the temple has existed long before even the first world war and used to bury war victims & not limited to just soldiers. From what i read even some pets are also buried there. Lots of people seems to believe fake news stating that it's created to commemorate WW2 soldiers.
 

FunsLeaf

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Well EN client isn't safe from commie retardation


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NLDX

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I don't know why people keep playing this garbage. :hinata-acid:
they just notified an anime adaptation, but I doubt I will see it.

and if I watch it it will definitely be only from pirate sites, I hope the anime will be a total flop. :satania-cry:
fucking communists
I also hope this anime will flop but not possible because too many china normies fans will support them and say their animation is better. I didn't play this game since this game is a strategy game and not an action game...
 
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