In none of my posts I refuted this.
Again, your reading comprehension is abysmal, and you just sound like an angry high school girl screaming all the bad names you can find about a person I'm supposed to dislike. I doubt you're a woman though, even though you sound like one, you're probably a fed or a shill. And I forgive you for your inability to read in either case.
Yes, I got triggered, triggered by your inability to engage in any kind of discussion, instead you're going on irrelevant tangents to describe how evil leftists are.
I don't think both sides are bad, I think all politicians and political figures are bad, and I think there are bad apples on both sides, you clearly being one of them.
I'm not sorry if I don't want to engage in your circle jerking, and agree with everything you said. And I won't apologize for not wanting to read the rest of your posts, as clearly it's probably continue to be unnecessary preaching.
It's fine, not everyone is able to read without being clouded by their own narrative. Your second paragraph just proves that.
oh please, quote me if I ever contradicted this?
Not that it matters that much, this thread is just screeching and masturbation, instead of actual discussion in search of clearing up potential misunderstandings.
This is why you're retarded.
No, you did not directly say that "leftists are free to do as they please", there's just no other conclusion anyone can come up with which makes sense with what you're saying here.
I disagree.
If the world turns left or right, that's irrelevant to anime.
Heck, you'll always end up with massive disagreements within a hobby's community simply due to the different cultures from its members.
The reason people push back petty politics in anime / translations is to prevent societal problems and political shifts from ruining the hobby and its community.
It's literally in your first post, you first make it like no matter what happens, anime is somehow not affected.
Then you muddy the waters, making it seem as if this is somehow a spectrum of equal camps, camps that are subjective in their stances, so there can't be a winner or someone with a "better argument" or "ideology".
And then you try and divert again, it's funny though, you sound like one of those "big pharma" tards that don't even know what they're targeting, yet you accuse the people here when they clearly pointed out the culprit. Leftists.
that's what I disagree with, if you want whatever you enjoy to become petty and miserable cultures warz battleground, that's your choice.
But if every anime out there is just a piece of right or left propaganda trying to "fight back" the other, then I'll think I'll just stop watching and idk play mahjong or some shit instead.
Here's where you yourself jump to conclusions, nobody here said that anime needs to be a propaganda tool, what was said is that you need to be taking a stance so the infiltration stops. When a community is unwelcome to your retarded ideology, the only reason you'd enter it is to be disruptive, not many do that on purpose.
this sentence makes no sense, you're implying all outsiders are leftists; or that leftists weren't part of the community before you arrived.
Ghibli has a very clear "leftist" message. Yet nobody considers it invasive.
The second issue here is that you further try and reduce the issue and again, muddy the waters. Outsiders are mostly leftists, yes. Who else is trying to undermine anime at the moment? Leftists.
I don't even need to mention that it doesn't matter if they are somehow a big part of the community, because the moment they want to change what makes anime anime, that means they've renounced that membership anyway.
How am I part of the cycling community if I'm screeching that I want every bicycle to be made into a motorcycle?
The Right's only response, on the internet -and in society- has been to act exactly like the left has done, except they don't have the high ground. Our societies are simply so divided that both sides have just chosen escalation in the cultures war. I want no part in it, I want to enjoy my hobbies free of that. So I'll push back against commies as much as nazis to keep their stupid battleground outside my hobbies.
Here you are fence-sitting harder. "Both sides are bad", not like you didn't imply it everywhere else, you just clarified it here.
No, but conservative movements have enforced and censorred other things. Not in Japan, but when importing anime from them.
Maybe, just maybe, you could ask yourself why the fuck penises, and vaginas are covered by black boxes in your hentai doujins...
I'll ignore the rest of what you said, I just feel you're bitter and just want to insult me for no other reason than voicing my disagreement.
And more of "both sides are bad".
You come in, you contradict yourself left and right, say the solutions provided are bad, you don't tell us what to do except come up with a more vague "fight the overarching shadows behind", claim that both sides are bad anyway so it doesn't matter, so there's no actual thing that can be done, but you also say that anime isn't concerned about these issues, yet you somehow agree that leftists are trying to change it. You're a mess.
There's no "clearing up potential misunderstandings" when you're a bundle of contradictions and misunderstandings that you created by yourself.
You have to be shitting me, you're practically denying reality at this point, clearly, nothing changed since leftism came to power. Nope, nothing at all! This very same forum has a shitton of examples and you're here saying this shit.
