• If you're here for vtubers, I highly recommend you go to The Virtual Asylum instead.
    They'll love you there

KiwiFarms gets thrown under the bus by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene inadvertently providing cover for Keffals

Thread Description
Army of drooling imbeciles attack Free Speech Forum because people there said mean things about Keffals

Hexasheep93

varishangout.com
Regular
Well I guess I should make my center left political views known then. Is there a way to post a bio on my profile. I'm still relatively new.

For the record, I think kiwi farms was a cess pool of retarded, freakish alt-right incels who's cancerous activities were nothing short of terrorism. And I highly praise Keffals for her successful campaign in shutting down there freakish site. I came here to engage with weebs, lolicons and social outcasts. Not far right cyber bullies. Hopefully those aren't the kind of people that lark here.
Im not gonna judge for your political beliefs, or for disliking kf

But keffals is definetly not someone to be admired, Not only is she part of the "lolicons are pedos" club, but has proven countless times to be manipulative(multiple cases of stealing content from her followers) and egotistical (attacked other trans people cause they didnt blindly follow her). and Im sure you are aware of the whole catboy ranch stuff

And yes Im aware kf has an ample list sins too, but Id rather not deal with a monster to kill another one
 

Insane Nerd Ramblings

varishangout.com
And I highly praise Keffals for her successful campaign in shutting down there freakish site. I came here to engage with weebs, lolicons and social outcasts. Not far right cyber bullies. Hopefully those aren't the kind of people that lark here.
Keffals is no ally of ours. "She" has attacked lolicons, siccing her army of drooling asshats on us on Twitter, labeling us as "pedos". In essence, she is no different than the shitheads at KiwiFarms that attack us as well. The enemy of my enemy may very well be my enemy. And Keffals still gets the asshole award for attacking A_Gusty_Gal (who is transgender) for daring to disagree with the LGBTQ "community" on Twitter.
 

Mr. Suave

varishangout.com
TL;DR: I hate both conservatives and liberals. I love the LGBT community. IRL harassment isn’t free speech. I enjoy Varis hangout but hope it’s not as filthy as KF. I would probably hate Keffals, but she did a good thing by shutting down kiwi farms.

Since there seem to be some KF sympathizers here, there are some things I want to make clear. I'm not liberal or conservative. I identify as a radical centrist. Mostly due to feeling unwelcome on either side of the political spectrum as not only do my beliefs tend to piss off both sides but also both sides tend to piss me off equally as much. First off, since most right-wingers think shit like homosexuality and transgenderism are cancers to society I should admit that fact that I'm highly pro-LGBT. Mostly because I adore a group that doesn't contribute to the climate crises by breeding another toxic human being that’s just going to contribute to the cycle of environmental degradation. But also, because I love anyone who pisses off freaks that try to preach monotheistic religious philosophy as if it's moral. Conservative Christians are filthier and more irrational than most liberals. By far. Conservative arguments usually involve nothing more than dishonestly cherry-picking data and leaving out crucial context to push their talking points. That’s what happens when the majority of conservative thought is driven by religious indoctrination and its acquired cultural biases. You get pseudo-intellectualism.

But while I support the LGBT community I'm not the kind of retard that denies a person’s basic personal liberties. While I’m for same-sex couples to adopt children. But there’s no way in hell that I condone putting children on puberty blockers or forcing the gay lifestyle on them just to increase the numbers of the gay community or for whatever other reason they may have for pushing their sexuality and gender identity on a child. Sexuality and gender are for the individual to decide for themselves. Not anyone else’s. And yes I said gender identity. Gender is a spectrum. Look at a fucken dictionary. And no, gender dysphoria isn't a mental illness. It means that you have a different gender identity than the one you were assigned at birth. The desire to convey your gender in the way you feel most authentic is a normal aspect of free expression. Mental disorders are defined as thought patterns and behaviors that make it difficult to interact and function as a member of society. I have a mental disorder. I have ASPD and it makes me prone to narcissism and a disregard for the feelings and opinions of others. That obviosity makes socializing and functioning in the workforce a challenge. People who identify as a gender other than what was assigned at birth doesn't make them unable to function. The only thing that makes it difficult for these people to function in society is baseless attacks on their character. Transgender people can speak, work, socialize, and function as well as any other member of society. They have a mental illness because you insist it's a mental illness.

Whether the facts I spew out my gullet side with liberal or conservative thinking is the least of my concerns. For the record, most of my beliefs side left of the political spectrum simply because facts just tend to favor liberal thinking. Do you ever wonder why scientists usually donate to democrats? It’s because democrats - on average - listen to the science community and are more rational than conservatives. Barack Obama topped the list, taking in nearly $18 million from scientists and engineers during his two presidential campaigns. And he was a hardcore environmentalist. Food for thought to the people of Varish giving me shit for believing in climate change. But none of this goes to say that I particularly enjoy the double standards of lefties. Liberals love to flog and demean Christians for the sexist fascism they're constantly pushing, but once you try to attribute those same criticisms to Islam they completely flip the switch and call me a bigot. I want nothing to do with that level of cognitive dissonance, so I try not to associate my name with liberal circles. And don’t even get me started on the attacks on anime and video games that they constantly engaged in. I'm sure we can all agree that we’ve all had enough of that.

But it seems the free speech warriors on this forum can’t tell the difference between free discourse and harassment. Truth be told I don’t know a lot about Keffals or what activities she’s engaged in. In all honesty, I only heard of him/her/it when YouTubers began mentioning the KF shutdown. But whether or not she’s just another dumbass cunt riding the trend of virtue-signaling social drivel, the fact of the matter is this is one thing she’s done that’s actually beneficial to society. KF didn’t stick to its charter as a forum for the “exploitation of the mentally ill for entertainment purposes”. They committed actual crimes. They targeted underage girls, attempted to brake into homes, and participated in swatting, real-world stalking, and mass murder. Don’t think for a minute that this was just about free speech, and don’t any of you dare try to hind behind it as a means to justify their continued activities. If I were to get a relative of Mitch McConnell swatted, break into a republicans house or spray paint "kill republicans" on the side of their home, I would be charged with a crime. None of those actions are protected under the first amendment. If Keffals has ever participated in such criminal activity towards some poor misunderstood scrub that has done no physical wrong to the world of the living then my apologies, that’s an entirely different matter entirely. But shutting down a trash can of a forum like KF is the one good deed she deserves praise for, and that feeling isn’t going to change.

Make no mistake. I’m a free-speech absolutist. Without it, we wouldn’t be able to speak truth to power and call it willfully imbecilic. Regardless of political affiliation. But the difference between the dumbasses here on Varish and the dumbasses on KF is that the people here aren't making a conscious attempt to engage in real-world criminal activity. At least I hope not. I’m still relatively new here and haven’t seen any signs of major criminal activity from you guys. Just typical right-wing baboonery. Which is tolerable. I hate the majority of Twitter SJW’s as much as you guys do so we have some common ground in that area. Not so much the whole fake news bandwagon. The fake news hysteria is the result of stubborn retards not wanting to accept anything that contradicts their political brainwashing.

Anyways I've said my piece. I'm unwatching this thread. Infer from this rant what you may.
 
Last edited:

vulonkaaz

varishangout.com
Is varshhangout pro kiwi farms?
I actually don't like kiwi farms the vibes there are really off and I think people should mind their own business instead of making a whole-ass forum just for doxing and shittalking about every single person they dislike on the internet and I think the world would probably be a better place without them

but

the way the forum got (almost) terminated is absolutely unlawful, no judge actually deemed the forum to be illegal, it's just a bunch of trannies yet again proving themselves to be above the laws and governments, putting pressure on service providers who are too much of small dicks to just resist, do their fucking job and stay neutral in this

this whole thing is an act of war not only against kiwi farm, not only against free speech but against the very notion of justice itself
 

NretsewThePerv

varishangout.com
Regular
I identify as a radical centrist.

got to here and then realized i can sum up the rest as

Screen_Shot_2020-07-24_at_11.33.38_AM.jpg
 

Loded Diaper

varishangout.com
TL;DR: I hate both conservatives and liberals. I love the LGBT community. IRL harassment isn’t free speech. I enjoy Varis hangout but hope it’s not as filthy as KF. I would probably hate Keffals, but she did a good thing by shutting down kiwi farms.

But while I support the LGBT community I'm not the kind of retard that denies a person’s basic personal liberties. While I’m for same-sex couples to adopt children. But there’s no way in hell that I condone putting children on puberty blockers or forcing the gay lifestyle on them just to increase the numbers of the gay community or for whatever other reason they may have for pushing their sexuality and gender identity on a child.
2022.09.08-12.29-boundingintocomics-6319e036df9f8.png
 

Loded Diaper

varishangout.com
There is some much-needed context missing from that post. From what I can tell, the individual isn't being pressured or forced by an adult to transition.
Minors aren't mentally mature enough to take hormones that can have permanent effects on their body. Minors especially teens have issues with their self image already, which is easy to tie gender. If someone feels ashamed to have a larger chest or body hair, that can be confused for gender dysphoria and they could make changes to they body they regret as adults. It's also illegal to make your own HRT even if you are an adult, because home-made drugs in general lead to issues. At least Walter White had cancer, Kerffals is just a ideological groomer even if they self deluded themselves into thinking she isn't.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

varishangout.com
Regular
I hear some jurno named Caroline Farrow has been arrested on charges of malicious communications and harassment for posts she made on Kiwi Farms? can anyone confirm this for me the only articles I could find about this are from Pinknews

I believe Josh talked about this recently. Not fully sure though. It might have been in one of the last two MATIs.
 

Insane Nerd Ramblings

varishangout.com
If Josh and his ilk hadn't proved to be such ungrateful faggots with their BS on poa.st, I would say this was undeserved. But the chickens have finally started coming home to roost and a lot of us told him this would happen if he didn't remove the shitheels on the forums that decided to shit up the Fediverse. Dogs are smart enough not to shit where they eat or sleep. Sadly, the same can't be said for Josh and his merry band of shitheads....
 

Saibrah

varishangout.com
If Josh and his ilk hadn't proved to be such ungrateful faggots with their BS on poa.st, I would say this was undeserved. But the chickens have finally started coming home to roost and a lot of us told him this would happen if he didn't remove the shitheels on the forums that decided to shit up the Fediverse. Dogs are smart enough not to shit where they eat or sleep. Sadly, the same can't be said for Josh and his merry band of shitheads....
Did Jersh fuck your mom or something? Calm down.

Also wtf I was starting to believe the trannies had moved on from caring about the farms.
 

grapedApe

varishangout.com
Regular
Still don't like kiwi but the escalating methods to take them down is a threat to all of us as null said. It won't be long until some politician sees "hey, this fuckels faggot got censorship because the 'almighty trans', why can't we have that against everything we hate?"

Whatever daily stormer and other sites did to immunize themselves from transfag bullshit null needs to do and stop holding out hope for america because america is dead set on becoming china, he should know better by now idealistic bullshit rarely works out.
 
Last edited:

Mr. Suave

varishangout.com
Minors aren't mentally mature enough to take hormones that can have permanent effects on their body. Minors especially teens have issues with their self image already, which is easy to tie gender. If someone feels ashamed to have a larger chest or body hair, that can be confused for gender dysphoria and they could make changes to they body they regret as adults. It's also illegal to make your own HRT even if you are an adult, because home-made drugs in general lead to issues. At least Walter White had cancer, Kerffals is just a ideological groomer even if they self deluded themselves into thinking she isn't.
I agree that it’s not a decision to be taken lightly. There should be a lot of consideration and forethought given to the decision to transition. The individual should be made aware of the cultural and medical issues that arise. It's in no way a rash decision to make and it should defiantly be a conversation between the individual and a clinical phycologist. And pursuing any kind of hormonal therapy or invasive procedures without medical professionals being kept in the loop is never a good idea.

But puberty blockers (I'm assuming that is what we're talking about here) are 100% safe as long as they're used with the correct instruction. All they do is pause the production of testosterone and estrogen. Once a person stops using the medication, the body begins production once more, leading to normal development. Making them by and large completely harmless. Your assertion that puberty blockers are dangerous is false. As is your claim that minors aren’t “mentally mature” enough to make these decisions. If that’s the case then shouldn’t the rate of transition regret among LGBT youth be through the roof? It ain’t!

The transition regret rate among teenagers who transition is around 3.8%. And that small number is normally attributed to bullying. Employment issues and discrimination are the leading causes of transition regret among LGBT youth. Not because they didn’t feel comfortable with themselves after transitioning. It’s the ostracization and violence of our culture that lead to transition regret among the LGBT youth. I estimate that 1% of teenagers truly regret transitioning. 2% at most.

Let it be known. I’m not siding with Keffals, I’m siding with the research that concludes gender-reaffirming improves the emotional state of those questioning. But I’m sure even someone with a master’s degree in clinical psychology is an “ideological groomer” as you put it.

That is the kind of bigoted pseudo-intellectual bullshit is that makes conservatives the detached sacks of fascist shit that they are. Grooming accusations are what you shitheads slap on anyone that disavows your intellectually limited stances. None of the ridiculous fears regurgitated by you cultural warriors make any sort of coherent sense. A teacher educating students on queer or genderqueer identity does not make that teacher a predator or a groomer. It makes them an educator. That’s not to say that organized indoctrination of children doesn’t exist. But those are mostly by the right-wing freaks filling children with ridiculous conspiracy theories and long-debunked religious dribble. Not to mention all of the cases of catholic sexual abuse. I have no clue what makes a christian conservative of all people think that he can slap the groomer label on an educator when their reputation as groomers is documented far and wide.

Who’s more likely to know what the fuck they’re talking about. A southern dipshit whose only experience on the topic at hand is a religious upbringing and a GED as his only credential, or an educated atheist with no such biases and a master’s degree in clinical phycology. Forgive me for my obvious bias but I’m going to listen to the one with the degree.

I doubt such an undereducated dipshit that makes unsubstantiated claims about puberty blockers and doesn’t even know what grooming is would take even an academic’s words seriously. If sighting medical research by qualified clinical physicians is “grooming” as you put it. Then that really makes the entire science community a community of ideological groomers. In other words, educators are groomers. Best not to send your children to public school if that’s your attitude. Then again, people who frequent a forum like this rarely get the opportunity to breed. Thank god for that.

Anyways. My stance remains on the subject. it’s the individual’s decision. It’s their choice what to do with their bodies. Not yours, the government’s, or anyone else’s.
 
Last edited:
Top