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NSFW [Lolicon History] Fusion Product Lolita/Bishoujo Special Edition [Translation]

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Yet again, I didn't receive an e-mail you posted a reply... I wonder what's going on.
Back in 2004, 4chan had a board called 'real beautiful women' /real/, which was their idol board, and I've always been under the impression these sorts of guys pay more attention to things in Japan than western anime fans. I suspect dannyphantom was one of those types, since the things he brought up seem to be the sort an idol otaku or a subculture type would be interested in; he found an article in English about Aoyama Masaaki and a video uploaded to Youtube featuring him, which is remarkable to me...

The article by Kitahara Minori talks about the thing with junior idols in Akihabara, but you can search for information on this stuff on Youtube with 'ジュニアアイドル', there's some videos sharing 2ch threads, like one where a former junior idol did an 'Ask Me Anything' thread (link). And another video where a user tries to understand the mindset of the mothers involved (link) (i.e. they're the female equivalent of a sports father trying to turn his son into a sports superstar because he's too old to be sports superstar himself).

I think you have to view the video on Youtube's website. The cog icon allows you to switch languages for the OCR to auto-translate. Also, if you click the 'show more' button on the video description, there should be an option towards the bottom that opens up the transcription (i.e. Show Transcript). If these options aren't available on PC, then I can send you the transcripts through a private message.

OHYO gave Kasumi and Kazuna stock questions, hence their answers (Kazuna likes telling stories, and I want to translate/share some of them). While it's probably not obvious when reading these interview transcripts, a lot goes on behind the scenes for the good ones. Kera had all of Ogata Katsuhiro's books (with a plethora of bookmarks) in their private room to help jog his memory, and Kimi Rito was there to assist on his computer.

Err, Manga Burikko is the origin of Otaku. Though, I guess Ogata Katsuhiro is the one who set all of the pieces together to make that happen, since it's his connection with Endou that led to Nakamori Akio writing the Otaku Research columns in the first place. Before Kera's interview, it would've been easy to assume Manga Burikko was solely Ootsuka Eiji when the reality is that there were 3 people involved.

For whatever reason, I never bookmarked Kazuna Kei's Pixiv account despite following his website for about 20 years, and when I did follow him after translating that article, he followed me back on Pixiv. He's had that account for over a decade and only followed about a hundred artists, so I'm unsure why he specifically followed me; the stuff I upload to my Pixiv account is different to the kinds of stuff he normally bookmarks.

... I think most of these articles always open up with Lolicon originating from Nabokov's book. Very few of them seem to mention Russel Trainer (he's the one who coined Lolita Complex).
Takatori Ei made it a point in his article to say the Lolicon youth aren't like Humbert from Lolita, but more like his idea of Lewis Carroll.

Do a google image search of Kirin Lemon (in Japanese). That paragraph reads like some flat-chested girl in an anime describing how she's more attractive than the titty-monster girl ("linear beauty").

It's supposed to be a healthy Christian magazine for healthy young men and women, no lewd or taboo stuff. I guess this would make more sense if you saw an entire issue of Fusion Project; it's largely a cut and dry information magazine, but things changed after this Lolita/Bishoujo special.

She's mentioned a couple times in previous articles. I'm not certain right now if this is Ogata giving his own opinion, or if he's regurgitating something someone like Hirukogami Ken said to him.

When I gained internet access in 2003~, Masterbloodfer was a Spanish site that dealt in hentai, and Farhad was a French website that catalogued a certain genre of manga (I think I learned to do scanlations because I wanted access to Farhad's list of manga, but he kinda disappeared right when I was learning how to typeset and edit with photoshop). My old scanlation host, Gamerkun, was from Peru, and the artist I'm currently collaborating with, Yeni, is from Mexico.

Well, since you can read Spanish, maybe you can give me your analysis of Christian Hernandez's research; he strikes me as the Spanish equivalent of Patrick Galbraith, though I feel like he's a little more bold in sharing stuff I think shouldn't be shared (even if he censors it). Maybe there's value in translating his research from Spanish to English.




Source:『月刊OUT』1982/3

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Azuma Hideo VS Yonezawa Yoshihiro


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Azuma Hideo (吾妻ひでお): People call him the Lolicon Emperor, but the man himself is a genius mangaka who says, "I cannot say I'm not a Lolicon, but Lolicon? That's presumptuous." Ever since OUT's 'Azuma Hideo Special Feature', he's been in the minor magazine world not for money, but to raise havoc.

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Yonezawa Yoshihiro (米沢嘉博): People call him the 'man who spread Lolicon and Sick into society', but the man himself is a manga critic who says, "I'm going to be healthy and get married, maybe." He's also the representative of Comiket, and due to the division kerfuffle the other day, he's been pressured to 'line his own pockets in OUT'!?



The Doujinshi World and Pro-zine


OUT:
How did the two of you get to know each other?

Yonezawa: From the 'OUT' special feature. After writing a critique there, I was introduced to him by Q-san, the editor of 'Peke' (ペケ), at a third-rate gekiga-related year-end party-ish place. So, I said 'hello'.
※Note: Q-san is likely Kawamoto Kouji (川本耕次)

Azuma:
After that, Yonezawa-san released 'Flowers for Azuma Hideo' (吾妻ひでおに花束を), and we've been running into each other quite often. He was doing the editing for 'Gekiga Alice' (劇画アリス). From there to my becoming a minor star (laughs) was triggered by the 'OUT' special feature.

Yonezawa: Is that a good thing, or a bad thing......?

Azuma: Well, let me ask you some things. Because Yonezawa-san's always asking me. So, he's pursuing me around Comiket......

OUT: That's nice.

Yonezawa: Uuuugh......

Azuma: If it's not a bother, in terms of trends overall, is it true the doujin world is reflected in pro-zines?

Yonezawa: Looks like it. Around the first or second Comiket, there was homo-parody-ish stuff. Well, you could say that gave birth to shoujo mangaka doujinshi that expanded the homo parts.

Azuma: Ah, weren't women mainly influenced by Takemiya-san (竹宮惠子) in that aspect?

Yonezawa: What I mean is a little different. It escalated from being crude and minor, you see. For a time, Comiket was full of homo-type doujinshi. 'JUNE' was born from that. Afterwards, the Yamato Boom struck and was turned into parodies......

Azuma: Anime-parodies, huh?

Yonezawa: If you were to sort them, Comiket was all about experimental/youth manga, reserve army-style shoujo manga, SF manga——and, by making the most of the place called the doujinshi world, parodies that manga fans use for play. Then the Yamato Boom gave rise to parodies, and well, that's the history of postwar doujinshi.

Azuma: So that part was overlapping with OUT?

Yonezawa: Yeah, well (speaking ambiguously). It's been about half a year since then, and the wave's reached a professional or minor level. Lolicon has been coming to the surface since last winter, and started to influence pro-zines this summer.

Azuma: So they're very closely connected.

OUT: Well, Minori Shobo existing now is thanks to Comiket.

Yonezawa: In the past, the OUT editors were Comiket participants. But these days, they're major......... (laughs).

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Even if the Lolicon Boom has Passed


Azuma:
What's your future prospect? ... I suppose it's about time for Lolicon to hang up its hat.

Yonezawa: This winter will probably be its peak. After that, Angie and Koeda-chan seem to be getting a lot of attention in some parts.

Azuma: That's a transitional thing, don't you suppose that's proof it's close to being over?

Yonezawa: But I believe the erotic parts will remain. After all, everyone likes sexy stuff, so I believe some will remain to play around with that. Ero.

Azuma: Are you going to have to censor them?

Yonezawa: I definitely don't want to do that.

Azuma: Then you don't mind radical expressions?

Yonezawa: Yeah, I believe I don't mind fighting over that. However, I would like participants to be careful about copyright issues——if they were to use something like Sazae-san (サザエさん) without permission, that would cost them 400,000 yen.

Azuma: Are you going to keep continuing Comiket?

Yonezawa: I hope there'll be a generational change in some form. But I like things like that because they can invigorate and inspire.

Azuma: So, what kind of work do you do that forms the foundation of your livelihood, Yonezawa-san?

Yonezawa: Err, sadly things like 'OUT' and 'Manga Kisou Tengai' (マンガ奇想天外)......... (laughs).

Azuma: So, critique is your main job.

Yonezawa: Yeah, well...... (sinks into darkness). Manga critique itself isn't really in high demand.

Azuma: So you haven't been doing it lately.

Yonezawa: Cause there aren't any critiques in manga magazines. So, it's just manga fan magazines and information magazines......

Azuma: Do you feel that sort of thing is getting worse?

Yonezawa: It looks like manga introductions are in demand in information magazines, but the future doesn't look very bright.

Azuma: Oh—, it's getting dark (laughs).

Yonezawa: The talk with Toriyama Akira-san and the others before ours was a bourgeois talk (laughs).

Azuma: Speaking of which, Toriyama-san is opening the Nagoya Olympics. Someone said they'll manage with his tax money (bursts into laughter).

Yonezawa: I-I wonder if that's true.


If It Were Made Into an Anime, 'Absurd Diary'


Yonezawa:
Nowadays, the anime for things like 'Dr. Slump' (Dr.スランプ) and 'Urusei Yatsura' (うる星やつら) are hits, but what about you, Azuma-san?

Azuma: I watch 'Urusei Yatsura' on video.

Yonezawa: That's unexpectedly not suitable for children, and the punchlines are sharp.

Azuma: Yeah, sometimes there are twists to the original work, and it's more extreme than the original. So, every episode turns into a wreck (laughs), and in the next one, everything's back to normal. I like it, though.

Yonezawa: Though, it sounded like the PTA was making a fuss. You see, they're jumping around semi-nude for 30 minutes.

Azuma: Don't come out of the blue and say 'let's sleep' (laughs). But it's interesting. Lum-chan is sexy and has a unique charm to her that differs from the manga.

Yonezawa: The music is pretty good as well.

Azuma: Ahh, I also like that in the opening.

Yonezawa: I listen to it on tape.

Azuma: I'll have to also buy it! (Laughs)

Yonezawa: By the way, do they come to Azuma-san's place with stuff like anime projects?

Azuma: They come, but most of the time, they collapse (laughs).

Yonezawa: It's not that you particularly dislike doing it.

Azuma: Yeah, not particularly. If I did it, I could sleep and live (laughs).

Yonezawa: Though Tezuka-san also whispered to Azuma-san that now is the time to earn money. ——Do you have any ideas what causes the projects to collapse?

Azuma: After all, you see, the characters are good, but not the contents. It's hard to understand. I believe that's it.

Yonezawa: Do you feel you won't mind even if they change the contents?

Azuma: Yeah, if they were to do it, they would probably have to change them quite a bit.

Yonezawa: So, anything specific?

Azuma: Let's see, I——still can't say it (flatly).

Yonezawa: I bet it's sleeping as a 'secret' proposal somewhere. So, it's going to sleep forever and... (laughs).

Yonezawa: If you were to turn your own work into an anime, is there one you would like to do?

Azuma: If I did 'Absurd Diary' (不条理日記), I bet it wouldn't be well-received (bursts into laughter).

Yonezawa: Hm—m, I feel that's suitable for kamishibai, but...... (laughs)
※Kamishibai (Wiki)

Azuma:
One that ends in those 2 or 3 panels. Everyone is surprised with an 'ahh'. I believe it would be very interesting to include that sort of thing. I don't know, I wonder if someone will do it.


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About 'Gundam', About Anime


Yonezawa:
Come to think of it, there was an old story about Azuma-san writing something about 'Gundam' in 'OUT', but......?

Azuma: In the end, I didn't write it.

Yonezawa: What were you planning to write?

Azuma: Well, nothing really. I said I would write, but it's more like "I'll watch it". So, it was dark. After watching a few episodes, I felt like it doesn't really suit my personality.

Yonezawa: It was tense, but in the end, it was enjoyable.

Azuma: It was interesting story-wise. I don't want to say whether or not it's SF. Well, either way is fine. Eh, people quickly die. Then they burst into tears (laughs). I don't like that.

Yonezawa: That reminds me, Azuma-san's manga is dry.

Azuma: I believe it's more effective if you want to express sadness by being dry. Whether it's because I'm too conscious of children or it's just my personality as a creator......

Yonezawa: On the other hand, in Japan, people won't understand unless it's said clearly, and it's considered a virtue to not show your sadness. I feel like straightness is being demanded in entertainment. Put simply, people won't be happy if you don't depict obvious tragedy or tears in drama fiction.

Azuma: I've never liked that sort of stuff.

Yonezawa: It's embarrassing, right?

Azuma: Rather than embarrassing, I feel angry (laughs). If I had a pistol, I would immediately shoot the television! (Bursts into Laughter)

Yonezawa: You hate it that much (laughs).

Azuma: Even in grand dramas, I'm no good when those sort of scenes show up. If it's absolutely necessary, then hm—m...... After all, if possible, I would prefer not to cry. If Tomino-san (富野) read 'Starship Troopers' (宇宙の戦士), he wouldn't cry. By portraying them until their death, he should depict them as a wonderful person the reader can emphasise with. So, they die in some battle in the first line, and that's it. If it's kept to that level, I would be moved. ——Cry, Amuro (laughs). Yell so-and-so's name, like a fool.

Yonezawa: Anime is all about the screaming.

Azuma: Wah, it's no good if they don't scream, you know? (Laughs)

Yonezawa: Umm, people won't remember if they say a line that's too long. You can't simply depict someone's psychological state in a drama, so if they're angry, then they have to say "I'm Angry—!", and if they're sad, then they have to say "Okaa-sa—n!" (bursts into laughter). That might be the reason why anime is simpler than manga in that respect. Cause you aren't able to reread it.

Azuma: I suppose so. The way you create a drama is the same way you create a movie. I guess there needs to be compromises in that respect. I feel it's not good to make things easier to understand. Well, if you read Tomino-san's autobiography, you'll understand this guy has this sort of character. That guy is a man who's moved by his entire body (laughs). So, all I can say is that he doesn't have the right character. I can already feel the emotion flowing! (Laughs)

Yonezawa: Yeah, when you're in a river and it becomes noisy. Up ahead is a waterfall, and then you fall (laughs).

Azuma: The slug crawls (laughs).

Yonezawa: Well, I guess that's no good.

Azuma: B, but in that respect, 'Conan' is the same. ——But 'Angie' is better because she's dry.

Yonezawa: You have no room for that sort of tearful drama, huh?

Azuma: I like things that don't make me cry. ——However, such dry works that don't make you cry aren't becoming mainstream. I wonder what happened on the anime side.

Yonezawa: Something like 'Goku's Great Adventure' (悟空の大冒険). Though it doesn't look like it was very popular. ——Azuma-san's manga doesn't make me cry. Even if tears well up, it becomes a parody. I feel like the foundation in accepting that sort of thing has come a long way in the last decade or so. From 'Geba Geba 90 Minutes' (ゲバゲバ90分) to 'Monty Python' and Tamori (タモリ). Something like a dry laugh has started to become accepted.
※Tamori (Wiki)

Azuma:
However, I feel with 'Gundam' being popular, I don't have much hope for young people (laughs). They're all gloomy people screaming someone's name at the edge of a cliff (bursts into laughter).

Yonezawa: It'll be truly terrifying when they start screaming (laughs).

Azuma: All we have to do is push them off the cliff (laughs).

Yonezawa: That's quite the disturbing statement you just made. ——Gundam fans are terrifying. I get the sense they're the easily-influenced type. Maybe that's how they're going to turn out if they immerse themselves in things like that.

Azuma: No, it's their character.

Yonezawa: But I believe they weren't born that way, but rather they grew up watching emotional and passionate dramas in anime. You see, it would be the same as growing up reading Azuma-san's manga from the age of 3 and winding up strange (laughs).

Azuma: No, they'll grow up to be an upright human (laughs). They'll definitely wind up bright and healthy humans (bursts into laughter).

Yonezawa: That's precisely what they mean by Newtype (ニュータイプ).

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Strategies to Survive as a Mangaka


Azuma:
Yonezawa-san, you're a critic, but you're also a maniac, right?

Yonezawa: There was a time when maniac was used in a discriminatory sense; you're called an extreme maniac and discriminated against. The mood still remains where you cannot boast about being a maniac.

Azuma: I guess it's because some radical fans were going wild for a while (laughs).

Yonezawa: That's right, the kind that'll come directly to your home.

Azuma: Yeah, there are some crazy people. It's been happening a lot recently, including mine.

Yonezawa: Let me tell you, the guy who collects money for the Asahi Shimbun (朝日新聞) told me something like 'I read OUT' (laughs), and someone who worked part-time at a post office once came to me with mail in hand saying, 'Ohh, you live here?'. Unexpected visitors are kinda terrifying (laughs).

Azuma: My wife is always terrified when she opens the door and a dark person suddenly speaks to her. She tells me a man with strange eyes came.

Yonezawa: Err, the people who become fans are those on the same wavelength as the creator. A theory I've been mulling over is that a certain type of pheromone is secreted from a mangaka's art, and similar people are attracted to them (laughs).

Azuma: No, ahh, that makes sense, but I don't want to see guys who look like me.

Yonezawa: Ten mirrors walking around Oizumi Academy in the middle of the night (laughs).

Azuma: You won't progress if you meet people the same as you...... I like cheerful people.

Yonezawa: After all, conversation is dialectically......... (laughs). By the way, how is your recent work going?

Azuma: The number of major works is steadily increasing. Because I have many serials.

Yonezawa: But you ended the one in 'Big Spirits' (ビッグスピリッツ), and the one for Kodansha also ended a while ago.

Azuma: I feel like I'm going to be drawing in 'OUT' soon. Hahaha.

Yonezawa: Another ice age...... (everyone bursts into laughter).

Azuma: But, you see, you won't survive if you become major, so if you're about to become major, you quit and step back...... (laughs).

Yonezawa: The weathering is quick, huh?

Azuma: It really will end you in three years. And once you get used to it, it becomes boring.

Yonezawa: So keep at it and try not to become major.

Azuma: Yeah...... But I guess it's true.

Yonezawa: Do you have a strategy for that?

Azuma: I do! (Resolutely)

Yonezawa: In any case, the amount of manga has increased recently, I haven't been able to read them all.

Azuma: I wonder why it has increased.

Yonezawa: Because it doesn't sell...... They say manga magazines have hit a plateau. The idea is if you cannot create a magazine that sells a million copies, then you should just publish three magazines that sell 300,000 copies. There's hundreds of them. How often do you read, Azuma-san?

Azuma: Only the ones I already decided upon.

Yonezawa: People say once you become a mangaka, you don't read manga anymore. Azuma-san, you read quite a lot, right?

Azuma: I lose to Ishikawa-san (いしかわ). That guy wants free books, so he draws for various companies.

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The Gap Between Major and Minor......


Azuma:
Are there any young people you're paying attention to now?

Yonezawa: Let's see, Hosono Fujihiko (細野不二彦) and Tori Miki (とり・みき) are good.

Azuma: I also like Tori Miki.

Yonezawa: It's amazing how many gags he can cram in!

Azuma: There are very few people seriously trying to do nonsense like that.

Yonezawa: They say gags use energy, but Azuma-san, you've been doing gags for 13 years. I think that's amazing.

Azuma: It's easy to get struck in a rut, though.

Yonezawa: There's a theory gag manga can only last for 3 years. Even Yamagami-san (山上) hasn't been very active lately. I feel like there's something troubling him.
※Yamagami Tatsuhiko (山上たつひこ) (Wiki)

Azuma:
Well, I believe it's correct he kept doing 'Gaki Deka' (がきデカ). In short, it cannot be helped doing things like that would make you depressed for a while. I believe he'll spring back to life again, like Shouji Sadao (東海林さだお)......

Yonezawa: What about the generation of readers changing as you progress?

Azuma: That's right.

Yonezawa: Readers from the beginning will get used to the patterns and humour as they read, but what do you think? Azuma-san, you've been doing this for over ten years.

Azuma: When I reread them, I draw something similar. But I'm not a major. That alone is my strength! (Laughs)

Yonezawa: I feel like you're going back and forth between major and minor.........

Azuma: Yep, I'm barely surviving.

Yonezawa: Well, it was pretty bad when you were doing 'Futari to Gonin' (ふたりと5人).

Azuma: Yeah, it was bad. I'm glad to change my pattern over there.

Yonezawa: Speaking of which, the mood and structure of your early works are similar to ones you're doing now.

Azuma: Yeah, you could say I've returned to normal a little. I generally cannot draw things that are too different. It's like I don't have much in the way of material. Like, 'Hmm, I feel like I wrote this Name somewhere before'. Maybe it's the same Name. If you mess up, it'll be someone else's Name. That's not good (laughs with a hahaha).

Yonezawa: I believe manga maniac creators sometimes do that subconsciously.

Azuma: Use it. Hoi-hoi (laughs). When I'm writing, I believe it's a Name I've seen somewhere before, but at that time, I don't know.

Yonezawa: However, that's the strength of gag manga; it can be interpreted as parody.

Azuma: It's fine to use the Name of a movie. I often use Miyaya Kazuhiko-san's (宮谷一彦) Names.

Yonezawa: You must be glad to be doing gag manga.


Lolicon with a Shining Gold Badge...


OUT:
Umm, I would like you two to move on to today's main topic, Lolicon. After all, the tentative title of today's talk is 'I'm not the Lolicon Emperor. Let's Properly Get Married, Everyone'...... (laughs).

Azuma: P, please stop—. By the way, what sort of relationship did it have at Comiket before 'Cybele'?

Yonezawa: If I had to say it existed, then it existed. Among shoujo manga fans, the word Lolicon was used quite often. The girls drawn by Tadatsu Youko (忠津陽子) and Chigira Hatsumi (千明初美), and Marybelle, were cute.
※Marybelle Portsnell (メリーベル・ポーツネル), a character from 'The Poe Clan' by Hagio Moto (萩尾望都).

Azuma:
Yeah, I know.

Yonezawa: Originally, it was something like eroticism in manga, but I feel it's always been an attraction. There are theories regarding Astro Boy's sexiness, and that things like Captain Ken's eyelashes are sexy (laughs). That sort of eroticism, I feel like there was a trend of stimulating the deepest parts of a boy's heart.

Azuma: I agree. We also remember Tezuka-san's sexy poses. But it's true you weren't supposed to say things like that, right?

Yonezawa: Y, yeah, that's right. I felt that aspect was taboo.

Azuma: Then it burst out all at once. However, I get the impression young people these days aren't like that.

Yonezawa: Yeah, everyone proudly answers 'I'm a Lolicon!' (laughs). Like they have a Lolicon badge, or something, shining on their chests. So, well, shounen manga has always had a tendency to feature at least one cute girl.

Azuma: That's right.

Yonezawa: It's also written in 'Mangaka Introductory Guide' (マンガ家入門) (with confidence).

Azuma: That thing hid the sexy parts deep inside. But it was sleeping in the depths of my consciousness.

Yonezawa: That said, Akiko Nee-san from 'Star of the Giants' (巨人の星) wasn't sexy at all. She was sinewy and muscular. After all, I feel like there are no cute girls in shounen manga anymore thanks to gekiga. ——So, some shounen manga fans turned to shoujo manga because they don't like short-legged, bulky girls like that.

Azuma: Well, there was a long foreshadowing.

Yonezawa: As part of the resurgence of shounen manga, Lolicon has appeared. Azuma-san's art is surprisingly in line with traditional shounen manga. In the past 4 or 5 years, cute girls have started to appear again, triggered by the love-comedies in shounen manga.

Azuma: So, it's not who did it, it just happened naturally.

Yonezawa: Yeah, in postwar shounen manga......

Azuma: It's history, history.

Yonezawa: Lolicon didn't come out of nowhere. Don't most guys like cute girls, and like drawing them?

Azuma: However, each person's sense of cuteness is different. What I mean is you couldn't say the shoujo manga girls were cute or you like manga-style girls. Perhaps they were cowards......? If you ask a gekiga person, they would call you a 'moron!' with a diagonal line in their mouth (laughs).

Yonezawa: Then we received a shock with a 'ga—n!' (laughs).

Azuma: So, now they can say that. I feel like it's because people nowadays haven't experienced gekiga, so they can say it with a sparkle.

Yonezawa: Perhaps it's a time where Tatamae is unnecessary, and they can simply do their own hobby. Then they were given a cool, golden badge called 'Lolicon' (laughs).

Azuma: That's right, they're walking around. Me and my assistant are still modest, but when it comes to these high schoolers, they're unbelievable.

Yonezawa: Everyone is dignified.

Azuma: They shout in a big voice 'I'm a Lolicon—!', and I'm like 'Wait a minute!' (bursts into laughter).

Yonezawa: But it seems like not everyone is doing it out in public. It seems to be something only among manga fans.

Azuma: Lately, it feels like more and more men are approaching small girls......

Yonezawa: Aren't you responsible for that, Azuma-san?

Azuma: That's the trend. I've been drawing cute girls with no regard. Though there are some parts that are a little blatant. So, my assistant told me "let's do it", and I got hooked. It's my assistant's fault (laughs).

Yonezawa: I see. Hm—m.

Azuma: Even then, don't you think the truly sick will remain? I believe the public boom will end.

Yonezawa: I believe cute girls will remain.

Azuma: No, I feel like the dark gekiga age is coming again.

Yonezawa: Hm—m, how do you feel about some calling you the Lolicon Emperor, Azuma-san?

Azuma: It's almost time for me to vacate the throne! (Laughs)

Yonezawa: Are you talking about Uchiyama Aki-san (内山亜紀)?

Azuma: That guy keeps drawing just that and doesn't get bored, he really likes it—.

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Even Once the Boom Passes, the True Sick Remain


Yonezawa:
By the way, Azuma-san, are there any girls in manga you think are cute?

Azuma: After all, Tezuka-san's girls. And the wealthy young lady that appears in Ishimori-san's 'TV Boy' (テレビ小僧).

Yonezawa: Those upturned eyes......

OUT: The expansion of the skirts......

Azuma: Yes, yes, and the girl that appeared in Tezuka-san's western 'Lemon Kid' (レモンキッド) was cute.

Yonezawa: So it turns out Tezuka-san is the key. Since postwar shounen manga started with Tezuka Osamu, does that mean Lolicon blood has been flowing since the beginning? So, who was the girl for Azuma-san? That is the question.

Azuma: That's why I have a wide range of interests. I can't say I'm an orthodox Lolicon. I'm different in that respect. I like both small girls and grown-up girls. The types are divided. I generally prefer cute, childish girls.

Yonezawa: They say Lolicon is a sickness incidental to civilisation, so for Azuma-san who grew up in Hokkaido.........

Azuma: Are you implying there's no culture in Hokkaido!? (Laughs) But there really isn't. There were no rental bookstores.

Yonezawa: Recently, it seems you've been doing a lot of Lolicon-related work.

Azuma: You could say I already gotten bored of Lolicon.

Yonezawa: But it feels like you're being labelled as a Lolicon mangaka.

Azuma: I dislike labels. Because they're boring. Anyway, calling me a Lolicon is presumptuous, that's an understatement.

Yonezawa: Some say if you get Azuma-san's seal of approval, you can become a top-notch Lolicon.

Azuma: Is that true—?

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Kajiwara Ikki = Heinlein Theory!!


Yonezawa:
Have you read any SF recently?

Azuma: Hm—m, I've been busy recently. But Poul Anderson's...

Yonezawa: 'JEM'.

Azuma: No, 'Gateway'. I've been rereading Heinlein recently. There's a theory that Kajiwara Ikki (梶原一騎) equals Heinlein (laughs).

Yonezawa: I feel like I understand.

Azuma: However, I feel that Heinlein is more luxurious than Kajiwara Ikki.

Yonezawa: There might be something similar.

Azuma: However, it's interesting rereading him again. I'm wondering if there's anything interesting like this.

Yonezawa: Do you ever get angry at something a character says or does while reading?

Azuma: I'm always angry while reading, but sometimes I find myself unable to read halfway through.

Yonezawa: Do you like long stories?

Azuma: I've always preferred drawing short ones, but when it comes to novels, I prefer long ones.

Yonezawa: What about Japanese SF?

Azuma: I don't read anyone but Tsutsui-san (筒井).

Yonezawa: Speaking of which, 'SF Ancient History' (SF古代史) was featured in 'Shousetsu Shinchou' (小説新潮)

Azuma: I read it. Azuma Hideo is coming.

Yonezawa: Japanese SF creators and everyone involved will be there. But it seems there were two people who didn't show up, but...

Azuma: The meaning is deep...... (laughs).

Yonezawa: That's right, we talked about this earlier, but do you dislike it when people push themselves too hard, even in SF?

Azuma: I like it when there's nothing moving or inspiring, and things dispassionately collapse into ruin.

Yonezawa: Yeah. In everyday life, things are dispassionately collapsing into ruin. ——Well then, let's dispassionately end this talk here.






This issue of OUT had 3 talks, and the first one was between Toriyama Akira and Sakuma Akira. Some part of me feels tempted to translate this merely to lure western fans of Dragon Ball to poop on the floor and embarrass themselves over it being hosted in a thread about Lolicon......

Toriyama Akira Nuclear Power Propaganda:

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The above propaganda was mentioned in a previous article in the thread. While westerners nowadays are getting super angry about modern entertainment media brainwashing kids in ways they don't approve of, the Japanese government, and groups pushing for nuclear power, went all in with trying to brainwash Japanese children into accepting it unlike the older generation who were vehemently against such things. Tezuka Osamu, Mastumoto Leiji, and Toriyama Akira were treated as political tools to further this agenda, while there's some who want to believe a couple of these artists had their art used without permission, many were complicit (though Matsumoto Leiji expressed regret over it). The amount of hatred for nuclear power far exceeds whatever is happening right now in western entertainment media (many people died, and many are sitting in jail with life-long prison sentences; they truly had a war, and they lost). If you want to read a short book on the subject (link).

Miyazaki Hayao hated nuclear power with a fiery passion:

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Personally, I enjoyed Miyazaki's manga serial in Animage, Nausicaä. While Miyazaki portrayed her actions as good, her decisions reflect that of a Japanese RPG villain when she doomed humanity to suffer and go extinct if they're unable to adapt to the changing environment; they couldn't be trusted not to abuse the knowledge that led to their world being devastated in the first place. Most children's entertainment media since then would have the villain want to force humanity to return to monkey like Nausicaä wanted while the bright-eyed protagonists scream, 'You're wrong; we won't make the same mistake!'.

Digression aside, here's what Azuma Hideo drew for the gas company he was working for when he Disappeared:
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Ok so now I think the reason it did not emailes you earlier is because I did not post it as a reply to you but as a post on the thread. Sorry:bap:

-Kitahara Minori article

I assume Kitahara Minori's article is on this thread. If so I guess Ill have to find it I will update when I read.

-Translate youtube videos

No I tried that too. Maybe Im missing something. Its fine you dont need to transcribe it for me, unless you think its really necessary for the topic at hand

-kazuna kei pixiv.

Maybe he is looking for translators

-latin america and manga and anime

Yeah there are (were?) A lot of latin american and european manga and hentai sites way back when.

Also Does the artist you are working with have a pixiv or fanbox? I would like to see their work if that is ok with you.

-Christian Hernandez research

Sure I can give it a look, but for my, admitedly little amount of googling, his research seems to be pay gated. You wouldnt happen to know where I can find it somewhere for free? Or at least cheper than the ridiculous prices universities put on papers?

Also what do you mean by showing spmething he should not have shown?:asui-what:

-Azuma vs Yonesawa

Well yeah it makes sense that doujinshi would be inspired by pro-zines, even if one is making an "amateur" work, one still wants it to look like the professionals.

Well Hideo was certainly right on the money about the sexual parts staying:shinobu_kaka: also, it always struck me as a little odd, Japan is a little infamous regarding its copyright laws, but at the same time its relatively easy to find doujinshi and fan work, for sale, that features copyrigthed material.

is manga critique still a thing now? Yonezawa made it sound like the "genre" was on its last legs.

So azuma was always hesitant to adapt his work into an anime. Its an understandable position, nowadays I feel that mangakas and creators in general are not being protective enough about their property when it comes to adaptations.


So Azuma does not like the now sterotypical anime sad death scene. I mean I think ot works if its well executed but thata just my opinion

Also just to keep things clear, by "maniac" are they talking about a fan? Or an otaku?

So correct me if I am wrong here but major and minor here refers to the manga publications right? Like nowadays shounen jump would be considered a major. Are there still any minors nowadays? I assume they probably dont get tranlated and sold outside Japan.

It still boogles my mind a little that there was a time when lolicon manga was as mainstream as stuff like shounen, crazy times the 80s:shinobu_kaka:.

Osamu Tezuka's art is really unique and yeah the girls are really nice

-toriyama interview.

I say do it, maybe that way I will stop seeing that annoying ass goku meme idiots post whenever someone posts loli art on twitter.

-nuclear power propaganda

I imagine it must have been quite the thing. Although my own biases maybe preclude me from seeing it as bad as what people are doing nowadays with media. So I guess I will still think the one happening now is worse

Miyazaki is one of those guys I like to separate the art from the artist. His works with gibhli are undeniably great. But the man is just super pig headed about everything and from what I hear not exactly pleasant to be around. I admit though that part of my dislike might be cause my politics do not align with his.

Nice final drawing.

Now just remember do not feel pressured to answer every question or comment I make, hell if you want you can ignore them all lol.

As always great read
 
Ok so now I think the reason it did not emailes you earlier is because I did not post it as a reply to you but as a post on the thread. Sorry:bap:

-Kitahara Minori article

I assume Kitahara Minori's article is on this thread. If so I guess Ill have to find it I will update when I read.

-Translate youtube videos

No I tried that too. Maybe Im missing something. Its fine you dont need to transcribe it for me, unless you think its really necessary for the topic at hand

-kazuna kei pixiv.

Maybe he is looking for translators

-latin america and manga and anime

Yeah there are (were?) A lot of latin american and european manga and hentai sites way back when.

Also Does the artist you are working with have a pixiv or fanbox? I would like to see their work if that is ok with you.

-Christian Hernandez research

Sure I can give it a look, but for my, admitedly little amount of googling, his research seems to be pay gated. You wouldnt happen to know where I can find it somewhere for free? Or at least cheper than the ridiculous prices universities put on papers?

Also what do you mean by showing spmething he should not have shown?:asui-what:

-Azuma vs Yonesawa

Well yeah it makes sense that doujinshi would be inspired by pro-zines, even if one is making an "amateur" work, one still wants it to look like the professionals.

Well Hideo was certainly right on the money about the sexual parts staying:shinobu_kaka:also, it always struck me as a little odd, Japan is a little infamous regarding its copyright laws, but at the same time its relatively easy to find doujinshi and fan work, for sale, that features copyrigthed material.

is manga critique still a thing now? Yonezawa made it sound like the "genre" was on its last legs.

So azuma was always hesitant to adapt his work into an anime. Its an understandable position, nowadays I feel that mangakas and creators in general are not being protective enough about their property when it comes to adaptations.


So Azuma does not like the now sterotypical anime sad death scene. I mean I think ot works if its well executed but thata just my opinion

Also just to keep things clear, by "maniac" are they talking about a fan? Or an otaku?

So correct me if I am wrong here but major and minor here refers to the manga publications right? Like nowadays shounen jump would be considered a major. Are there still any minors nowadays? I assume they probably dont get tranlated and sold outside Japan.

It still boogles my mind a little that there was a time when lolicon manga was as mainstream as stuff like shounen, crazy times the 80s:shinobu_kaka:.

Osamu Tezuka's art is really unique and yeah the girls are really nice

-toriyama interview.

I say do it, maybe that way I will stop seeing that annoying ass goku meme idiots post whenever someone posts loli art on twitter.

-nuclear power propaganda

I imagine it must have been quite the thing. Although my own biases maybe preclude me from seeing it as bad as what people are doing nowadays with media. So I guess I will still think the one happening now is worse

Miyazaki is one of those guys I like to separate the art from the artist. His works with gibhli are undeniably great. But the man is just super pig headed about everything and from what I hear not exactly pleasant to be around. I admit though that part of my dislike might be cause my politics do not align with his.

Nice final drawing.

Now just remember do not feel pressured to answer every question or comment I make, hell if you want you can ignore them all lol.

As always great read
One of the e-mail notifications came over a week after I've seen and read one of your posts, so I believe the issue may be board-related.
Youtube has speech-to-text functionality, so I'm not transcribing anything; just copy-pasting. Google '"show transcript" youtube'.
Because it's a machine, there's a lot of errors, but it's still impressive how far this sort of technology has advanced.
Also Does the artist you are working with have a pixiv or fanbox? I would like to see their work if that is ok with you.
Yeni has both, though her Pixiv gallery (2981825) is related to her boyfriend's fetishes instead of the stuff she draws that clearly highlights her exceptional talents as an artist (she rarely posts her good stuff publicly).
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My project is doggirl propaganda... I'll brainwash players with PLM (Puppy Lives Matter).
-Christian Hernandez research: Sure I can give it a look, but for my, admitedly little amount of googling, his research seems to be pay gated.
He has a youtube channel (link) and blog (link). I've seen him link to some of his digital papers from his blog that you can download for free (Lolicon: An Otaku Identity). Lately, he seems deeply invested in contemporary politics, like Kawamoto Kouji before he passed away due to Covid. The paper I linked is clean, but the one called 'El rorikon manga y la criminalización' is an example of him 'showing something he should not have shown'. I want to clear misunderstandings and misconceptions in this thread, but I would prefer to keep this thread clean out of respect for the host of this forum board. =\

In any case, Christian knows about Kawamoto Kouji, so he's above and beyond the meagre level of most English-speaking anime/manga authors. So if you find something by him that would be useful for the English-speaking fandom to know, I'll greatly appreciate you translating/summarising it (I'll give you lots of ♥puddy♥cat♥hearts♥).
Well yeah it makes sense that doujinshi would be inspired by pro-zines
Some of your comments make me think you're sleepy and tired... They were talking about fanzines influencing pro-zines, which is actually what happened with Lolicon and Yaoi breaking into the professional sphere via Peke (Lolicon) through Kawamoto Kouji and June (Yaoi) through Sagawa (this was mentioned in an earlier article Yonezawa wrote called 'JUN & Peke'. Both Kawamoto and Sagawa are close friends of Yonezawa Yoshihiro.
Also just to keep things clear, by "maniac" are they talking about a fan? Or an otaku?
Otaku is different from a 'maniac'. In Azuma Hideo's long interview, he labels himself an SF maniac, and his assistant Oki Yukao was labelled an Otaku.
Nakamori Akio came up with Otaku because the existing terms at the time did not best describe what he witnessed at Comiket and with some of the readers of Manga Burikko. What these words mean differs from person-to-person. One person described a maniac as someone who is focused on one thing, whereas an Otaku is only interested in one thing at the exclusion of everything else; maniacs can talk about other subjects and function socially, but Otaku are socially dysfunctional and talk one-sidedly about their hobbies.
So correct me if I am wrong here but major and minor here refers to the manga publications right?
Your understanding is correct. Japan likes baseball, so they're separating their commercial works between major league and minor league.
There's many minor magazines nowadays; it's part of the charm of Japan manga media.
It still boogles my mind a little that there was a time when lolicon manga was as mainstream as stuff like shounen
Lolicon Manga is Japan's most popular export nowadays—like the Borg from Star Trek, it assimilated practically everything. Western fans just aren't aware of it... Toriyama Akira incorporated it into Doctor Slump and Dragon Ball, and the theme of the Fist of the North Star animated film was Lolicon (the snippet video I link to this earlier was deleted, but here's another one). Which is why I created this thread because westerners didn't know what was meant by Azuma Hideo being the 'Father of Lolicon'; bad mouthing Azuma Hideo when one has Lynn Minmay as their avatar...
Although my own biases maybe preclude me from seeing it as bad as what people are doing nowadays with media. So I guess I will still think the one happening now is worse
Likely because you've been brainwashed like the Japanese children; they've been so thoroughly brainwashed they built 54~ nuclear power plants in earthquake-and-tsunami-prone Japan. Nuclear power is one of the most dangerous things in the world, so it needs to be taken very seriously in where you build them and how they're maintained. And for a generation who experienced the effects of nuclear radiation and devastation first-hand, what's happening in your modern media is a relative paper cut to them possibly seeing their ignorant children die horribly through radiation. So they fought with their lives on the line and lost, and the survivors were forced to live next to these things they hate more than AM hates humanity, and instead of being proven wrong as decrepit ol' worry warts, Fukushima happened...

I doubt I'll do any articles that delves into this, but there was a time when Tezuka Osamu, the most beloved mangaka nowadays, was hated by this anti-nuclear generation, and they really hated him and the way he was corrupting their children with stuff like Astro Boy (the Japanese title of his manga was Mighty Atom because one of its themes is that nuclear weapons are bad, but nuclear power can be used for good). I think Ehoba knows about the Tezuka bashing so if that kind of history interests you, you should ask him about it.




Thanks to someone who wishes to remain anonymous, I was able to translate some interviews and articles from a certain issue of Manga Burikko, Japan's 2nd Lolicon/Bishoujo Comic Magazine. But let's start by learning what Burikko means, and how it relates to Japanese culture!


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Source:『Kittredge Cherry 'Womansword: What Japanese Words Say about Women'』1987


Burikko: The Pretenders


To attract boyfriends, American girls pretend they are women, while Japanese women pretend they are girls. American girls, who grow up toying with busty Barbie dolls, usually can’t wait to start dressing themselves in bras, make-up, and high heels. In contrast, the Japanese ideal is a naive teenager, so women tend to play dumb for years after giving up their virginity. These falsely cute types are called burikko, or “pretending kids.”

An example of the ultimate burikko is Seiko Matsuda, Japan’s most popular female singer of the 1980s. Flat-chested and bowlegged, she sells about three million singles and one million LPs annually. By 1985, at the grand old age of twenty-two, she had sold 30 billion yen ($200 million) in records and tapes. Pop music idols start young in Japan, usually making their debut at age fifteen in what promoters openly admit is an effort to appeal to Japanese men’s “Lolita complex” (Rori-kon). Not only singers, but also many movie stars and models strive for Matsuda’s cutiepie look. Japanese seem to be drawn to media images of females who appear as approachable as the girl next door. The word burikko was coined by one of these young “talents,” Kuniko Yamada, on a television program in 1980.

“Cutie” (kawaiko-chan) is another term for the imitation innocents who are so common in Japan that a rich vocabulary exists to name them. Another synonym supposedly comes from the way such a woman feigns ignorance. She is likely to look at a kamaboko (a fish-paste sausage mounted on a wooden slab) and ask something silly like, “Is kamaboko a kind of fish (toto in baby talk) that has wood on its belly?” Hence, the word kamatoto. Against this background, it’s not surprising that Japan is the only country where Barbie dolls did not sell when they were first introduced. That is, Barbie didn’t sell well until toy makers redesigned her into a cute pretender who appears less buxom, less glamorous, shorter, and younger.


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Licca-chan VS Bimbo Barbie

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Barbie is supposed to be ageless with the only thing known about her is that she's 3 years older than Kendollinhide. But in Japan, Barbie is 17 years old, and Ken is 18 years old, and they've been together for over 51 years (Barbie's Forever 17; Pixiv Dictionary). Licca-chan is 11 years old, and she already went through like 5 boyfriends!

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Joking aside, Kittredge is talking about Takara Barbie (タカラバービー), who does bear an eerie resemblance to Licca-chan. I would think Japanese mothers, who are generally flat-chested and short, would prefer purchasing a less buxom or glamorous doll for their daughters. Regardless, it's interesting how a Christian lady didn't mess up when she described Lolicon, though her visit to Japan has seemingly turned her into a Yaoi maniac.


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Now that you know what Burikko means, here's the interviews and profiles for several artists who drew for Manga Burikko in 1983. I noticed Fujiwara Kamui seems to be known in English, so this might be interesting to those who happen to be one of his fans. Taniguchi Kei and Uchiyama Aki had interviews in previous issues. Minami Yuuko started drawing in 1984, by then the magazine seemed to have stopped doing interviews and talks with the artists (there's a free talk between Hasama Minoru and Shirakura Yumi in a different issue), but you can find some of her compilations on Sad Panda. Morino Usagi also drew for Manga Burikko, but thanks to information from Kera, I'm going to hopefully receive a mook in the mail in a few days that has an interview with both him and Kouga Yun (the latter is an artist I'm intimately familiar with since I did a fan translation for one of her works long ago).

Burikko Table of Contents (
Link)

To obtain the first 6 issue of Manga Burikko's renewal under Ogata Katsuhiro and Ootsuka Eiji, you'll need to find a second-hand seller who has physically removed certain pages, particularly P11-P14、P115-P118 (Suruga-ya) for this specific issue.


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Source:『漫画ブリッコ』1983/08 Vol.11

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Lovely Special Feature Part 4:
Standard Bearers of Young Bishoujo Manga

■Contents:
Hiromori Shinobu* (洋森しのぶ) Interview (Animation-Touch) (
Wiki) (Twitter) (Homepage)
Gotou Kasumi (五藤加純) Interview (Bright Eros) (Pixiv) (Twitter) (J-Comi)
Fujiwara Kamui (藤原カムイ) Interview (Post New Wave) (Wiki)

※Note: Hiromori Shinobu is another penname of Miyasu Nonki (みやすのんき). His name has appeared here and there throughout this thread due to the notoriety of his doujinshi activities (i.e. 'Studio Nonki'), among the earliest to do radical ero-parodies of popular anime series, particularly Miyazaki Hayao's films. You can find Nonki Vol.4 (のんき Vol.4) on Sad Panda; it's almost as historically significant as Cybele.


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Inconsiderate Shounen Manga Standard Bearer
Horimori Shinobu

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If you're wondering why his art looks anime-ish, but as it turns out, he's a big fan of Miyazaki Hayao. Horimori Shinobu is an up-and-coming spirited artist advancing into even shounen magazines.


My first impression of Horimori Shinobu is that of—well—what you might call a 'young man you can find lying around everywhere'. This seemingly normal young man draws very inconsiderate and disrespectful manga, which makes you cannot help but lament the future of Japan. We live in a time where the normal are the most dangerous.

Putting this incomprehensible story aside, he's been calling himself 'Lolicon Maker' (ロリコン・メーカー) since not too long ago, so I believe many readers will know him by that name.



——Why did you change your name?

Shinobu: Well—, it was kinda strange, Lolicon Maker.

——Yeah, well, it's not normal.

Shinobu: From now on, I'm going to be using 'Horimori Shinobu' for anything ero-manga-related, so clumsily look after me.

——Eh—, as is standard for interviews, I would like to ask you about the artists and works that influenced you the most.

Shinobu: Hm~mm, my deepest apologies to its fans, but to be honest, it's 'Future Boy Conan' (未来少年コナン). I was still in high school at the time, but my life changed after watching it.

——In what way?

Shinobu: Up until then, I hadn't been consciously watching anime or reading manga, but since then, I've turned into an Anime Shounen.

——Were you influenced by anything besides 'Conan'?

Shinobu: After all, on the anime side, Yasuhiko Yoshikazu-san (安彦良和). So, 'Mobile Suit Gundam' (機動戦士ガンダム). And then there's 'Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro' (ルパン3世・カリオストロの城) by Miyazaki Hayao-san (宮崎駿), who also did 'Conan'. The elements of Miyazaki Hayao-san were a big influence on me.

——What do you like about Miyazaki-san?

Shinobu: Hm——mm, in a magazine, Ootsuka Yasuo-san (大塚康生) said something like 'he's different from us worldly-minded guys' when talking about Miyazaki-san, you see. Though, I don't remember the specifics. But to summarise it, us worldly-minded guys can't help but think lewd things whenever a boy and a girl are alone together. But Miyazaki-san has nothing like that in him. Lana continues to think honestly about Conan, and Conan continues to kindly protect Lana, you see.

——It's too offensive to the senses of us worldly-minded guys to imitate. However, in your doujinshi, you put Lana and Clarisse in some pretty bad situations.

Shinobu: On one hand, I'm a worldly-minded and lecherous guy, but on the other, I'm being brazen and defiant (smile). For me, drawing ero-manga is currently like masturbation, a way to relieve my pent-up frustrations. Basically, I was originally aiming to do shounen manga, so there's no way I can depict such things in that sort of place.

——Well, I guess that's true.

Shinobu: That's why I'm doing terrible things to my heart's content (smile).

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——Er—rr, I want to ask about your doujinshi.

Shinobu: About 'Nonki' (のんき)?

——Well, yeah.

Shinobu: I've forgotten a lot of the details. Let's see, I became an anime maniac after watching 'Conan', and then I went to Comiket with my friends. Then I saw some people my age creating doujinshi, and I realised something like that was going on, and we could make our own as well. Around that time, a book called 'Fanzine' (ファンジン) was being published by Tokuma Shoten.

——Yeah, the mook about doujinshi published by Sakuma Akira-san (さくまあきら).

Shinobu: Yeah, so it's Sakuma-san's book? In any case, I created 'Nonki' while looking at that. I guess I was a second year in high school.

——When it comes to 'Nonki', it has the image of being the representative doujinshi of the Lolicon Boom in the doujinshi world (Comiket World) around 1980.

Shinobu: No, that's not true. Honest. When we started, 'Cybele' (シベール) already had a long line of people as it floated high above in the clouds... After all, 'Nonki' was a late, late, latecomer. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

——However, I believe it can be said you appeared from the doujinshi world's Lolicon Boom.

Shinobu: I guess so... I don't remember much, it was so long ago. It's true I was influence by I.N.U.-san (いぬねこうさぎざえもん) from 'Cybele' and Senno Knife-san (千之ナイフ) from 'Ningyouhime' (人形姫), but you see, 'Nonki' is...... Though I'm stating the obvious, the direction was different, and...

——Will you be continuing 'Nonki' in the future?

Shinobu: I still don't know, but my hope is to stop after one more issue. After all, 'Nonki' was a big thing for me, since I was doing most of it myself. Well, I guess you could say I've gotten tired of it. From now on, I would like to participate in doujinshi as a simple artist.


Other than that, ero-manga was nothing more than a hobby for him, it has been decided he'll be serialised in 'Monthly Shounen Jump' (月刊少年ジャンプ) and 'Monthly Shounen Champion' (月刊少年チャンピオン); as it turns out, shounen manga is his sweetheart. Indeed, when you look over his manuscript (as he would also say), unlike his ero-manga, he didn't cut any corners at all. You can really feel the seriousness he really wants to compete in this direction. He'll also be serialising in Sun Publishing's 'Zipper' magazine every other month, and will be focusing on shounen magazines from now on. Good luck!

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Sakuma Akira's magazine 'Fanzine' (I'm curious about the information contained within this magazine). Sakuma Akira is heavily associated with Toriyama Akira, so Sakuma Akira is the one who influenced 'Lolicon Maker', also known as 'Nonki'. Many creators are tied together by delicate threads.

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The Remnants of that 'Ume Pro'
Gotou Kasumi

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The editorial department thought Gotou-sensei would eventually take over 'Burikko', but in his first appearance, he quickly took 1st in the enquête...


Of the three magazines said to be the three branches of third-rate ero-gekiga, the last to remain, 'Daikairaku' (大快楽), was forced to cease publication due to its publisher going bankrupt fall of last year. Winter has once again come for ero-gekiga. Gotou Kasumi, an artist 'Burikko' is proud to introduce, is actually a new mangaka who made his debut at the tail end of the 'Daikairaku' period. The well-received 'Migratory Anticyclone' (移動性高気圧), if Lemonsha hadn't gone bankrupt, was a work that should've been published in 'Daikairaku' magazine. As soon as he first appeared in the previous issue, he received overwhelming support from readers and rose to first in the enquête, which was surprising, so here's an interview with Gotou-sensei, who has returned to the front lines from a six month break...


——Let's see, did you originally aspire to be a mangaka?

Kasumi: Yeah, there was something like a mobile manga school in 'Bessatsu Margaret' (別冊マーガレット) and 'Hana to Yume' (花とゆめ).

——Ahh, so Suzuki Mitsuaki's (鈴木光明) Crescent Moon Association (三日月会) was involved...

Kasumi: That's right. I was showing my face there.

——That was an institution that really trained orthodox mangaka. Wada Shinji (和田慎二) and Yamada Mineko (山田ミネコ), among others...

Kasumi: It's major (smile). In my period, I was with Sakai Miwa-san (酒井美羽).

——There weren't many men, right?

Kasumi: No, there were about 5 or 6 there.

——Did you publish anything there?

Kasumi: Well, before that, I had sent 5~6 school stories to 'Shounen Jump'.

——The result?

Kasumi: If you don't win the Newcomer Award in a shounen magazine, they won't say anything (smile). After that, I was in C-class when I published in 'Bessatsu Margaret'. Anyone can join (smile). At that time, it was a short-short-style SF work, and I was told the 'style was too different', which was no good...

——Were you involved in 'Ume Pro' (うめぷろ) around that time?

Kasumi: Hie~~, you're touching upon an old wound (smile).


For readers not in the know, I shall explain. Back when 'OUT' was still a magazine written as 'out', he appeared in the magazine with skills that were clearly below that of an amateur, and Ume Productions was a phantasmic mangaka group who managed to half-forcibly attract the support of its readers. Here, by 'forced', I mean a situation where in 'out' back then, except for Ume Pro, the only manga serialised was that (by 'that', I mean only) Itahashi SYUFO's (板橋しゅうほう) 'Pale Cocoon' (ペイルココーン), so readers had no choice but to 'support' one of the two... So, that concludes our Ume Pro story——.


Kasumi: What is there to talk about (smile)? That was a production created by a sempai at Nihon University called Umeda-san (ウメダ), and I was his assistant. I was in charge of the backgrounds.

——There were backgrounds in Ume Pro manga (smile)?

Kasumi: Nope. That's why I was able to call myself the chief-assistant.

——Back then, 'out' was radical (smile). Tell us a little more about the state of Ume Pro.

Kasumi: There were 3 members in total, and the other member was my younger brother (smile). Also, a number of people were helping out. Our representative, Umeda-san, graduated and chose the path of a respectable occupation, so we disbanded.

——Speaking of Ume Pro, do you recall your activities in 'Tokyo 12 Channel Special' (東京12チャンネル特集) (1977 'out' November issue)——?

Kasumi: A lot happened in that issue. We even drew a tentative SF manga called 'Fashionable Invisible Man' (流行性透明人間)...

——After that, you did stuff like 'Cloud Carpet' (雲のじゅうたん)?

Kasumi: Umeda-san did that alone, I wasn't responsible for it (smile). What I did was a parody of 'World Cooking Show' (世界の料理ショー), or something like that. (Refer to Cut)

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Ume Pro Period Work 'World Cooking Show' ('out')


——Afterwards, well, a lot of things happened and you made your debut in 'Daikairaku', but what was the progress around then...?

Kasumi: Well, I knew someone involved at their editorial department. So, when I asked 'please let me draw...', and they said 'if there's a hole (if someone misses their manuscript), we'll use it', so I gave them a stock work. Then a hole safely opened up in a certain sensei's manuscript, so I made my debut. At that time, I was already working as a salaryman. Well, in the end, my plan to debut in a normal way went awry. As you would expect, I was unable to report to Suzuki Mitsuaki-Sensei (smile).

——You being the only minor artist among Suzuki's students (smile)?

Kasumi: I'm sorry (smile).

——What was the reaction?

Kasumi: I received around 3 fan letters a month. Most of them were fans in high school.

——Guys?

Kasumi: Yes (smile).

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'Atorakuhima' (後楽暇), the newsletter of Nihon University's Faculty of Agriculture and Veterinary Medicine. Gotou-Sensei also participated. Interesting Mention of this by Taniguchi Kei (Twitter)


——Were you conscious of... Lolicon?

Kasumi: Only in my debut work. Afterwards—well, I didn't worry so much about the details.

——Though there were many Youth stuff.

Kasumi: I just can't think of anything else (smile).

——Which artists influenced you?

Kasumi: Sakai Miwa-san (酒井美羽).

——Does Miwa-san know about Gotou-Sensei's work?

Kasumi: She knows. I sent her my book (smile).

——What does your wife say looking at your manga, Sensei...? (Note: Sensei has been a newlywed for 3 months.)

Kasumi: Nothing in particular—. She's known about that since before. Well, I was more anxious and told her, 'girls shouldn't be looking at stuff like this' (smile). Well, I'm thinking of gradually teaching her my job to turn her into my assistant.

——Lastly, I would like to ask you about your future prospects.

Kasumi: In any case, I would like to continue working steadily as a salaryman.

——Thank you very much.


That's why Gotou's work suddenly took the top spot in 'Burikko'... When I heard Gotou-Sensei was a student of Suzuki Mitsuaki, the tiger's den* of the shoujo manga world, it all made sense. The know-how of creating works for the sake of 'being read' by the readers has been drilled into him. Meaning, Gotou-Sensei has mastered the methodology of a 'major'. At the same time, it's also a plus his shoujo manga-style touch brightens the tone of his works. Unlike the traditional dark=minor ero-gekiga, Gotou's works are a bright and major ero. Bright major ero-gekiga is also the thesis of 'Burikko'.
※Tiger's Den (虎の穴; toranoana) means a place for rigorous training.

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Migratory Anticyclone by Gotou_Kasumi

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Gotou Kasumi Reacting to Being 1st (above Fujiwara Kamui in the Reader's Ranking (Source):
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Post New Wave
Fujiwara Kamui

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A promising newcomer to 'Burikko', alongside Gotou Kasumi-Sensei, is Fujiwara Kamui-Sensei. In addition to 'Petit Apple Pie' (プチアップル♥パイ) (Tokuma Shoten), there's also rumours of his developments in 'Action' (アクション)...


After the hollow word called New Wave was overused and abused, 'Bishoujo Manga', a genre that should've been far and away from 'New Wave' is a 'New Wave-ish thing'——that is Fujiwara Kamui. Just as the artists, who were once called 'New Wave', are now part of the majors, Fujiwara Kamui will likely climb the ladder in time. But that doesn't necessarily mean he'll follow the path of 'New Wave' artists being tamed by the majors. What separates him from 'New Wave'——that will probably become his weapon——.

His high school was a specialist school of the arts. Towards the end of high school, a magazine called 'Cosmo Comic' (COSMOコミック) was launched and he submitted a work. He was running a doujinshi called 'AngAng' with Nishiaki Gurin-san (西秋ぐりん) and Nankin-san (なんきん), and he decided upon a serial with that as the trigger, but the issue in which his serialisation was supposed to begin, the magazine collapsed, so it never saw the light of day.



——What sort of relationship do you share with Nishiaki Gurin and Nankin?

Kamui: They were sempai at my high school's manga research club. And the founder is Akimoto Osamu-san (秋本治)...

——Afterwards, you enrolled at the Kuwasawa Design Institute, but it was around that time you were chosen for the 'Shounen Jump' Tezuka Prize, right?

Kamui: Maybe during my 2nd year... I received the news on New Year's Day, so it was before my 2nd year. I started a design group with my friends called Image VOX, and sent the works I drew there. Although it was a fairly heavy work that dealt with Korean issues, it was selected as an honourable mention. I didn't originally have any intention of drawing that sort of thing, so I created all sorts of stories, but they didn't go over well with the Editor-san... Hmm (smile).

——Did they discuss why they didn't want you to draw those stories?

Kamui: Yeah, it sounded like they wanted me to draw the other side, but things got complicated at the story stage... They were looking at me with the image of the work I submitted, so when I showed them the works I drew previously, they went 'ehh'... I brought a work that was supposed to be for 'Cosmo...' to them, but it didn't meet their demands...

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THE END OF THE GAME (©Culotte DX)


——Afterwards, it sounded like you were also touched by some vending machine editor, right?

Kamui: An acquaintance that was a member of Image VOX was working at their publishing company, so he helped me get connected. Three members were assigned to run the magazine, so I drew manga there.

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Jutai Kokuchi (受胎酷知) (©'Shoujo Gekisha' [少女激写]) Reprinted in 'C・B' 11-12 Issue (CB=Comic Box)


——That was 'Jutai Kokuchi' that was reprinted in the November and December issues of 'Comic Box' (こみつくぼっくす), right?

Kamui: That's right. They edited about five of those vending machine books, and in them, I drew several short stories that were 4~7 pages long.

——At that time, you already graduated from Takakuwa...?

Kamui: Yeah, more or less. Well, it's almost like I dropped out of school.

——Afterwards, you stopped working on manga for a while.

Kamui: Yeah, I had a blank period for a while, and then an acquaintance from my vending machine days created a magazine called 'Manga Takarajima' (マンガ宝島), and I got a call from them. From there, I gradually...

——It feels like that's how you arrived at where you are currently (smile).

Kamui: Yes (smile).

——What kind of group was Image VOX formed during your days at Kuwasawa?

Kamui: We were like a group of freelancers, and although we didn't make any money, we did concert projects and the like. That includes making the posters and tickets.

——What sort of concerts?

Kamui: The biggest one was an event called 'The Pulse of Asia' (アジアの鼓動) we did about four years ago, which was a concert that brought together four bands, including Panta (パンタ) and Hakuryuu (白竜)... We created jackets for minor bands... and that was pretty much it.

——Lastly, I would like to talk about your future prospects.

Kamui: I've been approached by 'Action', and I'm going to show them my Name... If that passes, then...

——Is it SF or what?

Kamui: At first, the person on the other side was hesitant, and said something like SF would be fine. Well, since I also understood (smile), I asked him if he liked the idea of a boxing manga, and he looked relieved. For now, I'll be doing my best.

——Then it's a rather normal work...

Kamui: Yeah, normal to the bitter end (smile).


If all goes well, Fujiwara-Sensei's boxing manga will likely be available in 'Bessatsu Action' (別冊アクション) magazine around this summer. Please look forward to finding out how 'normal' this work actually is.

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Planet Whose Name is Hope (希望という名の惑星) (©'Gekiga Deka Melon' [劇画デカメロン])


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Bishoujo Manga 3rd Generation Who's Who


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Anime-Lover!
Subeta Kumi (術田久美)

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▲Birthday Night (ばーすでいないと) (©Tokuma Shoten 'Apple Pie' [アップルパイ])



Like Shirakura Yumi (白倉由美), she was a 'high schooler' until recently. She successfully graduated from school this spring and is currently studying art.

When she was in school, she published manga with a cute touch in doujinshi and the like, and became known for her cuts in 'Fusion Product' (ふゅーじょんぷろだくと) (Currently 'Comic Box' [こみっく・ぼっくす]). Her felt-tip pen-touch cuts have an easy-going feel reminiscent of Fukuyama Keiko (ふくやまけいこ), and her cuteness has captured the hearts of her boy fans.

Her first foray into a commercial magazine is 'Spring Nekomimi' (春猫茸) (Tokuma Shoten 'Bishoujo Manga Best Collection' [美少女まんがベスト集成] ❶). Moreover, this is a reprint from 'Manga no Techou' (漫画の手帖), and her debut work is 'Birthday Night' (ばーすでいないと) (Tokuma Shoten 'Bishoujo Manga Best Collection ❸: Petit Apple Pie' [美少女まんがべスト集成❸・プチアップル♥パイ]).

As for her future activities... She has started serialising illustrated essays in 'Comic Box' (こみっくぼっくす) and 'Comic Box Junior' (こみっくぼっくすジュニア). She also seems to be drawing a 4-page manga for 'Petit Apple Pie' (プチアップル♥パイ) that'll be released on August 5th. There's more. She's also received a request from a new manga magazine that's currently in development by the editorial department of 'SF-ism' (SFイズム), so it looks like Kumi-chan's manga and illustrations will be seen everywhere from summer to autumn.

Recently, new mangaka with an anime-style have been attracting a lot of attention, so we're looking forward to what sort of work Kumi-chan, an artist representing that style, will show us.

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Bishojo (Virgin) Mangaka
Hasama Minoru (羽佐間みのる)

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▲'Nekomimi Age' (猫耳時代) (Self Publishing 'Manga Burikko' [漫画ブリッコ])


Shirakura Yumi-chan asked, 'Is Hasama Minoru-san really a virgin'?'. This sort of question is truly troublesome. But it's true she's a 'beauty'. Her being drawn in by Gunyusha's Ogata Seinen (オガタセーネン) and asked to be a model... is also true. I believe it's certainly true she was quite anxious and went out to buy new panties. If I tell any more truths, I'll get slapped by the lady in question, so I'll stop. (Ah, her having a fierce personality... is also true.)

So, let's move on to her profile; her debut work is 'Wakareuta' (わかれうた) in 'Culotte DX' (キュロットDX) (Self Publishing). Somehow, this was a gekiga. From the beginning, in the bed scene, when the man finally rests his body on top of the woman, he says with a calm face, 'I remember...', which somehow felt very real. The 'Gotou Kazumi' (ごとうかずみ), who drew occasional cuts in this 'DX' is also Hasama-sensei. (A completely different person from Gotou Kasumi [五藤加純].) Afterwards, she drew cuts for 'Animage' (アニメージュ) and 'Comic Box no Miku-chan' (こみっくぼっくすのみくちゃん) for 'Comic Box' (こみっくぼっくす), and other than that, she's been showing her face in various Lolicon-related projects. Recently, she's been drawing in the reader's corner of 'Shounen King' (少年キング) under the penname 'Tadano Kazumi' (ただのかずみ). In addition to her manga in 'Burikko', her yonkoma manga has appeared in 'Manga Laugh School' (まんが笑学校) (Sun Publishing).

This summer, she's planning to do a copybook work collection by herself. Please note that due to certain circumstances, this will be her last time appearing in 'Burikko' How disappointing (お).

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Ojama Communication Vol.1&2; Minoru had a realistic gekiga art-style, which she used in her manga in 'キュロットDX' but adopted this proto-puni art-style for Manga Burikko.

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Not Kagami Akira the Novelist
Kagami Akira (かがみ♫あきら)

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▲’Wish Upon a Star' (星に願いを) (©'Petit Apple Pie [プチアップル♡パイ])


In the case of Kagami Akira, who suddenly made his debut in 'Ryuu' (リュウ) (Tokuma Shoten), unlike recent Bishoujo manga-related artists, he doesn't have much previous experience in doujinshi. After all, this is a problem because he's suddenly appearing in front of those involved with a joke-like name such as 'Kagami Akira' (which is his real name), and meanwhile, he's competing with Hayasaka Miki-sensei (早坂未紀) for the top-spot in 'Petit Apple Pie' (プチアップルパイ). Not much is known about his past history, but for some reason right after his debut, he was an employee of Ishimori Pro (石森プロ), where he worked on phones and drew manga. Since then, he's continuing freelance activities in the form of a quasi-member of mecha designer Izubuchi Yukata's (出淵裕) Parallel Creation (パラレル・クリエーション). His mecha designer sense is outstanding, and he's participating as a mecha-designer for 'Seiunji' (星雲児) in 'Shounen Sunday' (少年サンデー). By the way, (though I'm letting the cat out of the bag) he's also providing mecha designs for the anime masterpiece Sunrise and Kodansha are currently preparing. (By the way, though 'Sunday' is paying for the materials in addition to his guarantee fee, the anime guys won't even cover his transportation expenses.)

Though his future activities are planned out, in addition to appearing as a semi-regular in 'Ryuu' and 'Petit Apple Pie', he's also been contacted by 'Special Issue Shounen Sunday' (増刊少年サンデー). After that, a certain company made him their main in a Lolicon manga magazine (yeah, another one's coming) created by Nagoya-based doujinshi artists to compete with 'Lemon People' (レモンピープル)... which is supposed to be a secret project, but from what this writer knows, it's not a secret at all. (つ)

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Stray Shoujo Mangaka
Nakata Aki (中田雅喜)

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▲'Pink Triangle' (桃色三角) (©'Culotte DX [キュロットDX])
※This has been reprinted in recent years (
Link)


In terms of her age, she's the same second generation (as Hayasaka Miki [早坂未紀] and Hino Youko [火野妖子]).

I believe many people know, but originally (even now), she's of an orthodox school that drew (and still draws) serious youth manga called 'Please Understand' (わかってください) in 'Comic Tom' (コミック・トム). Due to the person who edited 'Culotte DX' being an acquaintance of hers, she ended up drawing her masterpiece 'Pink Triangle'. When she did the first part of 'Pink Triangle', she had absolutely no knowledge about 'Lolicon', so she gathered material from several youth around her area and then wrote the story. Though her 'Pink Triangle' series insults masterpieces of the manga world in every part, the greatness of her parodies is that they poke fun at the deep layers of the original works, rather than their surfaces. For example, 'Hipponx' (ヒポンクス) is based on Yamagishi Ryouko's (山岸涼子) 'Sphinx' (スピンクス), and can be taken as an interpretation of 'Sphinx'. If you compare it to how Iwasaki Setsu (岩崎摂) uses anime characters to make tea with Burikko gags in 'OUT', you would be at an utter loss for words. Nakata's parody is a cynical critique of manga. Even in that one point alone, her 'Pink Triangle' series must be praised.

Though she's a member of that commercial doujinshi drawing group, due to her butting heads with a certain president, it seems she rarely shows her face in any projects related to the group. Naturally, she's excluded from the group's official manga magazine, which is unfortunate.

She's aiming to get herself published in a josei magazine in the second half of this year. Her naïve sensibility and solid talent may be unexpectedly suitable for josei manga. (か)

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Samples of the 'Hipponx' chapter from 'Pink Triangle' with a cameo appearance of Nina from Takemiya Keiko's 'perfect' Lolicon manga; Nakata Aki depicts Hirukogami Ken, Japan's first Otaku, as an enigmatic degenerate, not content with simply molesting or raping girls, but rather sitting on top of light poles and firing down at them with a hunting bow.

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Maiden's Diary Mangaka
Shirakura Yumi (白倉由美)

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Shirakura Yumi appears to be a normal girl at first glance. But in reality, she's an ordinary girl in the end. If what she draws is interesting, then that means the most interesting thing right now is an ordinary Nee-chan walking around town. That's the sort of time we live in.

Now then, Yumi-chan, who graduated from high school this spring, is currently working as an assistant at a design studio, studying art at the Tokyo Design Academy, and writing manuscripts for manga here and there; she's living a triple life with no time to breathe.

She meets people, learns at school, and all those little things seem to be days of wonderful encounters, full of discoveries for her, and she seems to be spending her days happily, even though she's grumbling things like 'I have no talent' or 'I don't have any energy lately'.

Her official debut was 'Piscean Lonely Cat' (魚座生まれのロンリーキャット) in 'Petit Apple Pie' (プチアップルパイ), but before that, the first work she penned was a strange work she called an Ootomo Katsuhiro-style (大友克洋) heroic fantasy shoujo manga, but due to her strong wish, it will likely never see the light of day. Other than that, she also did some cuts for 'Comic Box Jr' (コミックボックスJr).

She says that she's personally not a girly girl at all, and that all she can do is draw, but if she can see herself that well, then she'll reach her goal soon. Please do your best.

T/L Note: This mangaka later becomes Ootsuka Eiji's wife.

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Slightly Fashionable
Oki Yukao (沖由佳雄)


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As Azuma Hideo's assistant, Oki Yukao-san has also become famous as an Azuma manga character, but Oki-san has had a long association with Azuma works.

Yeah, he's old, eh? It's been a long time since his debut work, when he used to publish one-shot SF-ish works in Akita Shoten's monthly magazine 'Manga King' (漫画王). Since he was a passionate fan, he would send him letters even when he was living in the countryside, and went to Mukiryoku Pro (無気力プロ). The same time he graduated, he moved to Tokyo to enter a design school and then started working at Mukiryoku Pro, and before he knew it, he was his assistant. However, even though I say he's old, M-san is older than me, so there are many people older than me who have given up.

It was an incredibly long period of time since he became an assistant or started drawing what he wanted to draw, and started doing doujinshi activities. Eventually, someone at 'Animec' (アニメック) saw his doujinshi and requested a manuscript, which led to his debut being an 8-page work called 'President Caprice' (プレジデント・カプリス). It's the 80s. For him, rather than a debut work, he had decided on the style of the work as a short story idea even before that and I believe he plans to continue doing things this way.

Albeit irregularly, Oki Yukao-san has been publishing his works in 'Animec' and 'Petit Apple Pie'. This year, he hopes to expand his stage even further.


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Former Cel Faddist
Kazuna Kei (計奈恵)

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He's not very well-known, but it seems Kazuna-san is still shallow in months and days since he started drawing manga.

Yeah, he was working as a salaryman. Very normal. At the time, he joined a certain Circle, and by coincidence, Takahashi Rumiko-san (高橋留美子), who was about to make her debut, happened to be in that Circle. Since at the time, she was drawing surreal SF gag manga, and seeing that, he decided to draw himself. Until then, his ambition was to be a children's story creator. No, until then, he had never drawn or written anything, let alone a manga. Ah, he's not personally acquainted with Takahashi-san. So, he started studying art rather than manga, from the sketching stage.

After that, he became a regular at 'Manga Garou' (マンガ画廊) in Ekoda, and that's where he became acquainted with Konoma Waho-san (このま和歩). People often say his art looks similar to Konoma-san's, but it makes sense he's similar; that guy's influence is quite strong in him. Also, Azuma-sensei's influence is quite strong in him as well. I was a fan, after all.

Well then, he was approached by 'Animec', who saw the doujinshi he was working on with Konoma Waho-san and Oki Yukao-san, and made his debut in 1980 with the 8-page work 'Compact Fairy Tale' (ちまちまフェアリテイル).

Currently, he's being published in a shounen magazine. Even now, he's fixing his Name. Please look forward to it.

This year will be a competitive year for Kazuna-san. I asked Kazuna-san to submit a work for next month's issue of our magazine. Please look forward to it.


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Nice Seinen Mangaka
Senno Knife (千之ナイフ)

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Anyone who meets him for the first time will probably be confused by the impression that is far removed from the rolling-drum-beat image of his penname 'Senno Knife'. That's right. He's actually a really cheerful, talkative, friendly, and bright young man.

Needless to say, amidst the Lolicon Boom that has swept the doujinshi world, he's a member of 'Ningyouhime' (人形姫), who seems to have played a banneret role in that area. Among them, he publishes a number of dark and bewitching, but inorganic, doll-lover manga (?), which caught the eye of a seinen ero-gekiga editor who was looking for promising new blood at the time. In 1980, he made his debut in the first issue of 'Lemon People' (レモンピープル) with 'Snow Princess' (雪姫). Since then, he has continued to publish works in the same vein in magazines such as 'Hey! Buddy'.

However, it was pure coincidence he drew such a dark image work for 'Ningyouhime' in the first place, it was definitely not something he planned from the beginning. People shouldn't be judged by their appearance. Naturally, there's a mountain of things he wants to draw.

Gag manga, shounen sports healthy manga, occult manga, SF manga, etc... If you were to list them, there would be no end. From now on, he wants to challenge all sorts of genres.

Commercial magazines are a selfish lot; once they have an image in mind, they'll only request manuscripts based on that preconception. From now on, I would by all means like to read his works overflowing with a fresh power that rapidly betrays such a boring image.


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Manga Burikko 1983/08 Vol.11
Photograph-related Letters:



●I like the cover of 'Manga Burikko'! I like the photos of girls! I like the special features! I like the artists being serialised! I like the opinions of the editors! I like 'Otaku'! I like girls! I like girls between the ages of 10~13 years old! My midterm exam is going to be starting today. I wonder if it's okay for me to write something like this?

Tokyo Segawa Kei (瀬川圭)



I also did something similar. Don't worry, I hope you become as good as the editor.


●Currently, the loss and gain is 50-50. If it gets so harsh that photos and pseudo-criminal manga are gonna be banned, I think I'm going to pray every morning.

Aichi Ken Nagano Yasuhisa
(長野泰久)


Anything but the police, I don't want to go. Please forgive me.


●I have a 2D-Complex. So, I don't particularly feel anything surrounding the photos at the beginning of the magazine. For that reason, I would like you to stop showing all the photos in ❶, and only use manga. To be honest, I like this magazine so much, I thought I'd get a subscription through my university's co-op, but with all those photos, it's a bit difficult to do so. I'll get a subscription when they're gone. Until then, I can't say I'll be responsible and buy your magazine on a regular basis.

Hokkaido Kawaguchi Toshihiko (川口俊彦)



The photo pages won't go away due to absolute orders from the upper management of the company. So, while it's regrettable, please buy a copy whenever you feel like it.


●I don't wanna see brats having sex. Girls aren't like that. So, let's make this into a healthy Lolicon magazine by increasing the number of photo pages like 'The Dream I had Sometime' (いつか見た夢)

From Smi



Even if you have that point of view, I believe that's fine.


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Comments Regarding Contents of Photographs in the 1983 May~October issues of Manga Burikko:

@marumixi (2021/12/20)

大昔だけれど、「漫画ブリッコ」に黒塗りしているけれど、幼女がxxxxxさせられている写真が載っていた頃を知っている世代としては、暮らしづらい世の中になったものだと思ってしまいます。(^^

@HijonoP (2013/4/1)
漫画ブリッコの海外写真集紹介記事にくぱぁな写真が有ったような

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Translated the above letters to give further context to the story Patrick Galbraith told about the 'readers' asking for the photographs to be removed to make room for more manga. This story originated from Ootsuka Eiji, and Kera's interview with Ogata Katsuhiro didn't touch upon it (I would've liked another source to corroborate it).

Kera pointed out due to reader feedback, Lemon People also discontinued their Lemon Gal columns in 1982, which—according to Yonezawa Yoshihiro—bucked the ero-gekiga nude gravure trend by mainly featuring young women dressed in normal street clothes. Unlike Manga Burikko's photos, which are illegal and described as being far worse in the above tweets than Galbraith's description of them, Lemon People's photos fall more in line with Takatori Ei's description of 2D-Complex. ("It's a much softer boom, in fact, it refers to the proclivity towards loving Bishoujo found in photographs and manga, that has come to be called a '2D Complex', rather than real girls.") Until very recently, I've always associated 2D-complex with a cartoon fetish. But reading Takatori Ei's article has squashed that. I've likely been misunderstanding people for a long time based on what they've meant by 2D-complex. Nevertheless, I still want to interpret the Hokkaido letter as someone having a cartoon fetish even if the one by Smi seems more in-line with Takatori Ei's definition.


This is very important to read and understand (including the post engagment when you click '...'):

I'm not going to talk about the above right now since I don't know enough at this moment.
In any case, this is Ootsuka Eiji's description regarding the 'nude gravure' in 'Spiritual History of Otaku' (just the specific section since this 450 page book hurts my brain whenever I try to scan through it). The problem with Ootsuka is that he's like Cloud from Final Fantasy Ⅶ, who attributed all of Zack's achievements to his own. Ootsuka talks about his achievements and doesn't talk about Ogata, so there's some drama where he made it sound like Shirakura Yumi (Ootsuka Eiji's wife), and two other artists, were scouted by Ootsuka. But the reality is that it was through Ogata Katsuhiro's connections that they drew for Manga Burikko, so I would've liked it if this story that Jeko likes repeating, and another user on this board asked about earlier in this thread, had more than just Ootsuka Eiji's words behind it.


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Source:『「おたく」の精神史 一九八〇年代論』 Chapter 1 Part 3 (Sex as a Symbol)

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By Ootsuka Eiji (大塚英志)


The Nude Gravure Problem



Here, I would like to write a little more about the changes surrounding sexual expression (or the marketability of sexual expression) I felt at the time, somewhat based on my memories of those days.

Now then, I have already mentioned 'Manga Burikko', before I took over, was at the tail end of the ero-gekiga boom of the late 1970s. The cover illustration was supposed to be bishoujo art modelled after an idol talent by Minami Shinbou (南伸坊). I don't recall who the previous editor was, but the cover by Minami Shinbou gave off a 'Garo'-like smell (or perhaps a 'citation' from the cover of 'Young Jump' before it went on hiatus), but for a magazine where realistic eros has been replaced by symbolic eros, it was quite a symbolic choice for a cover. Since it was an ero-gekiga magazine, there were nude gravure at the beginning of the issue. This was an editorial theory, not only for ero-gekiga magazines, but for seinen comics below 'second-rate'. They were supposed to be photos of actresses from pink films or models from ero-specialty magazines.

'Manga Burikko' was supposed to have been created as a 'Lolicon Manga Magazine', but it exceptionally and faithfully inherited the former line. The cover was by Taniguchi Kei (谷口敬), who was from the transitional generation between ero-gekiga and Lolicon manga, and though it used artists who were more 'Lolicon manga' among ero-gekiga types—such as Nakajima Fumio (中島史雄), Nishie Hiroaki (西江ひろあき), and Hino Youko (火野妖子)—its gekiga tone was strong. Meanwhile, faithful to the theory of ero-gekiga magazines, nude photos of young girls, and the occasional nudes of Kawai Kazumi (可愛かずみ), were published in the beginning pages. For these photos, the publisher had a stock of positives they purchased from photographers, including their film and portrait rights, and published them as part of the production process.

However, as I mentioned earlier, 'Manga Burikko', during this period, didn't sell at all. Then, starting with the November 1983 issue, the cover was replaced with an illustration reminisce of shoujo manga, and the nude gravure were removed at the same time. Since it was a Lolicon magazine, the nude gravure of Shoujo, and women who compromised as much as possible to look like Shoujo (hence why I went and used the ample positives of Kawai Kazumi), were under the guidance of a veteran editor of Self Publishing (セルフ出版) during this period, who served as their watchdog, and we used various means and methods, but there was almost no response at all. Rather, there were more than a few letters asking us not to publish the nude photos.

That's why I boldly took action after the renewal when I removed the nude gravure. This was a reckless choice for an ero-magazine. Meaning, I removed the real body from the medium of pornography.

Meanwhile, I abandoned ambiguous policies, such as gekiga that leans towards Lolicon manga, and removed gekiga-type artists to the best of my ability at the same time. In that sense, this was a much more profound choice than 'banishing' the 'New Human' Nakamori Akio (中森明夫).

Many ero-gekigaka back then created their art by tracing or copying gravure photos from vinyl books and ero-magazines. Of course, there were many artists who did not do this, but Ishii Takashi's (石井隆) technique of composing his backgrounds with copies of his own photographs and realistically depicting women's bodies based on photographs was an iconic technique among ero-gekiga. Of course, whether or not art was drawn using photographs as a reference is only a secondary problem. The problem is whether the sender and receiver are aware the female sexual body expressed in gekiga art is a substitute for the real body. To put it in a vulgar way, their primary desire is indulging in sexual intercourse with a real, living woman; therefore, gekiga expression also presented something that evokes the real body and the desire towards it. That is the expression of ero-gekiga. In other words, in ero-gekiga, bodies are always depicted in art to be openly desired and compared with real bodies.

T/L Note: This is part of a chapter called 'Sex as a Symbol' and despite Ootsuka Eiji liking this term, and many academics jumping on board with it, when asked if he thought Tezuka Osamu's art are 'symbols' in the long interview, Azuma Hideo disagreed.
M: Tezuka Osamu-sensei explained that his drawings were more like symbols or hieroglyphs than paintings, but what do you think, Azuma-sensei?

Azuma: I don't think so. In Tezuka-sensei's case, I believe his were in the position of a story manga. The themes were also epic. That's why the art existed for the story. I'm all about the characters, so for example, if I wanted to draw a cute girl, I would think about a story around her. So I don't think of it as a symbol. Especially when it comes to drawing females, he drew them in a way that makes one feel lustful.

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Interesting Comments Related to Manga Burikko:

@ishikawasei1 (2022/12/11)

「オタク」と「ロリコン」に関係はあるのか無いのか。
そんなこと、この一言で決着がつくでしょう。

「オタク」の発祥であるとされる、誰だったかが漫画ブリッコに書いた文章の、『街にはおたくがいっぱい』というタイトルは、近藤昌良写真集『街には女の子たちがいっぱい』のパロディであること。

@ogwata (2012/10/6)
自分の蔵書や編集資料その他を、米澤記念図書館がまとめて引き取ってくれることになった。それでその整理をしていたら、漫画ブリッコの忘年会やら、自販機本を読み耽る岡崎さんやらの写真が発掘されて、なんとも言えない気分になった。もう30年も前のことなのだね……。

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Nakamori Akio's infamous Otaku Research column begins with its first part being subtitled 'There's a Lot of Otaku in the City' (街にはおたくがいっぱい), which is a parody of the photobook 'There's a Lot of Girls in the City' (街には女の子たちがいっぱい) edited by Kawamoto Kouji. I'm not going to repost the cover or samples of the photobook in this thread; you can google search for information on it yourself.

In any case, the concept of manga-style photobooks has been used as a theme very early in Manga Burikko's renewal, starting with Taniguchi Kei doing the first one followed by Hasama Minoru's 'Minoru the Cat'. The third of these is by Hayasaka Miki, which was originally published in the 1983 August (Vol.11) issues of Manga Burikko, but compiled in 'Peppermint Gallery', which is the easier and cheaper way to obtain and view this stuff. The story by Hayasaka Miki is considered to be the primordial origin of Moe, or more like a coincidence and a testament the word itself has always had something 'special' about it before it became a meme in the 1990s. I'm kinda surprised Takanezawa Moe (高根沢萌) isn't mentioned online anywhere aside from Patrick Galbraith's books; even in Japanese, there's few results for her and her older sisters, but she appears on the cover of Ootsuka Eiji's 'Spiritual History of Otaku' and the stories about her older sister was compiled into a manga.


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Ladies Ann (レディス♥アン) by Hayasaka Miki

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Source:『ペパーミント★ギャラリー』 1984/5


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Hosting it here since I'm probably leeching way too much of the site owner's bandwidth hosting too many high-resolution images. Please read the full 8-page manga, and check out Peppermint Gallery (Sad Panda) to see Hasama Minoru's contribution. The difference between hers and Taniguchi and Hayasaka reminds me of the Mr.Dandy article earlier in this thread where male Lolicon fans are seeking purity (and virgins) in their fully clothed Lolita, but female Lolicon fans want to become the Lolita in real life and have all sorts of lewd and sexual things happen to them (this is sort of where Lolita Fashion originated, though I noticed modern English fans of this fashion are doing mental gymnastics to dissociate it with something they've been brainwashed to disapprove of).

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Moe is the model for Asami Ai (麻見愛) from 'How About Ai♥Milk Tea?' (愛♡ミティはいかが?) I'm serialising in 'Yume to Hana' (夢とはな).

Kazuna Kei shared some stories regarding the crazier interactions related to Cybele in the letters he received.

Kazuna Kei (計奈恵):
A long time ago, when I was drawing for Cybele, I received a letter saying, "There must be a (real) model Shoujo." It made me realise there were normal people out there who have zero 'artistic sense to create through imagination power'. No doubt the people still trying to regulate manga and anime, and directly link them to sexual crimes, also lack that sort of imagination power. That guy had an uncensored book from overseas, so he offered to 'trade it for a photo of the girl who was a model for Cybele' (;^^;) He certainly had a wild imagination that goes above and beyond us 'artists' (laughs). But guys like that should contact the hospital first.

Shiro (しろ): I won't tell anyone, so please secretly share the photo of the model with just me.

Kazuna Kei (計奈恵): It's a secret to everybody (laughs).
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Birthday Story (2018 February):

Kazuna Kei:
Today, February 6th, is Azuma Hideo's holy birthday, but it's also Master Konoma Waho's birthday today, you know? Today's Lolicon-Sensei Holy Birthday \(*´▽`*)/

Kazuna Kei: Thats right~(* ̄▽ ̄)ノ~~ Not just Azuma-Sensei, but I'm also worried about all my acquaintances in the hospital. I'm worried about the warmth-unwelcomed-body-of-cold-air, but Azuma-Sensei is from Hokkaido, so I hope he makes it through (*゚▽゚)b

Kosugi Aya (小杉あや): Eeh—! I see. Congratulations!!

Kazuna: I'll pass on your words (^^)> Since it's on the same day as Azuma-Sensei's birthday, Azuma-Sensei's fans are all excited, so it'll be fine even if they forget Master Konoma's birthday~♪

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Otaku : fils de l'empire du virtuel (French):

There's a much shorter cut of the 169 minute documentary with English audio (which excludes both a segment with Miyamoto Shigeru from Nintendo and Akai Takami from Gainax, and condensed many other parts for a shorter run time giving it a slightly hyper-active and nonsensical feeling) (Internet Archive English Version). In any case, this has a young Nakamori Akio in the flesh, so I would recommend watching this documentary by Jean-Jacques Beineix, especially the parts about the 'figurines' and Comiket (Lolicon in a nutshell). I'm still going through 'M Generation', which is a book where Ootsuka Eiji and Nakamori Akio talk about Miyazaki Tsutomu, largely because out of all the people involved, I had the wrong impression about Nakamori Akio due to the way he's presented and interpreted by guys like Matt Alt and Patrick Galbraith (the above French documentary does a good job of humanising him, and at 2:23:00, he talks about how the mass media went on a witchhunt using his word, which is why he accepted doing an interview with the French director; wish I saw this documentary much earlier in my life). I want to translate his transcribed words to present him as a real person, but I'm still scouting which chapter would be best, since there's no way I'm going to translate an entire book.

Nakamori Akio (1993~) Godfather of Otaku:

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Thanks for reading~! While I could've focused on Endou's Tokyo Otona and Nakamori's Otaku columns, I feel like people have already translated and analysed the latter. The longest letter related to Otaku is transcribed and archived on Manga Burikko's website (along with the Otaku Research columns). Right now, I'm busy dealing with a lot of real life issues, and I think I'm going to be tackling a much longer fan or official translation project for a recently released game whose development I've been following for about a decade (still need to finish the game and decide if the game itself is as interesting in its writing and themes as I hoped; the prologue took an hour before I could save). I want to do a translation for Morino Usagi's interview and some stuff related to him in Manga Burikko along with some other interviews (including one with Mita Ryuusuke, who is one of my top 5 artists). Kera also sent me transcripts of a weird interview with Ogata Katsuhiro (between both of his pennames) he found in a magazine that isn't mentioned anywhere online where he talks about the state of Lolicon Manga back in the mid-1980s (I don't even have the cover for it..); I don't know how Kera found this thing, but it's going to be the most obscure thing in this thread outside of the limited-print doujinshi.
 
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This time I don't think Im gonna comment on every single part of the post as I dont have te time for it. Work has been heavy these days:konata_cry:

-Transalating Christian Hernandez

I assume the study you linked and the other one you mentioned are already translated, if not then I guess I can start with those ones. If not I can take a look around and see what I find. In any case I cant really make any promise on how long it could take me, I sadly find myself with little free time and energy.

-nuclear power

I mean I hope you werent trying to change my opinion on it cause thats not really gonna work, hell Im glad Tezuka managed to change so many minds about it. Sure fukushima happened. So did the bp oil spill, the many many tremors from fracking and the constant pollution of the air from the many coal plants. Sure in a perfect world we would be employing a green and low risk method of energy. But as things stands they are not viable for the current needs of the population. Well this is definetly off topic and lets be honest I am not changing your opinion on it ans you are not changing mine. So lets just drop it.

-burikko

Interesting, I never knew barbie was not popular in Japan but yeah given that she doesnt exactly look too japanese it makes sense thst they change it a bit.

Honestly the childish dumb girl schtick is pretty popular in the west too I mean besides the petite body, thats basically what a bimbo is.

I have noticed that lately the west seem to also have changed their preference for a more "buriko" style. I mean think of it pubic and facial hair is not as prevalent as it was once. Personality wise too as people seem to like a more "childish" personality.

-manga burikko interviews

Noy much to say here interesting to see more of thr history of manga, shoujo and lolicon.

Also its true that many ero mangakas do transition into shonen or other non ero type works or sometimes both.

That pink triangle book seems interesting. Also Im not sure if the author likes or dislikes hirukogami ken:shinobu_kaka:

-tweet by dividedself_94

Ok so I am not sure if I quite get what they are saying.

I get they are calling out otaku that denouce ai art, particularly lolicon and fear this could easily scalate into banning lolicon art.

What I do not get is them relating it to the outlawing of pictures of pornographic nature involving minors. I mean I think that may hurt their argument a bit. I dont know am I misunderstanding it?

-sex as a symbol

I think this one falls above my pay grade :shinobu_kaka:

I guess you can argue sex and lust as symbols in art but so much of it is up to interpretation and also how much does it elevate it by making them symbols. Idk I just know that I like cute and funny anime girls lol.

-moe

For sure given how a big part of the medium it has become it surprises me how little people know of its origins.

-french documentary

Ok so I admit I havent been keeping up with the extra material but what is exaclty up with Nakamori Akio. And what was, or is, your imoression of him.

Anyways

Thanks for continuing to post and keeping the thread alive. And hopefully you manage to resolve any issues you may have. Do not feel pressured to write. If you have more important things to take care of. Take your time.:konata_thumb:
 
It's been a while. A lot of things happened, both good and (mostly) bad, since I uploaded the last translation in this thread.

For now, I'm going to mention one piece of bad news that is dire and needs to be addressed today, not tomorrow: Taniguchi Kei's Twitter (X) account got frozen, so all of the links in this thread to his account are gone—likely forever. According to this website (Link), there has been no real effort to archive Twitter as a whole, and the Library of Congress stopped their efforts to archive it privately in 2017, so true humans need to scour Twitter (X) and archive the accounts of important historical figures like Kazuna Kei and Kosugi Aya before it's too late, and their important words are also lost forever. Elon Musk says he wants to jokingly make anime catgirls into a reality, but he's absolutely not a fan of anime if he continues to allow his website to erase the accounts of the Japanese artists associated with the primordial days of anime catgirls.

I'm going to skip the good news about Kera's upcoming 2nd part of Suzumi-bune and his 2nd tribute doujin (both super important), and mention that Kera discovered my Hentai thread and translated some of it into Japanese (confirming 'original evil' is 100% correct; I was only 95% sure when I wrote it and didn't want to embarrass myself justifying it if it wasn't properly understood by a Japanese native), and Kera's translation blew up with over 30k views within a day on the Japanese internet. Apparently, Japanese internet users consider the western slang use of Hentai as a genre to be 'hate speech'; in response, one Japanese person living in Germany shared an account of how he was accosted by the police, who were asking him about 'Hentai'... Even Nagayama Kaoru (Erotic Comics in Japan: An Introduction to Eromanga) commented on it, and Ehoba shared a useful link because he's a genuinely good person. I'm hoping Kimi Rito didn't see the thread; otherwise there's a chance he would've seen you guys distributing his readily available and affordable book for free without his permission... He's doing important work with every single yen in his bank account (found out that Andoro Trio remaster earlier in this thread was apparently produced by Kimi Rito)... ... ...

Later, in September, Kimi Rito went on a rant regarding some horrible English article he read titled 'Hentai History', and how he wants the writers to do a proper investigation into why Hentai (slang) was created and spread in North America in the first place.
そもそも、HENTAIという言葉(スラング)を作ったのはあなた達だろう。その出典(なぜそういうスラングが欧米圏で広がったのか)ぐらいちゃんと調べろといいたい(^_^;) エロゲー、コミケ文化、BL系の歴史はかなり無視されているのもいただけないところ。出す前に査読させろw
Apparently, Kimi Rito thinks, along with the western HENTAI (slang), no one in the West is doing proper research into the history of eroge, Comiket culture, and BL. Though I feel eroge history is being archived comprehensively, so all the material to translate its history is readily available on Internet Archive.

I'm surprised he felt BL history hasn't been documented, though looking at the English BL entry on Wikipedia, it does appear there's a severe lacking in depth and quality. Since BL history is tied at the hip to Lolicon history, I decided to translate some Yaoi history from the following book Kera recommended to me...

'Doujin Manga Encyclopaedia' is a really good information source of doujinshi history and culture in 1992. It was also an absolute nightmare to obtain and translate. First when the deputy service failed to purchase it twice, so I had to keep trying until they succeeded (I only found out it failed the first time after a package arrived and the book was missing). Second when the ink had this watery sheen on the glossy pages that made it hard on my eyes to read, and a lot of the text was printed right next to the binding (if my scanner had Drivers for Win11, I would've strongly considered debinding and scanning it).

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Pleased to see Akaishizawa Takashi's 'Fairy's Heaven' in the book's introduction (Takashi's Homepage). Takashi currently follows me on Twitter (X) after he created a new account earlier this year; he's a figure that was present in catgirl (Peppermint Comic) and Lolicon history (he contributed to Oki Yukao's doujinshi).




Source: 『同人漫画大百科』 1992/10/15

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Cover Illustration Illustrated by Kouga Yun.

Table of Contents:

1) Interview: Kouga Yun
2) Introduction to Yaoi (Yonezawa Yoshihiro)
3) Interview: Morino Usagi
4) History of Doujinshi (Not Translated Yet)


Interview
Kouga Yun (高河ゆん) (Wiki)


Kouga Yun gained popularity during the explosive boom of Captain Tsubasa, and eventually pioneered a new genre known as Maouden (魔王伝). She has greatly influenced the doujinshi world, and the history of anime parodies cannot be discussed without mentioning her. We invited her to talk about her feelings towards doujinshi, looking back on her journey from when she first started drawing manga to her success as a professional.

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●First, what was the trigger that got you into manga...?

I believe it's perhaps my mother's blood, but I enjoyed drawing since I was little. So, I thought about wanting to work as an artist, but my mother was a dressmaker, so back then, the only job I knew that involved drawing was design, so I wanted to become a designer. Afterwards, around when I was an elementary fifth year student, I discovered these things called manga tankoubon, and began to read stuff like 'The Poe Clan' (ポーの一族).

●Speaking of which, Hagio Moto-san also aspired to be a designer. Apparently, she went to a fashion design school. I wonder if there's a connection... perhaps you were attracted to Hagio-san's work because of its fashion sense...

Looking back at it now, perhaps that's true... I was always fascinated by Hagio-san's works... Well, with those kind of feelings, I started reading Hagio-san's works and began to draw manga. When I entered middle school, I learned there was a profession called a mangaka, so I wanted to draw manga...

●Well, you could say you were at a very normal age, aiming to become a mangaka...

Well, that's what I thought at the time, but by the time I graduated from middle school, I was thinking about getting into a good high school to get into a good university, and going to Tanegashima to do space research (laughs)... So I thought I would give up my feelings of being a mangaka. Back then, I liked science and wanted to become a smart girl (laughs)... Well, I kept a distance from manga for a while, but during my second year of high school, a friend told me about something called doujinshi, and... One day, my friend was into Braiger* and asked, "Have you seen Braiger?". "Yeah, I've seen it.". "Well then, I'm going to be doing Braiger doujinshi, so you wanna draw?" ... That kind of conversation... So I started drawing manga again. So, I believe I decided to become a mangaka a little later than others.
※Galaxy Cyclone Braiger (銀河旋風ブライガー)

●Then you got hooked into the doujinshi world... Or rather, that's how it all started, huh?


Yeah, while I was drawing, people would tell me 'oh, you're pretty good', so I believe that motivated me to keep drawing, and eventually various book people started reaching out to me.

●What happened around then?

I still hadn't thought about making a book on my own; I simply enjoyed drawing. ... But as I started to get more exposure, my network of contacts exploded, so I decided to make one on my own. Because I had been drawing for all sorts of places until then, there were many who wanted to draw for me, and I was able to create a pretty lavish book without too much trouble.

●In that context, you started 'Little Women' (若草物語) from Gakken (学研). What was the trigger for that?

When I was about to graduate from high school in my third year, an editor-san asked me to draw something for them... I had just failed my entrance exam, so I thought I'd give it a shot... and in the spring after I graduated from high school, I drew 'Little Women'. Of course, I had no intention of quitting doujinshi, so I continued drawing Captain Tsubasa while working on 'Little Women' (by that time, I had moved from Braiger to Captain Tsubasa)...

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●At the time, there was a Lolicon Boom, and it was a time where boys were on the rise while girls were still in a slump.

Yeah, that was true until the early days of Captain Tsubasa... It was only after Captain Tsubasa caught on that girl Circles became more active. Circles like Asagaya Doumei (阿佐ヶ谷同盟) and CITY-A started to become active.

●Kouga-san was also working in that sort of environment, huh?

To be honest, I liked Captain Tsubasa and wanted to do it quietly. ... But then Omachi (お町) from Asagaya Doumei invited me to join her, and so Omachi and I rented an apartment to draw manga in Asagaya for the first time. Around that time, I started a solo Circle called CLUB/Y, and started drawing Captain Tsubasa more and more.

●It feels as if Captain Tsubasa was somewhat different from the anime girls had enjoyed up until then. ... It was just a normal sports manga about energetic boys. It was rather low-key compared to SF-types like Braiger or Gundam. I still don't understand why it was popular with girls, or why girls were awakened by Captain Tsubasa.

I believe one reason is that there were few original anime that were good coming out. Because there were no good ones, even the doujinshi were boring. Also, the manga called 'Captain Tsubasa' itself had an appeal. It was made in a traditional way, and was Shounen Jump's flagship work at the time, so naturally it was drawn for elementary schoolboys and was very clear about it. It had battles, the protagonist never lost, and it was refreshing... That sort of thing. ... I believe it was a work that had that sort of fundamental pleasure.

●Surprisingly, for girls, they probably never experienced the pleasure of reading a shounen manga before, and perhaps Captain Tsubasa was their first experience, right?

Perhaps that's true. When I was in middle school, I liked 'Ring ni Kakero' (リングにかけろ) by Kurumada Masami (車田正美), but I believe there has always been a portion among girls that are attracted to shounen manga. So then in the most major of major manga magazines called Jump, a work that followed the royal road of shounen manga appeared. When you read it, it had a fundamental pleasure that felt really good. That sort of thing is interesting for anyone to read, so it's not surprising it was popular with girls as well as boys.

●But was that alone enough to create a boom that would change the course of doujinshi?

I believe the reason Captain Tsubasa became so big among doujinshi was because, beyond its appeal in itself, good artists gathered to it. At first, they were told that being so enthusiastic about it and doing cosplay was gross, but in the end, even the girls who said that ended up buying them because it was packed with good artists, and their favourite artists were drawing them. Everyone wants to read good books, after all. I suppose people started buying them and got hooked.

●So most of them got hooked because of interpersonal relationships?

It seemed that way. Of course, there were some girls who absolutely hated it. Some of the girls I had been working with since my Braiger days said things like, "I like your drawings, but I definitely don't want it to be just Captain Tsubasa.". Well, the people who were into it were very passionate, so I didn't mind being told that.

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●Everyone was drawing at an incredible pace back then.

I was doing two or three hundred pages a month, and the people around me were working at a similar pace. At the time, most of the people making doujinshi and drawing stories over 100 pages were the same people doing Captain Tsubasa.

●Up until then, you've only drawn short things like short-shorts or one-page gags. ... So why did you start drawing full-length stories?

In my case, I couldn't stand short stories. I believe I couldn't fully portray the characters unless I spent dozens of pages dividing the panels, cutting Names, and illustrating the stories. So the number of pages just kept growing and growing.

●The fact everyone started drawing at such a high-pace is connected to the fact that spot sale events started to become more and more common with them being held almost monthly.

Yeah, it was a mutual interaction. Because we drew at a high pace, we were able to hold more spot sale events, and because there were so many spot sale events, we could draw at a high-pace. Back then, there was a bubble economy even within society as a whole, so it was a very lively place in many ways. The more spot sale events there were, the more people came, which meant more books were sold, which increased profits to publish more and more books. You couldn't do things like foil stamping or hardcovers without money, after all.

●Back then, Kouga-san's works could be seen here and there. You must've drew a lot, huh?

Yeah, ever since I was doing Braiger, I drew any requests that came from outside so long as it wasn't excessive. It meant I was needed and acknowledged. I was also happy to expand my circle of friends. I kept drawing and hardly turned down any requests, so most months, I was drawing six or seven hundred pages.

●No time to sleep, huh...?

Yeah, I drew without sleeping. But back then, I was a lot worse at drawing than I am now, so the drawing itself didn't take much time.

●Even so, that was an incredible speed.

Back then, I couldn't keep up with drawing what I wanted to draw, so I believed my drawing was slow and felt frustrated. Later, I became a professional and at my peak, I was drawing around 600 pages a month, and an Editor-san told me my drawing skills were impressive, but I would think to myself, "I could draw more." When I was doing doujinshi, there were lots of people around me who were drawing two or three hundred pages, so I didn't think I was drawing that much.

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●A life immersed in manga, huh?

Actually, after I failed my university entrance exam, I had planned to take a year off and then retake the exam, but I was drawing manga so that thought left my mind. Looking back, I believe my life was decided sometime that year. I simply loved drawing manga, and so long as I could do that, I didn't care about anything else. So, I wasn't worried about the future.

●I would like to ask you about Yaoi (The act of borrowing characters and settings to create your own love story using only the most delicious parts. Mainly refers to anime parodies involving homo relationships. The term started being used after Captain Tsubasa.), when Kouga-san started doing Captain Tsubasa, was Yaoi already a methodology?

I believe it probably was. Even before, there were cases where people would pair up their favourite characters pairings for boy skinship. I believe it started being called Yaoi with Captain Tsubasa, as there were a great many ecchi works, so I suppose that established the genre. I also believe Captain Tsubasa had a lot of characters, so you could choose any couple you liked, and there were all sorts of different couples.

●Even at Comiket, things got out of hand when they didn't separate the couples in the Captain Tsubasa genre. And when it came to deciding who's the Uke and who's the Seme, they turned into completely different worlds...

Right. I was quite fond of Ken×Koji (健×小次), but for example, when Ken was a Seme, I would draw him as very manly and wild, and when he's the Uke, I would draw him as gentle and delicate. They were completely different people, and their worldviews were also completely different. In essence, depending on whether they're the Uke or the Seme, you might not be able to accept another's position, or you might find them physically unbearable. But by that token, if you find it unbearable, it means you have a strong attachment to the character, and that you're particular about drawing people and depicting their emotions and mental actions.

●So drawing Yaoi turned into training to delve into the inner workings of a person?

Right. You can't draw without considering the true essence of a person, so if you gain the ability to grasp the true essence of a person, you'll be able to draw not only Yaoi, but also works for a general audience.

●If you're able to convey people that well, wouldn't that lead to you wanting to do something more original?

No. There's the fact the story I developed was original in itself, but I didn't believe what I was drawing was original, so I had no intention of making any claims about it, and was aware what I was doing was an anime parody. Rather than wanting to create something unique, I had a stronger desire to do what I love in the way I love it. I wasn't at all concerned with a certain beauty of style, like creating my own world, so I wasn't interested in that, either. Anyways, it was simply a matter of drawing what I liked at the moment in the way I liked it at the moment. Regardless, I liked Ken.

●After Captain Tsubasa, you immediately went on to Maouden. Why was that? It was around when Saint Seiya started, and the work was rather adult.

First, the reason I left Captain Tsubasa was because I exhausted the story of Ken×Koji and went as far as I could with them. To me, Ken and Kojirou were people whose only fates were to have one of them die, both of them die, or for them to break up. After all, they're both guys. What I wanted to depict were the mistakes of youthful passion, so it was necessary to end their stories those ways. I drew their stories with that assumption in mind, and finally, their stories reached a point where the next time I drew a story about the two of them, I would have to depict one of those things. But I didn't want to draw that, so... I stopped.

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●Couldn't you have ended their story with a happy end?

That's because I didn't believe it could happen. I couldn't draw a lie. ... So, I ended it... I thought... I can no longer draw Ken×Koji, and I was tearing up. By that time, I was around 21 and had started thinking differently, so I thought why not try something new. With Captain Tsubasa, I experienced how a good artist could lead a genre, so I thought it would be interesting if I could attract people's attention by making something that probably wouldn't become a genre by submitting a good work as a doujinshi, making it into a genre, so I started Maouden. Of course, that's because I had really grown to like Maouden.

●Compared to Captain Tsubasa, the world of the story was changed completely. Were you aware the way you depicted it was different?

I interpreted it as a story about Gento and Setsura's first love, so the theme wasn't different in that aspect. But I made a conscious effort to use colours and shapes suitable for Maouden. The mood and flavour of the book, for example, the background and the way the books were made... Well, perhaps my tastes have changed since I first started to like Maouden.

●Did you have any intention of turning other works by Kikuchi Hideyuki-san (菊地秀行) into a doujinshi?

I enjoyed stuff like 'Vampire Hunter D' (吸血鬼ハンターD) and 'Demon City Blues' (魔界都市ブルース), but I wasn't particularly interested in anything other than Maouden.

●After Captain Tsubasa when you went into Maouden, were you hoping to continue stories from this world... For example, like Yumemakura Baku-san (夢枕獏)?

I liked the Chimera (キマイラ) series, but I had no intention of turning it into a doujinshi. ... Basically, I started drawing because I was attracted to the strong relationship between Gento (浪蘭幻十) and Setsura (秋せつら) bounded by fate, not because I was drawn by eros or violence. I didn't believe Yumemakura-san's works had that sort of feel to them.

●Afterwards, you made a pretty big splash with Yajou Teikoku (夜嬢帝国) in the doujinshi world. In a sense, it was almost as if you were running a commercial business, but was that intentional?

Right. For 'Yajou Teikoku', I did it in the form of creating a strategy in advance.

●People say you were good at selling them, but did you understand the preferences of girls in that area?

No, I didn't think about that. That's because in the beginning, I simply wanted to do what I enjoyed. And it was a hit, so what I liked was accepted, so I simply kept doing more and more. I knew that even though there were people who were against us, there were also people who supported us.

●After that, you left doujinshi and went on to work professionally. What led to that?

I got tired of forming strategies and creating books. When I thought about it, I just couldn't compete with professional editors in that regard. For me, doujinshi is about 'creating books', and commercial magazines are about 'drawing manga'.

●I would also like to ask you about your professional career since then, your hiatus, and your future plans, but we've run out of pages. I would like to talk about that in a second instalment, but to close, do you have any words of wisdom for people thinking about creating doujinshi in the future?

I'm often asked things like, "My art looks similar to Kouga-san's art, so is Kouga-san angry with me?" But I'm not angry at all; it's fine for anyone to copy me or anyone else, so I hope they don't worry about that and draw. Doujinshi are things where you can do whatever you want. However, it's best to avoid hurting others or breaking the law.


——Recorded at Shibuya '109' on July 24th, 1992

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I would like to talk about that in a second instalment
As far as I know, there would never be a second instalment unfortunately. Kouga Yun is an artist I enjoy even though her works are so long, I can never finish them (one of my old acquaintances called her 'Loveless' serial 'Pointless', hahaha).

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Introduction to Yaoi


Yaoi is a World of Love Only Women Can Dream of

Yonezawa Yoshihiro (米沢嘉博)


Picking out your favourite male characters and creating a couple... 'Yaoi' was established as a kind of anime parody for homo-relationships. Unrelated to the decline of genres, Yaoi may be the zenith of love fiction women have achieved... Expanding beyond anime and manga, it encompasses idols, sports players, and historical figures, transforming them into the protagonists in a comforting world. And it's a fictional world of love only women can dream of, a privileged one that differs from the homosexual world men see.


The Origin and Development of Yaoi


In the early 1970s, the Bishounen Hobby and Gay-relationship Dramas by Hagio Moto (萩尾望都) and Takemiya Keiko (竹宮恵子) birthed a big trend in the shoujo manga world. Eventually, this gave rise to a methodology known as 'homo parody' in the doujinshi world when shoujo manga was at its peak, and in the latter half of the 1970s, it grave rise to anime parodies of works such as 'Gundam' (ガンダム) and 'Rydeen' (ライディーン). However, in the 1980s, the Lolicon wave surged and anime parodies by girls went into a somewhat gradual decline. This was not unrelated to the fact early anime parody artists were making their debuts one after the other around this time, but the biggest factor was the lack of an anime to get excited about. 'J9' and 'Godmars' (ゴッドマーズ) had a major influence among them.

It was around 1982~1983 that girls began to feel a sense of rivalry towards Lolicon, using terms such as Shotacon (Shoutarou Complex/Short Pants Shounen Hobby) and Adult Complex (Ojisan Hobby). Words were in demand. Meanwhile, shoujo manga-type gay fanciers became entangled in pro-zines such as 'JUNE' and 'Allan', which developed into the Aesthetic-type (耽美) and JUNE-type trends. It was a twisted world of decadence, dominated by the European Hobby mainstream and featuring a selection of bishounen. To put it bluntly, it was a world of select interests that require knowledge and a sense for details.

The time was 1985. Anime parody Circles for 'Captain Tsubasa' (キャプ翼) appeared. Healthy, normal Japanese sports Shounen, and a love that surpasses friendship. In 1~2 years, it rose into a superpower. The genre gained momentum with the mass consumers of the Strawberry Generation (イチゴ世代), the love dramas more general than the JUNE world, and the appearance of a new generation of artists with new styles, such as Kouga Yun (高河ゆん), Ozaki Minami (尾崎南), Shou-san (省さん), and Satonaka Mamoru (里中守) among others...... The half-deprecating word known as 'Yaoi' (No Peak. No Climax. No Meaning), which started to be used from around the time of the manga research 'Lovely' (ラブリ), soon became established as an anime parody dealing in homo-relationships. The methodology of Yaoi equalling anime parody, which allowed artists to tell their own love stories by borrowing characters and settings, quickly spread among doujinshi where it was difficult to draw long works.

'Saint Seiya' (聖闘士星矢) and Shurato (天空戦記シュラト) followed 'Captain Tsubasa', and in 1988, 'Trooper' (鎧伝サムライトルーパー) appeared and further absorbed the younger generation. This coincided with the expansion of the doujinshi bubble, and the Yaoi influence grew to account for 60~70% of doujinshi, even making its way into pro-zines and becoming a major power.


The Substance and Pattern of Yaoi


Yaoi is a love story. Two favourite characters known as the Willy-Nilly* (任意; Nin'i) are extracted from the original work to create a couple. Popular pairings include Ken and Kojiro in 'Captain Tsubasa' and Shun and Hyoga in 'Saint Seiya'. Aiming for laughs, sometimes unusual pairings are used. And in their relationship, one of them naturally plays the female role. The pattern is that the boyish and cute one plays the female role, and the tough and bishounen-type, or cool-type, plays the male role. An example of this relation would be called 'Koji-uke' (小次受). Needless to say, they are the one on the receiving end.
※T/L Note: I could not find a single English-language article that even mentions this Yaoi term, so I feel awkward about the possibility of being the first to translate or even explain this compound into English. Nin'i is leaving something to that person's will (leave it to their own devices), personal freedom.

In works where few Shounen are introduced, this sort of patterned coupling is often chosen from the very beginning. This is the case for Kujaku (孔雀) and Onimaru (王仁丸) from 'Peacock King' (孔雀王), and Ippo (一歩) and Miyata (宮田) from 'Hajime no Ippo' (はじめの一歩). With this, their love story is depicted, but the female role often does something strange in the daily conte-style pattern, and the male role does a chan-chan, "Even so, I like that about you." While such comedy and daily life stuff are depicted, there are many depictions of the fierce, ultimate love as represented by Ozaki Minami. The 'ultimate love' which is impossible between a man and a woman. Hardcore gay sex. SM and bondage, a journey where they hurt each other, leading to their deaths......

Another common pattern is to play with another world, for example an SF or period drama, and assign favourite characters to play a role. Parodies that incorporate the nonsense gag style of Yoshida Sensha (吉田戦車) and Igarashi Mikio (いがらしみきお) are also common. ——However, the mainstream of Yaoi mostly ignores the artistic style of the original and tells its own story with its own drawings and preferred style, straying far from the traditional 'parody'. What they're borrowing is the basic character settings and their names. Readers often can read these without knowing the original. Conversely, they say some readers shift from the parody to the original.

It feels 'Yaoi' is no longer simply an anime parody, but rather a pornographic love drama for girls. ——Liking the original anime, or liking the characters, is merely code, an excuse, to confirm a mutually shared experience. In short, they want to draw and read Yaoi-type dramas——this shows Yaoi has not declined in any way in the midst of the decline of genres. It may be a fiction of supreme love girls obtained through shoujo manga and anime parodies. But it's not just anime or manga. Idols, sports players, and historical figures are transformed into the love protagonists of a comforting world for girls.


The Potential and Essence of Yaoi


Transformation——It's a fact many of the relationships between the two Shounen in Yaoi are depicted as being similar to one between a man and a woman. It goes without saying the one on the receiving end is female. However, in this world, there are no women who are rivals to the reader or the artist. In addition, the love of Shounen, who are incapable of giving birth, burns purely and brightly for that very reason. Their flesh collides, but the weight of flesh doesn't produce life. Pregnancy, childbirth, childcare, aging, and death...... Transcending all of these things, these two exist to love each other because they love each other.

Undying love——a well-defined term. A bond between souls separated from the body——the absolutisation of romanticism——the crystallisation of a dream... The purpose of Yaoi is a world of ultra-fictional love dreamed up by girls that differs from the homosexual world of gay sex that men peer into with naked curiosity.

Aesthetic sought 'beauty' in the setting and characters. Ladies' Comic also seeks beauty in sex scenes. But Yaoi doesn't care about the act or the world. So long as the mental connection between the two is beautiful...... So, girls who reject men are not attracted to Yaoi, nor are they longing for gays or rejecting sex. ——If the beautiful love romance and fantasy, where romantic comedies unfolded, were from an era when marriage was pre-determined, trapped in an institutionalised masculinity and femininity, then Yaoi is a world of love romance currently being built to transcend gender and escape the banality of the outside world.

It was born from doujinshi. Or rather, it was a Hobby World born because of doujinshi. However, it's heading towards one of the endpoints of a long line of entertainment for girls. Yoshiya Nobuko's (吉屋信子) 'Hana Monogatari' (花物語) and the fictional romances developed by Takarazuka (宝塚) are, right now, trying to connect their dark trends to Yaoi. To treat 'Yaoi' as a simple fad in the doujinshi world is to declare a complete lack of understanding of Shoujo Hobby and Shoujo themselves. And it's certain it will have an impact on the popular culture of the 1990s. Interlocking with feminism, its influence on shoujo manga, its appearance in junior novels and Aesthetic novels, its wave reaching rock and idols...... Yaoi will soon take on a clear form.


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Interview
Morino Usagi (森野うさぎ) (Wiki)

Although the crackdown has dampened its popularity, even now Bishoujo-type works have a firmly rooted popularity. We spoke to Morino Usagi, an artist who has continued to draw ecchi Bishoujo since before the genre called Bishoujo existed, about Bishoujo, the way he draws Bishoujo, how he feels about Bishoujo, and the regulation issues.

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●What triggered your start in Doujinshi?

During the 7th Comiket, a friend forced me to come along. Back then, it was at the Industrial Hall... we walked around, you see... but I didn't think much of it at the time. Then, during the 8th or 9th one, I tried to buy a copy of Cybele, and they asked me my age... (laughs) I was still in high school at the time, so I was like, "Well—, you see..."... But they wouldn't sell it to me, and... I kept pestering them until they finally relented (laughs)... and from then on, I started to keep buying doujinshi. Afterwards, I started going to Manga Garou (漫画ガロー) in Ekoda. Though my friend who took me to Comiket also took me there, you see... That's where I became acquainted with the guys from Cybele...

●During the 7th one, there was nothing but anime-types, right?

Right. There were some amazing original works, but even though I bought them, due to me being in high school, I couldn't keep up... I wasn't the type that drew back then, I was completely the reader type, so even though I read them, the drawings were amazing, but I often couldn't understand the contents. In that sense, Cybele was a pioneer in another way.

●So, it was after you joined Cybele you started drawing doujinshi.

Right. The fellows at Cybele told me they wouldn't forgive me if I didn't draw (laughs), so I did a bit of doodling here and there, but I hadn't done anything remotely like manga... After that, I got deeply involved in doujinshi, and because of that, I couldn't get a job and slowly went down the evil path (laughs)... Everyone started moving in different directions after the Lolicon Boom, and I also left Cybele to make my own doujinshi. At first, I put out 'Techno Lolia' (テクノロリア), saying I would pioneer the 'Mecha & Shoujo' genre, but it didn't sell at all (laughs). I was like, "Please buy it." And finally sold them. There were even queues.

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●Back then, there wasn't that much sexy stuff in male-type works yet, right?

They weren't particularly erotic... I just wanted to do stuff where little girls appear, but you see... well, I didn't want to copy people, since I went to the trouble to draw this much, I thought I would also draw the ecchi parts, but even when others ask me, "Draw it for me, that part of course (laughs)." ... Even now, it's basically the same.

●In the end, it was mostly based on requests?

Yeah... I didn't really have any intention of doing that sort of stuff, but when someone asks, "Umm, Morino, could you draw it for me?" I would say 'sure', it was that sort of request pattern.

●Cybele had a doujinshi-scent and was completely created among a circle of friends. But afterwards, they started asking others to edit and draw manuscripts for them, like they were some kind of unit, right?

Yeah, that's the way to keep it going. If you stick to a Circle, you cannot criticise your friends. If someone says, "Your part here is a bit...", the Circle will begin to rupture. Even a good doujinshi can go bust in an instant because of that.

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●When did you start AWAKE?

At first, we used the name Studio Baki (スタジオ・バキ), and back then I was helping with the editing of 'Burikko' and introducing artists, but then a group of us saw the anime called 'Daicon' by General Productions there, and we decided to make our own opening anime for the upcoming SF convention 'Urusai' (ウル祭), and that's how AWAKE got started. So, at first our goal was to create an anime. That took us 4~5 years, though (laughs).

●You must've been glad when you completed it (laughs).

(Laughs) Truly. It was difficult to complete even after we took pre-order money, you could say it was almost a scam. We used mostly professionals for the production. The production costs were insane. We did stupid stuff like use the same number of sheets as a television anime. That alone ended up costing us a huge amount... It was somewhat different from our doujin activities. We were in a state where we were selling doujinshi to create the anime. It wasn't an amount we could cover with our personal money, so we had no choice but to cover it with the profits from our doujinshi... Even so, we rented a studio and hired professional photographers, so we were constantly in the red.

●What were the members back then doing?

All the guys back then were aiming to become mangaka , and some were working in commercial magazines, but they were doing doujinshi because there were things they couldn't do in a commercial magazine. Kuruma Shin'ichi-kun (来留間慎一), who drew for 'Shounen Captain' (少年キャプテン), said he wanted to do something dirty. Captain's kinda harsh. Even though it's not ero, he gets told 'the theme isn't very suitable for children'.

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●But the prior generation... For example, Takahashi Rumiko completely stopped doing doujinshi when she went pro. I wonder why...

Back in Takahashi-san's days, she did original works in the true sense. I believe she felt it was enough if she can draw. That's why she can express what's inside her in commercial magazines. That's what I believe...

●It was around when you were doing AWAKE that ero started to get more intense.

But the gist of what we were doing was the same as before, so I didn't think it got that intense. Also, it was a matter of art style, but it being bad to show such things back then was our first code, so we tried not to show such things. So, even if it was intense, I don't think it was that intense. What was amazing were the young people who came after us. They started drawing those scenes properly, you see. Because they were so talented, those scenes became even more realistic, so I believe that has led to people starting to create doujinshi just because they wanted to draw those sorts of scenes.

●When you started AWAKE, you published a work called 'XSEED' (エクシード), which was a semi-commercial magazine. Were you aiming to make that a semi-commercial magazine?

It was simply a joke to make it look just like a commercial magazine, that is all. I thought since we had a certain number of readers, we didn't need to go with one-shots, so we could create series. And then the number of works increased, so I compiled them into a tankoubon (laughs).

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●Were there any desires to eventually have it succeed as a publication?

No, it was completely a joke. If it became a commercial magazine, I wouldn't be able to draw what I wanted to draw.

●But back then, you had talks of making yourselves into a company.

There were talks of turning Studio Zag-Art (スタジオ・ザガード) into a company, but I had a dispute with the editor and it fell apart at that stage. We were able to create one volume called 'V-Zone' (Vゾーン), but...

●It was also a time when girls started to do that sort of thing in a pretty flashy way, right? Studio Peacock (スタジオピーコック) and a few other companies emerged, right? I was wondering if you had some interaction with them.

There was almost no actual interaction. AWAKE... and Zag-Art were the same, but the idea was that we were different from the other groups. Well, because of the anime, I didn't have any time to interact with others.

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●AWAKE ended as soon as the anime was finished, right?

Yeah, we decided to disband AWAKE, since it tentatively completed its task. Soon after, we started 'System Gzzy' (システム・ギジー), and that's when we developed our doujinshi style. However, even after AWAKE disbanded, we still had doujinshi debts, so I felt we had to carry on a little longer.

●Back then, you didn't have a clear vision on whether you were going to do anime parodies or original works, right?

That's right. We hadn't clearly decided upon whether to be an anime fan club or an original work doujinshi, so we went with both. Anime would've sold better, though. With anime and games, it has a mother, so it's quicker to understand. If we were completely original, only our fans would buy it.

●I suppose you felt it's no good if it doesn't sell well, huh?

I had debts to pay off after all, so I was worried if I couldn't sell my doujinshi, that would be the end of me.

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●Right now, due to social issues, only the artwork is checked, but perhaps a time will come when the contents are also checked, so do you have any thoughts on that?

The way things are going, I think it's possible society will say the contents are bad.. For example, things like SM or splatter...

●Yeah, that and the girls also being in danger. Sailor suits are bad as well, but thanks to 'Sailor Moon', there'll likely be a lot of those this summer (laughs). They're sailor uniform bishoujo warriors, so the day will come where that'll become a parody...

But it'll be harsh when the contents are regulated as well... I just want to draw Shoujo, not necessarily as a Lolicon-zine. Also, I want to depict the forbidden parts... sibling love, close relative love. I don't really care to depict them doing the deed.

●You want to depict things like the girls being pretty...?

Yeah, I want to depict their cuteness. I don't want girls to be like dolls. When I look at Lolicon-type magazines, I often see girls who don't complain or do anything as they're being violated... I don't want to draw those sorts of dolls. I want to depict living and moving girls. I might be thought of as a dangerous guy (laughs)... But it's not like I particularly want to draw genitals. I just want to draw stories with that sort of content, so I enjoy drawing them. Whether it's SF, school, or love-comedies, I draw things that are impossible in real life, and the fact that it's impossible is what makes it interesting, which is why murder case stuff sells so well. Deep down, everyone has the urge to commit murder. ... That sort of thing may be interesting if it's done in SF, but I don't quite see how it's interesting if it's done in Yaoi. It needs to be a proper drama, you see.

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●There was a time when it seemed many people thought that way.

But in the end, that sort of stuff is no good, so on the contrary, places that have a policy, or put effort into their drawings, sell reasonably well. Also, among the young people that have emerged recently, there's some with incredible sensibilities. Utatane Hiroyuki (うたたねひろゆき), for example, has a sensibility I can't compete with. Beautiful works with sex as a theme.

●If it's a work drawn with that sort of purpose, it might be able to fight against regulations.

It would be great if everyone just did what they wanted to do, but in most places, they cannot. There's too many books unable to fight against regulations. Recently, I haven't been able to buy them myself; I need to ask others to buy them for me, so I can't read more than two-thirds of them. I don't just mean ero, I want something to come out when I read those books. Something that makes you feel... The saddest thing is that there are fewer girls who draw things that make you feel that way. Men didn't used to draw such things to begin with, which is fine, but what if the girls stopped drawing that?

●Speaking of which, you sometimes create books for girls, so how is that going?

Badly, they don't sell. It would be different if it was a marginal difference, but the difference between what's popular and what's not is huge.

●The recent book creation has become prettier than those made for men, but isn't that largely due to the influence of girls?

Yeah, it's completely the influence of girls. I've gotten to know more girl Circles, and started buying lots of books by girls. Then I found out their designs were so beautiful, you couldn't compare them to other books (laughs). Even if men didn't care about such things, I wanted to make something nice... but that meant the printing expenses costing about twice as much as Shinda Mane-san's (新田真子) place. Girls think if they have to pay printing costs, they can add that amount to the final product, but with men, they won't buy anything that costs more than 1000 yen.

●It seems male readers have a psychological wallet that makes them unwilling to spend more than a 1000 yen.

It seems that way. It feels like there's a big difference between 3000 yen for 3 books and 4500 yen for 3 books. Girls probably buy them even if they're over 1000 yen because they already decided which Circles to buy from. Guys tend to want to buy from over there and buy from over here, you see... We'd also gladly buy a bunch of cheap books, you see... But in the past, people would say our books were expensive, but they haven't been saying that recently. I guess people are finally starting to understand that point.

●I suppose they've simply grown accustomed to the fixed price (laughs).

The price hasn't changed for a long time, so fishing for loose change has grown troublesome... (laughs).

●What do you enjoy about doujinshi, Morino-san?

It's a pain when I'm drawing them (laughs). I wonder to myself why I'm doing this when it's not my job. If you want to make a good living, you shouldn't do doujinshi. The sales aren't that great.

●I suppose what you want to draw cannot be drawn in commercial magazines?

Right. Cause I believe I cannot draw anything in a commercial magazine. Normal manga can probably be drawn for any commercial magazine, but I believe what people call Lolicon-type cannot be drawn for commercial magazines. Well, I believe some will say that's not true, but what I want to do right now is definitely impossible. For example, if I want to draw a long story, it's impossible to draw it at 8 pages, or 100 pages. Even if someone tells me to serialise it, there aren't many readers willing to read this sort of manga in a serialised form. Since that's the case, I believe it's better for them to read a lot of pages in a doujinshi and be satisfied. After all, the places that sell well, or are popular, with individuals tend to draw long stories properly...

●However, while commercial magazines have restrictions and you can only publish 50% of what you want to draw, the advantage is that your work can be read by many people.

It's difficult, isn't it? If you want a lot of people to read your work, maybe doujinshi isn't for you. I believe doujinshi is about saying, "I drew this, do you want to read it?". So if you want a lot of people to read it, I believe you'll need to do it in a commercial magazine. ... Also, what I think is nice about doujinshi is the creation process. Drawing is hard, but it's so satisfying once it's finished; you can put a lot of effort into making the cover, for example, or change it to 2-colours midway, the editing part's also fun.

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History of Doujinshi

By Yonezawa Yoshihiro


From Shounen Manga to Rental Gekiga


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(Because of how horrible it was to translate the previous interviews and articles, I'm going to postpone this until someone scans this book, so I can translate it accurately, it's information dense, which makes it the most susceptible to errors... These are the chapter titles of Yonezawa's contribution to the book; there's other parts written by others, like the Bishoujo doujinshi history chapter)


’COM' Period

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Before Comiket


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Beginning of Comiket

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Anime Parody and Lolicon

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To the 'Yaoi' Period

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I couldn't find any info on this in English, but Lovely (ラヴリ) is very important in the history of Yaoi. Not to one-sidedly bash the female side of the western anime fandom—the male side has their own problems worth bashing—however, it is sad that aside from Sharon Kinsella, I cannot think of a single female researcher whose name is worth mentioning despite the overwhelming number of fan translation groups for BL manga. The first scanlation I ever read was one for a manga called 'Yamada Tarou Monogatari'; everything I've read before then were text translations (no scanned images) and the editing and writing quality for Yamada Tarou Monogatari impressed me a great deal when I first read it. Despite this, it seems no one from the BL side of the scanlation community has bothered to scan JUNE, or do an objective analysis for any of these old magazines. I also haven't seen any articles in English that mentioned Moto Hagio's friendship with Azuma Hideo, which is a travesty I'll need to correct in the future by translating one of their talks.

Summary and Information Related to the Doujinshi 'Lovely':

From 'Trooper' to Now

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STUDIO AWAKE
A group of us saw the anime called 'Daicon' by General Productions there, and we decided to make our own opening anime for the upcoming SF convention 'Urusai' (ウル祭), and that's how AWAKE got started. So, at first our goal was to create an anime. That took us 4~5 years, though (laughs).
I was trying to find out if anyone uploaded high quality versions of AWAKE's anime, and had no luck. In any case, here's all of the video clips I could find in relation to Morino Usagi's activities with Awake.

History and Summary Video:


Burikko AWAKE Articles:


Download Archive

Awake:

Awake 2:

Space Sheriff Obanon (宇宙刑事オバノン):

Opatsu Oman (オーパーツ_オーマン):

STUDIO ZAG-ART
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There were talks of turning Studio Zag-Art (スタジオ・ザガード) into a company, but I had a dispute with the editor and it fell apart at that stage. We were able to create one volume called 'V-Zone' (Vゾーン), but...​

Morino Usagi's foray into a commercial magazine. He published a single issue before he got into an argument with the editor who banished Morino Usagi and most of the other staff, and this evil editor hired completely new staff to do the following several issues in a completely different direction mostly involving western horror movies before the magazine finally went *kaput*. I'm still hoping to find this first issue in a second-hand shop for a reasonable price.




Moe is the model for Asami Ai (麻見愛) from 'How About Ai♥Milk Tea?' (愛♡ミティはいかが?) I'm serialising in 'Yume to Hana' (夢とはな).

Should've included this in the previous article, but forgot. Better late than never.


Spiritual History of Otaku Afterword

By Ootsuka Eiji (大塚英志)



Now then, I used the illustration of Hayasaka Miki's character 'Moe' (萌) on the cover without his permission. I failed to return this illustration to him, so it's been hanging in my workplace. I looked for his contact information, but couldn't find it again. I'm aware it was an 'out' in regards to copyright, but I decided to use it without his permission because he was perhaps the first to attach the character 'Moe' (萌) to a bishoujo character. That said, he saw a girl wearing this sort of polka-dot dress among the girls of the Takenoko Tribe* in Harajuku, and liked her so much, he drew an illustration based on a photo of her. I forget why he named her 'Moe'. Or why Hayasaka thought 'Moe' was a suitable name for a yankee girl from the Takenoko Tribe back then. When I told this story to a foreign researcher who came to my workplace, he must've only heard half of it; he left excited, thinking he had discovered 'The Origin of Moe in Japanese Otaku Culture'. I don't know if he wrote about it anywhere afterwards. However, miscommunication is also part of history. I feel the globalisation of 'Otaku' is ultimately the result of this sort of miscommunication. So, I'll leave it there.
※Takenoko Tribe (竹の子族): teenagers who dressed flamboyantly and danced in Harajuku from the late 70s to the mid 80s.

When I think about it, Hayasaka was at the centre of those around Azuma Hideo who 'invented' 'Moe'-type characters in doujinshi, but I doubt he anticipated our world would turn out like this. And even if I'm writing this honestly, I'm sure this will circulate like a game of telephone that 'the origin of Moe characters in Japan is this drawing by Hayasaka Miki'. If I were to write that 'Moe' was discovered in a 'yankee culture' like the Takenoko Tribe, I feel someone in North America might write an erroneous paper quoting Saito Tamaki (斎藤環), but even amidst all this potential chaos, I still believe Hayasaka's name should be remembered more, but I don't know what he's doing.

If anyone knows his contact information, I would be grateful if you could let me know.

If Hayasaka finds it unpleasant to have his drawing used in this book, I shall redo the cover.




One of the biggest problems I have right now is that I have thousands of internet browser tabs opened because of research, and it's next to impossible for me to go through my tabs in my free-time and close the ones I'm done with, or finish analysing/compiling the information in another. Real life work takes up too much of my time, so I've been mostly piling up more and more translations and transcriptions into the backburner because proof-editing and getting things organised in my tabs is becoming way too time-consuming for something that isn't paying my bills or putting food in my mouth.

Upcoming (?) Things I Transcribed or Translated:
Manga no Techou Azuma Hideo Interview
Azuma Hideo & Yonezawa Yoshihiro Complete Works Interview
Takahashi Rumiko's Azuma Hideo Fan Article
Mita Ryuusuke Dragon Magazine Interview
Nagai Go Dream Dimension Hunter Talk (Lolita Anime and Overseas Market)
10 out of 12 of Hirukogami Ken's "I Hate Foreigners" (more like "I Hate Christianity" for ruining both Japan and his childhood) Articles
Hirukogami Ken Fusion Product Interview
Ogata Genjirou & Ogata Katsuhiro Lolicon Manga Talk
Konoma Waho and Kazuna Kei Fairy Press Interview

Kera's Kawamoto Kouji and Takekuma Kentarou Talk

So far, excluding Kera creating an account here, I can only count two instances of users who have done anything useful for me on this website. One of them a lurker with zero posts who helped me talk to friendofsandwiches through DM (though nothing came of it), and that one guy who shared his information in English about Aoyama Masaaki before deleting his post for unknown reasons like some kind of cruel joke (I bought the book he read, and the interview was an anonymous doujinshi artist...). Maybe I should stop trying to motivate other people to do useful things, and just listen to Nagayama Kaoru's opinion that people without the correct temperament to research or do useful things can still help by donating money... But I still believe that would be a waste of effort to set up when people are incapable of buying Kimi Rito's book like a normal human, and I'm apparently the first (and probably only ) person who bought Furuma's Otaku Bashing Research Doujin on DLSite.

Regardless, let's see if I can finish a translation for Kera's transcription; it's twice as long as his Ogata Katsuhiro interview, but I want to finish it before Christmas.
 
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Very well written and informative posts with a lot of references that I would love to read further later!

A question though, seeing as your post mostly involve the history what do you think of the future? Do you think there's any hope for lolicon or will it get pushed down, prosecuted and finally killed for good by joint efforts of UN and western puritans?
 
Do you think there's any hope for lolicon or will it get pushed down, prosecuted and finally killed for good by joint efforts of UN and western puritans?

Lolicon has always been persecuted. It's also Japan's strongest weapon, slowly assimilating into every facet of every culture around the world. This year, Steam had a Summer Sale, bending its knee to the might of Lolicon, beseeching Lolicon to peddle their asset-flip catalogue of video games:
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This is what I think of the future:
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This is the only kind of answer I can give. The following talk pertains to what Kawamoto Kouji, the man responsible for Lolicon (ero-manga), thinks of Lolicon's future, so you should read that. Someone in the audience also asks Kawamoto Kouji point blank if he considers himself to be a Lolicon.

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Kera released a sequel to his Kawamoto Kouji tribute doujin 'Flowers for Yamada-san', and this sequel is going to receive a revised printing this December. Kera wrote an introduction to his doujin's sequel here:

There was also some drama regarding Pixiv Booth and this sequel's first printing. From what I understand, Kera spent roughly 5,000 USD on printing costs for the first edition he sold back in August. He shipped these copies to Pixiv Booth's warehouse, and then they denied their sale. Booth has a track record of messing with artists that borders on criminal (there was a real fear they would destroy Kera's books, forcing him into a costly and needless legal battle). So while I would very much like to encourage anyone reading this thread to support Kera's research by purchasing his doujin, I currently do not know of a means you can do so right now. He says in his introduction he plans to sell the revised version on Taco Ché and Booth:

I know Kimi Rito used to have an Enty (crowdfunding website like Fantia that got into big trouble for not paying out to its creators), but honestly, I feel Kera should set up something where it would be easy for anyone, including those overseas, to send him donations. He's doing valuable work, and it costs a lot of time and money to do these things.

In any case, I translated the meat of the sequel, which is a transcription of Kawamoto's talk in 2011 mentioned earlier in this thread. It composes almost 50% of Kera's doujin and took me 3 hours to read it slowly when I did its third proofreading pass. The talk was held as part of the Azuma Hideo exhibition (the Azuma Hideo Long Interview I did last year was a product of this exhibition), and Kera obtained the raw video recording with permission from Kawamoto Kouji's family. There was another talk between Oki Yukao and Kazuna Kei (Link) held around the same time, so I'm hoping Kera will also obtain permission for a video recording of that as well, so it can be transcribed.

During the Q&A portion of the talk, Takekuma Kentarou also stepped up to the microphone. I translated a talk between Takekuma and Okada Toshio from the 1996 issue of 'ACROSS', where they discussed Lolicon and Otaku, but aside from that, I don't believe I properly introduced Takekuma. Okada Toshio and Ootsuka Eiji would be two writers making money off the word Otaku with name value overseas, but Takekuma has written about his participation in the industry for quite some time, and for me personally, a good portion of the stuff I knew about the old days came from Takekuma's blog (Link), which is not easy to navigate.

Takekuma Kentarou also did a talk with Akamatsu Ken about the manga industry that has been translated into English here:
Part 1; Part 2; Part 3; Part 4; Part 5

On the topic of talks about the past, presence, and future for the adult manga industry, there's also a long talk about it between Nagayama Kaoru and Yasuda Rio ('Enemy of Ero') that begins here (Link) (You'll need to scroll down and click '次回の記事>>>' to read the 2nd, 3rd, .., and 7th parts).

Patrick Galbraith translated Nagayama's book 'Erotic Comics in Japan: An Introduction to Eromanga', though Nagayama's book was cheap and Patrick's translation is prohibitively expensive for the common man. Regardless, the website hosting Nagayama's talk is the same website that compiled everything about Aoyama Masaaki, and recently, I learned that in the final issue of 'Hey! Buddy', there was a roundtable talk between notable figures like Takatori Ei, Nagayama Kaoru, Aoyama Masaaki, and Hirukogami Ken (Link). I hope that someday, someone would upload or transcribe this talk because it sounds like it has a lot of valuable information. Especially after reading Takatsuki Yasushi's 'Lolicon' (ロリコン 2009/10/26), which Patrick Galbraith cited in Moe Manifesto. I now understand Patrick's desperation of trying to exonerate Otaku (while censored, the book shows photographs of 'the abyss', hence why the doujinshi artist interviewed in Takatsuki's book wanted to be anonymous). Earlier, someone wanted a summary of this thread, and while it's missing key components and context, I would recommend Takatsuki Yasushi's book if all you want is a summary and the cold, hard truth slammed into your face.


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Source: 『川本耕次に花束を2 SFと美少女の季節』 2024/8/12; 2024/12/30 Revised Version

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Cover Illustration: Uchiyama Aki (内山亜紀)


Season of SF and Bishoujo


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●Illustration: Horiuchi Mariko (堀内満里子) (Link)


Kawamoto Kouji (Former Minori Shobo, Alice Publishing, and Gunyusha Publishing)



Editor, Kannou Novelist, Adult Media Researcher, Blogger, and Businessman. Born in Mishima, Shizuoka Prefecture in 1953. Dropped out of Meiji University's Faculty of Literature. As he frequented the critic group 'Labyrinth' (迷宮), which became the founding body for Comic Market during his student days, he led the third-rate gekiga boom together with Yonezawa Yoshihiro, who later became the representative of Comic Market. In 1977, he started working at Minori Shobo, where he launched the New Wave manga magazine 'Monthly Peke' (月刊 Peke) for maniacs. After the magazine was discontinued, he moved to Alice Publishing, the industry leader in vending machine porn, and became editor-in-chief of the legendary vending magazine 'Shoujo Alice' (少女アリス), which sparked the Lolicon Boom. After leaving Alice Publishing, he moved to Gunyusha Publishing. In 1982, he planned and edited the 'Lolicon Complete Works' (ロリコン大全集). After which, he published many Lolita Kannou novels. Becoming a pioneer in the field. His books include a retrospective history of porno culture, 'Porno Magazine Showa History' (ポルノ雑誌の昭和史) (Chikuma Shinsho). He passed away suddenly towards the end of 2022 due to Covid-19. He was 69 years old. His posthumous name was Gentokuin Houon Nippaku Koji (玄徳院法音日博居士).

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●Introduction: Shiramine Ayako (白峰彩子)


In 2011, there were two Azuma Hideo exhibitions, one in the exhibition section of the library and one in the Meiji University Museum. Just as there were various proposals for the contents of the exhibitions which never came to fruition, there were also various proposals for related talk events. I believe it was I who suggested Kawamoto Kouji. We never interacted, and I didn't know his contact information. Nevertheless, I would say 'Hizashi' (陽射し) was my favourite among all of Azuma-san's works.

It's often difficult to find contact information for those involved in vending machine books. Kawamoto-san maintained connections with people in the manga industry, so I called Yonezawa Eiko-san (米澤英子) to inquire about him. Even if it's not manga-related, some are intrinsically resistant to public speaking. I couldn't ask those kinds of people. Some, who can write (or draw), aren't good at speaking, but that's not the case here. However, those types of light-hearted people tend to not talk about the important things. I wish the event had been attended by a better moderator.

To me, Kawamoto Kouji is someone involved with Labyrinth, and one of the earliest to create a rental book list. I don't believe he has ever used his knowledge of rental books since then. Despite not being related to Azuma-Sensei, he talked about his rental book doujinshi because the venue was the Yoneyan Library, and he was a member of Labyrinth.

During the event introduction, I used the title 'former editor'. I was unsure about his title; he has many titles, but I read Azuma-san's manga and wanted to ask him about his position in the 'Pure Literature Series' (純文学シリーズ).

When I checked the contents of the reference materials, I also checked with Kawamoto-san about his title, and he was OK with it.

I thought it was naturally OK given the purpose of the talk, so I didn't expect he would be too fussy about it.

Even though that was the extent of our connection, I know several who are acquainted with Kawamoto Kouji-san, so I believed I would meet him again someday. I cannot believe more than 10 years have passed since then.


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▲From Left: Kawamoto Kouji (川本耕次), Ijuuin Ranmaru (伊集院乱丸), Hasegawa Hideki (長谷川秀樹), Yonezawa Yoshihiro (米沢嘉博), Harada Teruo (原田央男), Aniwa Jun (亜庭じゅん), and Itano Eiko* (板野英子).
(From the final page of Labyrinth'79 'Comic Critique' 2nd Season 5th Issue. Art: Ishii Hisaichi [いしいひさいち].)

※Itano Eiko is Yonezawa Eiko, Yonezawa Yoshihiro's wife.


This content is a recording of the Kawamoto Kouji Talk Event 'Season of SF and Bishoujo—From Peke to Shoujo Alice', which was held on 2011 May 21st at Meiji University's Yonezawa Yoshihiro Memorial Library as part of a related project to the Azuma Hideo exhibition.


Moderator:
Today, we're hosting a related event to the Azuma Hideo exhibition, and we are joined by the former editor Kawamoto Kouji-san. Well then, Kawamoto-san, I'm looking forward to working with you. (Audience Claps.)

Kawamoto: Nice to meet you. Today, I'll be speaking as a 'former editor'. You see, I've been friends with Yonezawa Yoshihiro-kun from this library since my student days. I also participated in the early Comiket events, and was involved in the Comiket Preparation Committee and 'Labyrinth' (Note 1), which became its mother.


①Participating in the Critic Group 'Labyrinth' Meetings


The timeline in the handout states, "In 1975, the gekiga magazine 'Kannou Gekiga' (Minori Shobo) was launched." But actually, Minori Shobo published a third-rate comic magazine called 'Venture Comic' (ベンチャーコミック) (1973~1975) prior to that. Then, around 1975, Ishii Takashi sparked the 'Ero-Gekiga Boom', and ero-gekiga magazines, including 'Kannou Gekiga' (官能劇画), were launched one after the other.

The timeline also says, "In 1977, Kawamoto Kouji participated in the 'Labyrinth' group meet." But that was the year Yonezawa-kun and I each graduated and dropped out of university. I only attended Meiji University for two years, and then dropped out and re-entered Daito Bunka University, graduating in four years. Yonezawa-kun never managed to graduate, but he was a sixth-year student at Meiji University at the time. I became acquainted with Yonezawa-kun... Or rather, I got involved in 'Labyrinth' because of a rental bookstore. When I was a fourth-year student at Meiji University, I lived in Kamiitabashi and there was a rental bookstore nearby, and I would go there frequently because I could buy things like 'Shounen Magazine' (少年マガジン) and 'Shounen Sunday' (少年サンデー) the day before they were released. So, I looked around the corner of the store and saw some old rental manga covered in dust. While rummaging through them, I got to know someone involved in 'Labyrinth' (The late Hasegawa Hideki [長谷川秀樹]. Later MGM Staff). While we were having a great time talking about manga, he said he'd introduce me to some interesting people, and took me to a coffee shop called 'Baraen' (ばら苑) located above the Inokashira Line ticket gates at Shibuya Station. At the time, there was a 'Labyrinth' meet-up every Friday, and the 'Labyrinth' members—such as Aniwa Jun (亜庭じゅん), Harada Teruo (原田央男), and Shikijou Kyoutarou (式城京太郎) as well as more than 10 others—would show up one after the other. Naturally, Yonezawa-kun was there as well.

Up until that point, I was always working alone, so I started going every week thinking, "Now I can talk about manga with everyone." However, back then, manga maniacs were focusing on artists like Takemiya Keiko (竹宮惠子) and the so-called Year 24 Group (24年組) and you could tell by looking at the doujinshi 'Comic Critique' (漫画新批評大系) by 'Labyrinth', most of the reviews were concerning shoujo manga. There were a lot of shoujo manga readers at Comiket, but I was someone who did not read any shoujo manga, so I was quite the odd one out, even in 'Labyrinth'.

But Yonezawa-kun was different. He had a very broad range of interests, and he read not only shoujo manga, but also other genres. Apparently, his registered domicile was Mizuki Shigeru (水木しげる) and old British rock, but he knows everything about manga and SF. So we got along well, and that's how I started attending the 'Labyrinth' meet-ups.

Around this time, I was creating a doujinshi called 'A5 Dream—Rental Manga Essay' (A5判の夢ー貸本漫画小論ー) about rental manga. When you think of rental manga, you might think of Shirato Sanpei (白土三平), Mizuki Shigeru (水木しげる), or Tsuge Yoshiharu (つげ義春), but they're only a small part of it; rental manga was a more diverse and spread out medium. So, in this book, I didn't just focus on those famous names. I also put the spotlight on artists who were popular in their day, but had already been forgotten by the 1970s, and I've done my own research into what they were thinking and how they worked, and compiled into one book the sort of medium rental manga was exactly.

When I was rummaging through the unsold books at the rental bookstore in Kamiitabashi, the famous titles had already been scavenged, and there were just piles of irrelevant Hinomaru Bunko and the like left. In other words, I was collecting rental manga no one else was paying any attention to back in 1977.

As for 'A5 Dream', I created and sold one hundred copies at the 6th~7th Comiket (July and December 1977) when I was a fourth-year university student, but photocopying was expensive back then, and 100 copies were a small number to print, so I only photocopied the cover and mimeographed the contents. People were making all sorts of doujinshi with mimeographs back then, so this was part of that. I made this book in July of 1977, and shortly after making it, I started working on my next topic, which was 'third-rate gekiga', which were popular at the time.

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A5 Dream—Rental Manga Essay (Kera reprinted this and sold it through Pixiv Booth).
It's currently out-of-print, likely going to gain a status as a collector's item.


②Turning Point: 'Third-rate Gekiga Minimap'



I started hanging out with this strange breed of manga maniacs, and I learned there were passionate maniacs of every artist in every genre, each of whom produced their own doujinshi or personal fanzine. Comiket was originally created as a place for such people to interact, and being competitive, I set my sights on the genre that was changing from 'humorous erotic pink manga' (艶笑ピンク漫画) to 'ero-gekiga' (エロ劇画), simply because 'no one has done it yet'.

Of course, Ishii Takashi was already beginning to be highly evaluated at the time, and there was a major publication called 'Manga Erotopia' (漫画エロトピア) (KK Bestsellers) that would be bundled up as 'ero-gekiga'. However, I felt that part was 'slightly off', so instead I focused on things like 'Manga Daikairaku' (漫画大快楽) (Lemonsha), 'Manga Erogenica' (漫画エロジェニカ) (Kaichousha) edited by Takatori Ei (高取英), and the vending machine magazine 'Gekiga Alice' (劇画アリス) (Alice Publishing) edited by Kamewada Takeshi (亀和田武). I liked the 'dispelling' sense all of them possessed, which were far removed from the traditional sense of true story magazines (実話誌), so I bought up gekiga magazines from minor publishers, mainly those three magazines, and at the same time, visited the publishers of each of those magazines to talk to them about various things. It was a genre no one was covering, so I had no choice but to go out and explore.

So, I started to see all sorts of things. There were many ero-book publishers in Kanda Jinbocho, but that's not all. They were also dotted around places like Yotsuya, Shinjuku, and Nakano. Many of the publishers in Jinbocho were old ones that had been around since right after the war, and many of them originally published true story magazines, but switched to ero-gekiga magazines simply 'because gekiga was currently selling'. Even if the company name is different, it's a subsidiary or just a different brand. The editors were old, too, so even if an out-of-place student jumped in saying, "I'm doing research on third-rate gekiga for a doujinshi." They didn't respond well. You couldn't feel any passion from them. You could sense that from the pages, but I felt that even more strongly while I was there. Meanwhile, once you leave Jinbocho, the atmosphere was quite different. You could sense that the young editors were working with a fair amount of enthusiasm. Well, when I say enthusiasm, I mean on the level of 'what would sell' or 'what is more erotic', and it was by no means the enthusiasm of a manga maniac, but still, it was better than nothing.

The result of my research culminated in the article 'Third-rate Gekiga Minimap', which was published in two parts as the 'Third-rate Gekiga Joint Struggle Conference' (三流劇画共闘会議) in the 1st (1977 December) and 2nd (1978 April) issue of the second season of 'Comic Critique' by 'Labyrinth'. The first part was all about stories like 'this publisher released this sort of book', and the second part was an artist interview with Yoshida Eiichi (吉田栄一) and Shimizu Osamu (清水おさむ).

To write my articles, I went round to about 20 publishing companies, and after my interviews, I got a phone call out of the blue from an editor at Minori Shobo (Note 2), who invited me over, and when I went there, he said, "Hey, cut this with scissors and paste it up." (Laughs). So I did as I was told and pasted the typesetting, and they turned me into an employee (laughs). And that's how I became an editor of 'Kannou Gekiga'.

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Third-rate Gekiga Minimap (from Comic Critique 2nd Season Vol.1 [1977]) p2~3 out of 10).

③My Job Was Only 'Typesetting' and 'Picking Titles'



I'll never forget that day, 1977 October 1st.

Back then, October 1st was the opening day for company visits, so I waited until that day before I was called in. So, at the time I wrote the 2nd part of 'Third-rate Gekiga Minimap', I was already an editor of 'Kannou Gekiga'. I was still in my fourth year of university, and although I was enrolled, I wasn't attending classes, instead I spent every day pasting typesetting for ero-gekiga.

The reason why they invited someone who made doujinshi and turned him into an employee was that at the time, Minori Shobo was publishing an anime magazine called 'Monthly OUT' (月刊OUT), which was originally a subculture magazine that wasn't very popular, but their special issue on 'Space Battleship Yamato' (1977 June issue) sold explosively. Thanks to that, the management believed manga and anime would be profitable, and in an effort to strengthen those areas, they started hiring any fourth-year university students they could find as part-timers or employees. I happened to be assigned to 'Kannou Gekiga' rather than 'OUT', but there were several fourth-year university students at 'OUT' who were hired haphazardly like me, and one of them was from the Waseda University manga research club.

Later, 'OUT' would go on to be a distinguished name in the anime industry for a long time, but I worked side-by-side with the 'OUT' editorial team on 'Kannou Gekiga'. But working on an ero-gekiga magazine requires one editor, not two. The editor-in-chief basically handles the orders alone, receiving the manuscripts, pasting the typesetting, and picking out the titles. At Minori Shobo, we rarely used the titles decided by the artists as-is, editors would come up with their own titles haphazardly. In my case, I would often go to a coffee shop with an information magazine called 'Pia' (ぴあ), and look over the Nikkatsu Roman Porno screening schedule, and tinker with their titles. It was common to take a whole day to decide on the titles, and I would rack my brain over it.

However, now that I think about it, it's a mystery why 'Kannou Gekiga' had two editors. I don't understand why they hired me when one editor-in-chief would have been enough in the first place (laughs). Maybe because they kept increasing the number of staff at 'OUT', it got lonely at the ero-gekiga magazine, and they wanted to hire more staff there as well. Because of that, I had nothing to do even after joining the company. I had so much free time I wanted to help out with the work at 'OUT', but I was told not to get involved in other people's work. So, I kept asking if there was anything I could do, and they said, "There's no work, so go look around the bookstore." (Laughs).

It was around that time I reunited with Ishikawa Jun (いしかわじゅん), a senior at Meiji University, at Minori Shobo. Ishikawa Jun had already graduated from university and had become an ero-gekigaka, but he was still just getting his bearings and wasn't very successful. At the time, he was drawing gekiga for 'Kannou Gekiga', but it seemed impossible for him to continue with that kind of style, so he later switched to gag manga.

I was also learning the basics of manga editing around that time, so I didn't do anything particularly impressive, and I would simply give orders like, "Housewife work, so-and-so pages." There were no detailed meetings and I simply relied on the artist, so the only skill I acquired was how to paste typesetting neatly (laughs). Typesetters in manga magazines generally used rubber cement, but the editor-in-chief of 'Kannou Gekiga' used cellophane tape. It wasn't even double-sided tape. He would cut some cellophane tape with one hand, roll it into a ball, and stick the makeshift double-sided tape on the back of the typesetting. It's not something to brag about, but the editors of ero-gekiga magazines had that kind of skill.

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'Kannou Gekiga' (1979 January Issue)

④New Wave Manga Magazine 'Peke' Launches at Minori Shobo



I started working as an editor on October 1st of my fourth year of university, and spent my days editing 'Kannou Gekiga' until around March of 1978. I feel I learned how to paste typesetting and how to specify orders. Then, about six months after I joined the company, 'OUT' was on track, so a plan to 'create a separate magazine with a manga focus' rose to the fore. There were several other young editors at 'OUT' besides me, but I, who happened to be at 'Kannou Gekiga', was put in charge of launching a new magazine called 'Monthly Peke' (月刊Peke) 'because this guy was more experienced at editing manga magazines'.

The catch-copy for 'Peke' was 'Dream and Romance SF Comics' (夢とロマンのSFコミックス), which was chosen by 'OUT' for 'Yamato', so the intention was to focus on SF, but to be honest, the contents were a bit hodgepodge. If I were to list its lineup, the first artist would be Hino Hideshi (日野日出志).

I had been in contact with Hino-Sensei since I was a student, and I ordered work from him as an extension of that. He used to live in Itabashi and I visited him when I was in university, but I was surprised at the short-haired, healthy-looking guy he was. I was a university student at the time, so I didn't go there to ask him to work for me, but I would often visit him after that. He hadn't made much money yet, and seemed to have a lot of free time, so when my friends were planning for Nakajima Miyuki's (中島みゆき) first recital in Tokyo, I asked him to draw a poster (laughs). He laughed and said, "I have so much free time, I play sandlot baseball." But when he left the room, his beautiful wife asked, "Will he be able to make it as a mangaka?" (Laughs). I didn't know how to answer a question from a university fan like that (laughs). So, he serialised a very powerful work called 'My Beloved Monster' (愛しのモンスター) in 'Peke', but I hadn't seen him ever since I became an ero-bookseller. Other artists I had draw included Kuwata Jirou (桑田二郎), who took the world by storm with 'Eight Man' (エイトマン), Seki Akira (関あきら) of 'Star Simac' (スター・シマック), and Ishikawa Jun (いしかわじゅん). Ishikawa felt like he slid straight from 'Kannou Gekiga' to 'Peke'.

Among these, Noguchi Masayuki (野口正之) was particularly noteworthy. He later took the world by storm as the Lolicon mangaka Uchiyama Aki (内山亜紀), but it was under me he made his debut. It was in this magazine he made his debut.

Noguchi Masayuki originally came to us as a submitter for a manga award 'OUT' did. His family owned a tonkatsu restaurant, and at the time, he lived on the second floor of a tonkatsu restaurant in Sugamo. Noguchi-kun was on this path from the very beginning, and he was good at drawing.

Then, by chance, I was able to launch a manga magazine, so I invited him to draw for me. This magazine was the catalyst for Noguchi Masayuki's big debut in a commercial magazine. There was also a female mangaka called Sabea Noma (さべあのま), who had only been drawing for doujinshi (Comiket) up until that point, but I helped her debut in a commercial magazine. And that was this magazine.

Also, Furukawa Masuzou (古川益三) was drawing for me. He's currently the president of Mandarake, but he was originally a Garo-type mangaka. This guy, as a mangaka, drew a great many works, but none of them sold well. I'm someone who knew Furukawa Masuzou as a mangaka. I really liked Furukawa Masuzou as a mangaka, so I asked him to draw for me.

Minori Shobo was originally a publishing company that didn't have any routes for mangaka other than ero-gekiga, so we had some freedom to do as we pleased, but I thought that if we were to do a magazine like this, then Azuma Hideo (吾妻ひでお) was the best choice.

Azuma Hideo debuted in the shounen magazine 'Weekly Shounen Champion' (週刊少年チャンピオン) with his serial 'Futari to Gonin' (ふたりと5人), but later moved to seinen magazines, where he would occasionally include his personal hobbies that didn't fit into the established structure and system of manga. So maniacs who read a lot of manga knew from the start that 'this guy likes SF', and Yonezawa-kun and I saw that from the very beginning. However, regular SF maniacs on the other hand didn't pay Azuma-san much attention, and he was just seen as another mangaka who drew children's manga or gag manga. So, when we decided to start this magazine, I went to Azuma-san and asked him right away, "Please draw an SF parody". I believe it was the first time Azuma-san had ever been asked to draw something like that, but from the beginning, we set the restriction that it should be an 'SF parody', and that's how the series 'Doudemo Inner Space' (どーでもいんなーすぺーす) began.

Well, the magazine itself only had six issues, so it was only a six-part series, but I believe this was the catalyst for the mangaka Azuma Hideo to become well-known among SF maniacs. Even examining Azuma-san's timeline, one can see his work changed significantly during this period. This was the trigger... or rather, it was mainly because he started working on projects related to 'Kisou Tengai' (奇想天外) after this, and he suddenly began to lean more and more towards work in that sort of maniac genre.

That's how I became involved with Azuma-san, and around the time that 'Peke' launched, 'OUT' also ran a small feature called 'A Thorough Analysis! The Mellow World of Azuma Hideo' (徹底大解剖!!吾妻ひでおのメロウな世界) (1978 August issue). This is that feature issue, but I'm quite forgetful, so I had completely forgotten about it.

However, the illustrations for the feature were drawn by Sabea Noma (before her professional debut) and the text was written by Ajima Shun (阿島俊) (Yonezawa Yoshihiro), so although I don't remember, this feature was actually done by me (laughs). I took Sabea Noma with me to Azuma-san's place to do some material gathering. Was Yonezawa-kun also there back then, I wonder? The reason Yonezawa-kun started visiting Azuma-san's place was probably because of this feature in OUT (Note 3).

I also went to Mizuki-san's place with Yonezawa-kun for the Kitaro feature in 'Peke' (1978 December issue). Since I was the editor-in-chief, I couldn't possibly handle all the details by myself. So I left all that sort of stuff to Yonezawa-kun. At the time, Yonezawa-kun had a number of friends around him, and when I dumped work on him, he managed to get it done. I was certain Yonezawa-kun could also handle this special feature by himself.

'Peke' inevitably ended with its 6th issue, but as a follow-up, 'Bessatsu Shinpyou: Third-rate Gekiga's World' (別冊新評・三流劇画の世界) (Shinpyousha) was released. This was because the mass media had taken notice of the special feature on third-rate gekiga I had done for 'Labyrinth', and features were also put together in 'Play Guide Journal' (プレイガイドジャーナル) (1978 August issue, Special Feature=Our Manga Part 3: 'Have you Seen Third-rate Gekiga?' [君は三流劇画を見たか] Edited by Labyrinth 78) and '11PM' (Yomiuri Television, Broadcast 1978 September 26th 'Our Contemporaries: The Leaders of Pink Gekiga' [われらが同時代人・ピンク劇画の主役たち]), 'Bessatsu Shinpyou' decided to do a special feature called 'Third-rate Gekiga's World' (三流劇画の世界), but it turned out to be nothing more than that. 'Ishii Takashi's World' (石井隆の世界) (1979 January) was selling well, so it was a project adding to that. Since there were no writers at all, they included well-known manga critics (Kajii Jun [梶井純] and Hashimoto Osamu [橋本治]) and most of the other miscellaneous articles were written by people connected to 'Labyrinth'. Those three were Yonezawa Yoshihiro, Kawamoto Kouji, and Aoba Igamaru (青葉伊賀丸) (Hashimoto Takaaki [橋本高明]). Aoba Igamaru was a man who hung out with Yonezawa-kun, and was still a student Meiji University at the time.

I left Minori Shobo around the time I worked on 'Third-rate Gekiga's World'. I wasn't fired, but I stepped down because 'Peke' didn't sell well. So, in the editor's note of the final issue, I said, "I'll never be published again." And apparently, I received 5,000 postcards saying, "Don't stop." (Laughs).

I don't really understand why 5,000 postcards came despite it not selling that well, but since I had declared I would no longer be publishing it, I couldn't publish it under the same name. However, 5,000 postcards came, so I decided to change the name to 'Monthly Comic Again' (月刊コミックアゲイン) and published it with a different editor. The contents of 'Again' were similar in parts to 'Peke', but since the editor is different, it's a completely different book. The editor was Suzuki Kiyozumi (鈴木清澄), who was involved with 'COM' and was much older than me. I had already left the company, but even after it became 'Again', I continued to work on manuscripts and edit as a subcontractor, and Yonezawa-kun also continued his work in 'Again'.

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'Peke' (1978 September Issue)

⑤Becoming the Editor-in-Chief of Japan's First Lolicon Magazine 'Shoujo Alice' under Alice Publishing



In the midst of all this, I left Minori Shobo and went to Alice Publishing. At the time, Alice Publishing was a publisher that made ero-books (vending machine books) specifically for vending machines. Among them, the ero-gekiga magazine 'Gekiga Alice' was quite well-known. The editor-in-chief there was a man called Kamewada Takeshi (亀和田武), who—for some unknown reason—would appear on the second page acting all high and mighty in every issue (laughs). Back then, he called himself the 'Julie of the ero-book industry'. He often appeared on television as a commentator, so many people probably know him, but I interacted with Kamewada Takeshi during a roundtable discussion for a special feature on third-rate gekiga. Around that time, Alice Publishing was looking for an editor, and the reason why they were looking for an editor, just between you and me, was that Kamewada Takeshi was so busy trying to get his name out there, he didn't do much work (laughs).

He often appeared in the mass media and worked hard to promote 'Gekiga Alice', but Alice Publishing's main business was graphic magazines with photographs, so gekiga magazines didn't make much money for them in the first place. However, he didn't come to the office very often and didn't do much work, so it seems Alice Publishing wanted to fire and replace Kamewada Takeshi as the editor. I didn't know anything about this, so I joined Alice Publishing thinking, "I'll be able to work for Kamewada, who I've known for a while." But Kamewada Takeshi was fired and replaced by me. And I thought, this is it. I originally started out as a manga editor, so I wanted to edit manga magazines. So, I was excited to be able to edit 'Gekiga Alice' the way I wanted, so I handed the editing of Gekiga Alice over to Yonezawa-kun (Labyrinth 79). 'Gekiga Alice' wasn't profitable for the company, so it was fine to outsource the work. Instead, the employees were given the task of working on more profitable projects, so I was put in charge of editing the graphic magazine, and through that I was put in charge of editing 'Shoujo Alice' (少女アリス).

'Shoujo Alice' was a magazine launched by the president of Alice Publishing (Komukai Hitomi [小向一実]). It was launched around June of 1979, and as part of the movement, 'Monthly Peke' was renewed to become 'Monthly Comic Again'. I joined Alice Publishing when the first issue of 'Shoujo Alice' was being produced. The president of Alice Publishing was the kind of man who would take models to the Fuji Five Lakes in the middle of the night and take photos in the sea of trees, even though he wasn't a photographer, and looking back, it was a crazy company. The cover had various names such as 'white underwear' and 'preteen', but this sense and the pompous logo were in the same style the president created back then. The title logo also had a completely different sense from mine. At first, the president took the photos himself and created the magazine, but he gradually became too busy, so I took over the editing partway through. I was in charge of making the early winter issue, but gradually it became too much for him, so I took over the editing partway through, starting with Vol.7. The magazine format follows the president's style, but from this issue onward, the cover was photographed by me.

Right when I was put in charge of editing 'Shoujo Alice', I immediately went to Azuma-san to ask him for a manuscript. Around this time, Azuma-san was working on 'Cybele', Japan's first Lolicon manga, but I don't know much about it. I wasn't involved, so I didn't really look into it. But I often heard from Yonezawa-kun that 'Azuma-san was doing that sort of thing'. Around this time, Yonezawa-kun was having Azuma-san do a serialisation for 'Gekiga Alice' (Lunatic [るなてっく]), so he would often visit Azuma-san's place. As a result, Yonezawa-kun told Azuma-san there was a place called Comiket where all sorts of doujinshi were sold, and apparently, he thought, "Well then, I shall try and make something." And he started working on 'Cybele'. I often heard that sort of story since then. I wanted Azuma-san to do something like that, not just for doujinshi, but for 'Shoujo Alice' as well, so I went to ask Azuma-san for a manuscript. However, when I went to ask, there wasn't much time left before the deadline, so he just so happened to have an old manuscript, and I managed to get by on reprinting it. When this work was published in Shoujo Alice, it was titled 'Gotagota Brothers' (ゴタゴタブラザース), but it was originally titled 'Gotagota Mansion' (ゴタゴタマンション) (First Published by 'Play Comic', 1974 August 24th issue, 'We Love Shoujo'). I don't really know why 'Mansion' became 'Brothers'.

You would think he would start in the form of a new serial from the 8th issue, but for some reason, the first serial started in 'Supplementary Shoujo Alice' (増刊少女アリス) (published around January of 1980). The first part was a work called 'Gogo no Inkou' (午後の淫荒) (Note 4).

On the preceding page, there was also a Shoujo photograph taken by someone called Mochizuki Hiroaki (望月博明). He was a photographer living in Fujinomiya City, Shizuoka Prefecture, who specialised in taking snapshots of Shoujo. I happened to see his photos in 'Camera Mainichi' (カメラ毎日) (Mainichi Shinbunsha), and since he was featured in a camera magazine, his photos were obviously great and had a really lyrical atmosphere. So I thought, "I'd like to do something along those lines." And I remember going out of my way to find his contact information and commission him to do work.

Regarding 'wanting to do something like Lolicon' in the media, I've always wanted to give it a try, and from the time I was working on 'Peke' at Minori Shobo, I had an editor's intuition Lolicon would be the next big thing. So, I moved to Alice Publishing and thought about what I could do within the framework of ero-books sold in vending machines, and ended up incorporating nude models over the age of 18 as 'Pseudo-Lolita', which at the time was called 'Shoujo-Stuff' (少女もの). The models were wearing sailor uniforms, but they weren't high schoolgirls or anything like that. I couldn't publish nude photos of minors, so I worked on 'Shoujo Alice' in the style of a general magazine, incorporating snapshots of girls and interspersing the rest with articles and manga.

The production costs per issue, including two photo shoots and an original manga by Azuma Hideo, was about 350,000 yen. Modelling fees were about 35,000 to 40,000 yen per shoot. At the time, I was always working on 4~5 magazines, so I had to do ten shoots per month. From those, I would choose two that fit the magazine's concept.

I did all the shooting, so I didn't have to pay any photographers. Usually, I would rent a room in a love hotel or studio, but I shot most of it in my own room, so the studio for that was free. My apartment was just two 4.5 tatami rooms, and I kept my work materials there, so it was convenient because I only had to bring the model. The cost of the shoot was just the model and film, which came to 70,000~80,000 yen per roll, and 120,000~130,000 yen for two rolls. At most, it was around 140,000~150,000 yen.

There were often two manga in 'Shoujo Alice', and Azuma-san's manuscript fee was 10,000 yen per page. The other's manuscript fee was cheaper, about 3,500 to 5,000 yen. Yonezawa-kun, Takatori Ei (高取英), and Aoba Igamaru were in charge of the articles. I also wrote various manuscripts, but since I was an employee, I didn't receive a single yen in manuscript fees. That's why the total production cost for a single issue was about 350,000 yen. The manuscript fee was low, but the workload was extremely high, and at the busiest of the month, I produced 10 magazine issues, all by myself. I don't remember the details anymore, since I was working under those conditions. I feel bad for the Sensei, asking for manuscripts so carelessly, only telling them the number of pages. Azuma-san was a major artist, so he apparently received some pretty harsh words (from Akita Shoten) (for drawing ero-manga for a vending machine book).

Returning to the topic of Azuma-san, his serialisation began with the special issue, but by the 10th issue, it seems he dropped the ball on his manuscript, so Muraso Shun'ichi (村祖俊一) had to fill in. The deadline was pushed forward because the manuscript was printed in two colours, so perhaps it wasn't completed in time, but he was still drawing it. The deadline was pushed forward because the manuscript was printed in two colours (Note 5).

This series was later collected into a tankoubon called 'Hizashi' (陽射し) (Kisou Tengaisha, 1981). It was what would be called the 'Pure Literature Series', but it didn't have that name when it was serialised (Note 6). But the content is quite pure literature-style. I don't remember exactly, but I believe when I went to ask Azuma-san for the manuscript, I asked him, "Please draw a Bishoujo work. Something like pure literature". So, part of this series was created without any commercial framework.

This series continued until Alice Publishing split up in August of 1980. Ultimately, the 15th issue was the last of 'Shoujo Alice' I worked on. Azuma-san's manuscript, as expected, couldn't be typesetted in time, so all the lines were handwritten. Azuma-san's manga is usually typesetted, so handwritten lines were quite rare in commercial magazines. I thought this will be typesetted when it becomes a tankokubon. I left Alice Publishing with this issue, so this marked the end of my ties with Azuma-san and his serial work.

After that, while I was trying to somehow get Lolicon-type stuff onto a commercial base, the one that sold relatively well was the 'Lolicon Complete Works' (ロリコン大全集) (Edited and Published by Gunyusha Publishing, released by Toshi to Seikatsusha, 1982 March). It was a pretty desperate book, but the contents weren't that extreme. There was definitely something like a 'Lolicon Boom', but the contents of the book were mostly illustrations, articles, manga, and essays, and there weren't that many photos. So, I asked Azuma-san to draw a colour manuscript, saying 'it will be this sort of project', and the result was the work 'No Duty Black Sun: Lolicon Edition' (仁義なき黒い太陽・ロリコン編).

This was an incredible piece of work, very impressive. The tankoubon wasn't in colour, but monochrome, but the original was in a large-format colour manuscript, and it was very impressive. All the characters were based on real people, and I also appear towards the end, but I got killed off shortly thereafter (laughs). It was first published in 1982, so by the time 'Cybele' had become very popular, 'Lolicon' was experiencing a big boom in the manga world. But that guy ran away when society made a fuss and it became a boom. He was quite stubborn, or rather, he always had that side to him. So, I believe that's why even though it was for the 'Lolicon Complete Works', he drew a work that featured only Lolicons, without any girls, as a form of harassment, but it was a masterpiece.

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Azuma Hideo's 'Gogo no Inkou' Manuscript (Supplementary Shoujo Alice 1980 January Issue)

⑥Why Azuma Hideo is a Genius



To be honest, I wasn't an editor for very long. I launched 'Peke' in 1978, left Minori Shobo in 1979, moved to Alice Publishing, and after it split up in the summer of 1980, I worked at Gunyusha from 1982 to 1983 where I produced the 'Lolicon Complete Works. I had only been an editor for about 5 years.

However, an editor has a lot of discretion, and especially for a small publisher, you were told to 'create one book' and had to fill dozens to hundreds of pages within a small budget. So, when deciding who to place an order, I've always worked hand in hand with Yonezawa-kun. For example, I was in charge of the commercial parts, like showing photos of naked girls, and for the other parts, I made full use of Yonezawa-kun's network and Azuma-san's connections I've built as a manga editor.

In the midst of such a hectic editing life, there were some parts where I asked Azuma-san to do something that was difficult for me, but it's not like I had any regular contact with Azuma-san.

However, when I think of 'Azuma Hideo' as a person, I consider him an artist who combines the styles of Tezuka Osamu (手塚治虫) and the seriousness of Tsuge Yoshiharu (つげ義春). You could call him 'Garo-ish/COM-ish', but he's a rare artist who possesses both sides into one.

Mangaka of this generation in particular tend to fall neatly into one style or the other, but Azuma-san possessed both. In that sense, I believe he's a true genius.

I believe one proof of his genius is that he always starts with self-denial. He debuted as a shounen mangaka, and worked within that style, but then he self-denied that style and shifted to seinen gekiga magazines. Then, for a while, he did shoujo manga, and while working within that framework, he always lived his life breaking that framework, slowly but surely releasing SF parodies and other hobby-like works here and there. When I noticed that and said, "Please draw that as the main focus." At first he was amused and worked hard at it, but once it was well-received and he started to be treated like a god in that world, he probably felt uncomfortable, so he started to break that framework once again. In that way, he always lived his life denying who he had been up until then. I believe that's what makes him so impressive.

I saw his face for the first time in a long while recently during an Azuma Hideo special feature in 'Bungei Bessatsu' (文藝別冊), and was surprised to see he had grown into a handsome geezer, like a Chicago bluesman. I believe he is truly an impressive artist.


⑦The Uniqueness of First Generation Otaku


The schedule column of the handout says 'Title TBD: Sagawa Toshihiko Talk Event' (タイトル未定・佐川俊彦トークイベント), but Sagawa was a contemporary of Yonezawa-kun and mine during our days at 'Labyrinth' and Comiket.

Among the 'Labyrinth' members who gathered at Baraen, there were guys who were two or three years older than us, and they were Harada Teruo (原田央男), who founded Comiket, and Aniwa Jun (亜庭じゅん). Harada-san was a civil servant at Urawa (Note 7), and Anijun was an employee of Toho's public relations department, so they started out as working adults.

However, Sagawa-kun jumped straight into the industry as a part-timer at the homo-magazine 'Sabu' (さぶ). After that, he created 'JUNE' (Sun Publishing), the founding magazine of the decadent Aesthetic genre, or what we would now call Yaoi, and from what I hear, he would go to gay artists to get manuscripts and be told told things like, "You've got a nice butt." (Note 8).

As a matter of fact, I also started out as an editor of an ero-gekiga magazine, but didn't reach the level of Yonezawa-kun, who never even entered the workforce (laughs).

It was around the time Comiket started to grow so big that Harada-san, a civil servant, was no longer able to handle it. Civil servants had more free time than regular private servants, so even if he could manage with his spare time at first, he couldn't keep up as the scale expanded. Comiket is a good example of this, as soon as it became too much to handle, Harada-san, the civil servant, stepped down and Yonezawa-kun became the organiser.

A similar case would be the internet bulletin board '2-Channel' (2ちゃんねる), which was created by the bored university student 'Hiroyuki' (ひろゆき). '2-Channel' emerged from a bulletin board called 'Amezou' (あめぞう), but 'Amezou' was also run by a civil servant.

Inevitably, 'Amezou' was plagued by frequent vandalism and other troubles, and the site's administrator abandoned the site, saying, "I can't possibly manage a message board while working as a civil servant." And so, '2-Channel' quickly took the position of 'Amezou' and rose to prominence.

In that sense, Harada-san and Anijun's generation still had the mindset of first entering the workforce and then pursuing what they enjoyed in the world of hobbies, but for my generation, Yonezawa-kun and Sagawa-kun, the order was reversed. We believed that entering the workface is a prerequisite for being in an environment where we could do what we liked, the way we like.

So, I joined a minor ero-book publisher, and even before I graduated from university, I was called an 'editor-in-chief' and started creating books as I pleased.

I was also one of those who started my life in the workforce with that sort of feeling. I started writing Kannou novels from around 1982, and made a living as a novelist for a while, though I started slacking off on novels recently and completely washed my feet of the publishing industry. These days, I sell T-shirts, run a company, and operate a website called 'Net Guerrilla', which garners around 3 million hits a month. Well, that's the story of my younger days.

Net Guerrilla.jpg

Right: Kawamoto Kouji (Net Guerrilla)

Q: About Editing 'Peke'


Kawamoto:
While it's a little early, I'll accept any questions you may have.

Audience 1: 'Kannou Gekiga' seems like an amount of work that could pretty much be edited by a single person, but what about 'Peke'?

Kawamoto: In the case of 'Peke', I was the editor-in-chief, but there was another editor called Daitoku Tesuo-kun (大徳哲雄). But the contents were almost entirely decided upon by me.

With a magazine, basically one person does the plan and cuts the layout, so it might be different at a big publisher, but with a small publisher, if one person doesn't take final responsibility, no one else will, so I believe it's basically something that's done by one person. During 'Comic Again', Nakahara Kenichi-kun (中原研一) (aka Ooyama Gina [大山金太]) was the editor, but the main was someone called Suzuki Kiyozumi (鈴木清澄), who was older.


Q: Is Kawamoto-san a Lolicon?


Audience 2:
Kawamoto-san has been creating Lolicon books for quite some time, but is Kawamoto-san a Lolicon? (Venue Bursts into Laughter) Was it a personal hobby, or did you make them because you were jumping on a trend and thought they would sell?

Kawamoto: The biggest reason...... In Japan's case, there's a law that prohibits taking nude photos of girls under the age of 18, and even in the past, there was a Child Welfare Act, which meant nude photos of minors could not be sold as products. In this environment, a famous cameraman called Kenmochi Kazuo (剣持加津夫) released Japan's first nude photobook of a girl called 'Europe: 12 Year-old Mythology (エウロペ・12歳の神話) in the context of what they called serious photography (artistic photography).

Afterwards, artistic Shoujo nudes taken by a Kyoto noble, a family of noble lineage, called Kiyooka Sumiko (清岡純子) began to appear here and there, and this trend coincided with the time when I became an editor.

In that sort of environment, I started thinking Lolicon may also be a possibility in publishing. Not limited to photographs, but also manga. Back then, when it came to erotica in manga, it was third-rate gekiga. Meaning, there was nothing but ero-gekiga. If someone said ero, they meant 'gekiga' and there was no such thing as 'manga ero'. However, ero is an emotion all humans possess equally, so I thought it was strange it was confined to the narrow world of 'third-rate gekiga'. What I mean in particular is ero in a Tezuka-style, and to a certain extent, I saw Lolicon as one of those possibilities.

Well, I may sound big-headed, but in the end, editors will leap towards anything that will sell, but among them, I can say for certain I did believe, "Lolicon may grow in the future."

So, I started sowing the seeds early, but I happened to be in the vending machine book industry, and no matter how many vinyl books or vending machine books I produced at those sorts of underground publishing companies, it wasn't an environment where I could create books that would be sold in bookstores through Tounippan*. And so my dream of 'making money in that world' was ultimately dashed.
※Tounippan is an abbreviation of the two major publishers in Japan, Touhan (東販) and Nippan (日販).


Q: What is the Peak of the Vending Machine Book Boom?


Audience 3:
Could you tell us how many other magazines were competing among vending machine books, and how long did this continue as a boom?

Kawamoto: The timeline says, "1980 August, Alice Publishing split up." But this was exactly the mature stage of vending machine books. August of 1980 was the month I left Alice Publishing. Issue 15 of 'Shoujo Alice', the last issue I worked on at Alice Publishing, sold around 51,000 copies despite having a budget of 350,000 yen. It couldn't get any happier than this (※A simple calculation, assuming each issues costs 400 yen, would mean 20.4 million in sales).

As 'the sole researcher in Japan of early vinyl books, mail-order books, and vending machine books', I have done a lot of research, and since this is something I experienced in real time, I can say this with near certainty.

The reason why this book sold 51,000 copies was because a vending machine book distributor called 'Tokyo Magazine Sales' (東京雑誌販売) (Note 9) owned 8,000 vending machines across Japan.

The reason why Alice Publishing split up in the midst of all that was because the PTA was making a big fuss and they couldn't increase the number of vending machines any further. However, the company had already purchased a great number of vending machines, so they made a secret deal with the PTA where they said, "Let us sell them until we regain what we put in." Meaning, when the vending machines reached the end of their service life (depreciation), they wouldn't be replaced with new machines, and the number of machines would then plummet. Since this was obvious, Alice Publishing split up.

Ero-booksellers were a truly unfortunate business. Just like during the vinyl book boom, amateurs kept entering the business because it looked like it would be 'profitable'. Because it looks profitable to outsiders, others—not knowing about the internal conditions—also entered the business one after the other. At first, they didn't know how far they could go before they get caught, so they went at it with all their might. Once they get caught, they learn their lesson. The first time is known in the industry as 'Uraomote' (裏表), and at first, they would get fined. After 21 days of detention, they would be released with a suspended sentence, but are threatened that 'a 2nd offence would spell jailtime', and that's when everyone wakes up. Others keep entering the business, and at first, they push forward fearlessly, but once they get bit once, they learn their lesson. Conversely, no one learns until they get bit. It's that kind of world.

I'll go ahead and talk about the history of vending machine books. Vending machine porno first appeared in 1973~1974 when a delicacy manufacturer began selling a snack called 'Tuna-pico' (ツナピコ) in vending machines in Yaizu and Shimizu, Shizuoka. Tuna-pico was tuna cut into cubes and seasoned with soy sauce, and it was first sold as a drinking snack. It came in a vinyl pack around B5 size, and was sold next to One Cup Ozeki (ワンカップ大関). It sold very well. Back then, there were no convenience stores open late at night, so people would buy Tuna-pico when they went out to buy alcohol in the middle of the night. A stand operator called Nakajima Kimitoshi (中島規美敏) was looking at this and thought, "Perhaps I could sell a side-dish of a different meaning." In other words, vending machine pornos started from the idea of 'selling night-time side-dishes from a vending machine'.

The reason vending machine books were B5 size was because they were using vending machines that sold B5 packs of Tuna-pico. Originally, vinyl books were also B5 size, but when vending machines started to be mass-produced, vinyl books were changed to A4 size along the way. This is also for a simple reason; B5 would be mistaken for a vending machine book. Vending machine books cost 500 yen, but vinyl books cost around 1,000 yen. If they were mistaken for a 500 yen vending machine book, they would look overpriced and wouldn't sell.

Then, around 1976, the vinyl/vending machine book boom began all at once to grow.

They've now grown into huge publishers, but back then, there was a company called 'Self Publishing', who later changed their name to 'Byakuya Shobo', and its ero-book division spun off into 'Core Magazine'. The founder, Morishita Shintarou-san (森下信太郎), originally worked in sales at 'Matsuo Shobo', a mail-order vinyl book publisher, but after learning the know-how there, he went independent as an ero-bookseller and created a company called 'Green Kikaku' that specialised in vinyl books. That company created 'Self Publishing' and 'Byakuya Shobo' in order to get an account with Tounippan, and push their books into bookstores. That was around 1976.

In that sense, 1976 was a very important year in the history of graphic-type ero-books. Well, this is off topic, so I'll save it for another time.

Audience 4: Question. Kawamoto-san, you've shifted from third-rate gekiga to Lolicon. Ero-manga used to only be gekiga. Afterwards, with Azuma-san's works and 'Lemon People' (レモンピープル), there was a shift towards Tezuka-style art, but as a creator, could you tell us how you feel about this change in style?

Kawamoto: Business-wise, I believe the popularity of Noguchi Masayuki (Uchiyama AKi) was big. Noguchi-kun started by bringing his work to 'OUT' and for a while, he was drawing for that sort of magazine at a tremendous pace. So, commercially speaking, Uchiyama Aki had a greater presence than Azuma Hideo (Note 10).

Nevertheless, manga has both a 'side as an expression' and a 'side as a business', so it's not a question of which is more or less important.

Moderator: Does anyone have any other questions?

Kawamoto: Takekuma-san* is right there (laughs).
※Takekuma Kentarou (竹熊健太郎) (Wiki)

Takekuma:
Well, I don't have anything in particular to talk about (laughs).

Moderator: In any case, let's talk about your relationship (laughs).

Takekuma: I came here as a regular audience member today, but Kawamoto-san is speaking as the guest. I also began my career at Alice Publishing, so I read these books in real time.

Kawamoto: Takekuma-san joined (through a contract) after I left Alice Publishing.

Takekuma: It was around the time Kawamoto-san moved to Gunyusha, so we missed each other. I was editing a vending machine book called 'Shoujo Gekisha' (少女激写) at Alice Publishing. I believe (the first president) Komukai-san started that.

Kawamoto: No, I believe 'Shoujo Gekisha' was started by someone related to 'Doyou Manga' (土曜漫画) (Note 11).

Takekuma: 'Doyou'? I mentioned the name of the ero-bookseller-san back then, but Kawamoto-san was my senior at Alice Publishing. There's a 7 year age difference between us.

I was studying at the Kuwasawa Design School back then, but dropped out after a year and joined Alice Publishing (through a contract) in 1980. The three of us—Kanzaki Mugen (神崎夢現), Fujiwara Kamui (藤原カムイ), and I—sat at desks next to each other and made ero-books. The key point is that the code of art-styles changed dramatically during this period, and at the same time, New Wave began with 'Peke' in 1978. There was a time when people with strong artistic talent, like Ootomo Katsuhiro (大友克洋), Takano Fumiko (高野文子), and Sabea Noma (さべあのま) emerged, and magazines sold well because of the strength of their talent. This movement is entirely intertwined with the vending machine book boom.

Kawamoto: Sabea Noma, Takano Fumiko, and Saimon Fumi (柴門ふみ). They were all women, but they didn't start out in shoujo manga, so they weren't called 'shoujo mangaka'. Back then, they were called 'female mangaka' (女流漫画家).

Takekuma: Also, Yamada Futaba-san (山田双葉) (aka Yamada Eimi [山田詠美]), who is currently retired as a mangaka. She's now a big artist. She's famous as a female novelist, but she was originally part of the Meiji University manga research club, and made her debut with her real name, Yamada Futaba, in 'Manga Erogenica'. She also released a tankoubon, but it didn't sell very well. However, for a woman, she drew some rather extreme sexual depictions in ero-books. I remember her drawing manga for ero-books like those released by Alice Publishing.

Kawamoto: Not only did she draw ero-books, but she also posed for them under the name Yamada Futaba. If you go to Sanwa Publishing, you'll find a mountain of her (photo) positives.

Takekuma: And following this trend, 'Lemon People' was released in the 1980s.

Kawamoto: 'Lemon People' sold quite well because Noguchi-kun was the signboard artist. Also, it had Senno Knife (千之ナイフ) among others.

Takekuma: I believe 'Lemon People' was the first proper commercially available Lolicon manga magazine, rather than a vending machine book. Shortly afterwards, Self Publishing (now Byakuya Shobo) released Manga Burikko (漫画ブリッコ), and that's when I became involved with 'Burikko' (through Kamui's introduction). Even though it was an ero-book, Fujiwara Kamui, when he was a newbie, and Okazaki Kyouko (岡崎京子) were drawing for it, and I was serialising 'Fuun Lion Newspaper' (風雲ライオン新聞) as a successor to Nakamori Akio's (中森明夫) '<Otaku> research' (〈おたく〉の研究).

Kawamoto: 'Burikko' was done by Ogata*. Originally, Ogata was working in the editorial department at 'Fusion Product' (ふゅーじょんぷろだくと), but I poached him for Gunyusha, and turned him into an ero-bookseller.
※Ogata Katsuhiro (小形克宏)

Takekuma:
Around that time, Ootsuka Eiji-san (大塚英志) was doing his apprenticeship as an editor at Tokuma Shoten, and was working with Ogata on a Lolicon magazine project. Back then, 'Fusion Product' was also editing a Lolicon-type anthology (Fusion Product 'Lolicon Haskusho' [ロリコン白書] Byakuya Shobo/1982 July).

Kawamoto: I was also involved with 'Fusion Product'. I forget how we first became acquainted, but I was writing shoujo manga reviews there. I did a Freudian interpretation of Yoshida Akimi's (吉田秋生) 'California Story' (カリフォルニア物語).

Takekuma: If I start talking about this topic, there'll be no end to it, but this period was extremely important, not only in the history of manga, but also the history of subculture. However, there are almost no records about it.

I also wrote reports on the trends of Alice Publishing and Gunyusha in 'Quick Japan' (クイック・ジャパン) (Ohta Publishing) a long time ago, and there were vending machine books called 'Jam' and 'HEAVEN' (Note 12) with their crazy editorial policies that were legendary in the subculture world, and I mainly worked on those. In the end, my reports were finished halfway, but if I had a little more time, I was planning to compile everything, including Kawamoto-san's works.

Kawamoto: But business-wise, what I was doing was mainstream, so I believe 'Jam' and 'HEAVEN' were more of a hobby.

Takekuma: Yeah. There was a famous president called Akashi Kensei (明石賢生) (Note 13). He already passed away, but I believe it was mostly his hobby. I think he was a former Zenkyoto. Back then, many ero-bookseller-san managers were former Zenkyoto members, and Kamewada-san was also Zenkyoto. Ero-booksellers were places where people, unable to find decent work because of their violence during the 1970 Security Treaty protests, ended up.

Kawamoto: Otherwise, they would be like Terayama Shuuji (寺山修司).

Takekuma: Takatori-san is just like Terayama. Intellectual and bohemian. Not yakuza, but basically intellectuals who went astray, or people who couldn't get decent jobs because of the student movement, ended up as ero-booksellers, forming the strange world of vending machine books. That's how 'Jam' and 'HEAVEN' came about, and 'Jam' did an absurd project where they staked out in front of Yamaguchi Momoe's (山口百恵) home and collected all the trash that had been thrown out, and featured it in a double-page photo spread. They started working in that sort of anarchic world, and that's how they ended up becoming these sorts of people (laughs). Kawamoto-san still runs an extremely radical blog called 'Net Guerrilla', and has become famous in the online world. A while ago, I revealed on my blog that 'Net Guerrilla's true identity is Kawamoto Kouji', and it turned into a big topic. I can feel the soul of his time as an ero-book editor in Net Guerrilla.

Kawamoto: Well, what I'm doing isn't that much different from vending machine books.

Takekuma: Returning to the topic, the art style of ero-manga changed drastically from gekiga to anime-style in about 3 years. It's a memorable event even now.

Kawamoto: I believe I was quite early, the first, to sniff out Lolicon making for good material, but all the delicious parts got snatched up by other businesses.

Takekuma: Ero-bookseller-sans don't have much money, so they have the advantage of being able to do things early when they come up with ideas, but it's difficult for them to spend capital to advertise and establish a business. Without capital, there's nothing you can do.

Kawamoto: I've produced quite a few photobooks, but none of them ended up being a success. The one who really made money was ◯◯◯-kun. He's published about 100 photobooks.

Since we're sitting here like this, I'll let you know, but there's a famous shopping centre called 'Night Bazaar' (ナイトバザール), and if you go down into their basement, there's a store selling souvenirs from ethnic minorities. The old guy there...... (Kera Note: the following several hundred characters have been deleted due to being dangerous content.)

When we got off, there were about 20 girls riding in the back of the truck. The youngest were 4 years old, and the oldest were no older than 12. When I asked them, "What's happening here?" They said they had gone to a Lisu (リス族) village and brought back all the children. The scary thing is that the Lisu didn't have any family registers, so it's unknown how old they were.

Takekuma: Uwa—hh. Well, I guess that also goes to show that up until a specific point, underage nudes were OK even in Japan.

Kawamoto: Rather than being legal, there were no laws against them.

Takekuma: When I was in high school, Sawatari Hajime-san (沢渡朔) released a photobook called 'Shoujo Alice' (少女アリス) (Kawade Shobo Shinsha, 1973), and it had photos of bare slits in it. When I heard it showed the girl's slit, even though she was underage, I bought it at the bookstore even though I'm not a Lolicon. The list price was 2,800 yen back then, which was expensive, but back then, the only photos you could get a clear view of female genitalia were only Shoujo photos. I was very shocked it was OK if it's an underage slit without hair. For me, 'Shoujo Alice' was the start of all that.

Kawamoto: That's likely true given Takekuma-kun's age.

Takekuma: Also, when I was in elementary school, there was a photo of a slit in a thick family-oriented medical book. The photo showed a girl with a strange skin disease on her stomach and her lower half completely exposed, and her slit was also exposed, so I got excited when I saw it.

Kawamoto: Kenmochi-san started earlier than Sawatari-san, but his work was a pure photobook, in addition to being monochrome, so it didn't garner as much attention. However, despite his work being a pure photobook and monochrome, '12 Year-old Mythology' was advertised from a train's hanger-on, and since the model used that train to commute to school, it apparently became the topic of conversation even at the school.

Takekuma: That's horrible (laughs).

Meanwhile, manga was in the era of gekiga right up until the late 1970s. Gekiga was at its peak, and back then, 'Saint Muscle' (聖マッスル) was serialised in 'Magazine' (マガジン) and only featured grotesque and sordid musclemen in the buff (laughs).

Kawamoto: It was also the heyday of Ishii Takashi. Ero-manga back then were quite mature technically, and there was a kind of syntax that made it feel as if the idea that 'ero=gekiga' immediately sprang to mind.

Takekuma: Back then, there were a lot of gekiga-style sex scenes where the men and women were covered in sweat. They would draw very detailed drawings of men and women entangled in sweat in a four-and-a-half tatami room with no air conditioning (laughs).

After Azuma Hideo started drawing for the vending machine books published by Alice Publishing, the mainstream of ero-manga began to change all at once. I believe the tide shifted drastically around 1979, when the Lolicon doujinshi 'Cybele' was published at Comiket. I remember it well because I was in high school back then, but there was an anime boom that began with the Yamato Boom, and suddenly a lot of anime and manga research clubs were formed. And then the style of ero-manga began to change dramatically.

I started getting involved in 'Burikko' from 1983, but 'Burikko' itself was released around 1982, and Minami Shinbou-san (南伸坊) drew the covers at first.

As the background, Ogata was in the editorial department of 'Fusion Product' in 1982, and he met Ootsuka Eiji, who was in the editorial department of 'Ryuu' (リュウ) and they came up with a plan to create a new manga magazine, but around this time, 'Fusion Product' was creating a Lolicon-type anthology, but the magazine never got made (※This is the Lolicon-type doujinshi anthology 'Lolicon Hakusho' released by Byakuya Shobo in 1982. Ogata Katsuhiro edited it under the name 'Fusion Product').

So, when Ogata took his plan to Self-Publishing (now Byakuya Shobo), it just so happened a third-rate gekiga magazine called 'Burikko' wasn't selling at all, so they said, "It's a magazine that's going to go out of business anyway, so go ahead and do what you like with it." And he turned 'Burikko' into a Lolicon magazine which sold out completely (Note 14).

Back then, 'Lemon People' became a point of conversation, and Ootsuka-san and Ogata-san were strongly influenced by New Wave comics, so they were selling themselves as 'Lolicon', but they were mainly New Wave, employing artists like Fujiwara Kamui, and Okazaki Kyouko, and unlike regular ero-manga, they only used people with strong artistic personalities.

In those days, ero-books were free to do whatever they wanted within a budget. They couldn't spend a lot of money, but they could do anything. Especially vending machine magazines; anything was fine so long as the cover was good.

Kawamoto: To briefly explain how vending machine books are made, the same title is written on both sides of the cover. One cover shows underwear, but the other does not. This is actually an important point. If the cover was erotic, there would be a limit to the number of vending machines it could be placed inside, so they had to use the soft cover on the front in order to get it into as many vending machines as possible.

For example, for vending machines near schools, they would put the soft cover out front. On the other hand, for vending machines in places that are difficult to see, or where the display case is covered with foil during the day, they would put the cover that shows the underwear out front. Also, when books are lined up in several layers, the bottom of the covers get hidden, so in this case, even if the cover shows underwear, it could still be used as a soft cover so long as the bottom part was hidden.

Takekuma: It's not good if the vending machine is in a residential area. But if it's out in the mountains or in the middle of a rice paddy, it's fine to have something that indecent.

Kawamoto: Right, right.

Takekuma: I once brought a magazine to Touzatsu (Tokyo Magazine Sales [東京雑誌販売]), and I believe at a normal publishing company, they would check the contents. But the staff only checked the cover. In front of vending machines, all you can see is the cover, so as long as the cover looked like it would sell, it didn't matter what was inside. It didn't matter if there were mathematical formulas or a row of numbers representing pi inside. It was a medium that was pretty chaotic. Media like that doesn't exist these days.

Kawamoto: Well, it does online. The internet. Anything's OK on the internet.

Takekuma: Back then, content that couldn't be written anywhere except online was enough to make money. The manuscript fee was low, but if you think about it now, it was a luxury.

Kawamoto: Up until then, doujinshi was a world where you worked hard cutting out mimeographs to create your own books, and if you sold 100 copies at 200 yen a copy for 20,000 yen, you'd finally make back what you put in. When we started doing the same thing with vending machine books, a printer bound the books and you would get a salary. It really felt like that.

Takekuma: So, we printed hundreds of thousands—no, tens of thousands. When Kamui, Mugen, and I did 'Shoujo Gekisha' around 1981, we printed around 35,000 copies. We had already passed our peak by then and sales dropped, but we still printed a lot. We did whatever we wanted, and vending machine books were a medium for the younger generation of editors like Kamewada-san and Kawamoto-san to put their own hobbies to the forefront and get their favourite artists to illustrate them. That's why he lured Azuma-san into the world of vending machine books at a time when ero-manga equals gekiga.

Azuma-san's art style was Tezuka's style, which was the polar opposite of gekiga. Tezuka's era was overwhelmingly dominant for a while after the war, but it then became the gekiga era, and until the late 1970s, gekiga was overwhelmingly the mainstream of commercial manga, apart from shoujo manga. Then, around 1978, the trend changed dramatically. Azuma-san was the symbol of that change.

Kawamoto: What's truly amazing about Azuma-san is that while his art style is Tezuka-esque, the content of his art is Tsuge Yoshiharu-esque.

Takekuma: His base qualities are similar to Tsuge, but his art was in the style of Tezuka.

Up until a certain point, everyone thought, "It wasn't possible to draw ero in a Tezuka-esque rounded art style." Tezuka himself, and others, had a huge complex about not being able to draw adult women. Mushi Pro's (虫プロ) animated feature film 'Animerama' (アニメラマ) is a good example; Cleopatra (1970, Mushi Pro) wasn't drawn by Tezuka-san. The characters were drawn by Kojima Koo (小島功). It was believed that if Tezuka-san designed it, it would look childish and not erotic, so they specifically asked Kojima Koo to draw the female characters. Meaning, it was that sort of period. Naturally, no one thought, "I'll draw ero with Tezuka's art."

In such a period, Azuma Hideo suddenly started drawing erotic worlds in a Tezuka-type art style. And he did so in doujinshi and vending machine books.

Kawamoto: That's true, but I also think what's truly amazing about Azuma-san was his willingness to try new things regardless of profitability. After all, if he just stuck to the routine of what he'd built up until then, he wouldn't go hungry. He made his debut in shounen manga, and although he wouldn't have gone hungry if he'd kept that routine, he went out of his way to go into seinen gekiga. Then he gets praised for his SF parodies, and is then worshipped like a god in that genre. He should've just quietly become a god, but instead he went in a completely strange direction with stuff like doujinshi. He always starts from self-denial and asks, "What can I do?" Then he disappears and goes into pipes (Note 15).

Takekuma: Tsuge-san was also like that, he's what you would call the artistic type. People like that have a very tough time in the world of commercial manga.

Kawamoto: In the world of commercial manga, there's no custom of evaluating or recognising that part. There's no room for people to simply accept, "That person is an artist, so it cannot be helped." People are judged solely on whether or not they're profitable commercially.

Takekuma: Even when I talk to editors of commercial magazines, those types of minor, maniac things don't sell, so they don't release them no matter what. In the end, it comes down to whether 'It Does/Doesn't Sell'. I started out with doujinshi and vending machine books, so I have a strong sense of my own hobbies, and all sorts of hobby-related things always come up.

Kawamoto: In my opinion, with the internet overflowing with information, if you were to ask, "Which publishers will survive?" The only ones who will survive will be the ones who create because they truly love what they created.

Takekuma: I also think so. Ultimately, the era of thinking about manga in terms of mass sales may be coming to an end.

The publishing world is having a hard time right now because of the earthquake and the nuclear power plant disaster. Even the printing company in Tohoku recovering from the disaster were like, "The fluorescent pink ink has disappeared." When I spoke to someone at K-sha, they said the upper management is thinking, "We've secured all the paper we'll be using until the end of the year, so we'll be fine." But when I asked, "What will you do next year?" They answered, "Well, we haven't thought about that." They seem to believe the factory in Tohoku will have recovered by next year and they'll be fine. But that might not actually be the case, and when I talked to the young people who frequent Kodansha, they said things like, "The era of paper magazines may be over."

So, all the print magazines are being digitally published, and it's the paper tankoubon that are making money. I predicted for some time that while people would continue to save manuscripts and release paper books, they would eventually do it in a hybrid form with digital publishing. What do you think about that?

Kawamoto: Japanese manga basically doesn't express everything in a world of black and white. There are no halftones. There are parts which are created based on the complete simplification of black and white digital symbols. If it were to be expressed online from the beginning, I'm sure those sorts of restrictions wouldn't be an issue.

Takekuma: If they release their work online, colour would be easier to read, and the black and white constraint wouldn't matter. Also, when scrolling through manga online, you lose the feeling of flipping through the pages.

Kawamoto: It'll be picture story show style, where you click on one picture and it goes to the next one.

Takekuma: Publishers are interested in digital publishing, but it's hard to make a profit selling just data online. Magazines are in the red, so in the end, the only option is to create and sell paper books.

Kawamoto: If you go by single artists, if their art is appealing, I believe they could make a living just from selling goods. For example, if they're at the level of Azuma-san or Hirata Hiroshi (平田弘史), I believe they could make a living from selling goods even if they don't sell a single book. Like a Hirata Hiroshi dakimakura (laughs).

Takekuma: Right now, publishers control all the financial flow, and the business model of selling paper books is well-established, so it's not easy for them to change their structure. But more and more people are publishing their works on Pixiv and gaining popularity, and the idea of composing manga in double-page spreads is gradually disappearing. Even Pixiv only displays 1 page at a time. Meaning, the syntax of manga is changing.

I believe in the future, it will be common to simultaneously release English, Chinese, and other oversea versions. Publishers only think about paper books, but if they want to sell in various forms, including goods, I believe they'll need a more comprehensive agent.

Kawamoto: Even in the world of American comics, there are guys like Frank Frazetta who only draw covers. He can get a million yen in royalties for just one cover, so he draws only three covers a year, and just plays around the rest of the time.

Takekuma: Right, right. I believe the scope of work available to mangaka will change significantly in the future. If they start selling original art and turn that into a business, publishing companies will have more than just in-house editors, they'll have people like producers who can make individual contracts with mangaka to do a much wider range of work.

Kawamoto: In that sense, Azuma-san started out as an assistant to Itai Rentarou (板井れんたろう), and departed from the 'manga origin' of shounen manga to quite amazing places as an artist.

Takekuma: If he had been hooked up with a more capable producer and been able to get more work that would make the most of his talents, things may have turned out differently.

Kawamoto: I would be curious if there's someone who can work in the palm of a producer's hand (laughs).

Takekuma: Yeah, I see what you mean. I mean, manga has always been a form of expression with many diverse possibilities, but commercial publishers today view it as a business within a very narrow field. In contrast, everyone does what they want in online communities and Comiket.

Kawamoto: In-house editors are, after all, salaried workers, so they want to play it safe and avoid blunders. They have a strong desire to create within a certain framework and feel safe within it. So, they say things like 'shounen manga is like this', or 'we have this sort of framework, so please work within it'.

Takekuma: Of course, there are incredibly talented people within that sort of framework, but the moment they step outside them, some don't know what to do anymore. In those situations, I believe people like Kawamoto-san and I, who started by working on ero-books, are fairly adaptable. That's because we originally joined the workforce because we wanted to do whatever we wanted without concern for money. When that happens, the difference between hobby and work becomes almost non-existent. It may not be good for a pro, but no one has a pro mindset to that extent. I wonder what Azuma-san thinks about that point.

Kawamoto: That guy, apart from that, always starts with self-denial. Once he has constructed an idea of what he should be, that's the moment he gives up on it. So when I asked him to do an SF parody, even though he had been dying to do that sort of thing up until then, when he was told to go all out, he pulled away. He tried his best at first, but after 2~3 years, he got sick of it and gave up.

Takekuma: That's also pretty similar to me, so I understand how he feels.

Kawamoto: Though I believe being able to deny himself like that is what makes him a genius.

Takekuma: That guy was able to be brought back to life with 'Disappearance Diary' (失踪日記) due to his talent, but most guys disappear just like that.

Kawamoto: After all, his true masterpiece would be 'Gas Company's Gasman' (ガス屋のガス公) (laughs).

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Azuma Hideo's Masterpiece 'Gas Company's Gasman'

Takekuma:
(Laughs). There are many people like Azuma Hideo who were unable to make a comeback. I won't mention his name because it would be misleading, but a mangaka who had been serialising his work at Shogakukan for many years went into a slump and could no longer draw. 10 years later, an editor tracked him down in the hopes of getting him to draw again, but he had already retreated to a house deep in the mountains of Izu, and the moment the editor opened the front door and asked, "Excuse me. Sensei, would you like to work?" A 1.8 litre bottle of sake flew towards him. He was a complete alcoholic. Kamosawa Yuuji-san (鴨沢祐仁) also died from alcoholism.

Kawamoto: After all, there's many who had breakdowns.

Takekuma: Ooizumi Mitsunari (大泉実成) wrote a book called 'The Mangaka Who Vanished' (消えたマンガ家) (Ohta Publishing, 1996), and that was originally a project that came to me. But I thought, "If I do this, there'll be too many problems." So, I turned it down, and in a twist of fate, Oizumi Mitsunari ended up doing it.

Kawamoto: After all, artists push themselves to the limit, and in the end, it's a fierce battle whether they survive. In the end, he survived to the end...... Or rather, the story of how he became homeless and then made a comeback with 'Gas Company's Gasman' is truly amazing. I'd love to see this turned into a television drama.

Takekuma: An artist, who was popular, disappeared just like that and became homeless. I recall there were talks of that being turned into a television drama or movie.

Kawamoto: If it were turned into a movie, then an NHK morning drama would be nice. I think it would be more dramatic than Mizuki Shigeru (水木しげる). The climax will be during his days at the gas company drawing 'Gas Company's Gasman' for the company newsletter and getting praised by everyone (laughs).

Takekuma: It would be an astonishing story. Err, we're almost out of time. I'm sorry for butting in and talking about completely unrelated things. Thank you very much.

Kawamoto: Err, I'm sorry my talk today had so much rambling. To summarise it, the generation that were older than me all went out into the world pretending to be serious members of society, but the tide started to change with Yonezawa-kun and my generation. Around our generation, people who would be called 'Otaku' started to appear, and they no longer hid the fact they were Otaku, and began to fight in the world as they were.

I was part of that first generation. The current generation probably believes things were that way from the very beginning, so they don't feel anything, but our generation wasn't in that sort of environment yet. Amidst all this, I believe Azuma-san, who was one generation above me, is starting to be re-evaluated (as a pioneer of Otaku culture).

Moderator: This concludes today's talk event. Thank you very much, Kawamoto-Sensei.


Recorded at Meiji University Yonezawa Memorial Library
(2011 May 21st)



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Kawamoto Kouji losing weight in Azuma Hideo's 'No Duty Black Sun: Lolicon Edition' (仁義なき黒い太陽・ロリコン編).

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Note 1: Labyrinth (迷宮)

A manga critique group that became the motherly body that founded Comic Market. It was formed in 1975 by Harada Teruo, Aniwa Jun, Yonezawa Yoshihiro, Takamiya Seika, and Shikijou Kyoutarou. They published the critique doujinshi 'Comic Critique' until 1981.

Kawamoto worked with 'Labyrinth' from 1977 to 1979, and in 1979, he self-published 'Sabea Noma Work Collection: Single Pidgeon' (さべあのま作品集 シングル・ピジョン) under the name 'Labyrinth'79' as part of 'Comic Critique Series Vol.3' (漫画新批評大系叢書 Vol.3). The book had a major influence on Azuma Hideo's work, which is mentioned in 'Disappearance Diary' (page 142).

In an interview, Azuma said the following about the influence of 'Single Pidgeon'.

"After I was finished with major magazines, I moved to minor-types and had fun. Magazines like 'Peke', 'Comic Again', and 'Kisou Tengai'. When I went to their side, their editors didn't nag or make too much of a fuss. That's where I drew what I liked and regained my passion once again."

"I also drew manga, but then I happened upon Sabea Noma-san's 'Single Pidgeon', and when I read it, I felt really frustrated. I thought, why should I suffer and do things as a pro, when an amateur is getting praised for drawing what she liked so much (laughs)? It was so painful. You could say because of that frustration, I went into doujinshi and minor magazines of my own volition."

('Comic Shingenjitsu' Vol.3, Kadokawa Shoten, 2005/02, p.10-22.)

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Note 2: Minori Shobo

A publishing company established in 1971. The parent company, Asahi Paper, published ero-gekiga, subculture, and anime magazines in order to make effective use of their paper surplus. Like many small vending machine publishers, it was an outsider that emerged in a completely different direction from the traditional publishing industry, and even published works with an unclear direction, such as 'Ohagaki Magazine' (おはがきマガジン), and 'Occult Age' (オカルト時代). In the late 1970s, it launched 'Monthly OUT', which reflected the looming anime boom. It became popular due to its doujinshi-like layout. They ceased operations in 1995 and disbanded in 1996. The publishing rights from the Minori Shobo period are still being managed by Asahi Paper.

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Note 3: 'OUT' Azuma Hideo Special Feature

According to Sabea Noma (in an interview), "Without a doubt. He planned and edited it himself." And "(I've forgotten), but it's probably just his way of hiding his embarrassment." Azuma Hideo also said Kawamoto was in charge of the special feature in 'OUT', and reflected in the author's commentary of 'Hizashi' (Fukkan.Com Version), "He was the person who was there when I was drawing the works that were the turning points for me."

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Note 4: 'Gogo no Inkou' (午後の淫荒)


This was the first Lolicon manga serialised in a commercial magazine. In his later years, Azuma Hideo said the following.

"I handed this manuscript over in a coffee shop in Shinjuku during the beginning of the series, and I was so embarrassed, I thought I'd be considered a Hentai when I handed it over to the editor. I had drawn that sort of Shoujo ero for 'Cybele'. But this was the first time for a commercial magazine, even if it was a vending machine." (Fukkan.com Version 'Hizashi' p.64.)

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Note 5: The Truth Behind the 'Shoujo Alice' Hiatus

According to Azuma, "When I told him I had a doujinshi today and would take a break from 'Shoujo Alice', he got very angry." (Fukkan.com Version 'Hizashi' p.64.)

During this time, he created the work 'Dream Girl' (夢の少女) (published in the 4th issue of 'Cybele', distributed at C14 on May of 1980). It was typical of Azuma to prioritise his hobby doujinshi over commercial magazines.

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Note 6: 'Pure Literature Series'

The 'Pure Literature Series' was serialised in 1980 in issues 8~9 and 11~15 of 'Supplementary Shoujo Alice'. This series started with the title 'Gogo no Inkou', and while it later came to be called the 'Pure Literature Series', it was originally published as 'Lolita Comix'.

According to Azuma, Kawamoto, who was drawn to 'Gogo no Inkou', came up with the name 'Pure Literature Series' on his own, in reference to 'The Sailor Who Fell from Grace with the Sea' (午後の曳航; Gogo no Eikou; 'Afternoon Tow'). (Fukkan.com Version 'Hizashi' p.64.)

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Note 7: Harada Teruo's Work History

There are no records to support the idea Harada Teruo was a civil servant between 1975 to 1979 when he served as the representative of Comiket, so it's highly likely Kawamoto's memory is incorrect.

According to Harada's own description in 'Comic Market Genesis' (コミックマーケット創世記), Harada's work history was that he 'worked part-time, then in the sales department of a mid-sized printing company in the spring of 1978', after which he became independent as a freelance writer, mainly writing for 'Monthly OUT'.

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Note 8: Sagawa Toshihiko and 'Sabu'

According to Sagawa Toshihiko in '"JUNE" Period—Before the Dawn of BL' (「JUNE」の時代―BLの夜明け前) (Aki Shobo 2024), Sagawa worked part-time at Gekiga Jump, not Sabu. It's true Sagawa founded 'Comic Jun' (later renamed JUNE) with Sakuragi Tetsurou (櫻木徹郎), who worked on 'Sabu' as editor-in-chief, but he had no direct contact with 'Sabu'.

Therefore, the part about 'going to the places of homo artists to collect manuscripts' is most likely a misunderstanding on Kawamoto's part.

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Note 9: Tokyo Magazine Sales (Touzatsu)

A trading company specialising in vending machine distribution, headquartered in Itabashi, Tokyo. Founded in September of 1968 as 'Johoku Book Centre', and renamed 'Tokyo Magazine Sales' in September of 1969. The founder, Nakajima Kimitoshi (中島規美敏), served as president and CEO throughout the company. In 1975, the company expanded into the vending machine sector. They established a series of affiliated subsidiaries (aka Touzatsu Group) involved in sales, wholesale, and publishing, expanding their sales channels throughout Japan. In December of 1976, they established Alice Publishing, becoming the largest ero-book vending machine seller. In 1980, its subsidiaries ELC Planning and Alice Publishing merged, but split up in August of the same year. Most of the editorial staff moved to the offshoot Gunyusha Publishing. Their activities since then are unknown. They were dissolved on December 3rd of 2002, as part of the Ministry of Justice's liquidation of dormant companies.

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Note 10: Uchiyama Aki's Presence

Uchiyama AKi, who suddenly moved from ero-gekiga magazines to 'Weekly Shounen Champion', became a symbol of the Lolicon Boom, working at an incredible pace, up to 300 pages a month (and without an assistant). At the time, he was featured not only in anime magazines, but also weekly magazines, but most of the articles were superficial, emphasising 'Sick' and 'Hentai', and there were few that got to the heart of the matter. It seems Uchiyama was also tired of this kind of sloppy interviewing, and in 1982, when he was serialising 'Andoro Trio' (あんどろトリオ), he told the following honest thoughts to an editor who came to request a manuscript.

"The word Lolicon seems to still be popular in the mass media, but as an artist, I cannot help but feel confused. The word Lolicon itself is a one-sided discriminatory term used by the mass media, which is troubling, but if I may say so, there has never been a Lolicon Boom until now, and I don't feel one is going to begin anytime soon. I believe we'll need to dig deeper into this area once again......"
(From 'Lolita Diary' 1982/2, p.238 'In Lieu of an Afterword'.)

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Note 11: 'Doyou Manga'

A long-established true story manga magazine first published in 1982.

In 1976, the publisher Doyou Shuppan Shinsha came under the umbrella of Touzatsu, and moved to vending machine books. At the time, the company used the brand name 'DO Planning' for vending machine books. Doyou Shuppan Shinsha, like Alice Publishing, was part of Touzatsu, but it's unclear whether there were any personnel exchanges between the two companies. When the editor interviewed a former employee of Alice Publishing, he said 'there was basically no contact'. Examining the early issues, the original publisher was ELC Planning, which had no connection to Doyou, so the veracity of Kawamoto's statement remains unknown.

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Note 12: 'Jam' and 'HEAVEN'

Alternative vending machine books published by ELC Planning, then Alice Publishing, then Gunyusha Publishing from 1979 to 1981. They became legendary for rummaging through Yamaguchi Momoe's rubbish. The story behind the publication was when writer Takasugi Dan (高杉弾) found a vending machine book on a street corner at night, went to visit the publisher, and ended up being hired as the editor-in-chief.

The title was changed to 'HEAVEN' in 1980. Harata Heikichi's (羽良多平吉) cover design is still talked about to this day. In March of 1981, the publication was discontinued in the chaos of the president's arrest.

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Note 13: Akashi Kensei

He was president of ELC Planning and Gunyusha Publishing. He served as vice-president of Alice Publishing in 1980. He left many legends in the publishing world and passed away suddenly in 1996.

He is said to have been a generous businessman who believed, "People who have money should pay."

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Note 14: 'Burikko' Sold Out Issue

'Manga Burikko' started treading the Lolicon route in May of 1983, but according Ootsuka Eiji's 'Spiritual History of Otaku' (おたくの精神史) (Seikaisha), it was the 1983 November issue (the renewal issue) that actually sold out. It seems they didn't sell at all up until then.

By the way, from this issue onward, Lolicon gekiga was dropped, the gravure were abolished, and the cover was changed from Taniguchi Kei (谷口敬), who came from third-rate gekiga, to Apo (Kagami Akira [かがみあきら]), who has a shoujo manga style.
(Ootsuka Eiji 'Spiritual History of Otaku in the 1980s' Seikaisha Bunko 2016, p.127.)

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Note 15: Self-Denial of Azuma Hideo

Azuma mentions his dislike of routine for his self-denial.

"Once I've drawn something once, I grow bored of it. There's no point in repeating the same thing. So, if I can do something new, I'll draw anything, even doujinshi or vending machine books. Is that what makes me cool? (Laughs)."
(Azuma Hideo 'Escape Diary' [逃亡日記] Nihon Bungeisha 2007, p185.)


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Source: 桜桃書房『さくらんぼ』3号(1985/6)pp.55-57


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Unlike practically everything else in this thread that has a source you can easily purchase and verify yourself. I cannot find any information about this magazine other than it's an adult maniac-type magazine published by Sakuramomo Shobou (桜桃書房) who publish a wide variety of books and magazines. There's a copy of Sakurambo's 7th issue on Surugaya that had certain portions (p5~8) of it removed, which might explain its scarcity on the internet.

That said, Kera included a Japanese transcription of this article in 'Flowers for Yamada 2' (川本耕次に花束を2).


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Yasuda Shuuichi's (安田秀一) 'Star Seed' (星の種) (from Lemon People issues 45~46)

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The Current State of Lolicon Manga
One-Patterned Protagonists


Ogata Genjirou (緒方源次郎) (Wiki)

※T/L Note: Both 小形 and 緒方 are read as Ogata, and are both pennames used by Ogata Katsuhiro. Essentially, he's talking to himself using his old (緒方) and new (小形) pennames. To avoid confusion, I'll be using the original Japanese.


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Shinda Mane's (新田真子) 'F²' (From Petit Pandora)

緒方 (Ogata):
Hello, everyone. I'm the Lolicon thug, Ogata Genjirou, who has very much been in the shadows recently.

小形 (Ogata): I'm Ogata Katsuhiro, our names are read the same, but I'm a different person from Ogata-kun.

緒方: Anyways, today we've been asked to discuss the theme: 'The Current State of Lolicon Manga'.

小形: Unlike you, who has been working on Lolicon Manga previously, I wonder if it's alright for someone like me to be here.

緒方: Eh, don't make a face feigning ignorance. Pretty much everyone knows about you from stuff like 'Lolicon Hakusho' (ロリコン白書).

小形: Guh.

緒方: And stuff like the 'Lolicon Complete Works' (ロリコン大全集).

小形: Ugh, don't mention that name.

緒方: Rumour on the street has it you even made a vinyl remake of the 'Moppet' series, right? Is that true?

小形: I only did the layout. I was simply following orders from my superiors. Well, anyways, let's move on to the main topic.

緒方: Fine.

小形: More or less, you continued working as the sender of Lolicon Manga, from 'Manga Burikko' (漫画ブリッコ) to 'Alice Club' (アリスクラブ). And as for me, I was sort of working around the vicinity of Lolicon Manga, or what they call Lolicon ero.

緒方: That's right. In a sense, we can talk quite a bit about the birth of the genre known as Lolicon around 1983.

小形: However, both you and I retired from this industry towards the end of 1984, so I'm not really confident about the current state part of 'The Current State of Lolicon Manga'.

緒方: Well, err, I know I'm cutting straight to the heart of the matter, but that's actually unrelated.

小形: What do you mean?

緒方: I mean there's no need for us to follow from the end of 1984 to the middle of 1985.

小形: Why's that?

緒方: Hmm, before I answer your question, let's talk a little about 'Lolicon Manga' itself.

小形: Go ahead.

緒方: First, I would like you to remember, but around 1978, there was a boom called 'New Wave' in the minor manga world.

小形: Artists like Ootomo Katsuhiro (大友克洋), Takano Fumiko (高野文子), Sabea Noma (さべあのま), Saimon Fumi (柴門ふみ), and Azuma Hideo (吾妻ひでお) were given a lot of praise from manga maniacs.

緒方: Yeah, and in terms of magazines, there were 'Peke', 'Again' (アゲイン), 'Manga Kisoutengai' (マンガ奇想天外), and 'Puff' (ぱふ).

小形: What mustn't be forgotten is that New Wave is easier to understand if you consider it a set with the 'Third-rate Ero-gekiga Boom'.

緒方: Yeah, of course that's included, but the current Lolicon Boom has something in common with this New Wave. Of course, I'm not saying they're the same thing.

小形: I know. So what do they have in common?

緒方: To put it simply, they share the part where editors, who were originally manga maniacs, edited their magazines as a stage to debut and highlight the artists they liked.

小形: That also goes for you.

緒方: Yeah, that's right. To group these artists together, they would call them, for example, New Wave artists or Lolicon mangaka. Meaning, no matter what they drew, if the work was serialised in 'Manga Kisoutengai', then it was 'New Wave', and in a similar fashion, since Fujiwara Kamui (藤原カムイ) was serialised in 'Manga Burikko', his was Lolicon Manga.

小形: I see, so it's not the content of the manga that defines the genre, but rather the magazine.

緒方: And that highlights it as a boom led by editors, and to a certain extent, it's a boom lacking in manga works that should've been the main focus in those parts. This is especially evident in the current Lolicon Boom.

小形: Was there a lack of works in New Wave?

緒方: At the very least, I believe there doesn't exist a person who can answer even now when asked, 'What is its substance?'.

小形: By the way, I'd like to ask, but what is the difference between New Wave and Lolicon Manga?

緒方: Yeah, let's get to that. This part is the most pathetic thing about us, but...... While New Wave was fragmented in terms of individual artists and works with no cohesion, whatsoever, Lolicon Manga had one great unifying theme. That is 'drawing girls cutely'. Content themes besides this, meaning the things that could be expressed, were unimportant to most artists. I believe it's fair to say the only thing that mattered to them was 'how to draw girls'.

小形: I also feel the same way. When comparing the Lolicon Manga Boom with New Wave, Lolicon Manga gives the impression of being fleeting and shallow.

緒方: Someone once said 'Lolicon Manga magazines are catalogues of cute girl characters'. I wonder if these words summarise the situation.

小形: The reason each work had a small number of pages was because they focused more on the characters than on the story.

緒方: Now then, this finally brings us back to the question posed at the very beginning.

小形: That's beautiful (laughs).

緒方: So why was I able to follow this from the end of 1984 to this month in 1985 despite not closely examining it? To put it plainly, towards the end of 1984, the Lolicon Manga Boom came to an end when the numerous Lolicon magazines, that all existed at the same time, began to collapse with 'Alice Club', which I worked on, at its head.

小形: But there's still plenty of magazines out there.

緒方: True. Well, so long as there's no other genres that are as popular right now, I believe at least a couple magazines will likely survive. However, how would you feel if you continued to buy a genre or magazine that had no compelling stories and only pursued the same characters with the same themes?

小形: If it were me, I'd get bored.

緒方: Anyone would get bored. Recently, even the way cute girls are drawn has become one-patterned. Meaning, they're copying the lines of artists who sell well. Relatively speaking, it's a fact the sales of Lolicon Manga magazines are declining. If you plan for old artists to make room for the new in that kind of environment, then you cannot take any unnecessary risks. So they promote new artists who are similar to the best-selling artists. As a result, you wind up with magazines that are all similar and resemble a twisted portrait competition. Out of all Lolicon Manga magazines, I rate Manga Burikko the highest, but that's only because it took the most dangerous risks. Of course, this is only a matter of comparison.

小形: We're about out of pages.

緒方: In conclusion. The Lolicon Boom has finally reached its final stage. During last winter's Comiket, they say few were even paying attention to Lolicon doujinshi. In other words, those who have been playing the role of Lolicon maniacs as a fashion have lost interest. These people have likely gone into hibernation, waiting for the next thing to become popular. This will never end even if the boom itself changes. I don't know what the next boom will be, but going by existing trends, I believe it'll start with SEX before descending to further defeminisation and dehumanisation. The end.

小形: Well said.

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Ogata getting a new pair of cement shoes in Azuma Hideo's 'No Duty Black Sun: Lolicon Edition' (仁義なき黒い太陽・ロリコン編).


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Aside from the above from Kera's tribute doujin, there's a very interesting letter sent to Kawamoto Kouji that Kera scanned and transcribed. It's a time capsule of what people thought in the past. Nowadays, we have blogs and social media to understand the thoughts of people while a trend is happening, but in the 1970s and 1980s, you only have news articles and reviews, but very little in the way of personal thoughts, since letters and diaries aren't exactly things people upload to the internet or submit to researchers (either they're collected long after someone passes away or they disappear entirely).

There was also a female mangaka called Sabea Noma (さべあのま), who had only been drawing for doujinshi (Comiket) up until that point, but I helped her debut in a commercial magazine.
... Kawamoto Kouji had a soft-spot for Sabea Noma (Sabea Noma's Homepage), going so far to help her publish a compilation of her work. I probably should find and translate an interview or talk with her, since she was the one who motivated Azuma Hideo to publish his own doujinshi 'Cybele' at Comiket, changing history forever.

Regardless, Kera included a great deal of photographs and scans in his tribute doujin, so you should purchase it to get a much better visual idea of the things discussed during Kawamoto's talk (
Again, here is a link to Kera's Introduction). It's been a year since I did the previous Kawamoto Kouji tribute doujin, and so far, only a French user on Twitter has seen this thread and spoken about Kawamoto Kouji (he seems mainly interested in the parts regarding the male Lolicon wanting to be Bishoujo, and female Otaku wanting to be Bishounen). Instead of this stupid Light and Dark Lolicon nonsense, perhaps Lolicon should be split between those who want to be the Loli, and those who want to marry the Loli (not mutually exclusive).

Wants to be the Loli (Verified):

Azuma Hideo
Uchiyama Aki
Konoma Waho
Senno Knife
Hirukogami Ken


Wants to Marry the Loli & Doesn't Want to be the Loli (Verified):
Kazuna Kei (Instead, he wants to be on Star Trek):
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Season of SF & Bishoujo / Flowers for Kawamoto Kouji 2:

Kera's doujin is finally available on Pixiv Booth for Christmas! Possessing a copy of this doujin in your hands automatically makes your opinions better than Matt Alt's opinions about the Dragon Quest 3 debacle, and the effect is accumulative; if you have 30 on your bookshelf, on your coffee table, and in your hands when you give your opinion, then your opinion is automatically better than the opinion of the person who has 29 copies. Amazing~!

Doujin Introduction:

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The upcoming article is the final interview Azuma Hideo gave before he disappeared, hence its historical significance. 'Manga no Techou' is a mini-communication magazine that has been around since the early days of Comiket and still exists even to this day. The moderator for the Fusion Product roundtable talk was a member of 'Manga no Techou'.

Unfortunately, back issues of this magazine haven't been preserved outside one 'Manga No Techou' writer called Gotou Shunichi (後藤修一), who had 41 of his articles posthumously compiled into the following book: '後藤修一遺稿集「漫画の手帖」編 我がオタク人生に悔いなし」' (2019/08/30) (Book Introduction).

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While searching for 'Manga no Techou' in English, I noticed that poorly researched Castle of Doom article made some unsubstantiated claim the mascot for 'Manga no Techou' is a 'Dark Clarisse'. I have yet to find any mention of this mascot being based on Clarisse from 'The Castle of Cagliostro', and what's worse, this same article claimed Nanako from 'Nanako SOS' is a 'Dark Clarisse', which is 100% complete rubbish (we'll delve into Nanako more when I get around to another long interview between Yonezawa Yoshihiro and Azuma Hideo). Of course, articles like this are cited by English Wikipedia.

Manga no Techou Mascot (1983):
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Manga no Techou Mascot (1984):
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Clarisse's anime was a big deal in 1979~ Comiket, but unlike Lum and many other anime heroines, it's doubtful people still cared about her THAT much (there's an article about her anime in the 1982 Spring #7 issue of Manga no Techou).

Interesting Story about Miyazaki Hayao getting into fights and becoming unemployed :
パヤオは高畑が監督をやることになったリトルニモっていう合作映画を手伝うために渡米するが高畑がプロデューサーと喧嘩して速攻で降板したため次の監督に指名された

帰国した高畑にかわり新監督としてイメージボードを描きまくるがプロデューサーのゲーリー・カーツ(スターウォーズとかをヒットさせた人)と大喧嘩して速攻で帰国

無職となったパヤオに鈴木の上司で尾形というアニメージュの編集長がパヤオに漫画版ナウシカの連載をさせる つづく

ナウシカの映画化を焦った鈴木敏夫は最低でも原稿が160ページなければ出版できないにも関わらず118ページの薄っぺらい単行本を出してしまう

ナウシカの1巻は初版7万部出したが5万部も売れず大コケとなったが鈴木敏夫は編集長の尾形と共に強引に映画化を推し進め徳間と博報堂の合同の会議にまで持ち込む

そのプレゼンの席でナウシカの出版部数を聞かれた鈴木敏夫は「50万部売れてます! 大ヒットです!」と大噓をついた つづく

その嘘のおかげでナウシカの企画は動き出したがカリ城が大コケしたパヤオの新作は100%コケると業界中の噂となり引き受けてくれるスタジオはどこにもなくテレコムにすら断られた

唯一引き受けてくれたのがトップクラフトというアメリカのアニメを専門に作っていたスタジオでパヤオは日本のアニメを一度も作ったことがないというとんでもないスタッフを使ってナウシカを作らなければならない羽目になってしまった

そこにド素人の庵野秀明がアニメーターとして参加したいと面接にやってくる おわり

On a more positive note, tooecchi scanned and uploaded several issues of 'Manga no Techou' to Sad Panda, so I highly recommend checking those out. tooecchi also discovered this thread and quoted the translation from the book with the Azuma Hideo Long Interview. He referred to Varishangout as 'Vanishing Hangout', which sounds ominous (I've been backing up my translations in case this thread/website does vanish).

Coincidentally, tooecchi also scanned and uploaded 'Magical Trip' and 'Cat People' #7 mentioned earlier in this thread. I'm curious if he decided to scan the latter because of this thread, or if it's simply him seeing it in the Surugaya recommendations while purchasing something else (because I purchased a copy earlier?). The only way he would've known about it is if he also follows Shirone Koma.

But if tooecchi is reading this thread, there's several more issues of CAT PEOPLE on yahoo.auctions. They're being held ransom by a scalper that raised their value several magnitudes greater (if I had 9 lives, I would use one of them to get this guy's address and break his kneecaps). I'm personally willing to cover half the cost for each issue, but 5k JPY for a single book is outside my personal price range.

CAT PEOPLE 2:
CAT PEOPLE 4:
CAT PEOPLE 5:

Akashizawa Takashi's (赤石沢貴士) doujins and old CG collections are also being held ransom by the same person. But his works, while nice, aren't historically significant like CAT PEOPLE (Kosugi Aya sent Shirone Koma an extremely rare copy of CAT PEOPLE 0).

Might as well mention it's thanks to the folks who scanned Lemon People I picked up these doujins by Igarashi Yuu years ago (the Lemon People issue had an interview between Igarashi Yuu and Oki Yukao, Azuma Hideo's assistant who worked on Cybele):
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Also found out the book (漫画同人誌エトセトラ’82~’98: 状況論とレビュ-で読むおたく史) Shirone Koma keeps citing for his CAT PEOPLE articles was apparently a collection of every Doujinshi Review Yonezawa Yoshihiro wrote for Lemon People from the magazine's beginning in 1982 to its end in 1998 (Amazon Link). Kera wrote a review for it in 2019... The bloody thing is being sold for 12,630 JPY used. Wish I knew its contents earlier when people were selling it for significantly less (800 JPY). If one were to rank the parts of Lemon People that are valuable to preserve, then towards the top would be the contents of this book.
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Apparently, tooecchi is a team of two people, and has been scanning for a combined total of 30 years (also scanning stuff he doesn't attribute to 'tooecchi'). Kimi Rito posted in tooecchi's Cybele thread, though it's unknown whether tooecchi responded to Kimi Rito privately about asking the actual artists of Cybele, who are still alive, to verify authors by penname (tooecchi wrote paragraph upon paragraph to justify his analysis of author and page number for certain issues of Cybele, an amount of dedication that makes me feel like a dull-minded, lazy-bones).

Kera has a lot of different things on his plate (i.e. he's planning to do an interview with the person in charge of the convention that discriminated against artists that led to the formation of Comiket; everything known about this convention has been documented on the Comiket side, so Kera's going to get their side of the story), but maybe if Kera does contact Oki Yukao and Kazuna Kei, he can share tooecchi's archival efforts with them, and possibly acquire things that are too rare to appear even during an auction. Kera sometimes posts about wanting to collaborate with another dedicated person his age, and I thought he made friends with a young editor he's going to collaborate with... I feel sorry for him hardly anyone in Japan feels the same need to research, compile, and interview important figures of this history.

Ack, this preamble's almost as long as the upcoming translation...


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Source:『漫画の手帖 No.21』 1985/07/15

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Current Affairs
Talk
Azuma Hideo-san (Mangaka)


In front of Hoya Station drizzling with rain, this is the conversation I had at the police box in front of the station when I asked for directions to Mukiryoku Productions (無気力プロダクション).


——Umm, where is ×× Heights?

P: ×× Heights, that's the one with the ●● store on the first floor, so that should be your destination. By the way, who are you visiting?

——Ehh? Ahh, that's the workplace of the mangaka-san called Azuma Hideo-san, but...

P: Mukiryoku Productions. That must be it.


Yeah, that happened. The name of Mukiryoku Productions is known even to a police officer in Hoya.


★~★~★~★~★


I Was Drunk When I Witnessed Kanada-san's 'BIRTH', So I Don't Remember The Details, But It Was Very Interesting.


——What sort of folks have you met in Oizumi recently?

Azuma: The animator Kanada-san (金田). I don't know his face, but we met often. 'Birth', which that guy created, you see. Everyone said terrible things about it, but it was quite interesting. Watching it in motion.
※金田伊功 (Kanada Yoshinori) (Wiki)

——Everyone said they saw it on Picture Search (ピクチャーサーチ). (Laughs) It had no story, so it was kinda 'eh'.

Azuma: It was quite a pleasure, I enjoyed it. I was drunk when I watched it, so I don't remember much about the story. During the preview, Kanada-san was in the back, and the guys in front were saying, "What the hell's this?", and Kanada-san turned pale. (Laughs)

——Did you see Godzilla?

Azuma: No, I haven't.

——They're also going to be doing Daimajin (大魔神).

Azuma: They're also doing that? That was supposed to be a trilogy.

——'Daimajin', 'Return of Daimajin' (大魔神逆襲), and 'The Wrath of Daimajin' (大魔神怒る), I believe. If you think about it carefully, they're all the same story.

Azuma: They don't have any other pattern for them.

——Cause you have to make it angry. (Laughs)

Azuma: It can't be helped. Like poking it with a stick to make it angry. (Laughs) Tori-san (とり) is also making a movie. What's happening with that?

——He was filming, but it seems it's not out yet. It's on video, though. Tori-san is a pro when it comes to video editing.

Azuma: So it's Tomoyo (知世) after all? (Laughs) Recently, Morohoshi-san (諸星) is also obsessed with video. Bought even a laser disc. That guy's personality is strict and he's very monomaniacal, so no matter how much of a half-wit movie it is, he isn't satisfied unless he skips the commercials. Then he winds up watching them to the end, putting off his work. (Laughs)

——You're currently working on three main projects, right? In Comi-Comi (コミコミ), Super Action (スーパアクション), and Just Comic (ジャストコミック). Did you stop in My Anime (マイアニメ)?

Azuma: I didn't know what to draw. I was really struggling. That's why I inserted strange stuff.

——Stuff like All Night Hideo (オールナイトひでお). (Laughs) I'd love to see the look on the editor-san's face who said 'most of the body is the face' when he appeared in there.

Azuma: Well—, it's not to the point it's mostly face.

——As much as Takatori Ei-san (高取英)?

Azuma: No, not as much as Takatori-san. (Laughs) The My Anime editor has a huge body, so his face is also huge. When you look at his face, he has an impressive bearded face, but on the phone, he's all Burikko when he says 'Hello, Azuma-Sensei' in a high-pitched voice, it's very creepy. (Laughs)

——The rest were just one-off jobs, right? What happened at Kitan (綺譚)?

Azuma: Akiyama-san (秋山) was handling that. He's busy, so it's not bad. Kitansha is a group of freelance editors, so they have a wide network of acquaintances. I went to a party there the other day and it was incredible. Not just the editors, but the artists and the men of culture.

——Men of culture?

Azuma: Guys like Agata Morio (あがたもりお). (Laughs) That guy was cheerful for a while, playing rock music, but then he went to the year-end party and suddenly became gloomy, dressed in dirty clothes singing 'Kamata March' (蒲田行進曲) with an acoustic guitar. I wonder what happened. (Laughs)

——Red-Coloured Elegy (赤色エレジー).

Azuma: I've sorted out my work recently, so it's fine, but at one point, I was doing about 120 pages a month. Even I don't know what I was thinking then. I used the same punch lines, and my editor pointed out they were the same, and I was like 'ahh~'...

——Cause many editors are maniacs.

Azuma: No, you can tell even if you're not a maniac. It's the material I used in the previous month's special issue. (Laughs)

——Apparently, there was a time when Tezuka-san (手塚) was drawing 500 pages a month.

Azuma: It's possible with story manga. But isn't it like Ootomo Katsuhiro-san says (大友克洋) where manga belongs to Tezuka-san. So aren't all of the mangaka after Tezuka-san, Tezuka-san's underdogs? (Laughs) Consider it 'Mangaka Underdog Theory'. He must be bored... Whenever Tezuka-san hits a slump, a newbie comes along and gives him motivation, and he crushes the newbie and survives.

——He also saw Azuma-san as a rival.

Azuma: Yeah, I was the underdog who got him to draw 'Prime Rose' (プライムローズ). Since he went to all that trouble, he could've drawn something a little nicer. (Laughs) I was wondering what he's been up to recently, so I tapped and it turns out he did newly drawn artwork for 'New Treasure Island' (新宝島). What are you doing? (Laughs)

——You saw it? It did have an old-fashioned style, didn't it? It's amazing he can still draw like that today. Ishimori-san (石森) and Akatsuka-san (赤塚) are mere shadows of their former selves. But Fujiko-san (藤子) is still here. They say he hasn't changed since 'Prince of the Sea' (海の王子). (Laughs)

Azuma: He hasn't changed—. I guess that's his secret, he hasn't changed. Actually, Fujiko-san has a lot of Hanko (判子) in his desk, and I believe he uses those to stamp things. (Laughs)

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Azuma-san Decides to Take Some Time to Recuperate After Ceasing All of His Serialisations


Now then, Azuma-san, who was envious of Tori Miki-san's three-month break last year, seems to have finally done the same for himself.

Just before the end of April's ComiComi, Azuma-san told his assistants "I'm going out for some cigarettes, be right back" and left, never to return.


He'll be taking a break from all of his serialisations for the time being, and it's unclear when he'll start working again. It's unfortunate for his fans, but let's wait for his return after he has had a nice, long break.


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Illustration by Kanai Miya (華内美也)

Kanai Miya (Real Name: Kanai Tatsuya [金井達也]) was an artist born in the early 1960s who belonged to the Azuma Hideo FC and the Takahashi Rumiko FC (Fanclub), and was briefly an assistant to Senno Knife. Her art is very much inspired by Azuma Hideo, and despite drawing for Lemon People and Comic Again Apple (コミックアゲインあっぷる) thanks to Senno Knife's connections, she didn't do much commercial work due to her being unable to change her style and story at the request of the editors.

She did a story about Girl Detective Marimo-chan, where Creamy Mami and other anime characters were kidnapped by an anime maniac who had a deep grudge against doujinshi, and Marimo-chan punishes the maniac with the 'weight of doujinshi'.


Shoujo Detective Marimo-chan (Comic Again Apple):

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The maniac badmouths doujinshi and Oka (丘), and in the bottom panel, there's a character called Kemokko (けもっこ). Oka was the name of a coffee shop (喫茶店) in Ochanomizu where various manga fan clubs held meetings (Link), and the Kemokko character looks like the Azuma Hideo character, Bukimi-kun (不気味くん), and the name is based on Takahashi Rumiko's penname when she was an amateur (Kemokko was also the name of one of the Takahashi Rumiko fanclubs).

Kanai Miya Manga (Lemon People):

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Saw her Cut in this 21st issue of Manga no Techou and thought it looked nice, researched her so her existence is known outside Japan. Merry Christmas~!
 
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Let's start off the new year with another long interview between Azuma Hideo and Yonezawa Yoshihiro. I also translated a fan letter from Takahashi Rumiko, and included some samples of a few of the other articles. You could consider this a prequel to the interview in the 'Azuma Hideo <Complete Special Feature> Bishoujo, SF, Absurd Gags, and Disappearance' (吾妻ひでお〈総特集〉美少女・SF・不条理ギャグ、そして失踪). I guess it's worth mentioning tooecchi scanned several tankoubon for Azuma Hideo works that were published in the 1980s like Midare Moko, Scrap School, and Desperate Angel. Despite there being all sorts of re-masters and newer compilations, only a scattering of Azuma Hideo's works like 'Disappearance Diary' and 'Chaos Note' are available for digital purchase (Bookwalker Digital Versions to Support Azuma Hideo's daughter Chika-chan).

Azuma: Even though they're Lolicon, everyone has different tastes. They're quite divided.
That French Twitter user I mentioned earlier created a meme based on a translation from this thread. He also got the mangaka, Tori Miki, to respond to one his tweets about reading one of his manga. Apparently, he saw the comment I made on the first page where I mentioned Azuma Hideo recommending that people read Tori Miki's manga, which might be the first concrete good that came from this thread. When I used to do manga scanlations, a French anon would also create memes for my projects on 4chan, there's something about the French that makes them better than the average manga and anime fan (they seem to actually pay attention and do useful things).


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Source:『吾妻ひでお大全集』 1981/5/15

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Azuma Hideo Interview


Azuma Hideo talks about everything related to himself for four and a half hours. About his debut, about SF, about manga, about his daily life, and about Lolicon. A complete picture of Azuma Hideo is about to be revealed!!


Interviewer: Ajima Shun (阿島俊)
※This is one of Yonezawa Yoshihiro's pennames (Wiki).



"SF...... Whilst in the closet, it grows bigger and bigger and then attacks you in the middle of the night."

"I want to draw manga that appears in newspapers all around the world every day and live a comfortable life."

"My goal this year is to turn my work into play... and turn drinking into my job."



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Azuma Hideo Interview 《PART I》 Edification


"Hidden SF (laughs). I hid SF in 'Midare Moko' and 'Sham Cat', so it was very difficult (laughs). The first time I did SF openly was in 'Peke' (laughs)."


——When did you decide to become a mangaka?

Azuma: Around 17.

——What was your vision of the future before then......?

Azuma: Up until then, nothing. I just stood there with my mouth open.

——Did you ever think about settling down in Hokkaido?

Azuma: It's not as if I never had those thoughts. However, I didn't have any particular goals in minds...... I simply had a vague desire of leaving my parents' home and getting a job somewhere.

——Was the reason you happened to settle in Tokyo because being a mangaka was in your head?

Azuma: Right. Becoming a mangaka was a trend back then (laughs), so I didn't want to fall behind.

——Were you already in a manga club back then?

Azuma: I was tentatively in one.

——What did you create in school before then?

Azuma: Well, I joined an Akita doujinshi.

——Akita Prefecture? So you were a local member......?

Azuma: Right. It was called 'Hourglass' (砂時計). We released half a work. I wonder if anyone from there went pro, though I doubt it.

——Did you start drawing manga after you entered high school?

Azuma: Right. When I was in my second year, I drew my first manga with panels.

——When did you buy your first pen?

Azuma: I guess it was in my second year. So, I learned how to draw by reading Ishimori-san's 'Mangaka Introductory Guide' (漫画家入門).
※Ishinomori Shoutarou (石ノ森 章太郎) (Wiki)

——So you decided to become a mangaka......

Azuma: Yeah. Basically the same pattern as others (laughs).

——Matsuhisa-san was in the same class as you, since your first year of high school, right?
※Matsuhisa Yuu (松久由宇) (Wiki)

Azuma: No, third year. I sort of knew him from before, but we weren't that close.

——And then you entered Grand Companion (グラコン)?

Azuma: Right. I believe it was through Matsuhisa's introduction.

——Were your manga activities during your high school days mainly what you would call doujin activities?

Azuma: Right. Well, I didn't do any major cuts or anything like that.

——Then did you start submitting your works to general magazines after you moved to Tokyo?

Azuma: That's right.

——So you were already determined to become a pro when you were in high school?

Azuma: Right.

——Did you get to know your buddies from Hokkaido during your high school days?

Azuma: Yeah. I was close to Matsuhisa and the other members. I entered Grand Companion late, so I didn't know anyone at all until I was about to graduate and moved to Tokyo.

——So, you graduated and got employed en masse.

Azuma: Not en masse, but I was tentatively employed. Letterpress printing. There's many types of letterpresses, but it seems they specialised in cardboard.

——How many years......?

Azuma: One month.

——Not months, but a month. I don't think there's many guys like that (laughs).

Azuma: I worked there for a little over a month. Then quit.

——So you joined in April and quit in May or June, and it was in 1967 or 1968?

Azuma: Yeah, 1967. It was cold.

——How did you feed yourself?

Azuma: Err, I didn't eat anything in particular. I didn't eat anything at all (laughs).

——So, from then, there was quite a blank until you went to Itai Rentarou-san's place and became his assistant.
※Itai Rentarou (板井れんたろう) (Wiki)

Azuma: There was a two month blank.

——So two months became an empty space in your life?

Azuma: Well, it's a mystery......

——Did you go to Itai-san's place through an introduction or something?

Azuma: No, an advertisement in a magazine.

——Was it live-in?

Azuma: No, commute.

——Where were you living at the time? Did you move out of a company dorm?

Azuma: I didn't live anywhere (laughs). I didn't have a specific place to stay.

——No fixed address.

Azuma: I commuted. Well, it was summer, so it was fine. By autumn, I officially went to live there.

——Back then, there were a lot of those kinds of people.

Azuma: There were. There was some trouble around Shinjuku.

——So it was a fun life......

Azuma: It wasn't fun (laughs).

——So, back then, you had one Boston bag and......

Azuma: That's right. Everything was scattered all over, I had barely anything left.

——I see. How long did you stay at Itai-san's place?

Azuma: One to two years.

——Did your serialisation start before you left Itai-san's place?

Azuma: Ahh, that's right. I was already drawing when I was an assistant. From my first year, I started drawing Cuts for magazines like 'Shounen Sunday' and 'Mangaoh'...... I was invited by an editor-san who visited Itai-san's place.

——Where were you lodging?

Azuma: At first, I was lodging at a friend's house in Takadanobaba.

——Did you contribute or bring anything with you?

Azuma: I didn't contribute. I did bring in a sort of submission. Basically, an editor-san I got to know asked me to show him a manuscript, so I drew one, and he said 'ahh, I see, well, later' (laughs), and I was like 'sorry'.

——Were your first three stories drawn while you were an assistant? When 'Hangover Dandy' (二日酔いダンディー) first began serialisation......

Azuma: I was in and out. I quit for a time, and then came back. I recall it was during 'The Tonzulars'...... I quit around that time.

——What sort of person was Itai-san?

Azuma: He had a cheerful personality and a short temper. A handsome man (laughs).

——Did Itai-san teach you anything?

Azuma: I learned all sorts of things about art. He taught me the fundamentals.

——After 'Mangaoh', you were published in 'Shounen Champion', right?

Azuma: Right. While I was doing 'Mangaoh' (Hangover Dandy), I started 'Shounen Sunday' (The Iropple). Then 'Mangaoh' collapsed, and 'Sunday' ended, so I guess I shifted seamlessly into 'Champion'.

——But it must've been difficult making a living from just a monthly magazine.

Azuma: I wasn't eating good. So, I kept to the ramen life around then. But I somehow managed. The rent was 5,000 yen.

——Were things going smoothly around this point......?

Azuma: Well, somehow. Things were going smoothly. There wasn't much of a break from work.

——How popular were you at the time?

Azuma: I didn't feel popular.

——There's the fact editors bought your work......

Azuma: Yeah. Editors bought my stuff. They were acting like a seed will soon sprout (laughs).

——At what point did you realise you've become a mangaka?

Azuma: Hm, after I started working in weekly magazines. When I was working for 'Sunday', I didn't feel that way yet (laughs). So, I guess it was around 'Eight Beat'. This continued for a long time.

——Was it around 'Eight Beat' you used an assistant for the first time?

Azuma: Right. 'Eight Beat' and 'Kimagure Gokue' (きまぐれ悟空) each lasted for six months. I was washing my hands of them around this time.

——'Eight Beat' and 'Gokue' weren't very popular?

Azuma: They weren't. They seemed to be quite popular among maniacs. I used to receive a lot of fan letters. That's when my fan club was formed.
※Azuma Hideo Fan Club (吾妻ひでお友の会)

——And what about 'Futari to Gonin' (ふたりと5人)?

Azuma: I started drawing it, thinking it would last for 5 or 6 chapters, but it continued for 5 years.

——So you became a popular artist through that (laughs). What were its popularity rankings......?

Azuma: 2nd or 3rd place. However, there was a massive gap between 1st place,'Dokaben', and the rest, which didn't matter at all.

——The reason 'Futari to Gonin' ended was because......?

Azuma: It's common knowledge in the manga world if it's not popular, it ends (laughs).

——That's true (laughs). But it bounced back a few times.

Azuma: No, nothing of the sort. It was a gradual decline (laughs).

——There were a lot of magazines published by Akita Shoten back then.

Azuma: I did various works for 'Princess' back then.

——In any case, everyone was featured in Akita's magazines.

Azuma: I suppose everyone was featured. I forget the past.

——They were the most major back then.

Azuma: Major (laughs).

——And then things started looking bleak...... (laughs).

Azuma: The same time that hateful 'Gakideka' started, things gradually......

——It was around this time you got married.

Azuma: I believe it was right after 'Futari to Gonin' started. I was around 23 or 24, still young.

——Did you start 'Chokkin' (チョッキン) right after 'Futari to Gonin'?

Azuma: No, before that was 'Midare Moko' (みだれモコ). And right after that was 'Chokkin'. That was quite long...... Or maybe not so long?

——Lots of people became your fans thanks to 'Midare Moko'. Is that a reaction to 'Futari to Gonin'?

Azuma: It was a reaction. Around then, the only image I had was 'Futari to Gonin'. My orders were only those sorts of orders.

——'Midare Moko' had an SF feel, but you started reading SF when you were in high school, right?

Azuma: Right.

——So, was it true you always wanted to do SF?

Azuma: I wanted to do SF for a long time. Before my debut, all my memos were SF (laughs).

——So, returning back to the main topic, was 'Chokkin' a long-running serial?

Azuma: No, at first, it was supposed to be 5 or 6 chapters.

——Isn't that the case for everyone? I believe this one was also pretty popular, but......

Azuma: Hmm, I wonder. Why did it continue? It probably continued because it didn't cause any trouble to other manga (laughs). It all started with a plan to do 5 or 6 chapters at first, just so it could fill up the pages a bit (laughs). Even 'Moko' was supposed to end after 5 or 6 chapters (laughs), but the question of whether it ends or doesn't end only comes when its time comes...... (laughs).

——Did you think you would be laid off when 'Chokkin' ended?

Azuma: Yeah, around then, work only came sporadically. Other than that, I was filling in for people who missed their deadlines, and it was pretty awful (laughs).

——You've been doing 'Desperate Angel' (Yakekuso Tenshi; やけくそ天使) for quite some time.

Azuma: Yeah. 'Yaketen' became quite popular, but the reviews in shounen magazines were very bad. Around the time of 'Chokkin', I was hit by a full-scale attack by a net, and that made me lose motivation (laughs).

——'Sham Cat' (シャンキャット) felt like you wanted to do a little more......

Azuma: Well, it was mostly filler, so it wasn't that great.

——So, was the deciding factor the fact you got kicked out of 'Champion'?

Azuma: Probably (laughs).

——As for 'Anywhere Space' (どーでもいんなーすぺーす), you had that idea since long ago.

Azuma: No, nothing of the sort. It was a random idea.

——You mean an SF parody?

Azuma: It simply came to me. I got excited about making it a parody of 'The Cold Equation', but then got worried. Then I was holding my head in my hands (laughs). It was the first time I felt I done something original for a manga. I told myself those who get it would get it (laughs).

——Though, I heard you quickly grew tired of the world......

Azuma: That's simply a creative problem. However, I was enthusiastic about it. Even though I had setbacks, I was happy to draw SF.

——So you never received a request to draw SF before then?

Azuma: Never. I had to force them to let me do it.

——Were things like 'Parallel Kyoushitsu' (パラレル狂室) meant for educational magazines?

Azuma: And also hidden. Hidden SF (laughs). So the editors wouldn't find out, I hid SF in 'Midare Moko' and 'Sham Cat', so it was very difficult (laughs). The first time I did SF openly was in 'Peke' (laughs).

——Around this point, you gave up on 'Champion' and just didn't care (laughs).

Azuma: It felt like I abandoned them around this point.

——Then you started doing things in minor magazines (laughs). You started drawing here and there, and gained a lot of attention. Like 'Absurd Diary' (不条理日記), why did you draw something like that?

Azuma: When I said I liked Tsutsui Yasutaka-san (筒井康隆), an editor told me to draw something like 'Samba of Running and Chasing' (脱走と追跡のサンバ). But how was I supposed to draw that (laughs)? I agonised over it, and that's how it turned out (laughs).

——Did you think you would win the Nebula Award for this?

Azuma: No, the thought never occurred to me (laughs).

——Speaking of 'Absurd Diary', they say even maniacs didn't understand it at first.

Azuma: I believed no one would understand it.

——In what form did news of the Nebula Award come to you?

Azuma: It came in a letter.

——Apparently, someone involved said if they told people in advance, they might tell others, which would've been bad, and that they shouldn't let people know next time. You must've told an editor or someone.

Azuma: I told them. I was so happy I blurted it out (laughs).

——So you were happy?

Azuma: Yeah.

——The Nebula Award made you an instant leader in the SF world.

Azuma: I don't know about that (laughs).

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Azuma Hideo Interview 《PART Ⅱ》 SF


"SF, you see, was a long history of abuse. Perhaps it's because I didn't have any friends like that around me back then, but whenever I try to talk about SF, people would tell me SF is full of lies (laughs)."


——Last year, you won the Nebula Award, and became an instant favoured child of the SF world (laughs). I imagine since then many SF fans have gathered to you, Azuma-san, but what sort of folk usually visit you?

Azuma: Serious student-sans. Speaking of which, some of them were quite radical. Often, when I ask them about it, I find out they're Lolicon.

——Do you generally prefer overseas SF?

Azuma: That's right.

——You also have 'Amazing Stories', that's surprisingly old.
※Amazing Stories (Wiki)

Azuma: Well, I bought those at a used bookstore. I haven't read most of them (laughs). I collect them at used bookstores.

——There's a story you had SF fans in the past, but......

Azuma: For a while. Shortly after my debut. Then, when I was drawing 'Futari to Gonin', they completely vanished all at once (laughs). They thought I was a hentai (laughs).

——Did they come back around the time you were serialised in 'Peke'?

Azuma: They did.

——Have you ever found it difficult to get along with SF fans because they tend to speak in a language unique to SF fans?

Azuma: I have. I didn't have any deep relationships with them. I was a lonely SF fan.

——So you were a solitary fan and didn't attend very many SF fan gatherings. Was it after you won the Nebula Award that you started to attend SF conventions?

Azuma: That's right. Speaking of SF fans, many of them are quite extroverted. Well, there's plenty of people with abnormal personalities. I'm a gloomy person at heart, so I can't get along with them.

——Don't you think they can be divided into several types?

Azuma: However, there weren't many dark SF fans.

——When it comes to SF itself, do you enjoy dark stuff? How do I put it......?

Azuma: No, I always enjoyed light-hearted gags for the most part.

——Which of Sturgeon's works do you prefer? His long stories, or his short stories?

Azuma: I prefer his short stories in general.

——So, what's your favourite long story?

Azuma: As I have said many times (laughs), 'More Than Human'.

——What attracted you to it? The girls (laughs)?

Azuma: I also like the girls, but what I liked was the fact there weren't any decent people in it (laughs).

——What about 'The Dreaming Jewels'......?

Azuma: I also like that.

——What is your favourite short story?

Azuma: I guess 'The Other Cellia'...... It was a story about a girl who sheds her skin.

——You like that (laughs).

Azuma: It's a scary story (laughs).

——What about 'Bianca's Hands'......?

Azuma: That's a story I also like.

——You say you like Sturgeon, Brown, and Sheckley, but it would be weird to ask which of Brown's short stories you like, so what about his long ones......?

Azuma: Long ones...... I wonder. I guess 'Martians, Go Home' (laughs).

——What about Sheckley......?

Azuma: I hardly read any of Sheckley's long stories. But his short stories are sophisticated and interesting. But I doubt neither Brown nor Sheckley are well-known these days (laughs).

——But back in the day, it was normal to start with one of their works. What's the work among Sheckley's you remember......?

Azuma: 'Untouched by Human Hands'. I'm still impressed by that one. I don't believe it's old-fashioned.

——True. However, the world described to be set in the future feels a little different from how we feel now......

Azuma: Ahh, is that so? But when it comes to the image of SF, I like simple stories about a rocket landing on an unknown planet.

——Have you also read any New Wave?

Azuma: I read a little, but the people I like are limited to Delany and Aldiss...... I haven't followed the others very much.

——What about your favourite among Japanese writers......?

Azuma: Tsutsui-san.
※Tsutsui Yasutaka (筒井康隆) (Wiki)

——Could you name your favourite 4 or 5 of Tsutsui's works?

Azuma: The first one I read was 'The Toukaidou War' (東海道戦争), I like that one. 'Chronicle of the Horse’s Head Crisis' (馬の首風雲録) was amazing. Then there's the 'Nanase' (七瀬) series. 'Metamorphosis Archipelago' (メタモルフォセス群島). What else...... What else? SF Manga!

——Have you read 'Virtual Men' (虚人たち)?

Azuma: Yeah. I skimmed a bit, but I read most of it.

——You mentioned 'The Long Afternoon of Earth' (Aldiss) and 'Chronicle of the Horse’s Head Crisis' as works you would like to adapt into manga. What was it about these works that attracted you?

Azuma: For 'The Long Afternoon of Earth', it was the image of the artwork. Like the trees are my personal hobby, those parts. Also, it had a dark feel to it. For 'Chronicle of the Horse's Head Crisis', it was the interesting characters.

——What about the monster-orientation in them? It's debatable whether they should be called monsters......

Azuma: I enjoy things that don't make sense.

——So, what's your favourite SF monster?

Azuma: The sandworms that appeared in 'Dune'. The Traverser that appeared in 'The Long Afternoon of Earth'.

——Weaving a spider's thread......

Azuma: Correct. The rest are brutal, so I don't like them (laughs). I can't make them into a bed.

——Do you like Tezuka-san's monsters?

Azuma: I absolutely like Tezuka-san's monsters. That's basically what they are. My favourite is from 'The Adventure of Rock' (ロック冒険記). The one shaped like a hand. The image around it is......

——You mentioned something like a definition of SF during last year's SF convention, but could you repeat that here?

Azuma: A mad scientist appears, a robot appears, and a beauty is attacked by a monster.

——On that topic, what kind of image do you have of a mad scientist?

Azuma: That scientist from 'The Men who Murdered Mohammed'. He gets angry when he sees his wife cheating on him, so he goes into his basement to create a time machine. He tries to murder his wife's ancestors, but couldn't do it (laughs).

——What part do you enjoy seeing in your favourite SF movie?

Azuma: I haven't watched very many SF. I only watched 'Godzilla' long ago (laughs). And then, for the first time since I came to Tokyo... My favourite is 'Forbidden Planet'. I saw it on TV. It was amazing.

——How about any recent ones?

Azuma: I like most of the recent stuff. I like 'Star Wars' and 'Superman'.

——Do you often go watch SF movies?

Azuma: I watch them as part of my work now.

——You said you watched 'Godzilla' long ago, but which of them do you like best? 'Godzilla', 'King Ghidorah', or 'King Lady'?

Azuma: Who's 'King Lady' (laughs)?

——I don't know (laughs).

Azuma: King Ghidorah is the strongest.

——How about the monsters that show up on the TV show 'Ultra Q' (ウルトラQ)?

Azuma: I liked them quite a bit. Like Namegon (laughs). Also, there was one like Sheckley's stuff, it was fluffy......

——Ahh, Balloonga.

Azuma: I also liked that one. I like those types. It doesn't look useful at all (laughs).

——Sheckley's 'The Leech'. What about supernatural powers? In your case, Azuma-san, you've drawn many stories about supernatural powers.

Azuma: I like supernatural powers.

——If you could have any supernatural power, what would you want to have? And what would you do (laughs)?

Azuma: Telekinesis would be nice (laughs). World domination would be easy.

——So it comes to that. And then you'll conquer all the beauties in the world. And then what will you do (laughs)?

Azuma: All that would be left would be to destroy everything (laughs).

——However, protagonists with that sort of supernatural power are surprisingly rare......

Azuma: That's right. But when it's depicted seriously, the art becomes amazing (laughs). I guess because it devolves into a gag (laughs).

——What's your favourite supernatural power SF work......?

Azuma: The 'Nanase' series! I am also quite fond of 'Mutant Sub'. Also, what was it called, ahh, I liked the 'Hogben' series.

——What's your prediction for this year's Nebula Award in the manga category? Are you thinking it would be one of your own works (laughs)?

Azuma: I don't think so (laughs). ...... Morohoshi-san. The work doesn't matter. As a mark of respect for Morohoshi-san's face (laughs).
※Morohoshi Daijirou (諸星 大二郎) (Wiki)

——Morohoshi-san's face is SF (laughs). Where does the SF inside you come from, Azuma-san?

Azuma: Standing up and reading books. In the corner of a bookstore.

——When you were in school, did you have any friends who liked SF?

Azuma: Nope! Some read them occasionally, but no one said they liked them.

——What does SF mean to you, Azuma-san?

Azuma: It's like a mixture of cod roe and nattō...... (laughs), you sprinkle grated ginger on the cod roe and nattō, and put in the maguro's butsu and mix it up (laughs).

——Understood. I understand the gist of it. (Laughs). That'll no doubt be the new definition. Please talk about the horror of SF.

Azuma: SF...... Whilst in the closet, it grows bigger and bigger and then attacks you in the middle of the night (laughs).

——I knew it (laughs). Talk about the sorrow of SF.

Azuma: SF, you see, has a long history of abuse.

——So it's personal. As an SF fan, did you feel that was what awaited you?

Azuma: I did. Perhaps it's because I didn't have any friends like that around me back then, but whenever I try to talk about SF, people would tell me SF is full of lies (laughs)."

——Has SF been liberated?

Azuma: Personally, I don't feel liberated.

——Do you believe in UFOs?

Azuma: UFOs, hm, I haven't seen any, so I don't believe in them.

——Do you believe a UFO will come from somewhere?

Azuma: It'll come from deep within the mountains of Hokkaido (laughs).

——How much do you spend on SF per month?

Azuma: Well, maybe over a hundred thousand yen.

——Do you usually buy new books?

Azuma: No, not at all. About half.

——Is SF profitable?

Azuma: SF isn't profitable. Ah, well, some do make money, and some don't.

——Do you buy SF magazines?

Azuma: Yes, all of them.

——A few words for each of them. First, 'SF Magazine' (SFマガジン).

Azuma: Conventional.

——'Kisou Tengai' (奇想天外).

Azuma: 'Kisou Tengai' is...... Nice! (Laughs)

——'SF Adventure' (SFアドベンチャー).

Azuma: I want Tsutsui-san to appear more!

——'SF Hoseki' (SF宝石).

Azuma: The interviews are interesting.

——'Starlog' (スターログ).

Azuma: The fake information was interesting.

——Who is your favourite female author in SF......?

Azuma: Hagio-san.
※Hagio Moto (萩尾望都) (Wiki)

——What is currently the best SF manga ever?

Azuma: 'The Living City' (生物都市).

——What colour do you imagine from SF?

Azuma: It feels grey......

——Is there anything you want to say related to SF?

Azuma: Whatever the case, I want to read interesting SF manga and novels.

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S-ko-chan (エス子) and F-ko-chan (エフ子) to create SF.

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Azuma Hideo Interview 《PART Ⅲ》 Manga


"I want to draw SF, but I want to draw normal children's manga, something like 'Doraemon' that sells 100,000 copies (laughs). I want to draw a manga for Chika-chan (知佳) to read......"


——You seem to like Morohoshi-san when it comes to SF manga, but who are some other mangaka that you've been enjoying lately?

Azuma: Recently, along with Morohoshi-san, Takahashi Yousuke-san (高橋葉介), Takahashi Rumiko-san (高橋留美子), and Hosono Fujihiko-san (細野不二彦)......

——What sort of manga magazines do you read?

Azuma: 'Bessatsu Margaret' (別冊マーガレット), 'LaLa' (ララ), and 'Hana to Yume' (花とゆめ). As for shounen manga, 'Shounen Sunday' (少年サンデデー) and 'Shounen Jump' (少年ジャンプ). There's also 'Bessatsu Sunday' (別冊サンデー). I don't read very many seinen magazines.

——Say a few words for the mangaka you said you like. First, let's start with Morohoshi-san.

Azuma: Morohoshi-san, I want to read shounen SF! That squiggly one (laughs). Well, if it's Morohoshi-san's work, then I'm fine with anything.

——Takahashi Yousuke-san.

Azuma: I hope a lot more Bishoujo like Bun appear.
※Yoiyamidoori no Bun (宵闇通りのブン)

——Do you think Takahashi Yousuke-san will make it into the majors?

Azuma: He won't make it (laughs).

——What do you like about Takahashi-san?

Azuma: I like the sensation of his girls.

——What about Takahashi Rumiko-san......?

Azuma: Rumiko-san, I want Shinobu-chan to appear more (laughs).

——Hosono Fujihiko-san.

Azuma: Please give us something sexy (laughs).

——Are there any veterans or masters among the artists you like?

Azuma: Tezuka-san and Fujiko-san. But there aren't many Lolicon among the masters (laughs).

——What do you think about gekiga?

Azuma: I also read gekiga. Artists like Miyaya Kazuhiko (宮谷一彦) and Tsuge Tadao (つげ忠男)—!

——In your manga, you parody the works of artists like Abe Shin'ichi (安部慎一) and Tsuge Yoshiharu (つげ義春), but what about the seinen gekiga that were popular in the past?

Azuma: I liked them. Abe Shin'ichi for example. His stories were like pure literature among manga. The same vein as Nagashima (Shinji)-san (永島慎二).

——What about tankoubon gekiga or rental gekiga......?

Azuma: There were no rental bookstores, so I wasn't influenced very much. I don't know much about those things.

——What's the trick to collapsing manga magazines?

Azuma: That's not my fault (laughs).

——Do you have any comments on recent gag manga?

Azuma: I like gag manga and naïve manga. I don't enjoy stuff that's too eccentric.

——I heard you were also greatly influenced by Yamagami Tatsuhiko-san (山上たつひこ)......

Azuma: Ahh, ahh (laughs). That's because I really liked Yamagami-san.

——You said you were also influenced by adult manga, but......

Azuma: Shouji Sadao-san (東海林さだお), Fukuchi Housuke-san (福地泡介), and Sonoyama Shunji-san (園山俊二). I guess Shouji-san's influence is very strong.

——What about Tanioka Yasuji-san (谷岡ヤスジ)......?

Azuma: It's not the case with Tanioka-san. His sense is completely different!

——In the late 60s, Tanioka-san, Kurogane-san, and Hara-san, among others, emerged, but......
※Kurogane Hiroshi (黒鉄ヒロシ) (Wiki)
※Hara Taira (はらたいら) (Wiki)

Azuma: At that time, I was obsessed with shounen manga, so even though I read them, they didn't have much of an influence on me. I feel like I was more influenced by Koushin-san (コーシン).
※Kou Shintarou (高 信太郎)

——What tools do you use?

Azuma: Tools...... A pen (laughs), a kabura pen...... drawing ink. Pilot's security and drafting ink. The black solids are done with Indian ink. A plastic eraser. Construction paper. 135kg of calligraphy paper. The pencils are a 2B and a mechanical pencil.
※Pilot Ink (Link)

——It doesn't look like you use screen tones very much, but......

Azuma: I use them more than I used to (laughs).

——Why didn't you use them in the past?

Azuma: Because it's a hassle (laughs). Now I have assistants, so it's easier.

——Are all your pen-touches done with a kabura pen?

Azuma: That's right.

——I heard the art style is determined by the pen, but......

Azuma: Yeah. But I don't particularly enjoy superficial beauty.

——How about sports manga?

Azuma: I hate sports manga (laughs).

——Then would that include gutsy manga......?

Azuma: I hate gutsy manga (laughs).

——Then what about other manga genres......?

Azuma: None in particular, but I dislike period works. I hate period works and sports spirit.

——What are the conditions to be a mangaka?

Azuma: If you take me as an example...... My greatest trait is my haphazard personality.

——What is the key point of a mangaka?

Azuma: This is the key point.

——What steps do you take to draw manga, and how quickly does it take?

Azuma: I do a Name...... It takes about a day for the Name...... and then another day for the inking.

——How many pages do you draw per month?

Azuma: Around 60 to 90 pages.

——What number of pages is easiest to do?

Azuma: Zero pages is the easiest to do.

——Of the things you're currently drawing, what are you most excited about?

Azuma: Right now, 'Scrap School' (スクラップ学園).

——What do you think of the recent activity of Azuma fans?

Azuma: Hm, how do I put it (laughs)? I'm happy. I'm in awe, completely (laughs).

——Are there any mangaka you're close to?

Azuma: The ones I always drink with are a certain mahjong mangaka who doesn't sell well, and a certain kannou-gekigaka who doesn't sell well. We call ourselves the 'Cattleya Club' (カトレヤ同好会), and just play video games and drink. I don't have any other particular friends.

——Do you have any recent stories that are interesting to share?

Azuma: The other day, my assistant's father was searching for my work. But he couldn't find them anywhere (laughs). He asked if they were all sold out (laughs).

——He better come back soon (laughs)......

Azuma: He said that (laughs).

——Do you have any specific models for your characters, Azuma-san?

Azuma: There are no models for the protagonist class ones. There are sometimes models for passerby-like characters, but......

——Since last year or so, three abnormal characters have become popular, so I'd like to ask you about them, so let's start with Bukimi-san (不気味). Hashimoto Osamu-san (橋本治) said that one is a serious version of Azuma Hideo (laughs), but what do you think?

Azuma: Serious (laughs). That's true. At first, I drew him as a self-portrait, so...... he's correct.

——Bukimi-san has become more talkative than he used to be, but......

Azuma: Exactly. If I made him the protagonist, the story wouldn't move forward unless he spoke (laughs).

——So he was a naturally quiet personality?

Azuma: That's right. So, I made him a bit too cheerful, and 'Totsuzen Dr.' (とつぜんDr.) failed.

——Anything else you can share about Bukimi-san......?

Azuma: Rather than a simple self-portrait, he's a self-portrait I draw when I'm depressed.

——Will Bukimi-san continue to be active in the future?

Azuma: I think so. Characters that are easy to draw stick around. For me, characters that are easy to draw don't require much time or effort...... (laughs).

——For Bukimi-san, there's humans and robots, but what's their relationship?

Azuma: When they become robots, their personalities change, so they're fundamentally different. When they're robots, they become masochists. Ahh, or sadists (laughs).

——Are they normally masochists?

Azuma: Normally. So, it's not a transformation, I believe they're the same lineage, but different.

——About Sanzou-kun (三蔵). He made his debut with the role as a Sanzouhoushi (三蔵法師).
※Sanzouhoushi (三蔵法師) (Wiki)

Azuma: That's right.

——Does he have a model?

Azuma: Nope.

——What were you paying attention to when creating his character?

Azuma: At the time, I was trying to destroy Goku's image as a Sanzou as much as possible. So, as I continued drawing him, he gradually became more realistic.

——Was the object you were trying to destroy Tezuka-san's Sanzouhoushi?

Azuma: The general image......

——So, he became manly and hentai. Since then, he seems to be quite active......

Azuma: He didn't appear for a while, but I used him because I didn't have any other characters. Usually gag artists don't use old characters, but I thought it would be fine to use him.

——Will Sanzou-kun continue to be active in the future?

Azuma: I'm sure he'll be active...... (laughs).

——Next, I would like to ask you about Nahaha (ナハハ). What is his real name?

Azuma: It's......

——Is it Doctor Shicko Moror?

Azuma: Ahh, Doctor Moror......

——You made him the father in 'Fairy Forest' (妖精の森) in his debut.

Azuma: That's right.

——Is Nahaha the only one in the Nahaha clan to have hair? Do the others not have hair?

Azuma: I'm sure Dororon has some.

——The Nahaha clan consists of Trauma, Ninja, Snake, and Fairy King...... Is that all?

Azuma: I believe there's many more.

——I believe the master of Monmontei (悶々亭) is a relative or something similar.

Azuma: That one's different.

——What sort of personality setting does Nahaha have?

Azuma: He doesn't have any particular personality setting...... I guess he's the most abnormal character.

——He often plays the role of a landlord, but do you distinguish between the Landlord Nahaha and the Moror-type Nahaha?

Azuma: Well, isn't it fine for them to be together?

——He always appears in groups of two or three, is he using a cloning technique. Or......

Azuma: I guess he splits into two.

——Other than them, most of these characters are nameless. Did you give any of them special names. For example, Watabiki-san (ワタビキ)......?

Azuma: That's definitely Watabiki-san.

——Hasegawa-san (長谷川)...... The model's name is the same as the character's, but......

Azuma: That's right. He doesn't play a very important role.

——How many characters do you have?

Azuma: There's some I don't use very often, so not that many. I guess I have about 10 I use regularly.

——Itou-kun (伊藤) appears often, but I believe he's a 4th or 5th supporting character, but is he a normal person?

Azuma: He's not a very normal person.

——Was he modelled after your friend Itou-san?

Azuma: Yeah.

——So he's also that sort of person (laughs)?

Azuma: The real one is a slightly harder person, but......

——What happened to Porno Bug (ポルノ虫)?

Azuma: Porno Bug wasn't very interesting (laughs), so he naturally died.

——What about Fukinagashi (フキ流し)......?

Azuma: He seems to not show up very much these days. I sometimes use him.

——You often use fish, but do you like them?

Azuma: I like fish. The shape of their bodies.

——Dead horses often show up, though......

Azuma: Yeah. Dead horses, I like the lower half of horses (laughs).

——How about cats or dogs these days?

Azuma: Those. I used them too much, so they don't agree with me recently.

——In the past, you often draw characters with whites in their eyes......

Azuma: That's the influence of Hisakunihiko-san (ヒサクニヒコ). I liked the illustrations of 'Doctor Sunfish' (ドクトル・マンボウ).

——In the past, there were many monsters you characterised, but recently, they're somehow appearing more like passersby. Is there any thought behind this?

Azuma: Not really. I want to draw those sort of squiggly things as the background.

——What's the idea behind your trumpet tube spaceships?

Azuma: I like trumpet tubes (laughs). SF is very old (laughs). Tezuka-san's streamlined style...... I still have that sort of image in my head (laughs). I haven't progressed from it at all.

——The spaceship in 'Nova' (ノヴァ) was linear, and had a Hijiri Yuki-style (聖悠紀), but......

Azuma: That was drawn by an assistant who was a fan of Hijiri Yuki.

——Some fans are sad you've become major......

Azuma: Ehh!? I haven't become major.

——Is that so (laughs)?

Azuma: I don't know. I've tried to be major (laughs), and I've tried to be minor (laughs). Now I'm trying to be minor. Someone wrote it's a small boom (laughs).

——If you introduced more beautiful boy characters, you would be more popular with female fans, but......

Azuma: Ehh, I'll reflect on that (laughs).

——Is there any art, other than manga, that influenced you?

Azuma: I like surreal art. I like Magritte's art. I somehow feel relaxed in that sort of art.

——Out of the Shoujo characters you've drawn up to now, please tell me your 5 favourites.

Azuma: It used to be Methyl-chan (メチル). In terms of personality, there's Moko (モコ) and Asoko-san (阿素湖). Recently, there's Myaa-chan (ミャア). I like aggressive girls.

——Gags are finished in 2 or 3 panels, and the story jumps ahead, but do you give much thought to the overall flow of your stories?

Azuma: I don't give much thought (laughs).

——Recently......

Azuma: You mean what's coming next?

——Is there anything new you want to do......?

Azuma: A porno with a naïve Shounen (laughs).

——How about something that'll penetrate the majors?

Azuma: Like I said, a naïve Shounen manga.

——Wouldn't that be like a first love story?

Azuma: A daily life manga. Something like a daily life SF.

——How about illustrations or Cuts aside from manga?

Azuma: I want to draw one-panel manga like Magritte.

——You've drawn one-panel manga as well......

Azuma: I haven't drawn one recently. I like one-panel manga.

——Your works themselves seem to be one or two panel manga-like things, but......

Azuma: Ahh, perhaps.

——Is there a manga you want to draw? Can you give us a hint......?

Azuma: A dispassionate one. I can't draw anything with a story, so I'll do a dispassionate one. Hashimoto Osamu-san said a dispassionate one would be nice, so I think it'll be fine (laughs). But I don't believe there's a place for that sort of manga.

——Are the lines of your girls from your daily observations?

Azuma: That's right.

——Do the ideas for your gags come to you as you sit down and face your manuscript paper?

Azuma: Gags......? I see. Well, I think about them all the time, but they feel like they come out when I face the manuscript paper.

——What's your secret to coming up with ideas?

Azuma: Hmm. I'm not conscious of it myself, so I don't know. But lately, I've been consciously drawing nonsense.

——Do you usually write down your ideas in a notebook or something?

Azuma: I draw an image in a one-panel style. It doesn't come out as a gag. It's art I can use later.

——You get your ideas from art......?

Azuma: It's quick, like a one-panel manga.

——Of all the works you've drawn till now, which is your favourite?

Azuma: Generally, I'll say I like them, and I dislike them. But since it's mine, I cannot say anything.

——What is your most memorable work?

Azuma: Something I drew for 'Mangaoh'. From my early days.

——If you were to create a collection of your own works, which would you choose?

Azuma: I don't want to choose (laughs). I'm hopeless when it comes to what I've drawn. Choose them yourself (laughs)!

——Do you have any restrictions when drawing for a magazine?

Azuma: More or less.

——Are they restrictions you impose on yourself?

Azuma: Yes. It really depends on the magazine.

——Do you consider the venue for your presentations to some extent, and then come up with ideas?

Azuma: Yeah.

——I heard you were persecuted quite a bit, but......

Azuma: That's right. It depends on the magazine, but SF is still hated.

——Has the editorial department received any complaints about Azuma-san's laughter?

Azuma: Surely they have. I don't know. It's self-satisfaction.

——It seems they've eased quite a bit recently, though.

Azuma: That's because the place where I'm currently drawing is full of those sorts of people (laughs).

——On the other hand, do you ever find it difficult to draw what you're told to draw?

Azuma: It happens.

——Do you actually listen to what your editors say?

Azuma: I'll listen to what they say. If I'm told to draw such-and-such, I'll say 'yes' (laughs), and not resist.

——A word about your days of suffering.

Azuma: Well...... I was bullied by everyone and couldn't draw SF, which was a learning experience.

——As a mangaka, what do you think of the past one to two years?

Azuma: For now, I can somehow make a living, so I guess it's fine.

——How long do you think this situation will continue?

Azuma: It'll only last this year in the aftermath! Just barely!

——Suppose a critic said your days are numbered......

Azuma: If someone said that, I'll get over it (laughs). Then it'll be dodododo-hh. So before that happens, I'll try to transform as much as possible (laughs). But once I've fallen to rock bottom, I can feel secure no one will say anything (laughs).

——But since you've come this far, this will probably be your lifelong job.

Azuma: I'm not confident about that. If you examine history in general, only a few people survive. Everyone transforms. Even Gou-chan and George-san, who survived, transformed. I like SF, but I don't have a story disposition...... So, I cannot transform into a story artist. I'm not good at drawing, either.

——Wouldn't you like to try writing a short story like Fujiko-san (藤子)?

Azuma: I thought about it, but I believe everyone's constitution is different. I just can't make it work. It tends to get messy halfway through (laughs). That's why I'm thinking of drawing things you want to read simply for their mood.

——Though Tezuka-san once said you could probably draw fantasy......

Azuma: Me? Yeah, I'll draw. ...... I'll draw (laughs).

——I guess the recent one you did for 'Manga Kisoutengai' (マンガ奇想天外) (Kaerimichi [帰り道]) was close.

Azuma: It doesn't have any story spirit, though. It seems like it has a story, but not really......

——But you do have a habit of including gags in your works.

Azuma: Yeah. I don't know which direction they'll go.

——If there was a place you could draw fantasy, where would you like to draw it?

Azuma: I can draw it, but it's minor (laughs).

——Fans shouting that 'Rolling Ambivalent Hold' (ローリング・アンビバレンツ・ホールド) is good are increasing, and......

Azuma: But it's minor.

——I thought there were few gags, but everyone's trying to make it into a controversial work......

Azuma: That's because it's actually a controversial work (laughs).

——What sort of things do you want to draw in the future?

Azuma: I want to draw SF, but I want to draw normal children's manga, something like 'Doraemon' that sells 100,000 copies (laughs).

——I see.

Azuma: I want to draw a manga for Chika-chan (知佳) to read......

——You want to raise your child by having her read your own manga.

Azuma: No (laughs). I won't let her read my manga. I'll make her read shoujo manga (laughs).

——In what you want to draw in the future, what are you going to be paying special to, things like the characters, or things like the lines......?

Azuma: After all, I want to create a manga that sells all over the world. That's what I'm aiming for, and I'm working hard every day and night (laughs). I want to draw manga that appears in newspapers all around the world every day and live a comfortable life (laughs)."

——Basically, an overseas expansion of 'Sazae-san' (サザエさん).

Azuma: Yes, yes.

——What exactly does manga mean to you? What do you pay special attention to?

Azuma: Well (laughs), I guess if you can draw what you like, that's good. In short, it's something you, yourself, enjoy (laughs).

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Azuma Hideo Interview 《Part Ⅳ》 Daily Life


"Since long ago, I've always liked the colour brown. Though it's often called a beggar's colour (laughs). Its smell is...... Ehh, the smell of boiled potatoes...... The sound of my everyday life...... The sound of eating rice (laughs)."


——First, I'd like to ask for some basic data, but did you only recently find out your blood type is O?

Azuma: I recently got it checked before I had my kid. My wife is also type O.

——What's your height and weight......?

Azuma: What did I say the other day......? Let's make it 162, no 163 (laughs), 165 would be nice (laughs). I don't think my weight has changed from 52.

——What is your bust, waist, and hip size?

Azuma: Err, I don't know.

——Your foot size.

Azuma: Maybe 95.

——How many pairs of underwear do you own?

Azuma: Underwear...... I don't know.

——Briefs?

Azuma: Briefs.

——Do you go to the barber?

Azuma: I go once a year. Rest of the time I do it myself at home. I do the front myself. If I mess up, I'll get my wife to fix it (laughs).

——How often do you bathe?

Azuma: Once every two days, but if I'm busy, I don't bathe.

——Do you use any men's cosmetics?

Azuma: Lip cream, that's it. I don't use any hair products.

——What do you use to shave your beard?

Azuma: I shave my beard with an electric razor.

——How many neckties do you own?

Azuma: Let's see...... Around three!

——You're dressed casually today, but do you generally prefer casual clothes? Are you interested in fashion?

Azuma: I pay attention to fashion because there's times I'll use it in my manga, but it doesn't have an impact on me personally.

——Do you look at magazines to see what girls are wearing?

Azuma: I don't look at magazines. I look at people walking around......

——In other words, you sketch based on your every day observations?

Azuma: No. I'll remember it, and go into a coffee shop to make a memo.

——So, you don't get any inspiration from magazines for fashion?

Azuma: Sometimes.

——Meaning you personally don't pay much attention to fashion.

Azuma: Yes.

——Explains the similar feeling for the past decade......

Azuma: That's right (laughs).

——What's your favourite colour?

Azuma: Since long ago, I've always liked the colour brown. Though it's often called a beggar's colour (laughs).

——You're not very fond of primary colours?

Azuma: Yeah.

——How does it smell?

Azuma: Its smell is...... Ehh, the smell of boiled potatoes......

——The simple smell of dinner being prepared. I see. What sort of sound do you like? What's your every day sound?

Azuma: The sound of my everyday life...... The sound of eating rice (laughs).

——When you work, is it better to have some noise? Or none?

Azuma: Some is fine.

——Are you able to work when others are around?

Azuma: I prefer to be alone when I'm thinking of ideas, but I don't mind when I'm inking.

——What BGM do you often listen to while you work......?

Azuma: Well, I don't listen very much. I listen to traditional comic storytelling (落語) and late-night radio shows.

——What sort of music did you listen to while growing up?

Azuma: I wasn't really conscious of music, so...... I wonder.

——What was your grade in music during elementary school... (laughs)?

Azuma: About 3. I guess that's normal. I had a loud voice, so maybe 4 (laughs). No, I think it's 3!

——Have you listened to any folk songs since you came here?

Azuma: At first, I wasn't very interested, but then I started listening to Okabayashi Nobuyasu-san (岡林信康) (laughs), and the one I like most is Mikami Kan (三上寛).

——Basically, you prefer roaring guitars......

Azuma: I really like the roaring.

——What about western pop?

Azuma: I liked Nancy Sinatra. I own nothing but Nancy Sinatra records.

——Are there any other singers from over there you like?

Azuma: Hmm, none at all.

——So you're a nationalist (laughs). Explain the process of shifting from Mikami Kan to a cute girl singer......?

Azuma: I gradually grew bored of folk music.

——Didn't you use to listen to Yoshida Takuro (吉田拓郎) as well? Around that time, you shifted to listening to Okazaki Yuki (岡崎由紀)......

Azuma: I like Takuro, and listen to him a lot. Takuro, Izumiya (Shigeru), and Okazaki Yuki operated simultaneously. But I didn't listen to their songs. First, post a photo (laughs).

——Was this around 'My Wife Is 18 Years Old' (奥様は18歳)?

Azuma: Yeah.

——I see. And since then, there's The Lilies (リリーズ), Agnes Chan (アグネス・チャン), and Hayashi Hiroko (林寛子)...... (laughs). You're not too keen on music these days?

Azuma: I haven't listened to much recently. I can't really concentrate.

——I heard you used to play the guitar when you were listening to folk music. How good were you? I heard you could play 'Farewell Samba' (別れのサンバ).

Azuma: Yeah, I used to play it! (Laughs) I learned all those complicated chords. Once I stopped practising, I immediately forgot them. It's so difficult (laughs).

——I heard you also composed music.

Azuma: I couldn't compose a song in the end (laughs). All I could come up with were melodies I heard somewhere before.

——So you stopped because you felt it lacked originality?

Azuma: Yes, that's right.

——What did you think listening to the Nakajima Azusa Band (中島梓バンド)?

Azuma: Hmm, I thought they were really good (laughs). Professional level...... Though I didn't understand it at all. Maybe cause it was too loud (laughs).

——I heard there were plans to do a talk with Agnes Chan here and there in the past, but in the end, that never came to fruition?

Azuma: In the end, both of us were too minor...... We were not newsworthy (laughs).

——How were you in arts and crafts?

Azuma: 3 or 4.

——What subjects were you good at?

Azuma: I was okay with Japanese. I wasn't particularly good at anything.

——What subjects were you bad at?

Azuma: English and math.

——Did you receive any rewards or punishments? Like saving a life (laughs) or a drawing contest?

Azuma: Hmm, no luck (laughs). I did get selected, and did manage to get to the point of submitting something, but...... Nothing came of it.

——At one time, mahjong often appeared in your manga. Were you interested in it at the time?

Azuma: Yeah. When I first started.

——The way you talk, it sounds like you don't have many fond memories (laughs), what happened?

Azuma: I kept losing (laughs).

——Why did you quit?

Azuma: I suddenly lost interest. I was also really into shogi for about half a year, but then I suddenly lost interest and quit (laughs).

——Other forms of gambling, for example, pachinko......?

Azuma: I was also into pachinko for a while, but I quit (laughs).

——What about bicycle or horse racing?

Azuma: Not interested. Wasn't interested.

——Do you buy any lottery tickets?

Azuma: My wife buys them (laughs). But she never wins. She didn't win this year, either (laughs).

——What other things have you been interested in but ended up quitting? Things like bowling or billiards.

Azuma: I used to play billiards as well, but......

——Why do you think you stopped?

Azuma: Because I couldn't improve. I'm a perfectionist (laughs), so I get frustrated (laughs).

——So, is there anything you're confident in where you're better than anyone else?

Azuma: Nothing in particular (laughs). Ehh, what was it? Yeah, nothing.

——You seem to be pretty particular about food, but what do you like? Anything besides nattō and cod roe (laughs)?

Azuma: I haven't eaten boils potatoes and beans with miso sauce lately. Got bored of them.

——Do you generally prefer salty foods?

Azuma: Yeah.

——What about western food?

Azuma: I don't like them very much.

——Things like curry......?

Azuma: I like it. But you can't get Hokkaido-style curry out here.

——How many meals a day?

Azuma: Two meals.

——How much rice?

Azuma: A lot.

——You're a surprisingly light eater. What was on your menu last night?

Azuma: Boiled potatoes (laughs). Tororo Osuimono (トロロのお吸い物). And then.....
※Osuimono is a soup made from bonito flakes and kelp, seasoned with salt and soy sauce, and containing meat, seafood, and vegetables. Tororo is grated yam.

——So your wife is adjusting to her husband's tastes. Are you the type that cannot eat if you don't have a lot of side dishes?

Azuma: Yeah, that's right. It's better with a lot of side dishes.

——Anything you dislike......?

Azuma: Nothing in particular I dislike.

——Since when did you start drinking?

Azuma: I've been drinking since long ago, but I've only been drinking intensively for the past six years.

——So you'll have a drink at home?

Azuma: Rather than an evening drink, it's more like a drink before going to bed. A nightcap after work.

——Do you ever get together with everyone to have a few drinks?

Azuma: About once a month.

——How old were you when you smoked your first cigarette?

Azuma: High school, third year, 17. 'Wakaba' (laughs).

——How many cigarettes do you smoke a day now?

Azuma: When I'm not working, I smoke about two packs (40). When I'm working, I smoke at least one cigarette. If I have to work longer, I smoke more......

——When it comes to alcohol, do you prefer Japanese or Western liquor?

Azuma: On average, they're about the same. Depends on the mood.

——What about coffee......?

Azuma: I drink 5 or 6 cups a day, maybe 3 at a coffee shop and the rest while at work.

——What brand do you recommend......?

Azuma: I only drink Blue Mountain (ブルーマウンテン).

——Please tell me a proud story about Chika-chan (知佳).

Azuma: Chika-chan's eyes are different sizes and she can move them independently.

——What kind of daughter do you want to raise?

Azuma: A beauty (laughs).

——Are you going to keep raising her in Oizumi?

Azuma: I don't know.

——Do you think it's fine for your daughter to be alone?

Azuma: I don't particularly mind...... I'll leave that to my wife.

——You don't really want to have a boy?

Azuma: I don't want a boy.

——What's the most embarrassing thing that has ever happened to you?

Azuma: I won't say (laughs).

——Give us the gist of it.

Azuma: I don't want to remember (laughs).

——I'd like to ask you about cats. Are you quite fond of them?

Azuma: Cats...... Cats are interesting.

——How many have you raised till now?

Azuma: Three. Linlin, Hakku, and Kuki. I'm not raising them now.

——Did you pick them up off the street yourself?

Azuma: I bought and picked them up off the street.

——That reminds me, it seems there are a lot of cat lovers among mangaka. Do you prefer cats or dogs?

Azuma: I'm not too attached to either. They're just cute to have.

——Have you ever wanted to raise a pet other than those two?

Azuma: Haven't really thought about it. It's too much of a hassle...... It's a responsibility after all. I think about that a lot.

——What about your tubifex worms......?

Azuma: I had them for a while, but they all died (laughs).

——It's better when they can respond to you, right?

Azuma: That's right.

——If you hadn't become a mangaka, what would you have been?

Azuma: I think I would've been a craftsman, someone who makes small things.

——I heard you once wanted to be a tofu maker......

Azuma: I wanted to (laughs). But I don't want to work at a tofu shop cause it requires getting up early in the morning and it's exhausting.

——What novels do you read besides SF?

Azuma: Some Dazai Osamu (太宰治).

——Anyone else?

Azuma: Kita Morio-san's (北杜夫) 'Sunfish' (マンボウ) series and pure literature. Recently, Yamaguchi Hitomi-san (山口瞳) and stuff from weekly magazines. Kannou and mystery stuff, you see. I also read Kawakami Muneshige-san (川上宗薫) occasionally.

——What is your daily life philosophy?

Azuma: My goal this year is to turn my work into play, turn my manga into play... and turn drinking into my job.

——What is your goal for this year?

Azuma: To become major this year.

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Azuma Hideo Interview 《Part Ⅴ》 Lolita


"Her hair should be black. Her eyes should be big and narrow. Her lips should be small and cute, her cheeks should be puffy, and she should be as short as possible. She should look like she would burst into tears easily."


——Regarding Azuma-san, recently, people often say you're the 'Lolicon Emperor', but......

Azuma: Nobody's saying that (laughs).

——Well, that's what I'm told...... (laughs), recently, there's been lots of fans like that, but do those people come visit you (laughs)?

Azuma: Most of them are university students. Though there's some high schoolers......

——I believe this will give us an insight into Lolicon, so have you noticed anything about them?

Azuma: Most of them are anime fans with a few mecha fans mixed in (laughs), they also like SF quite a lot......

——How do I put this? Do you ever feel like you share some responsibility for the recent Lolicon Boom?

Azuma: I've also experienced those symptoms and was affected, so it's not really my fault.

——I see. However, they say the girls Azuma-san draws have been cute since long ago, so many such people became your fans, but......

Azuma: Hmm, is that so (laughs)? I don't know.

——Do you like drawing girls?

Azuma: Yeah. Regardless of the girl, I'll draw them cutely. That's the theme of my art.

——Has that been the case since your debut?

Azuma: Yes. I practised on only drawing girls.

——When you turn girls into art, what do you find charming?

Azuma: Hmm, I don't know.

——For example, which parts do you draw particularly cutely, such as their eyes, nose, or mouth?

Azuma: The lines of their cheeks.

——Do you think of yourself as a Lolicon?

Azuma: I'm a Hobby Lolicon.

——It seems there's some fans who are striving every day to become Lolicon like Azuma-san. Do you have any words for them?

Azuma: What do you mean by that (laughs)? Let's see, this is hard (laughs).

——I believe there's something like a certain aesthetic towards Shoujo, but what do you think?

Azuma: Even though they're Lolicon, everyone has different tastes. They're quite divided.

——Please say a few words about each of the four famous Lolicon characters. Alice, Cybele, Jennie, and Lolita......

Azuma: Alice, I grew quite fond of her when I read her story long ago.

——Do you believe something like Sawatari Hajime-san's (沢渡朔) 'Alice' is close to the image you have in mind?

Azuma: It seems to be very close. That one is also popular among Lolicon (laughs).

——Regarding Cybele......

Azuma: Cybele is the closest to my ideal...... In terms of her age, I think she would be a good subject, a good subject of action (laughs).

Azuma: And I think the best part about Jennie is watching her grow up (laughs). What am I saying (laughs)?

——Where would you like her to stop (laughs)?

Azuma: The process of growing up (laughs), the transformation itself is good. It's interesting to see her grow up gradually, and then change right before your eyes (laughs). But to force that...... No, no (laughs).

——What about Lolita......?

Azuma: Lolita, after all, it's scary, but good.

——So, among these four, who do you prefer?

Azuma: After all, I guess it's Cybele.

——Which do you prefer, Eastern or Western?

Azuma: Eastern. The nose isn't too high.

——What are the conditions of a Bishoujo in your mind, Azuma-san? Once fulfilled, perhaps she'll become your wife (laughs).

Azuma: Her hair should be black. Her eyes should be big and narrow. Her lips should be small and cute, her cheeks should be puffy, and she should be as short as possible. She should look like she would burst into tears easily.

——What about her age......?

Azuma: For me, after all, 18. From 13 to 14. A little older is fine, but that area is......

——What do you think about those oriented towards Youjo?

Azuma: There's not much to imagine.

——After all, when it comes to 4 or 5, that area becomes......

Azuma: Well, if that's what they like......

——In this shape, Azuma-san's Lolicon was formed (laughs).

Azuma: Really (laughs)?

——Which other mangaka do you believe are Lolicon?

Azuma: Well, it's safe to say most people who draw cute girls are Lolicon (laughs).

——Which ones do you believe draw girls cute?

Azuma: Right now, I like people like Hosono Fujihiko-san. And I also like Takahashi Yousuke-san.

——I heard you have Aichmophobia, but do you believe there's a relationship between Lolicon and Aichmophobia?

Azuma: There's a deep meaning behind it, there's a deep relationship, I'm sure (laughs).

——What sort of girls appearing in SF novels do you like?

Azuma: Hmm, I can't think of any. Ahh, I like the girls in 'More Than Human'.

——What about anime?

Azuma: Angie of course...... Clarisse was also good. The characters Miyazaki-san (宮崎) draws, including his girls, have a strong core. That part is a bit dangerous.

——In Azuma-san's manga, your faces used to be long in the past, but have gradually become shorter. Is this a change in preference?

Azuma: That's right. Back then, I was studying preparatory drawing, so it was a time I went crazy (laughs).

——If you were to dress a Shoujo in something, would you pick bloomers, pantsu, or panties?

Azuma: After all, panties. But I'm not too interested in underwear.

——When you draw manga, what do you do? I believe it's impossible to observe this in the city, but...... (laughs).

Azuma: Because I have an assistant who is good at drawing underwear, I have them take the lead in drawing them.

——If you turned into a Bishoujo, what would be the first thing you do?

Azuma: Check out my body (laughs).

——And after that......?

Azuma: After that, I'll put on a frilly outfit (laughs).

——Would that be a desire to crossdress......?

Azuma: Maybe.

——If you were to be reborn again, would you prefer to be a man or a woman?

Azuma: After all, a Bishoujo (laughs).

——Whether or not you're born beautiful is another matter (laughs), but would you rather be a man or a woman......?

Azuma: Even if I'm not beautiful, I would sell my body while I'm still young (laughs).

——I believe Azuma-san's manga stimulates those types of Lolicon, but I believe there's something else to your manga besides the cuteness of the girls......

Azuma: Yeah, things like personality. I pay close attention to what make the girl's movements as cute as possible.

——Have any of your fans said anything to you about that aspect?

Azuma: They say it's kinda cute, things like that. Well, no one wrote any detailed reviews.

——If you were to bully a girl, how would you go about it?

Azuma: I don't really like bullying girls, so something like 'Millennium Zero' (ミレニアム・ゼロ). I mean mentally bully them.

——You mean torture them mentally?

Azuma: Make them cry.

——You seem to like girls who cry, but was it like that when you were little? Making girls cry......

Azuma: They made me cry, every day (laughs).

——So you could call this revenge...... (laughs)?

Azuma: That was back in elementary school (laughs).

——Do you remember the names of the other party?

Azuma: I remember, but won't say (laughs).

——Is there anything else regarding Lolicon?

Azuma: Let's see. Many people nowadays are those with an Alice Hobby.

——Yeah, they're much younger than Lolita.

Azuma: Youjo-oriented. Youjo, or what they call Alice! They're way worse than me!

——How are they worse (laughs)?

Azuma: They're unable to marry for the rest of their life! (Laughs)

——Ohh (laughs). Do you have any thoughts on guiding such people onto the correct path (laughs)?

Azuma: I believe they should be destroyed (laughs).

——You're going to be continuing to draw girls cutely in your manga in the future......

Azuma: I don't know about that.

——'Pollon' in particular, she's what you would call a Youjo, she's very small (laughs). Did you draw her with male fans in mind?

Azuma: No, I didn't have them in mind. That was to be favourably received...... by girls. Though, she has a bad reputation (laughs).

——Normally, if you draw a cute girl for boys, you get some backlash from girls, but that wasn't the case for you, was it, Azuma-san?

Azuma: As far as I could tell, I didn't get much backlash.

——Well, they're different from reality, the ones that are Azuma-san's ideal Shoujo.

Azuma: I guess that's true. Hence why I wonder why I'm well-receive by women.

——Surprisingly, it seems you have a lot of female fans......

Azuma: Perhaps I have an advantage with my art style. Because it's round art.

——Sailor blouses (laughs). Which do you prefer, the summer or winter uniform?

Azuma: Recently, I've grown fond of the summer uniform.

——Do you enjoy drawing sailor blouses?

Azuma: I like drawing them (laughs).

——Finally, some words of wisdom to all the Lolicon fans across the country.

Azuma: Our time is near!

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Yonezawa Yoshihiro: "Please say a few words about each of the four famous Lolicon characters. Alice, Cybele, Jennie, and Lolita......"

Before translating this interview, I had never heard of Jennie, so it took a while to research which book or film she originated from.

Alice: Alice in Wonderland (不思議の国のアリス)

English Novel: 1865; Translated numerous times into Japanese with the first being in 1908.

You could fill entire libraries with all the media influenced by Alice in Wonderland, even the ones where Alice is treated as a sex symbol.

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Cybele: Sundays and Cybèle (シベールの日曜日)
French Film: 1962; Japan Localisation: 1963 April 3rd and June 15th

Azuma Hideo's favourite; I think it's worthwhile to watch for the cinematography alone.

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Jennie: Portrait of Jennie (ジェニーの肖像)
American Novel: 1939, American Film: 1948

Similar to Alice in Wonderland, there's several translations of the novel into Japanese with the first in 1950, and several others in 1954, 1959, and 2005. The Japanese film localisation was released in 1951. At the moment, I'm completely unaware of this novel's influence within manga or anime, but there's a historically relevant photobook called 'Portraits of Jennies' (ジェニー達の肖像) (Wiki) published in 1998 prior to the 1999 law that had a profound effect on the manga, anime, and game industry, leading to the Kinokuniya Incident.

One Japanese reviewer says he was reminded of 'Portrait of Jennie' when he saw the Ghibli Film 'Omoide no Marnie' (思い出のマーニー), particularly the lighthouse and silo scenes between both works.


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Lolita: Lolita (ロリータ)
Russian-American Novel: 1955, American Film: 1962

The first translation of the novel in Japanese was in 1959, which had illustrations of Lolita (Dolores Haze) with big boobs.
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Then in 1962, another Japanese edition of the novel was published with a cover based on the 1962 film by Stanley Kubrick, who had a 14 year-old actress play Lolita because Stanley Kubrick wanted the audience to be attracted to her. Japanese comparison of the two novel translations (1959 and 2005) of Lolita (Link).

In 1959, an essay called 'Simone de Beauvoir: Brigitte Bardot And The Lolita Syndrome' (ブリジット・バルドーとロリータ症候群) was published (English Version on Internet Archive). There's an expression called French Lolita (フレンチロリータ), which in Japan is synonymous with what people understand as idols. I'm unsure of the influence of Brigitte Bardot, but 'Syndrome' is very common in Japanese, the first Lolicon manga by Uchiyama Aki in Lemon People was called 'Lolicon Syndrome', the game published by Enix by that one mangaka was called 'Lolita Syndrome', and the anthology by Fusion Product from the 1980s to early 2000s was called Lolita Syndrome (美少女症候群).

Lolita Complex (ロリータ・コンプレクス) by Russell Trainer was localised in Japanese in 1969. The term 'Lolita Complex' is based on the information in this book though the abbreviation 'Lolicon' originated in an underground magazine. (English Version on Internet Archive)

I don't know where 'Lolicon has nothing to do with the book' came from, but these words came from books. People should read these books, so they have an opinion that may be worthwhile.



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Azuma Hideo Critique
Open Secret Rendezvous on the Operating Table

Yonezawa Yoshihiro (米沢嘉博) (Wiki)


<Not Translated>


Yonezawa gives a thorough critique of Azuma Hideo's manga. The three sacred treasures of Azuma Hideo being SF, Bishoujo, and hentai characters, and his ability to juxtapose abstract and concrete, concepts and words, and reality and unreality. Leading to SF fans rejoicing in the parodies, declaring themselves Lolicon, befriending the hentai characters and worshipping them as heroes.


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Translated two paragraphs from this article:
What defines Azuma's manga is its neat and tidy 'art'. On a different level from the corporeal art of Yamagami Tatsuhiko (山上たつひこ) and others, it is 'art as a symbol' in the style of Tezuka's manga. The problem of what the depicted object represents has enabled manga to speak and to describe. Meaning, manga art can be said to be art as words. Of course, the complexity of manga art lies in the fact it is much more than that, but the manga screen, which has always struggled with moving images, has continued to fluctuate. The gap between film and manga. I believe you'll get the idea if I say on one side there's Ootomo Katsuhiro (大友克洋) and on the other side there's Azuma Hideo. However, art contains much more information than a single word.
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Azuma Hideo's Shoujo are cute because of the way they're drawn, but more than that, they evoke all manner of emotions. The Shoujo are nothing more than drawings, and perhaps because of their lack of personality, they allow the reader to imagine them. Because they're symbols, the whole they reference is more ideal than flesh-and-blood Shoujo, and each one is free in their own way. The word 'Bishoujo' is perhaps more erotic than Hiroko or Brooke Shields. It acts as a trigger that draws out something inside the psyche. The Shoujo drawn by Azuma Hideo have a similar effect. The place where anima emerges is Azuma World.

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I believe you'll get the idea if I say on one side there's Ootomo Katsuhiro (大友克洋) and on the other side there's Azuma Hideo.
While there's a dearth of information on Azuma Hideo in English, I noticed the English wikipedia article on New Wave mentions Ootomo Katsuhiro, but failed to include Azuma Hideo, who was the other prominent New Wave mangaka. They're often included for various types of New Wave projects and special features. For example, in 'Manga Laugh School' (まんが笑学校), they did a special feature where they had Ootomo Katsuhiro's wife and Azuma Hideo's wife draw a manga. Ootomo's wife had zero manga experience, whereas it's pretty clear Mrs. Azuma is capable of doing a proper yonkoma manga about their daughter Chika-chan and her habit for not only twirling her hair, but other people's hair in her sleep.

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Left: Azuma Hideo, Middle: Ootomo Katsuhiro, Right: Watanabe Kazuhiko (渡辺和博)

Manga by Mrs. Ootomo:

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Manga by Mrs. Azuma:
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There's also a special feature on Superman, and they had Ootomo Katsuhiro and Azuma Hideo write their own perspective on the American Comicbook Superhero, Superman (Osamu Tezuka and Fujiko Fujio also had their own Superman segments).

Azuma Hideo 'Me and Superman':

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Ootomo Katsuhiro 'Me and Superman':
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Azuma Hideo Late Night Beauty Talk
Yoshida Akimi VS Azuma Hideo


Yoshida Akimi (吉田秋生) (Wikipedia)

Yoshida Akimi, a huge fan of Azuma Hideo, visited 'Mukiryoku Pro' a certain month of a certain day late at night. Their talk continued until the glowing light of dawn.


Yoshida:
I still don't understand what 'warp' means. I've been keeping silent because I know I'll be ridiculed if I say this......

Azuma: Even I don't know that (laughs). Cause I'm inner-space-focused (laughs).



●Boys, Girls

Yoshida:
What sort of girl do you like?

Azuma: Hm—mm.

Yoshida: For example, from a movie......

Azuma: I would say 'Sundays and Cybèle'...... It opened my eyes to that sort of sadness and motherly love......

Yoshida: But she's a little devilish, or fairy-ish? Is that what you like?

Azuma: Though, I'm fine with anything (laughs).

Yoshida: If it's a girl (laughs).

Azuma: It doesn't particularly need to be a girl......

Yoshida: Ehh? It doesn't need to be a girl?

Azuma: Well, I mean it could be an adult woman (laughs)......

Yoshida: Ahh, I see. You surprised me (laughs).

Azuma: What were you thinking (laughs)?

Yoshida: Well, that you liked boys.

Azuma: I hate boys (laughs). Yoshida-san, what do you like?

Yoshida: Men? Oh, let's see. One who's firmly built and slim with good muscle quality (laughs).
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●Was Only Drawing Manga......
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●Will We Fly into Space...!?
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●Let's Take it Easy...
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Like how the book 'Azuma Hideo <Complete Special Feature> Bishoujo, SF, Absurd Gags, and Disappearance' (吾妻ひでお〈総特集〉美少女・SF・不条理ギャグ、そして失踪) had a talk between Azuma Hideo and Yamamoto Naoki (aka Moriyama Tou), who was a huge fan of Azuma Hideo. This is a talk between the famous shoujo mangaka Yoshida Akimi, who was also a huge fan of Azuma Hideo. Tried searching for both Yoshida Akimi and Azuma Hideo in English, and got this Yoshida Akimi fansite from 2001 that's in both Japanese and English (Link).

I only translated a snippet of their conversation I thought was funny; there's this silly thing about Azuma Hideo trying to destroy Yaoi at Comiket in 'Disappearance Diary', and some westerner incorrectly interpreted this as Azuma Hideo being 'homophobic'...

Azuma: Youjo-oriented. Youjo, or what they call Alice! They're way worse than me!

——How are they worse (laughs)?

Azuma: They're unable to marry for the rest of their life! (Laughs)

——Ohh (laughs). Do you have any thoughts on guiding such people onto the correct path (laughs)?

Azuma: I believe they should be destroyed (laughs).
While it should go without saying for anyone who has been properly reading the translations in this thread, Azuma Hideo was on friendly terms with Hirukogami Ken, so him saying people like Hirukogami Ken should be destroyed shouldn't be interpreted as Azuma hating him with every fibre of his being, same goes for his comment about destroying Yaoi from Comiket. Even the Lolicon Complete Works has Yaoi between Azuma Hideo and Uchiyama Aki, and in the same issue, Azuma Hideo did a manga about all of the Lolicon being destroyed (things getting destroyed is a common theme in Azuma's manga; everything getting destroyed in 'Absurd Diary' influenced the anime 'Evangelion').

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EXTRAS:

"Asoko—I cannot Speak English" Mock Movie Poster:
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In this special feature, SF doesn't mean Science Fiction, it means Sailor Fuku (you'll have to purchase this book to see the sailor fuku).

Characters Azuma Hideo modelled after Real People:

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Left to Right: Kamewada Takeshi (亀和田武), Oguchi (from the New Wave magazine 'Kisou Tengai'), Arai Motoko (新井素子), and Ishikawa Jun (いしかわじゅん).

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Top Row: Kawamoto Kouji (1 is his appearance in 'Mimi', 2 is his appearance in 'Buratto Bunny', and 3 is his appearance in 'Scrap School').
Mid-Row Right: Agnes Chan (Hahaha...)
Bottom-Row Right: Ajima Shun (Yonezawa Yoshihro, a man born to critique Azuma Hideo, who appears in 'Buratto Bunny').
Agnes Chan
The Mr.Dandy article claims that the model, Agnes Lum, was the harbinger of the Lolicon Boom. But when she was younger, Agnes Chan was considered a Loli and an object of 'Moe', and Azuma Hideo featured her in his manga. It's believed by this Japanese blogger her insatiable hatred of Lolicon and desire to ban Bishoujo manga stems from a deep, 40-year-old grudge of how she was treated by Azuma Hideo, the originator of Moe (Link).

Christian Idol Agnes Chan Being Molested by Asoko Soko in Desperate Angel:

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Agnes Chan and Agnes Lum:
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Scrap School Myaa-chan's High Socks :
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During the long interview in 2011, the interviewer assumed Sham Cat was based on Chibineko because Myaa-chan's high-socks were based on the way Ooshima Yumiko (大島 弓子), the creator of Chibineko, drew her high socks. I saw this mock-classified advertisement along with a bunch of others (a vinyl pop-up book for Lolicon, degenerate fashion so you can look like Hirukogami Ken):
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Sham Cat Anime Information:

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Absurd Diary English Mock-up:
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There's a short 3-page article about Azuma Hideo's manga appearing overseas, and among the ones in Chinese, and a mock-up German version of 'Desperate Angel', they did a mock-up for 'Absurd Diary' in English, hoping an English publisher will buy this book and see the mock-up, because that's the one work Azuma Hideo wanted to see translated the most into English. To be honest, this work would be a huge pain to translate properly into English; you would need to read both the English and Japanese localisations of way too many SF works so you convey the subtle references properly.

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Chart-style
Genealogy of Bishoujo in Azuma Manga

Endou Yuichi (エンドウ・ユイチ) (Wiki)


<Not Translated>


This is a much longer version of the article Endou Yuichi (aka Endou Satoshi) wrote for the Fusion Product issue in the OP I translated earlier; this one goes over most of Azuma Hideo's Bishoujo characters. In the same Fusion Product issue, Endou Yuichi also drew a map—similar to the one used in this article—about Lolicon and its relationship to everything around it called Sick Wars. The most interesting thing about the Fusion Product map is the part where Lolicon is directly linked to something I doubt anyone here has ever heard about called King Mark Complex. To understand Lolicon, one needs to understand King Mark Complex; it's why Azuma Hideo says he's a Hobby Lolicon and that young people shouldn't be calling themselves Lolicon.

Asoko Soko Group Map:

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Healthy Pure Route Group Map:
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Female Delinquent Group Map:
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(Clinical) Case Report Character Map:
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Nanako Syndrome Map:
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Well, here's Nanako from 'Nanako SOS' (Wiki). I have no bloody idea how anyone with eyeballs and a brain would assume she's based in any way on Clarisse from 'Castle of Cagliostro'. Her hairstyle and personality are totally different. The only time I've seen anyone make a Clarisse comparison when it came to an Azuma Hideo work was a blog where someone said some background character in the 'Olympus no Pollon' anime looked like Clarisse (Link):
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Azuma Hideo doesn't model his protagonist-tier characters after other anime characters or real people; at most they're side characters, like the appearance of Kawamoto Kouji, and the other people shared earlier. Nanako's manga had a prototype version released in the 1979 January issue of 'Peke' where her character was simply called Supergirl (すーぱーがーる) almost a year before the Studio Ghibli movie hit theatres. The name Nanako was given to the character because Azuma Hideo thought it sounded weak.
Shoujo Among Shoujo Manga Map:

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There's a line from Tayou Yuuko (太陽夕子) from 'Flap-Flap Donkey' (翔べ翔べドンキー) that leads to Nanako.

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You, Too, Can Become a Lolicon!?
Maybe...


By Bishoujo Press (美少女通信社)

Illustration: Inuneko Usagizaemon (いぬねこ・うさぎざえもん) (Wiki)
※Alternate penname for Toyoshima Yuusaku (豊島ゆーさく).


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It's now one in the morning. I just got a call from Alice on the telephone, and I'm invited to her party. I don't know what kinda party, but apparently, she's having a party cause she collected fifty of these things called tankoubon. Anyways, I also decided to attend the party cause Alice said, "I'm going to be wearing my best dress." The party is gonna start in twelve hours. I need to dress up for the party, style my hair into a ponytail, and consider my greetings. But what sort of party is it? I need to take a picture of Alice in her best dress. Or perhaps I should film a video instead. Ahh, it's been so long since I've last seen Alice. It's been a week since we last met, so Alice must've changed quite a bit. An old geezer like me changed a little, so a child like Alice probably changed to the point of being indistinguishable from a week ago. When I arrive at the venue, the first thing I must do is find Alice. I'll go around asking everyone I meet. "Are you Alice?" "Do you know where Alice is?" I wondered if Alice still remembers Japanese. Maybe I should ask my questions in English.

No, maybe Alice can only understand Chinese. Yeah, let's attend the party in a China dress. Ahh, I forgot to ask where the party is being held. Since it's come to this, I better wait till Pyonpyon passes by and then follow her. Ufufu, here she comes. Her long hair-like-ears are so cute. Her white angora sweater looks so warm, and she's hopping around in her red boots. Pyon-pyon, pyon-pyon. Driven by a burning curiosity, I tail her. Are you good at this sort of thing? You may ask, but to be honest, this article is being written by an old geezer who wants to become good at this sort of thing. So, it may not be good enough for those who are already good at this sort of thing. It may be creepy for those who think I'm not the kind of person who is good at this sort of thing. You think there's no one like that among Azuma's fans? That's what I thought. But you're dead wrong. Some cheeky self-proclaimed hard SF fans are trying to steal away Azuma Hideo by saying, "Azuma Hideo isn't a Lolicon." I won't hand him over! That's why this article is dedicated to those who believe, "Lolicon aren't filled with impure desires."

If you wanna be a Lolicon, but are having trouble figuring out how to go about it, or if you're clearly a Lolicon, but feel like your life is turning dark, then you'll be glad to read this article. Your bright Lolicon life starts today, not tomorrow. Let's all be happy! (Or would it be more correct to say let's all be unhappy?)

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Those who don't want to spend money, you can look for a girl like Emi-chan from Chokkin, but it's gonna be hard finding a girl like Emi-chan. So, let's start by keeping a diary. Write down every detail about the Bishoujo you meet that day. Start with the age of the Bishoujo, her face, her figure, her hairstyle, her clothes, her accessories, and even the way she walks, moves her hands, and speaks. Write about one page of a college notebook for each girl. At first, you'll have a hard time remembering her shoes, or her expression, but once you get used to it, you'll easily be able to fill up three pages of your notebook. In the event the Bishoujo is an elementary schooler, a middle schooler, (I'm excluding high schoolers this time) or an unforgettable kindergartner, be sure to write down the place and time you meet, and of course, don't forget the day of the week. The timetable for the school (or kindergarten [幼稚園], one mustn't forget these three characters) is different depending on the day of the week. Meaning, the time she goes home also changes depending on the day of the week. Furthermore, lessons—such as cram, piano, electric organ, violin (kyaa, I love it), ballet (♥!), abacus, English, or swimming—are decided based on the day of the week, so be sure to record the day of the week.

Through this, your chances of meeting the Bishoujo again will increase dramatically. "Keep the target within visual range. This is the basis of mobile suit battles under Minovsky particles." Oops, sometimes I get my manuscripts mixed up. When you start writing your Bishoujo diary, your eye for Bishoujo will become sharper. Your buddies will eventually notice your eyes and say, "Your eyes look weird these days." Here, you mustn't answer, "No, the Bishoujo over there is......" They might not understand if you laugh it off and say, "My eyes got bad from staring at vinyl books too much." You cannot call such guys your friends. Throw them away! You'll be thrown away soon, anyways. So, when you reread your diary, you'll understand the type of Bishoujo you like. You'll see the kind of person you are. Your identity-ty-ty-ty. (Did I use that too early?) Depending on the Shoujo they like, Lolicon are divided into three groups. It's written in a certain doujinshi that Heidi Complex (abbr. Heicon) targets those from 5 to 10 years old, Alice Complex (Alicon) targets those from 7 to 12 years old, and Lolita Complex (Lolicon) targets those from 10 to 15 years old. However, this is merely a guideline, and it's normal (for Lolicon) to say, "I think from 3 to 6 is the best." Moreover, some are divided between liking Japanese or Asians, or it must be Western (Blondes! Petite Angie!), or mix-races are nice. However, Lolicon aren't as straightforward as one might expect due to their twisted and complicated nature. When we spoke while looking at photobooks, M-kun——and he admits this himself——found out he overwhelmingly prefers blonde girls with blue eyes (or would it be correct to say blue eyes and red hair; the green-eyed, red-haired Shoujo is Ann with an e), and is actually a huge fan of Fukami Yae (深見八重). This is getting to be a chaotic mess, so let's end the diary talk here.

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Next, if you don't mind spending a little money, buy yourself a Lolicon novel or Lolicon photobook. Especially the photobooks these days, so many are being spewed out, you can definitely find one that suits you. However, you cannot get Bishoujo porno photobooks in Japan. They seem to be available overseas. But xxx'ing a Bishoujo is...... I also wanna try it, no, I wanna see it. Bishoujo, an idealist like me loves them. Let's go watch a movie. 'Maladolescenza' is a porno, so it's been cut to shreds, hmm, maybe she's too old? That defiant Persian cat-like Eva Ionesco appears in it, and her lewd nudes are often seen in monthly gravure magazines. She also appears in Irina Okaa-sama's photobooks, and she's a star. But her age is... is her development the upper limit for Lolicon? 'Sundays and Cybèle' is a masterpiece. It's absolutely safe to go watch with the entire family. Cybele doesn't take off her clothes. I bet she'll cry if you flip her skirt. It's a healthy movie, but it's one of the best Lolicon films. Lolicon generally prefer long hair, but Cybele has short hair. Despite that, she's quite popular...... Is it her big eyes? Her lines that are a mix of adult and child? Her expression when she laughs and cries? Or her delicate body and girlish mannerisms? In the end, you'll love everything about her! 'Pretty Baby', where Violet becomes a Shoujo prostitute, was also not erotic at all, and was cute. There are no big or blockbuster movies about Shoujo, so try to visit a cinema further away and don't miss them when they're shown on television. By the way, the convenience of our modern times, through television, we cannot meet Shoujo anywhere except anime or CF (commercial film). The Shoujo in TV dramas are generally no good. They don't have an SF mind. (I did like Hitomi-chan from 'Ore we Abare Hacchaku'.) But among the girls that appear as guests, for example, voices may be unimpressed by 'Kero-chan Choco-chan' (ケロちゃんチョコちゃん), but the Shoujo guest in the episode 'The Phantom White Shoujo' (幻の白い少女) was well-received. "The white one-piece with the embroidered yolk is indescribable." "The hem is made from a different fabric, and the see-through look is irresistible." "From the ribbon to everything, she's like a Bishoujo drawn by Muraso Shun'ichi (祖俊一)." In any case, it's performing well! Even so, anime is still the best, and CF are second. Madora from 'The White Whale of Mu' (ムーの白鯨) is incredibly popular. Even 'Mobile Suit Gundam' (機動戦士ガンダム) has Bishoujo characters. (Don't take it seriously~) There are quite a few cute girls in CF as well.

When it comes to this, some start recklessly spending more and more money, buying a VCR and saying, "Conan' is the pinnacle of SF anime. Lana-chan is cute, and Monsley-chan was cute as a child." Or "The car chase in 'The Castle of Cagliostro' has a power live action doesn't possess. Clarisse is cute, and I bet Clarisse was cute as a child." Then there are those who say things like, "Don't cry, Shaposhnikov.", "Naimushina smiled~", and "How did you win, Davydova?" for the Soviet Union, and those who say, "You're the star of the USA, Talavera." And others who say, "Hiroko, freshly picked, fruity." But I'm at this stage currently, but if I had to imagine, it would go something like this. "After all, Shoujo are best in the flesh." However, you cannot keep them like pets, so you need to take pictures of them, film them on location, and casually invite them on drives... oh crap, not good. That would be a crime.

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You get a cookie if you recognise and can name all 5 of these characters!

Doing stuff alone can make some feel depressed and gloomy (though some find it fun and bright when they're alone, but they're the exception), so it's good to make friends with your fellow Lolicon. One way to check whether or not someone is a Lolicon is to ask them, "Do you like Yakushimaru Hiroko (薬師丸ひろ子)?" Regardless of whether they answer NO or YES, ask them for their reason. "She's old or ugly, so NO" means they're a severe Lolicon. "She was really cute in the past" would also be a Lolicon. However, it seems the CIA also employ this method, so be careful. You'll happily gather your buddies to talk and look at photos and watch videos, but then you'll think to yourself, "Doesn't all this feel just unproductive?" Then you'll start drawing pictures and writing stories, and compiling them into a book. Completing a doujinshi. It's only a single hand-written zine, but once it evolves into a copy-zine or offset-zine you start selling at Comic Market and other doujinshi sales events, then you'll become a full-fledged Lolicon. (If every Lolicon believes this and created books to bring to an event, it would be both funny and terrifying.) Azuma Hideo-Sensei, please bring along your own doujinshi (you like this sort of thing, right?) with drawings of 'Porno-version Chokkin' or 'Chibi-Mama for Adults'. I'll help you sell them.

Finally, I (俺), I (私), I (僕) can imitate Hiroko Grace (ヒロコ・グレース). More precisely, I can imitate Hiroko Grace's right ear. If it was taught in a major book, anyone could do it, so it wouldn't be interesting. It's a weapon of stinginess and mediocrity.

Gyoeh, it's already 11:48. I'm gonna be late for the party. And then I'll miss seeing Alice's beautiful dress. If Alice eats or drinks something, the dress will no longer fit her. (Not true. Alice in the original story always wore her dress.) If there was a big mirror, Alice might disappear through it. Ah~, only nine minutes left. Get ready, check complete, go, ah—, who's there? Don't get in my way, there's only eight minutes left, I'm sorry, I may have overdid it a tad bit, but I just want want to catch a glimpse, okay, okay, I wanna meet Alice. Wa—h, I'm so sorry......

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One Panel of Beautiful Memories


Takahashi Rumiko (高橋留美子) (Wiki)


Now then, what should I do? Despite being asked to write an 'article about Azuma-Sensei', they were vague, so what should I write......? This isn't the time to be fretting. I need to hand this over in an hour.

I don't analyse manga. I've never read them with a methodical approach, and I'm not smart enough to write a nuanced essay. So I think writing a fan letter would be best. Let's go with that.

Congratulations on the release of 'The Iropple' (ざ・色っぷる). When that manga was serialised in Shounen Sunday, I was a plump and fat girl somewhere between elementary or middle school at the time, and I would read it over and over again in my older brother's well-ventilated bedroom. It moved me, and I enjoyed drawing portraits of 'Iropple'. It's truly one panel of beautiful memories. I was fascinated by 'Iropple' from the moment of its preview Cut. I remember her holding something like a Nyoi-Bō diagonally in both hands, but...... above all, the pleasant sound of the word 'Iropple' is a beauty that cannot be depicted even in art. The feeling of 'Iropple' was fresh. Even now, I vividly remember Iropple and Mama were about to duel two men out in the wilderness with the men indulging in mothercon and Lolita fantasies to be continued in the next issue...... That sort of final scene. I'm not certain about my reasoning now, but I was a plump and fat girl back then, and I was deeply moved by that panel.

Now then, I've been speaking in the past tense so far, but that's not just because I'm talking about memories. Unfortunately and undutifully!! I still haven't gotten my hands on a copy of 'The Iropple'!!! I've been looking for it in bookstores, but...... Can someone please tell me where it's being sold? Ah, this isn't the time to be writing such selfish things. I have 45 minutes left to finish this manuscript and head to the promised land, not curry favours.

Has it been almost 15 years since then? Azuma-Sensei's manga was always the sumptuous feast, oceans of wine and mountains of meat, that made every magazine prosper. The tankoubon by Sensei I have on hand right now—like 'Parallel Kyoushitsu' (パラレル狂室), 'Methyl Metaphisik' (メチル・メタフィジーク), 'Bratto Bunny' (ぶらっと・バニー), among others—are in Azuma-Sensei's current style, but as someone who doesn't read very many SF novels, I can't always tell which parts are parodies. So, I can't write any clever critiques on Azuma-Sensei's current works.

Now then, let's run away and change topics. His girls are as cute as ever, aren't they? They all have skin as soft as mochi. They look warm to the touch. How does he do it? Azuma-Sensei's art seems to have reached a state of perfection for quite some time now, yeah, Azuma-Sensei's characters have been around since the Yaketen (やけ天) period...... Let's roughly categorise them between the 'Iropple' period, the 'Animal Company' (アニマル・カンパニー) period, and the 'Yaketen' period. It feels like the skin of his girls have gradually gotten warmer, and they've grown finer (I mean their skin). If this keeps up, a girl might appear who is so hot, she'll combust and burn up. What a happy thought. However, as for his current girls, I like how they all look good in sailor suits and cutie-pie one-piece dresses. Please let me hold their hands next time.

Now then, I used up 20 more minutes. Hmm, hmm, how should I fill the remaining half? Actually, I have a toothache right now. I have a Salonpas patch on my cheek. What does Azuma-Sensei do when his tooth aches? Just as I was writing this, the waste-paper for toilet-paper exchanger rang the chime on my front door. So I opened the door wearing my yellow pyjamas and a red hanten coat with a Salonpas on my cheek.

"I caught a cold, so that's why I look like this......"

I lied. On a personal note, living on the 4th floor, you can't just call out to the waste-paper for toilet-paper exchanger as they pass by; you need to wait for them to come to you. I gladly handed over my newspaper, but I didn't have very many, so I didn't get any toilet paper. The exchanger just made a profit. This is a true story that just happened.

Well, I have 10 minutes left. That said, I need to get dressed and dash to the promised land in 5 minutes, and I still need to draw a cut after this, so I've run out of time. Kisou Tengai Oguchi-san (小口), I'm going to be about 10 minutes late. I'm so sorry.

Lastly...... I'm a fan of Azuma-Sensei, but when I'm asked to 'write something about him', I get nervous and can't write anything. I wish I could write something clever, like 'Azuma-Sensei was trying to portray such and such in this work'...... I'm sorry I couldn't write anything but boring stuff. However, I always enjoy reading his works, so I hope he does his best for a thousand years. I'll be supporting him until I'm also all covered in moss.

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Left: Takahashi Rumiko's Fanart of 'The Iropple'.
Right: 'The Iropple' Cover by Azuma Hideo that influenced Takahashi Rumiko as a middle schooler.


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As far as I know, Dylan Acres is the only person on Youtube to do a video on Azuma Hideo. Making his video both the best and worst because it has no rivals. However, like everything I've seen up to now, like this nonsense with Miyazaki Hayao's Clarisse or this thing where Ootomo Katsuhiro is mentioned at the top in the New Wave manga wikipedia entry, westerners seem to have this bias where the artists that have been localised into English are important, and someone who hasn't had his work turned into a popular anime or film like 'Urusei Yatsura' or 'Akira' are somehow lesser, ignoring the fact that mangaka do not care about the commercial success of their peers.
Dylan Acres said:
"As Takahashi’s star was on the rise in the early 1980s there were mangaka that she was enamored with and those who were enamored with her. Hideo Azuma falls into the later category. "
The above is false, and the opposite is true. I don't know how someone could come up with that sort of bizarro-world assessment. Takahashi Rumiko was a fan of Azuma Hideo growing up; he influenced a great many artists, which includes her, hence why he's Osamu Tezuka's equal in terms of influence. I doubt Dylan is going to correct his article or video to be more accurate to the reality. But this misconception needs to be nipped in the bud wherever it may sprout.

Showa Period Azuma Hideo (JP):

Three Founders of Moe (JP):

Hopefully someone creates a much better English video or article on Azuma Hideo in 2025.
 
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It's been a year since I did the previous Kawamoto Kouji tribute doujin, and so far, only a French user on Twitter has seen this thread and spoken about Kawamoto Kouji (he seems mainly interested in the parts regarding the male Lolicon wanting to be Bishoujo, and female Otaku wanting to be Bishounen).
That French Twitter user I mentioned earlier created a meme based on a translation from this thread. He also got the mangaka, Tori Miki, to respond to one his tweets about reading one of his manga. Apparently, he saw the comment I made on the first page where I mentioned Azuma Hideo recommending that people read Tori Miki's manga, which might be the first concrete good that came from this thread. When I used to do manga scanlations, a French anon would also create memes for my projects on 4chan, there's something about the French that makes them better than the average manga and anime fan (they seem to actually pay attention and do useful things).
Hi! I'm the French twitter user in question, I'm just a little 4chan lurker who hangs out on twitter to forget the loneliness of his life as a young 19-year-old hikimori, and whose lolicon helps him forget that he has no dreams >_<.

Although I live and was born in France, I'm Portuguese (but yes, I'm culturally French).
Personally, I liked history as a child (and intrinsically I like to watch the history of subjects that interest me), then I started to like retro gaming, then when I got interested in anime, it was partly towards retro (especially Urusei Yatsura) that I turned, and that's how I got here.

there's something about the French that makes them better than the average manga and anime fan (they seem to actually pay attention and do useful things).

I'm too young to have experienced these events but French children received huge amounts of Japanese anime for teenagers in the 80s/90s (a world record for television audiences that has never been surpassed), then they were "banned" (it wasn't a legal ban but there were very few after that), the generation of the 80s/90s once adults became addicted again to what had been taken away from them, and they passed this passion on to their children.
So for the average French fan of manga and anime there is the persistent memory of a period of prohibition.


In any case I am very surprised to attract attention, I didn't expect Tori Miki, nor you to see my tweets (nor anyone at all since my mutuals on twitter are not lolicons, ).

In any case I am honored to see you say "which might be the first concrete good that came from this thread.", I am really moved, I love what you do here.
I laughed a lot because it took me a while to understand that French was me XD.

In 1959, an essay called 'Simone de Beauvoir: Brigitte Bardot And The Lolita Syndrome' (ブリジット・バルドーとロリータ症候群) was published (English Version on Internet Archive). There's an expression called French Lolita (フレンチロリータ), which in Japan is synonymous with what people understand as idols.
Do they know the song “Moi...Lolita” by Alizée in Japan?
There are a lot of French songs on this subject.
 
Hello Hant,
I occasionally search for certain words and terms on various platforms (i.e. Kawamoto Kouji), which is how I found your tweets. Kera does the same and has a habit of collecting tweets that are over a decade old or from obscure accounts. Aocchi (Twitter), who was the one who introduced Kera to this thread on Twitter, is 20 years old. Though Aocchi, like Ehoba, is more interested in translating/transcribing media related to magical girl anime; Ehoba said something about Kawamoto's book needing to be translated, and I was like, "Why aren't you translating it?" Despite not translating anything important, Ehoba has done more to help Kera just by tweeting about his Kawamoto Kouji tribute doujin while spending most of his time focusing on the trends of magical girl manga and anime (Link).

If you aren't following him on Twitter, I recommend you also follow the French manga and anime researcher Julien Bouvard (Twitter). He also follows me thanks to Aocchi, though I haven't really spoken with him much (I asked him for help on a certain title that sounded French in Yonezawa Yoshihiro's postwar ero-manga history book, but he says aside from sounding French, it was gibberish).

I don't know about your personal situation (i.e. Hikikomori and No Dreams), but please do the best you can while you're still young and relatively healthy. There's a mountain of things that need to be done, so I hope it's possible you can hone any skills suited to your temperament to make the best with what little time you've been given. I have social anxiety, so I personally prefer being alone, and it's fortunate my real job allows me to work in relative social isolation.
Do they know the song “Moi...Lolita” by Alizée in Japan?
There are a lot of French songs on this subject.
Some Japanese know about it, and there's supposedly multiple translations of the song according to this blog in 2014 (Link). The same blog mentions Brigitte Bardot (Link).

Since you've demonstrated a motivation to research things on your own. You can search for things in other languages on Google by typing '<search term>'+'日本語' (for Japanese). That's how I found the above blog about Alizée's song, and I also do this for languages I cannot really type like Chinese or Korean.

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Earlier in the thread, I mentioned the anime 'Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora' (夢次元ハンター ファンドラ) being Nagai Gou's foray into Lolita Anime. So I picked up the first volume (out of 2; I don't own the second volume because it's way too expensive) of a Fandora Mook to share a history of its development from Nagai's original concept as a Lolita Anime. I couldn't find a single English language source that mentions Fandora in association with Lolicon, just an article about an English dub that never saw the light of day (Link).

Nagai Gou (aka Go Nagai) shouldn't need an introduction. While some of the articles earlier in this thread say Azuma Hideo had given 'civil rights' to Lolicon, I believe Nagai Gou has done the most to shape the manga landscape by putting himself on the forefront of the manga expression battlefield that would allow Lolicon to obtain civil rights. I included a talk between Nagai Gou and Shibazaki Hiromasa trying to introduce manga and anime overseas, which is a must-read for everyone who so much as wants to utter an opinion about manga or anime (if it contradicts a western anime fan's beliefs, it's because their beliefs are mistaken).

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Source:『夢次元ハンター ファンドラ レム・ファイト編 VOL.1』1985/10/28


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Production Report


Mizuide Kouichi (水出弘一)


We asked Mizuide Kouichi, who was in charge of the screenplay, to write a production report about the events that led to the creation of 'Fandora'. In addition, though he was not directly involved in this production report, we included some rough designs from the planning stage by Tamura Hideki (田村英樹) as reference material. We hope you enjoy both of these.

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It was my dream to make an animation version of a Nagai Go work. Then, out of the blue, the offer to do 'Fandora' arrived at my doorstep.


■—Prologue


I had a premonition, or perhaps it was a prelude for what's to come. For the past few years, I had been chanting about adapting Nagai Go's original works 'Harenchi Gakuen' (ハレンチ学園) and 'Violence Jack' (バイオレンスジャック) into animations at very opportunity. But I never got a positive response from anywhere, so those projects remained stuck at the proposal stage.

Then, this spring, Producer S approached me asking if I would like to help out with an animation video based on an original work by Nagai Go, and I immediately accepted, which resulted in this work, 'Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora' (夢次元ハンター・ファンドラ). However, back then, the title hadn't even been decided yet, so I thought to myself perhaps it's going to be "Harenchi Gakuen'85", which was my heart's desire.


■—A Certain Day Mid-March


My co-writer, Yamada Takashi-kun (山田隆司), and I went to a Yakitoriya in Kichijōji with Producer S and drank shochu high-ball. We clinked our kanpai glasses to celebrate our year-and-a-half reunion.

"Mizu-san, Yama-chan, your one heart's desire, a Nagai work."

"Harenchi Gakuen?"

"Violence Jack?"

"Hold your horses. First, what do you think about making an R18 Lolicon work...?"

"Ehh—!?"

We were crestfallen. Because in our heads, we didn't want to do just a Lolicon animation, so we couldn't reply.

However, the power of alcohol is fearsome, and after a few glasses of shochu high-ball, we agreed that we would accept the offer if we could use pennames. Because Kaname Productions, Hiro Media, and of course Nippon Columbia had not yet revealed their secrets, and we could only imagine the idea of turning Nagai's work into a video was brought up as one of Producer S's typical excuses to go out for a drink. We thought that was fine, so we promised to meet again the next day and parted ways that night.


■—And the Following Day


With a hazy head, feeling a bit hungover, I headed out to the café 'Renoir' (ルノアール) in Kichijōji. On the way there, Yamada-kun and I were chatting about how it was nice the meeting location wasn't 'Takizawa' (滝沢*) in Shinjuku, as it felt more adult, then we noticed Producer S and a young man holding their business cards. I thought I'd seen him somewhere before, so we exchanged business cards, and sure enough, I had.
※Lounge Room Takizawa (Wiki)

Yes, it was Akihiro Nagao (長尾聡浩), the producer behind the huge hit 'Genmu Senki Leda' (幻夢戦記レダ).

"So, that Kaname Productions is doing Lolicon!?"

"No way..."

Our apprehensions were removed, but perhaps because it was our first time meeting, we continued to talk in rambling voices. I thought we were being quite inarticulate, but soon, the truth was revealed.

We didn't want to work on an R18 Lolicon as Kaname Productions, so they communicated this to the original author and awaited his reply.

"So, what now?"

"We want to make something of a high quality that will rival Leda, so please give us one more week!"

"In that case, we'll compete using our real names as well!!"

Inspired by Nagao's confident voice, we abandoned our imaginary joint penname 'Tomokishimu' (朝樹志夢)...


■—The Following Day in March


We went to a video café in Koenji run by a friend to watch original animation videos one after another. The café rents tapes from the video rental store next door and lets people watch them at a cost.

Watch! Watch! Watch till you get bored. I was surprised to find that even though it was only the second year since original videos were released, there were so many more different types of tapes in circulation than I had imagined.

On our way home, Yamada and I talked, over shochu high-ball, about the original videos we had just watched. The works made by multi-talented humans who did everything from the original story, writing, screenplay, direction, and animation supervision tended to be self-indulgent, and the works made by separate people weren't very interesting, either. The art was good, but the stories were empty and the drama was weak.

"The scenario comes first!!"

A good script shouldn't produce a bad work. To that end, we both agreed to create an interesting and substantial work.


■—A Certain Day a Week Later


We met again at 'Renoir' in Kichijōji, where Nagao introduced us to the director, Okasako (岡迫).
※Okasako Kazuyuki (岡迫和之)

After exchanging greetings for the first time, we had our meeting.

We wanted to examine the synopsis that Nagao brought for 'Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora' that was originally written by Nagai Go.

Despite Nagao's best efforts, the synopsis was full of sadomasochism, lesbian ero-guro, and nonsense.

However, the setting was quite interesting, so we decided to use it as the original work of our setting and create a new synopsis. The only thing we had to be careful about was to avoid nudity as much as possible.

On our way home, we called Taki Yaeko (滝弥生子), the brains behind the SF setting, whom we had been in touch with for some time, and met her at Hibarigaoka Station on the Seibu Ikebukuro line.

At the café 'Sugi' in front of the station, she was truly a one-woman show. With her vast knowledge of SF, a vague story about a red and blue jewel came to mind. The jewels were Lupia and Endora.

"Finished!"

"I'm sure Nagai-san will also be pleased with this!!"

We wrote the synopsis on the spot and remembered it as we took a swig of some good beer.


■—A Certain Day in Late March


The synopsis we submitted was approved, and the final meeting to work on writing the script was held at a Denny's near Kaname Productions.

There, Hiro Media and Nippon Columbia removed the veil. I had a vague feeling, but for the distributor Nippon Columbia, this was a memorable first original animated video. In addition, it would be a trilogy with each part released in three month intervals. Hiro Media was planning to make an overseas version, and it sounded like there were talks for a movie adaptation as well.

However, we didn't have time for that. We had to work hard to write the script while news of the cherry blossoms were coming from all around us...

Coming Spring
 Pebble Slightly Hindered


■—And the Following Day



We divided the scenario into two parts and started writing around April 1st. Yamada-kun was in charge of the first half, and I was in charge of the second half.

Taking a break from our beloved alcohol and horse racing, we continued writing Fandora. And by the end of March, we brought the completed manuscripts and put them together at café 'Sugi' in Hibarigaoka. However, it was well over a hundred pages, we'd clearly written too much. So, we decided to tentatively cut out twenty pages, and we went into one last all-nighter.

The location was Yamada-kun's home. Through our discussions, the draft that is published within this book was completed.

We rushed to 'Renoir' with the first draft and handed it over to Nagao. He said he would let us know the result by the weekend. Personally, I liked this draft and was quite confident, so the weekend was a long time coming.


■—A Certain Day in that April Weekend


The cherry blossoms had already fallen. I met with Shibasaki (芝崎) and Suzuki (鈴木) from Hiro Media in Akasaka. We had a scenario meeting about the draft we handed them the other day. Along with Nagao and Okasako, Kageyama (影山) from Kaname Productions was also there as a coordinator.

Just as we were hoping for a one-shot OK, we were hit by a deadly punch. They told us it was too explanatory and had no tempo. This was disappointing. It was a big shock, especially since we were so confident.

But as we talked, I believed they understood our true intentions. Because, precisely because it was a rough draft, we wanted it to be explanatory so the reader could grasp the world of the story, so we took almost twice as long to write the manuscript, which is about twice the usual 30 minutes. Naturally, if we could have cut 15 more pages while leaving the content dense, the tempo would have improved, but...

Muttering to myself that the demands made on revised manuscripts were always harsh, I realised my dream of getting it approve on the first go had quickly vanished.


■—A Certain Many Days Later in April


I went to Kaname Productions in Fujimigaoka on the Inokashira Line to discuss the revision. I used to live nearby, so it was a nostalgic place for me.

Kaname Productions, facing Inokashira Street, was full of energy. The average age of the staff was around 23 years old. Nagao, Kageyama, Kohara-kun (小原), Masaki-kun (政木), Ikeda-kun (池田), and Ogata-kun (尾形) all had promising futures. On the wall, there was a poster of Inomata's Leda...

In this sort of atmosphere, Okasako and the character designer, Tamura (田村), were waiting for us. With Nagao and Kageyama joining us, the six of us began discussing revisions.

The meeting took place at the nearby 'Skylark' (すかいらーく). The meeting began with Tamura showing us the characters he had brought with him. The lovely Fandora, the bewitching Leimia, and the evil Yog-Sogoth were all there.

As I looked at them, I suddenly realised something. That was a far cry from the image I had of Leimia. The Leimia we had written in the preliminary drafts was a villainous woman who led a group of lesbian beauties, but Tamura's character didn't suggest she was a villainous woman. In this type of story, being unable to write the antagonist well is bound to lead to failure.

So I reconsidered how to treat Leimia. Perhaps I should change her from a villainous woman...

"No, this Leimia was hard to abandon."

"In that case..."

Without anybody saying anything, the idea came up of making Leimia an unfortunate princess, and so the framework for her current form was created.

"An unfortunate beauty, on top of being a lez, sadist, and masochist..."

"It would be better if you got rid of those things."

The story suddenly shifted from an adult mindset, and quickly ascended into the world of heroic fantasy. And it was here the entire staff came to a consensus.

This was indeed the start of a new 'Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora'. And here, the entire staff was united in its view.

"Kanpai~!!"


■—And a Certain Day in Early May


The scenario in its current form was completed. Carp streamers were swimming in the sky.

The funny thing is that in the final draft, Yamada-kun, who was supposed to be writing the first half, wrote the second half, and I, who was supposed to be writing the second half, wrote the first half, so the order was completely reversed somewhere midway. But that didn't mean the story became boring; in fact, it seemed tighter and I felt a sense of accomplishment.

"This is Fandora!"

"This is Original Video!!"

The scenario left our hands and began to take on a life of its own. I believed in the future of this work in the hands of the director, Okasako, the producer Nagao, and the coordinator, Kageyama. Perhaps out of consideration, I wasn't told anything about what happened afterwards, so it's a shame I can't write anything about it...


■—A Certain Day in Mid-August


In the middle of the hot summer, I received a call from Kaname Productions. They told me Fandora turned out well, and that they were making a sequel as originally planned, so they wanted to meet with me.

That night, I met Yamada-kun, and we talked about Fandora for the first time in a long while. He was also worried, not knowing how things had progressed since then. So I told him about the experience I had at Nippon Columbia one day in July when I was on my way home from a meeting for another original animation video, and he looked like he felt reassured.

The day I stopped by was the day the theme song was being decided, and the singer Hashimoto Ushio-san (橋本潮) was there. The music director, Matsuura (松浦), and the producer, Nagao, were in high spirits.

"What did you think of the theme song?"

"Better than I imagined."

I wasn't very good at singing, so I couldn't even sing it for them, I just showed them the lyric sheet. And I thought it would be nice if they invited the scenario writers to events like the decisions on the theme song, the press conference, the dubbing, the first screening, and so on...


■—And the Next Day


Together with Nagao and Okasako, we went to Hiro Media in Akasaka and were treated to a delicious meal. The sequel meeting there, which took the form of a free-talk, was a great success with all sorts of ideas flying around. For example, everyone there was a Leimia fan, and they were wondering if we could somehow bring her back to life... or if that was an impossible dream, then maybe she'd be the younger of twin sisters...

The idea was rejected, and the sequel scenario was underway with an overwhelming force. I was more and more confident it will be a highly anticipated sequel.

Stay tuned!!

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■—Epilogue


Original animation videos tend to be heavily criticised. It's only been two years since it was created. There may have been some trial-and-error, but the general opinion is that the original work (drama) is always overshadowed by the art and not very interesting. I'm proud to say 'Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora' has taken on such criticism and given the drama a strong backbone. Of course, the artwork is by the world-renowned Kaname Productions, so there's no way it could be bad. I'm sure it will cause a huge sensation, just like 'Leda: The Fantastic Adventure of Yohko' (幻夢戦記・レダ).

Animation isn't just about the action. I'd like people to watch dramas once in a while. That character and this character are good, but sometimes that story was good and this story was good... I believe it would be nice to have conversations on that level. For stories like that, we'll fly anywhere.

Also, I would like to write a novel about Fandora. I'm sure it would expand the world of epic heroic fantasy. Until next time...

On an Autumn Night
 Leimia Love and Dream Dimension

(The End)

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Global Gakuen Hunter Fandora:

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Source:『グロービアン』1986-11 p75~76

Found this mock-up English teaching manga using the Fandora characters while researching Fandora in an issue of Globian published by Hiromedia, which is an original video information magazine. The same issue also includes stuff for Cream Lemon and Dream Hunter Rem.


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Lolita Anime: Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora

Story: Tomokishimu (朝樹志夢)
Illustrations: Toyoshima Yuusaku (豊島U作) (
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This is the original Lolicon-style version of Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora with illustrations by Inuneko Usagizaemon (aka Toyoshima Yuusaku), an old member of Cybele, who also did the illustrations for Bishoujo Communication's Lolicon article in the previous post.

Despite there being a bunch of articles about Dream Dimension Fandora in English, no one mentioned it was a Lolita Anime, or Toyoshima Yuusaku's connection with it. It's unfortunate Toyoshima doesn't have a proper entry on the Japanese Wikipedia. Since he doesn't, I'll translate the profile provided in this Fandora mook.

●Toyoshima Yuusaku (豊島U作)

Occupation: Mangaka. Born March 16th of 1960. Representative Work: 'Seireijima'* (精霊島) (Byakuya Shobo). Releasing works as a promising newcomer.
※This is a typo in the original mook. The work is 'Shoureijima' (硝霊島), which was serialised in Comic Margarita.

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As an aside, Toyoshima Yuusaku flew to LA (United States) during the riots to attend a furry convention in 1994. He called himself a Japanese Animal Fucker and claimed Tezuka Osamu was Japan's first Animal Fucker, so he wanted to visit America, the home of Disney, who turned Tezuka Osamu into an Animal Fucker. Apparently the half-Otaku Kanemitsu Dan (Twitter) helped him arrange this trip to LA and acted as an interpreter for him; he met several anime fans among the Furverts at the furry convention and one of them was the animator Noah Miller, and while Noah couldn't exactly read Japanese, Noah had a copy of Azuma Hideo's 'Absurd Diary', and Toyoshima told him he used to work as Azuma Hideo's assistant. Noah also asked Toyoshima for the title of 'Neko de Gomen' (a manga I scanlated years ago); though Toyoshima didn't recognize it from his description, but Dan understood and answered the question.

Translated two pages of Toyoshima's trip to LA:

I couldn't find Kanemitsu Dan mentioning any stories involving Toyoshima Yuusaku on Twitter or his (current) website, so someone probably should ask him if he has anything from back then (Toyoshima disappeared from the internet in 2023; he stopped drawing 15 years prior due to illness and the nuclear power plant disaster and changed his focus on talking about anime to talking about real life things that made him unhappy). Aside concluded.


The phantasmic Lolicon-style anime 'Fandora' introduced in Mizuide's production report is this!! The thematic parts of 'Fandora' were left unchanged, so this will undoubtedly be valuable material for fans.


*Story Untranslated*

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If you watched the Fandora anime, you should be able to see these portions lying beneath the surface.
While it's nowhere near as good as Dream Hunter Rem, Fandora's still a relatively decent OVA.



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About Japanese Manga and Anime Overseas
Shibazaki Hiromasa VS Nagai Gou

Shibazaki Hiromasa (芝崎寛政)
Nagai Gou (永井豪) (
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Supporting 'Dream Dimension Hunter Fandora' behind the scenes are these two. The general producer, Shibazaki Hiromasa, and the original creator, Nagai Gou. With 'Fandora' set to be sold overseas as well, we spoke with Shibazaki and Nagai about how they met, their working relationship, and whether Japanese anime will also be accepted overseas!? These were the themes we discussed.

It looks like these two will easily achieve the dream of anime expanding overseas.

Moderator: Oohashi Hiroyuki (大橋博之) (
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In Order to Sell Anime Overseas!


Oohashi:
First, I would like to discuss how you two met.

Nagai: Sakuragi-san (桜木), an editor at 'Playboy' magazine published by Shueisha and an old friend of mine, told me, "There's an interesting guy here." And that's how we first met.

Shibazaki: That was about 8 years ago.

I was in America at the time, but the only Japanese cultural figures known there were Kurosawa Akira (黒沢明) and Kawabata Yasunari (川端康成). Japanese mangaka weren't selling. More than not selling, they were unknown. So when I thought about what would be a good way to introduce manga overseas, I thought robots, like the ones in 'Mazinger Z' (マジンガーZ) and 'Great Mazinger' (グレートマジンガー) would be characters that could be appreciated both in America and Japan, so I asked my acquaintance Sakuragi-san for help. That was the trigger.

Oohashi: So, it was Shibazaki who said, "I want to meet."

Shibazaki: Yeah.

Nagai: Shibazaki-san is a very well-known face in America. According to Sakuragi-san, when he went to America for data collection, he even got in touch with then-President Carter. And because he's knowledgeable in so many areas, I was told I would 'hear some interesting episodes'. I was also very curious (laughs) and said, "I'd love to meet him."

Shibazaki: We went on a trip to America together.

Nagai: Before the space shuttle was completed and the Japanese hadn't yet arrived, Shibazaki-san gave me a tour of the Rockwell factory, where the shuttle's engines were made.

Oohashi: So, it wasn't directly related to work?

Nagai: Half-work, half-play (laughs).

Shibazaki: That's right (laughs). We started working together specifically after I read an article in the Asahi Journal about how 'Mazinger Z' was getting great viewership in Spain. I, myself, didn't know that fact until that article was published (laughs). But as I said before, my idea that a stateless character like 'Mazinger Z' would be well-received overseas turned out to be correct. So I signed an agent contract with Dynamic Planning (ダイナミック企画), and I became his liaison for overseas work.

Nagai: For example, one of my staff members, Kaze Shinobu (風忍), had his work featured in an American magazine called 'Heavy Metal'. I also had my work 'Oni' (鬼) featured in a magazine called 'Epic'.

Oohashi: So at that point, you were already convinced Nagai-san's works would sell overseas.

Shibazaki: Yeah. Because Japanese works are difficult to translate. As you know, English has it so the order is subject, predicate, and object. But in Japanese, it often ends with just a noun or object. In that respect, Nagai's works, which can be fully explained through art, are easy for people overseas to understand. In that sense, I thought they would sell overseas as well. Things that require detailed explanations won't sell. If it's a novel, then it's better to create the novel from scratch. 'Oni' is a work that uses few words and expresses the story through the art.

Oohashi: It must've been very difficult to get your work published overseas.

Shibazaki: It was very difficult (laughs).

I once went to the San Diego 'Comic Convention' with Nagai-san, and the main focus were Marvel Comics like Spider-man. The only Japanese manga being introduced were the works of Tezuka Osamu. At the time, I felt we had to create a system in which Japanese manga could be accepted. The American side wouldn't create it, but I was sure if we worked on our end, it would be accepted.

Nagai-san currently has 220 works published as a tankoubon, so if he were to select and publish the best of those, he should be well-received. American comic book critic, Fred Batan, has also said 'Devilman' (デビルマン) and 'Susano Oh' (凄ノ王) would sell overseas.

However, American comics are read left to right, so the order of the spreads and panels will become reversed (laughs). So I thought it would be better to write something new rather than reverse the order of his previous works. Also, since we don't own the rights to his previous works, I talked it over with Nagai-san and we came to the conclusion that it would be easier to create a new work, one we could also sell overseas.

Oohashi: I'd like to hear about the difficulties you faced when you went abroad for the first time.

Nagai: I went to San Diego about 4~5 years ago.

Shibazaki: Right. I went there with Nagai-san, Tezuka-san, Monkey Punch-san (モンキーパンチ), and Baron Yoshimoto-san (バロン吉本), and the critics there knew very little about Japanese works. But when we put records and commercialised toys on the table and tried selling them, they sold quite well.

Nagai: Yeah, they sold quite well. That helped me earn a lot of money for my travel expenses (laughs).

Shibazaki: What this means is that even if it's not well-known, it will be accepted if people become aware of it.

About 5 years ago, we sold 'Mazinger Z' and 'Great Mazinger' to an American production company, but when they took them to American TV stations, they didn't seem to care cause they hadn't heard of them.

However, Takara is currently enjoying popularity with 'Transformers', but I believe the foundation for that was actually created by us 4~5 years ago. Back then, we were distributing the video for free to all sorts of people and showing it to them.

Oohashi: So robot stuff has become established over there.

Shibazaki: We've created the starting point for it to become established.

Nagai: We ended up letting someone else make the profit (laughs).

Shibazaki: Right, that was a failure (laughs). Takara-san makes its living with toys rather than videos, but I still believe it was us who popularised robots. Up until then, robot stuff hadn't been introduced to America and the only Japanese works that had been introduced were 'Gatchaman' (ガッチャマン) and 'Astro Boy' (鉄腕アトム).

Oohashi: What were the challenges you faced, Nagai-san?

Nagai: When I went to America, it was almost like I'm simply sightseeing (laughs). It wasn't challenging, but one thing I can say is that comic magazines there don't have many pages. 10 pages is considered a lot. So, even with 'Oni', the difficulty was figuring out how to pack as much content as possible into those few pages.

Shibazaki: The age range of fans is also different in Japan and America. In America, there are plenty of comic fans in their 50s and 60s. In Japan, it tends to be more child-centred, so that's a big difference, In America, a lot of grown-up men buy comics. Not for their kids, but for themselves (laughs).

Nagai: In Japan, it's only guys until their 20s at most.

Shibazaki: Originally, manga were first serialised in the Sunday editions of newspapers in America. They have a history.

Oohashi: Manga was already around when people, now in their 40s and 50s, were children, right?

Shibazaki: Right. I heard this directly from a guy in his 50s, but he said he read manga even during the Korean War (laughs). Apparently, comics were sold at the shops within the battleships. It's quite different from Japan.

Nagai: I've never heard any stories of 'Norakuro' (のらくろ) being sold on board the battleship Yamato (laughs).

Shibazaki: Another good thing about America is the strong relationship between the original author and the producer. For example, in the case of sports players, the players concentrate on their matches, and leave negotiations for things like appearing in commercials to their managers and producers. We need to have a similar system in place for Japan as well. Nagai-san has a company called Dynamic Planning that's well-established in this regard.

Oohashi: You quickly adopted a production system and effectively established a division of labour.

Nagai: In any case, I thought to make a company from the beginning. I started the company about a year after my debut.

Shibazaki: If you do everything personally, it becomes hard to distinguish between public and private. Public-public is no good, and private-private is no good, either. There has to be both a public and private. Only then can you keep work as work and play as play, and get to know them well.

Which reminds me, he wrote a manga themed after me (laughs). For 'Shounen Magazine'.

Nagai: It's called 'This is Daisuke' (THIS IS 大介). I broke my leg partway through, and had to give up on the project (laughs). Actually, the model for that was Shibazaki-san (laughs).

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Oohashi: Returning to the topic, in America, adults read manga, so you need to create works that appeal to both adults and children.

Shibazaki: That's right. However, in the case of 'Oni', it was published by 'Epic', a magazine for adults, so they didn't have to worry about it reaching the eyes of children.

Nagai: Right. Also, even when presenting it in America, it seems better to not force yourself to conform. Rather, it seems better to draw in a Japanese style to make it more unique.

Shibazaki: America is a country of immigrants, so there is a strong interest in different cultures. Even Bruce Lee's films sell well because no one had seen karate movies like that before.

So when it comes to comics, while the norm over there is around 30 pages, it might be better to publish something around 100 pages in the Japanese style.

Then two problems remain.

One is the price. Comics in America are sold for about 20 cents each, which is much cheaper than in Japan.

Two is the sales network problem. There is no nationwide sales network in America, so we'll need to start a fire on the east and west coasts and then spread it across America.

Oohashi: The country is so large that laws vary from state to state.

Shibazaki: So, even if we try our best, it will probably take another 5 years to spread Japanese works throughout the whole of America.

If we succeed in America, I believe it'll spread to Europe quite easily. Strangely enough, it's hard to spread a work that's a hit in Europe to America, but a work that's a hit in America spreads to Europe in six months. It's up to us to decide whether to make a short film, a feature film, or an anime.

Also, there's a difference in the way people think about software. In America, you buy it and then keep it, but in Japan, you probably just give it away to the tissue paper exchanger (laughs).

Nagai: America doesn't read and throw it away, so once fans are established, they won't leave. People in their 40s~50s re-read comics they read a long time ago (laughs). Even in Europe, you can make a living by publishing one or two 50-page books a year. In Japan, you're always pressed for deadlines, and if you don't get along with others, you're finished.

Shibazaki: In Japan, mangaka, themselves, are a product. But in America, they value their artists.

Oohashi: Once you sell well in America, you won't have to worry about promotion anymore.

Shibazaki: That's right. And as part of our strategy, we put Nagai-san's name at the forefront. When Japanese works are released overseas, for some reason, it's common for the original artist's name to not be credited. But we properly put it up as 'Go Nagai'. Otherwise, even if the first work sells, we'd have to start all over with the second. If the name 'Nagai' becomes known, there's a degree of recognition 'that's a work by Nagai'. In fact, Nagai-san's name is well-known in France.

Nagai: Honestly, I was surrounded by kids once in France (laughs). When I went to a friend's place in Corsica, they gathered around me with a "Doh". I never thought I'd be asked to sign so many coloured papers in a place like that (laughs).

Shibazaki: It's the culmination of all these things that's important.

Oohashi: Well then, please tell us your outlook for the future.

Nagai: I would like to create something nobody in the world has ever created.

Shibazaki: As for me, I would like to collect and analyse information from America and Europe to create projects that will meet their needs. I'd like to be more than just a simple producer, but a mass producer. In that way, I have a strong desire to provide entertainment to the world to transcend borders. In that regard, I believe manga and animation to be extremely peaceful tools.

Nagai: Even if we export manga, there won't be any trade friction (laughs).

Shibazaki: And artists can create the works they like, and we can grasp what is needed anywhere in the world. This teamwork play will become even more important in the future.

Oohashi: Thank you very much.

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Nagai Gou & My Lolita

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Similar to how Tezuka Osamu created 'Prime Rose' to ride on the Lolicon train (despite his protest that he wasn't doing a Lolicon manga for Lolicon specifically). During the Lolicon Boom, Nagai Gou published his own Lolicon manga called 'My Lolita' (おれのロリータ) in the 1983 April issue of Weekly Playboy (週刊プレイボーイ) published by Shueisha.

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"Wawah! Not a fanta~asy! A, a, a real Lolita~!!"
"Onii-chan, noo—! Don't have SEX with that sort of woman!"
"Ehh, b, but!"
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Shibazaki: The age range of fans is also different in Japan and America. In America, there are plenty of comic fans in their 50s and 60s. In Japan, it tends to be more child-centred, so that's a big different. In America, a lot of grown-up men buy comics. Not for their kids, but for themselves (laughs).

Nagai: In Japan, it's only guys until their 20s at most.
Often I see westerners talk about their preference for manga and anime in that it's 'more mature' than western comics, which I never understood. In Japan, manga and anime are for children, and adults trade their manga away for toilet paper. So if manga and anime seem mature, it's probably because people like Shibazaki influenced Japanese creators to create manga that would interest America's older audience because they've been trying to penetrate the western market since day one. Of course, the sort of manga Americans loved alongside the robot manga were the SF Lolicon manga (with robots) like Macross.

Fandora, the 17 Year Old Lolita Anime Heroine:

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Last year I spoke to several different people, among them being Cyber Akuma, ErmiAnime, and Curtiss H. Hoffman (spoke to him after finding out Steve Pearl died in 2007 at the age of 40 from diabetes [Link], so I converted an e-mail meant for Steve to one for Curtiss).

Because ErmiAnime uploaded a video about Otaku that Aocchi linked on Twitter, I decided to translate a bunch of articles related to Hirukogami Ken, Japan's 1st Otaku.

Ermi primarily used Patrick Galbraith's books as a source, so there's huge chunks of Otaku history missing, and he seems to be applying Okada Toshio's definition of Otaku onto people who have their own terms to differentiate themselves from Otaku. I thought I might've misunderstood Patrick when he said everyone in Japan was fine with 'Otaku' until the Miyazaki Tsutomu incident, but Ermi repeated this, so it's safe to assume Patrick is incorrect about this point (Otaku Bashing predated Miyazaki Tsutomu, and people were blaming Otaku as suspects for his crimes before Miyazaki Tsutomu was arrested). I spoke to Ermi on Twitter, and he shared a digital version of a book I was unable to purchase the Kindle version of (I was limited to the physical version), and through him asking for a source about something I commented on, I learned Ootsuka Eiji changed the part about Manga Burikko having a 40% female reader base to 50% between his original article and his Spiritual History of Otaku book. Curious if Ermi read this thread after asking me for where I keep my article translations; I have this strange feeling he'll pull a Jeko and keep repeating the things he read from books previously because he's disinterested in primary sources that may contradict his beliefs.

Speaking of someone who actually read this thread, tooecchi contacted me through DM (he said registering to Varishangout was a pain). As mentioned earlier, tooecchi is a team of two people, so I was contacted by Moetan, and if I were to describe this in anime terms, tooecchi is a team of brother and sister, and they both scanned a lot of stuff (Moetan scanned Urushihara Satoshi's books that unscrupulous people would burn onto CDs and sell on auction sites way back in the day). Moetan invited me to their secret club, and I met a French person called Retrochris (Website) I noticed on Twitter back in December when I was dealing with Curtiss H. Hoffman after searching for Azuma Hideo and noticing he scanned and commented on a doujin called 'Hilda Land'. Retrochris has been scanning and translating old and obscure doujinshi from the 1970s. Retrochris said I was interesting and wanted to follow me on Twitter, though I think he's way more interesting since he's actually communicating with old Circles and bookstores to archive their doujinshi (the best I managed last year was convincing a Japanese Twitter user to scan a couple pages of a Fairy Press interview with Kazuna Kei and Konoma Waho). If there were more people like Retrochris, I could retire from this thread because I feel someone like him would get a lot more done.

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Example of a Retrochris analysis of a 1970s Doujinshi:

Anyways, I still haven't spoken to the other member of tooecchi, Randoseru, yet. Moetan said he's more interested in the art than the history/trivia of old doujins from the 1980s~1990s. But Moetan said Randoseru is interested in the Lolicon Boom and has been building their own collection of books to research it. Moetan said they need help with cleaning and editing their scans, but after watching a video of their editing process, I feel intimidated because they're working with scans that haven't been debound (he says the high-tech scanner he owns creates good enough scans he can fix with Photoshop's tools, but I personally don't have much experience using those specific tools and don't know if it's a skill that's easy to teach to someone new). Moetan said they stopped trying to solicit help from others, but I would like to see if I can find them some competent help. Cleaning scans is a low level task that anyone reading this thread could do (you just need to put aside a lot of time, so less video games, watching videos, and screaming about localisers who don't matter in the grand scheme of things, and more listening to podcasts and audiobooks while editing scans of people who do matter in the grand scheme of things).

In any case, let's return to the roots of this thread by revisiting the October issue of Fusion Product. This interview with Hirukogami Ken was conducted by the same person in OP, who wrote for Manga no Techou, and there's a couple articles by Y. Endou, who got Ogata Katsuhiro a job working at ASCII. I said Hirukogami Ken is the closet to the incorrect western definition of Lolicon a couple years ago, but after translating this article, I think he's not THAT close to the incorrect western understanding of Lolicon. I think his comment about Clarisse needs to be understood; it's essentially what Otaku seek, and why an 'adult' character like Belldandy is still Lolicon.


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Source: 「ふゅーじょんぷろだくと ロリータ/美少女特集 81/10」

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Lolicon Patient Interview
Lolicon will Conquer the World

Hirukogami Ken's Creepy Day


Interviewer: Fujimoto Takahito (藤本孝人)


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Widely known among humans within this field, even appearing in the manga of Azuma Hideo and Noguchi Masayuki, the true nature of Hirukogami Ken will now be revealed. All you ordinary Lolicon out there in society, take him as your role model.


——Recently, Hirukogami-san's degenerate style has become something of a symbol at Comiket.

Hirukogami: Well, how do I put it? It started as a bad joke. I dressed up like this, and from the corner of the venue, someone called out, "Nii-san, Nii-san, there's an interesting doujinshi here."... And it went over quite well.

——Do you have a desire to transform?

Hirukogami: That's right. You could say it's to become a degenerate in both body and mind, and when I dress like this, my body feels solemn...... (laughs).

——But it must be hot during the summer.

Hirukogami: I lost 2 kilos (laughs).

——The 'Youjo Fancier' (幼女嗜好) that Hirukogami-san sells at Comiket, this is quite radical even among Lolicon doujinshi.

Hirukogami: If you take 'Cybele' for example, if anything, it's bright Lolicon, or a doujinshi even girls can read. Well, that's fine, but it could be a little more unorthodox...... They say it was to deliver a blow to the Comiket culture at the time when homo-doujinshi were considered the orthodox, but well, they were half-joking.

——And Half-serious (laughs).

Hirukogami: Well, it's nothing more than this for me......

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——In Hirukogami-san's case, how old does the Shoujo need to be for you?

Hirukogami: For me, I have a wide range of interests, from 2 all the way to 13. But once they're over 14, they're past their prime.

——Then is Clarisse well past her prime (laughs)?

Hirukogami: But, you see, she still has a lot of Shoujo-ness to her.

——Shoujo-ness?

Hirukogami: How do I put it......? I guess it's something like a purity, or insecurity. For example, take Brooke Shields from 'Pretty Baby'. She's definitely a Shoujo, but I don't sense any Shoujo-ness from her...... I already sense a woman in her.

——So you don't sense a woman in her?

Hirukogami: I'm not attracted to adult women.

——After all, do you suppose your childhood experiences likely influenced you, Hirukogami-san?

Hirukogami: In the end, you could say it's a repulsion towards motherhood. I was in a situation where all my illusions about mothers were destroyed. And then there's the abortion. A sense of alienation that maybe I, myself, should never have been brought into this world. Conversely, a sense of guilt I was the only one to be born. A longing for a younger sister who might have existed. Things like that may have had an influence.

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——So, do you see Shoujo as sexually-undifferentiated hermaphrodites?

Hirukogami: No, in my case, Shoujo are asexual. I consider Shounen to be hermaphrodites, that is, they can become either sex (性). In opposition to them, the Shoujo in my imagination are beings who are completely separate from sex.

——And yet your novels contain scenes of sexual activity with Youjo, Hirukogami-san. Don't you feel there's a self-contraction in that?

Hirukogami: Of course I feel it. The very idea of being a Lolicon contains this sort of self-contradiction. Meaning, Shoujo are beings you want to protect, and at the same time, beings you must attack......

——So they're beings who must be attacked!? Hirukogami-san, are you a degenerate in real life as well?

Hirukogami: No, I'm known as a good and honest human in my neighbourhood. At most, I stroke the ransel of elementary schoolgirls on crowded trains (laughs).

——What about sailor suits?

Hirukogami: Once they become high schoolgirls, they're already women. I have no interest in them.

——About 'Youjo Fancier', I'd like to ask you about 'Norma' from the 3rd volume, who is a catgirl (猫少女).
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Hirukogami:
Yeah, she's a Shoujo who doesn't have a human Tatemae (建前), she's—how should I put it—a Shoujo who lives only by her material instincts. For some reason, I dislike human Tatemae...... But in reality, you need to live by Tatemae. In that sort of sense, I wrote Norma as the ideal Shoujo who isn't bound by Tatemae.

——In Vol.2, 'Armageddon Has Come!', a Shoujo-ish angel appears.
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Hirukogami:
You could say it's tainting something pure, a kind of sadism. But the story itself was originally a fantasy novel with a hard premise. So I forcibly attached that sort of story to it...... (laughs).

——Naturally, there's going to be a sequel to 'Armageddon', right?

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Hirukogami the Rat Banging Norma the Catgirl.
'Oshimeri Junko' (おしめりジュンコ)
'Manga Eros' 1980/9 Noguchi Masayuki

'Scrap School' (スクラップ学園)
Akita Shoten, Azuma Hideo


Hirukogami: Yeah, I'm agonising over when to announce it, but...... I'll write it someday. How does the angel Shoujo change afterwards, and the sadness of the Shoujo as she changes. I would like to continue along that sort of vein. But next time, I'll take a break from 'Youjo Fancier' and release a supplementary volume called 'SM Lolita' (SMロリータ). This is a form of resignation. I want to fall as deep as I can fall...... Personally, I don't find SM to be any fun to write about, so I don't think I'll like it, but...... Maybe I will like it......

——So you're going to bully the Shoujo thoroughly?

Hirukogami: I'll bully her both physically and mentally.

——If you go all the way, will something come of it?

Hirukogami: Yeah, well, it's a motif I have myself. A distrust of humanity, a desire to reject things like meaningless morality. A heretic's bravado, if you will. I would like to publish 'SM Lolita' with that sort of resentment in mind.

——It's become more major recently. Apparently, they created even an official FC (Fanclub).

Hirukogami: Haa...... I was so shocked, I unwittingly acknowledged it.

——Do you have any ambition to take over the world through Lolicon?

Hirukogami: To achieve that, we would, for example, need to hijack a kindergarten bus or take over an elementary school, and use it as a base......

——Is it fair to say that 'Youjo Fancier' will be the life work of Hirukogami-san?

Hirukogami: If I can no longer continue it, I'll crush it, set it on fire, and try to revive it from the ashes......

——Ahh, like a phoenix (laughs).

Hirukogami: Even if the form changes, I want to continue as long as I have the energy. It's like a sickness, so...... It's an outlet for a kind of resentment.

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Being a Lolicon Maniac is Tough



It is said maniacs are one step away from being animals, that they're often witnessed committing acts that border on insanity. However, for the maniacs themselves, it's not insanity, but the most enjoyable moment of their lives.

For example, if they see a cute girl in a CM (Commercial), they'll trek to the National Diet Library and rummage through back-numbers of dressmaking or Autumn/Winter children's clothing catalogues to determine if the girl in the CM was featured as a model. They've heard girls, who appear in CM, usually appeared as models in these types of magazines. Once they discover from the pile of books the magazine, month, and page the girl they're looking for was featured, they will remember it (They don't jot down a memo, they actually remember it!), and then call Kamakura Shobo, or whomever published the book, and ask for all the information about the girl in question. They're truly systematic!

In addition, there's also cases where maniacs form a strong network with one another, and in these cases, they often go much further than a single Lolicon maniac.

For example, their network can easily find out if a certain shoe store will give out posters, or which agency a certain girl belongs to, even visiting the agency directly to absorb first-hand information and obtain various pamphlets, and so on.

These are the steps that take Lolicon a step further.

This is an example of someone who has progressed to become a Lolicon maniac.

Y. Endou (Y・エンドウ) (Wiki)


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Sick Wars

By Y. Endou (Y・エンドウ) (Wiki)


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The 1980s is the age of Sick (ビョーキ). The time, where everyone has at least one or two serious Sicknesses, has come. So, I've attempted to create a Sick correlation map focusing around Lolitaism (Lolita Complex) and Paedophilia (ペトフィリア). Doing it like this will allow us to see how many Sicknesses are all around us.

I believe an astute reader will already be familiar with most of these Sicknesses, but I shall provide a brief explanation for the more difficult ones.

First, I attempted to grasp the most basic meaning of Lolitaism. Paedophilia (ペトフィリア) can be translated as either paedophilia (幼児姦症) or child love (児童性愛), I have elected to separate the concept of Shoujo Fetish from this. Moreover, those called Lolicon these days are a type of Shoujo Fetish. In manga, where Doll Love (人形愛) is often derived, Itsuki Takashi (いつきたかし) is one artist who adheres to this theme. Sexual Kleptomania (性交窃取症) is quasi-rape of a mentally incapacitated person, and recently, a typical case of this Sickness using chloroform and a gas mask was discussed on television and in other media. Mysophilia (汚損癖) refers to things like kimono-slashing and the sullying of ones best clothes that has become more common recently.

Orestes Complex comes from Greek mythology, like the famous Oedipus Complex and Electra Complex, and is also referred to as a negative Oedipus Complex. Relatively close to this is King Mark (Celtic Legend) Complex, where one willingly creates a love triangle and then suffers from it. There are cases where this element is included in Lolita Complex.

There are a great many things that are being called Complexes, it makes one feel like they can create their own Sickness by simply adding the word Complex to it. I believe it's a good idea to create your own original Complex right away. Anyways, the Hagar-Sarah-Complex, taken from the Old Testament, is a subconscious attempt to divide women into two types: ❶ Those Who Love But Don't Touch, ➋ Those Who Touch But Don't Love. The Lilith Complex is a tendency to project one's own feminine elements onto women, and Lilith is said to be the witch who was Adam's wife before Eve. 2D Complex is a Sickness in which one is only attracted to girls depicted on flat surfaces, such as manga or anime, and from what I hear, the cure for this Sickness involves attaching the girl to a futon and gradually growing accustomed to her in a 3D form.

Just to be clear, Chicken Sex (鶏姦) doesn't involve sex with a chicken. It's an extension of Shounen-ai (少年愛). According to a book by Taroupho Inaguaqui (タルホ・イナガキ), in China, it is said the best thing to do at the moment of climax is to chop off the boy's head.

Although I only briefly mentioned homosexuality, this world is complicated. There are many different forms, as you may already know. I often see three university students discussing the differences between homo, okama, and gays in coffee shops or on the train, but most of what I hear is often haphazard, one-patterned, or empty on the inside. Anyways, the difference between homo, okama, and gays are clearly described in Miwa Akihiro's (美輪明宏) 'Murasaki No Rirekisho' (紫の履歴書), but let's talk about that when we do a 'homosexual special feature' in a future issue of this magazine......


This short article was an absolute pain to translate, and I kept putting it off these last two years despite it being comedy gold.
Yonezawa and Azuma Hideo believe Aichmophobia is deeply related to Lolicon. But to explain Lolicon, one needs to understand King Mark Complex, and also understand Lolicon not being unrelated to Gerontophilia. Understanding 1980s Lolicon requires understanding Femme Objet.



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And then there's the abortion. A sense of alienation that maybe I, myself, should never have been brought into this world. Conversely, a sense of guilt I was the only one to be born.

The commercial magazine Hirukogami Ken edited, Petit Pandora (プチパンドラ) has an article that explains 'the abortion' that traumatised him. He wrote almost a dozen columns called 'I Hate Foreigners', but practically all of them are about Christianity. I decided to translate the 5th and then 1st column in their entirety to convey the tone and style of Hirukogami's writings, and wrote a brief summary of all the other columns that had parts I thought were interesting.

Most of the illustrations from the following Petit Pandora issues were by Kitazono Mirei (北園美麗), though some later ones are by Matsubara Kaori (松原香織). Petit Pandora has a bevy of characters with some important ones being Russky (ロスケ), Kuraemon (クラエモン), and finally Hiruko-chan. Hirukogami Ken has two avatars, one is the Lolicon degenerate he cosplays as like in the above interview, and the other is a rarely-seen Loli version of himself called Hiruko-chan. I haven't seen any comics or illustrations where both avatars interact with each other. Lemon People has many artists depicting Hirukogami Ken with his Lolicon degenerate avatar, but that avatar is almost nowhere to be found in Petit Pandora.


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Norma the Catgirl by Matsubara Kaori (松原香織). This artist has plenty of tankoubon on sad panda, but I don't know much about her.


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Source:『プチパンドラ Vol.05』 1985/12

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Prejudice Trivia Lesson for Good Children
——I Hate Foreigners——


By Hirukogami Ken (蛭児神 建)


This series is finally hitting its 5th part. I was rereading the previous parts and suddenly realised this has been turning out to be more 'I Hate Religion' than 'I Hate Foreigners...'. There's also opinions I'm being too difficult.

Well, it's true when talking about Western civilisation, it's impossible to separate it from Christianity, and as someone who wasted his precious adolescence in a religious group, there's some aspects I cannot help but be concerned about.

During my high school days, I was placed in the box that is Unificationism (after moving between Jehovah's Witnesses, Catholicism, and so on), and she was a member of the Seichou no Ie (生長の家). Both of which are the most dangerous organisations in Japan. Compared to them, Soka Gakkai (創価学会) is a healthy organisation that simply charges 3,000 yen per hour.
Unification Church (Wiki)
Seichou no Ie (Wiki); the Religious Organisation Hirukogami's mother belonged.
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Naturally, whenever I participated, it was all about religion, and I graduated without knowing even my ABCs. After which, I was a complete mess... I joined a certain Nichiren sect of Buddhism, became obsessed with dark Pure Literature, read shoujo manga, ran towards Lolicon, and created doujinshi... I did everything I could to be undutiful to my parents. Ultimately, my body has fallen to the depths of becoming an editor...

Thanks to them, I'm still single at 27 years old. You stupid religious bastards!! Give me back my youth!

On top of that, ever since I was shown by her organisation a panel photograph of a dismembered foetus that had been aborted at the time, I have become a fanatical anti-abortion advocate. Even now, that pitiful visage has been burned into my mind and won't go away... (Despite all that, I doubt anyone has done anything even after being shown a photo like that...).

Anyways, this time I'll move away from religion and write about something somewhat lighter.

Now then, I hate Western-style toilets. Not only is it unclean to have your bottom touch the seat directly, but the position makes it impossible to strain. In addition, you cannot monitor your health by easily inspecting what you discharged and determining your physical condition that day.

Why do ignorant, Western-obsessed folk yearn for such things!? Don't imitate inferior races with zero sense of hygiene who put their toilets in the same room as their bathtubs!

Ergonomically speaking (I'm an architecture school graduate, so I have strong opinions about this), Japanese-style toilets are more logical. Squatting puts pressure on the abdomen, making it easier to expel what's inside your body. This is precisely why white people are more likely to be constipated than other races.

Also, thanks to the AIDS epidemic, it seems they're finally beginning to realise that 'indirect butt kissing' is unclean. Apparently, the consumption of toilet paper has skyrocketed because people lay them in a thick layer on top of toilet seats.

So how the hell did such malformed toilets come into being...? The history of Western Europe is also the Dark Age for toilets.

In ancient Rome, there was a kind of flush toilet (although water just flowed through a groove at the bottom). Some toilets were discovered before that at the ruins of Babylon and Mohenjo-daro.

However, at about the same time the centre of culture shifted towards Christianity, they disappeared, and there were no toilets left. Considering the important role that urination and defecation played in Satanic rituals, such as Mass, it seems Christians believed that defecation was 'inhuman and against God's teachings'. I'll give you proof, there's no mention of Jesus Christ defecating (how lame...).

In the end, I always arrive at the same conclusion: Christianity is to blame.

The flush toilet was reinvented in England in the 19th century, but even after that, chamber pots were the mainstream in Western Europe until the early 20th century. In the early days, the plumbing work was immature, so sewage flowed into the water supply, which actually caused cholera.

It's well known the Palace of Versailles didn't have toilets. The nobles mainly relieved themselves in the shade of the hedges, so the gardens were said to give out a foul stench.

Now, when considering toilets from a functional perspective, they can be broadly divided into three types based on how they dispose of the waste.

The first type are the most basic where you return the waste to the soil. This is the Japanese pit toilet.

The second type is the one where you flush waste into the water. In the past, this was the origin of the word Kawaya (Toilet), and it was made by laying a board over a stream.

The third type is the one where waste is fed to animals. A typical example is the pig toilet that's still found in the countryside of China. Put simply, it's a pig under the toilet. The pig is then crushed and eaten during celebrations.

I've forgotten the details, but apparently, there's a tribe in Africa that creates a toilet in the middle of a fish farm. They never eat the plump fish themselves, but rather sell them to other tribes. From this perspective alone, African natives are much more civilised than the Chinese...!

Now then, Western civilisation up until modern times did not belong to any of these. It's a culture of dumping that predates animals.

In Paris back in those days, when escorting a woman, the opposite of today, the gentleman walked on the side of the buildings and the lady walked on the side of the road. Meaning, many people threw the contents of their chamber pots out their windows. It's not just because of perfume Paris was called the 'Fragrant City' by other countries. Even gorillas dug holes away from their nests to be used as communal toilets...

The prototype of the modern Western-style toilet was created in the 16th century—when King Henry Ⅷ of England used a seated potty. I wonder if a noble king would've thought it against his pride to defecate in the same position as a lowly commoner. If I were to speculate, I would say the king was either very fat or defective (physically disabled).

It's true Western-style toilets are convenient for those who find it difficult to squat——like fat people, those with haemorrhoids, those with disabilities, pregnant women, and the elderly.

Western-style toilets started to spread among the commoners after the invention of the flush toilet in the 19th century. However, the fact such a thing was so widely used is itself a symbol of the distortion of modern welfare culture, where healthy people are forced to endure inconveniences for the disabled. I believe this is cute, so I won't write any more about it!!!

As an aside, let's talk about the now popular, "I Want to Wash my Butt" toilet. It was first put into practical use in Japan at the Gas Pavilion at the Osaka Expo held 15 years ago. It was half-experimental, but it was a highlight that was properly used by customers. It was called a gas toilet back then.

The person who actually installed it was... a lecturer who taught me facility design when I was a student. Apparently, he installed a hidden microphone and recorder in the women's restroom while doing the work. And well... when he played it back, it sounded like the women felt very good when the hot water hit their privates. From what I hear, there were also a lot of funny voices recorded. Even though he was my mentor, he was a bad guy. Whatever, it's past the statute of limitations.

Come to think of it, one of his great sayings I learned at that school was, "If you can't stand while you design, you're not a first-rate architect."

That's my sordid story for today, so bye-bye for now~♥

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Christian Missionary Stealing a Loli's Virginity Because Mirei Didn't Want to Draw a Vulgar Picture Involving Toilets.

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Source: 『プチパンドラ』 1984年09月 Vol.01

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Prejudice Trivia Lesson for Good Children
——I Hate Foreigners——


By Hirukogami Ken (蛭児神 建)


One of director Kubrick's famous works, which is one of my favourite movies, is the masterpiece 'Dr. Stangelove'. The story's about an incompetent and alcoholic US air force base commander who sends a nuclear B-51 bomber to the Soviet Union without permission. The final result being the Soviet Union's doomsday weapon causing all the people on Earth to commit suicide together as a family... (It doesn't sound funny when summarised in this manner, but it's actually a hilarious slapstick comedy.)

But anyways, in this movie, the base commander says the following. "I only drink mineral water because the Russians dumped 'something' into the water supply."

The source of this 'something' is the important theme of this article.

In the latter half of the 18th century, a strange heretical sect of Christians called Skoptsy appeared in Imperial Russia during the reign of Etekarina Ⅱ. The primary doctrine of this group, also known as the 'Castrationists', is an extreme interpretation of the words of Jesus in Matthew 18, "If your hand or foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away..." In other words, they cut off the thing that causes them to commit adultery (castration involves either removing a man's balls or his reproduction organs [dick] entirely).

Well, if they kept this to only amongst themselves, then there's no harm. If the descendants of religionists don't survive, that's a good thing.

But these guys try to force 'that' onto others. After all, their ultimate goal is to deprive humans throughout the earth of their reproductive ability, leading to their extinction and hastening the 'Last Judgment' (there's no comparison to the selfish secret society 'Shocker' who wants to halve the world's population).

So, it seems they would often snatch strangers passing by and forcibly castrate them.

Of course, such a religion would be persecuted (though Christians would be happy to be persecuted). According to records, a considerable number of them (several hundred) were sent to Siberia, where a kind of Skoptsy were formed.

But well, these share many exceptions. They were a fanatically good people who considered aestheticism to be a virtue. They never ate meat, and lived hardworking and frugal lives, so it would be strange if they didn't have any money. They had enough to bribe police officers. So, even though they had a strange appearance that was clearly recognisable as Skoptsy due to their hormonal abnormalities——the true face of a transsexual okama——the police would turn a blind eye.

In fact, there were many wealthy merchants, moneylenders, and moneychangers among the Skoptsy. It's said that when they lent money to men, they'll always take the man's 〇〇 as collateral. In other words, "If you can't pay me back, then I'm taking your 〇〇!" Meaning, they were like 'The Merchant of Venice' or rather 'The Merchant of Penis'. (Oops, there's the punchline. Throw it away.)

However, after the Russian Revolution, the persecution of Skoptsy became more severe. In 1930, there were about 2,000 Skoptsy remaining in the Soviet Union, but since the officials of the new government were followers of Marxism, which says 'religion is opium', they mercilessly dealt them a devastating blow.

Meanwhile, they continued to promote the existence of Skoptsy abroad. The reason is to assert, "We're not persecuting religion without reason, but we're doing it because of people like this."

However, there were people who almost intentionally misinterpreted this information. This includes the typical American.



Generally speaking, there's too many idiots in America who make a big fuss without knowing anything. Right after our defeat, General MacArthur had defatted soybeans and corn sent from his home country to Japan, where the food situation was extremely bad. However, it seems some Americans were furious when they found out about this.

"These Japanese have some nerve! They lost the war and yet we're forced to send them feed for their livestock." Eei, you bastard! Our parents' and grandparents' generations were fighting over it to eat! Which reminds me, skim milk powder was what my generation was forced to drink for school lunches until I was in the lower grades of elementary school. That stuff's feed for American pigs? Eii, how miserable!

Anyways, it's the same with the trade and whale issues. Frankly, you would be crazy to take them seriously.



Digression aside.

Now then, there are two main types of right-wing groups in America. Fanatical Christian groups (those who seriously treat everything in the Bible as truth and that evolution shouldn't be taught in schools) and anti-Semitic, anti-Christian groups (those who hold Nazi-style racial theories). The latter group has started to say some pretty interesting things.

To put it simply, according to their argument, Christianity and Communism are essentially the same thing (though it's true early Christians lived a sort of communist lifestyle). And Skoptzyism is the purest form of Christianity. Therefore, all Russians are Skoptsy...... quite a wonderful syllogism.

These self-proclaimed patriots truly believed the Soviet Union was a 'great, evil secret society trying to take over the world through the Skoptsy', and began to fight day and night for justice. Yes, there may already be colluding Skoptsy within the United States! (The reason Americans hate Communists may not simply be a difference in ideology, but because they're afraid of having their dicks chopped off~♥)

On September 1st of 1958, when General Secretary Khrushchev, visited New York to attend the United Nations General Assembly, the following rumour was spread. That Khrushchev, the boss of the Russian Skoptsy, had met with New York Governor Nelson Rockefeller (Jewish surname), or rather they had a secret meeting with the head of the American Skoptsy. What was the terrifying plan that was hatched on this occasion?!? What? They were going to dump fluoride (the stuff in toothpaste) into New York's water supply! Rockefeller said it was to prevent tooth decay for the citizens, but don't be fooled! It was the Jews all along. If a man were to drink fluoridated water for a long period, he will unknowingly lose his reproductive ability and be forced to become a Skoptsy! (I'm kidding, but seriously...)

Yes, it was a very roundabout story, but the 'something' mentioned in 'Dr. Strangelove' was this fluoride.

Hey, you, the Onii-san over there. If you brush your teeth too much, you'll become impotent! Hey, Nee-chan, just put up with garlicky kisses! It's the Americans you love who said it, so it must be true!

In a tentative facade, freedom of religion is recognised in the Soviet Union today, so are there any Skoptsy? There's no information about that at all. But it would be funny if they really did exist—♥

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Russky Losing His Family Jewels and Kuraemon Nailed to a Cross.
But it would be funny if they really did exist—♥
The Skoptsy still exist; they're the ones behind the fashion-trans movement trying to trick homosexual and SF-minded boys to voluntarily cut their balls off, enriching the Skoptsy and pushing humanity closer to extinction. Hirukogami's right; it's Christianity's fault.

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Petit Pandora 'I Hate Foreigners' Brief Summaries


Vol 2: ●Christianity, the Religion of Pigs●

Hirukogami Ken discusses the difference between Japanese and Western bathing culture, and how it's Christianity's fault for destroying European bathing culture ('those with clean bodies have unclean souls'). When Hirukogami is too busy to take a bath for over a week, he says he smells like a Christian.


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Marika-chan (真理香) Working at Her Part-time Job. Marika-chan is one of the several Bishoujo characters that appear in issues of Petit Pandora.

Vol 3: ●Jehovah is a Demon, a Shinigami●

The cheerful and half-crazy Hirukogami continues his fight against idiots obsessed with foreigners! He responds to a letter telling him his column should only be about Russians and Jews, but he says speaking ill of those guys is no fun because no matter what he says, it's 'obvious and justified'; they've done every bad thing in the book. Then he responds to a letter about writing something about the Soka Gakkai (創価学会), but unfortunately, the Soka Gakkai aren't foreigners despite being annoying; they have over 20 million followers, which was around 20% of Japan's population (meaning one in five are Soka Gakkai members), and if that were true, Hirukogami wouldn't feel safe walking around town.

While Hirukogami Ken hates the religious organisations and people that call themselves Christianity, he himself believes in the teachings of Jesus Christ, and goes into a history lesson about Jesus. Mary being 12~13 years old when she gave birth to Jesus, and remaining a virgin after being impregnated (because God had a very small penis). Then Hirukogami talks about the Judeo-Christian God Jehovah not being in a very high position in a certain sect, but being a jealous, perverse, and evil god. Jehovah didn't create the Earth, but created woman, Eve, to destroy the Earth and Adam. But the 'True God of Heaven' sent a snake so man will eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge so they have a weapon of knowledge to fight against Jehovah.


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Jehovah Raping Marika-chan.

Vol 4: ●A Bishoujo (Love) Artist More Lovely than a Flower and a Cool, Summer Breeze●

Hirukogami Ken talks about Jehovah Witnesses refusing a blood transfusion in Kawasaki, leading to a 10 year-old boy losing his life due to his parents' religious beliefs, making him ponder 'freedom of religion':

The frightening thing about religion is that it affirms 'absolute good'. And because of that, they believe most actions are permissible. I know this from personal experience, having spent most of my precious teenage years in a religious group (Crazy Club).

Hirukogami Ken then goes on to explain the interesting religious groups that originated in America like the Jehova Witnesses, who have over ten thousand followers in Japan selling magazines such as 'Watchtower' [ものみの塔] and 'Awake' [目ざめよ!].

The Church of Armageddon (commonly known as Love Family [ラブ・ファミリー]) who reject all medical procedures and forbid the use of glasses, who killed a bunch of people using paint thinner and inhaling marijuana. They sell interesting religious manga about bar codes in supermarkets being a plot by Satan.

God's Children (commonly known as Love of Family [ラブ・オブ・ファミリー]) which Hirukogami Ken doesn't know much about, but they also sell interesting religious manga.

Under Armstrongism (アームストロング教), who believe the Anglo-Saxans are a lost tribe of Isreal, Hirukogami Ken mentions a theory that the Japanese and the Jews are of the same ancestry.


Hirukogami lists about a dozen others, but other than Edgar Cayce, who was famous among Japanese psychic fans, none of them are worth mentioning here.

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Illustration completely unrelated to the contents of the article (guess it was too hard to depict all the different varieties of Christianity in America).
So Mirei drew Hiruko-chan and Kureamon engaging in XXX.


Vol 6: ●<No Chapter Title>●

Hirukogami Ken talks about being upset he won't be able to eat whale anymore despite his generation being fed nothing but whale meat for lunch at school. How the Americans murdered whales to squeeze them for oil before tossing the carcass into the ocean, and that Japan shouldn't be lumped with Americans when they use whales carefully, down to every bone.


He goes on to saying that the practise of eating cows was an American thing forced upon the Japanese during the last century, and that the Japanese treated their cows like family members and that eating them was tantamount to murder. He describes the Christian missionaries to Japan who lived on a luxurious diet of meat and wine back in their home country being unlike the Buddhist monks who—even if only in theory—forbade eating meat, preferring abstinence and simple food.

Hirukogami Ken says it's a pity Japan didn't have a beautiful custom of boiling and eating missionaries like Marco Polo's note on the Japanese being idolatrous cannibals.


He then includes a transcription of a modernised dialogue between a Japanese official and Ambassador Harris:
Official: "You said you wanted a cow earlier, but the farmers around here love them like family and won't let them go. Give it up." (We won't sell to guys who eat cows! I bet you guys eat human flesh, right?)

Harris: "No, look, I just want to drink the milk. Please, good sir, sell it to me."

Official: "Hmm, no, dummy. First of all, cow milk is normally... for calves to drink, you know?" (It's food for babies, why would a grown man want to drink something like that? And stealing and drinking the milk a cow gives to raise its young is an act lower than a beast. You savage!!)

Harris: "I can milk it myself..." (You raise cows and don't eat them or drink their milk?!? You savage!!)

This question and answer went on and on, and in the end, Harris wasn't able to drink milk even once during his two years in Japan.

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Hiruko-chan, Russky, and Kureamon with Japanese family member, Cow-chan, and the whale Russky wants to eat.

Vol 7: ●<No Chapter Title>●


Hirukogami Ken uses this article to compare the histories of Jesus and Buddha. He says according to Catholic doctrine, even after giving birth to Jesus, Mary never had sex with Joseph and remained a virgin for the rest of her life. It's around here, I stopped trying to clean up these transcriptions.

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Catgirl and Jesus Christ

Vol 8: ●<No Chapter Title>●

Issui-sha (一水社), the Pandora editorial department, was located in a rented office on the 8th floor of an 8-story building that stood tall in Shinbashi, Tokyo's business district. Hirukogami tells a story about going to work and seeing a ridiculous car with a jet-black body and KKK written with big red letters on the front and sides. He couldn't believe there would be a KKK propaganda car in Japan, but when he examined it closely, it was a waste paper (i.e. manga) exchanger (for toilet paper) car. Suggesting Japanese people could trade in their black people for toilet paper to this KKK car. Then Hirukogami Ken begins a history lesson about the KKK, Black Israelites, and how Christians used the story of Noah to justify their treatment of black people because they descended from Noah's son who saw him passed out drunk and butt naked.

The article ends with the following:
However, well... To be honest, I also hate black people. I can forgive those who stay in Africa and America, but I hate the black people who come to Japan. They don't take baths, so they stink (ahh, this also goes for white people), they smoke cheap cigars that smell awful (white people also smoke these), and on top of that, their dicks are huge! (White people also have big ones, but nothing compared to black people.)

I once saw a black man's thing in a porno video, it was a splendid tool he could thrust into the mouth of a woman lying on the floor with one knee on the ground. It was at least 40cm long.

As a man, I can painfully understand the feeling of not wanting to accept such a monster as a human being. If you don't believe they're livestock on the same level as horses and cows, then you'll want to die from a complex about their thing. I believe this is the true nature of racism against black people. Am I wrong?

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Hiruko-chan Worshipping BBC (Big Black Cock) while Jesus Burns on a Cross.

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Yes, I translated these Petit Pandora articles because these illustrations are so outrageous, I'm terrified of posting them on any social media because I bet I would be immediately banned. They're the most incredible things I've seen last year. Someone should create a movie about the Skoptsy menace; the evil religions in Japanese video games and anime pale in comparison to a literal ball-cutting cult.


Anime by One of the Two Most Dangerous Religious Organisations According to Hirukogami Ken:
 
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Now for something completely different.

While Kawamoto Kouji claimed he was the original Demon Style (鬼畜系) writer, out of the many individuals who existed in Japan, Aoyama Masaaki has had the most profound and negative effect on the youth of Japan in the 1980s and 1990s. His influence was so profound that according to an interview included in the 2004 biography 'Tajiri Satoshi: The Man Who Created Pokémon'* (田尻智~ポケモンを創った男) (Link), Tajiri Satoshi (田尻智), the creator of Pokémon, was a huge fan of Aoyama Masaaki's writing during Aoyama's days writing for Keio University's mini-communication magazine 'Mutation' (突然変異), which was said by Shiina Makoto (椎名誠) to be 'the original evil that ruined Japan' (briefly appearing in regular bookstores to appal and horrify normal people). Satoshi says 'Mutation' inspired him to create his own fanzine called 'Game Freak', and the rest is history.
※This book shouldn't be confused with the manga biography published in 2018 (English Summary Link).

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In short, it's because of Aoyama Masaaki rubbing a rebellious spirit into Tajiri that Pokémon has become such a big hit all throughout the world, leading to many boys and girls growing up wanting to fuck Pikachu and Eevee, so for all of the Pokémon fans, you get a rare chance to read an example of the Demon Style genre that influenced Tajiri Satoshi to create the fanzine 'Game Freak'. I decided to translate the best (worst?) of the bunch that was reprinted in Lolicon Hakusho.

If you fancy yourself one of those who mock those who cannot separate fiction from reality, you can test yourself by separating the fiction of Demon Style from reality; instead of giving an eulogy or normal speech, perhaps one can read out 'How to Lolita' to see how far they make it before someone from the audience steps up to give them a knuckle sandwich right in the kisser. Perhaps this should be mandatory reading at every Pokémon fan convention.

I also translated Aoyama Masaaki's final interview before he committed suicide, despite one of his classmates for 'Mutation' saying he was a Lolicon monomaniac, Aoyama's true passion was writing about drugs. He did a talk with Okada Toshio about drugs that was supposed to appear in his 'Toudai Otaku Lectures' book, but because of his arrest for Cannabis possession, Kodansha forced Okada to omit Aoyama's talk from his book. Earlier, I translated a talk between Aoyama Masaaki and Shimizu about Japanese Lolita history, and Takatori Ei mentioned Aoyama in his article printed in 'The Tsukuru', and then there's the autobiography earlier by the guy who was an assistant to both Kagami Akira (before he died) and Azuma Hideo (before he disappeared) that mentioned his brief interaction with Aoyama Masaaki and his buddies asking him to draw whatever manga he could imagine with no limitations.

Aoyama Masaaki (青山正明):
A pioneer of the Demon Style genre of writing, he discussed a wide range of topics from drugs, Lolicon, scatology, and freaks to cult movies, techno, occult, fringe music, heretical thought, and the spiritual world in the underground scene. He had a huge impact on the subculture of the 1980s and 1990s, and was hailed as a rare genius editor even during his lifetime. Among Japanese writers who wrote about drugs, he was unique in his practical and pharmacological writings, and was a self-proclaimed hedonist. He hanged himself at his home in Yokosuka Kanagawa Prefecture on June 17th of 2001. He died at the age of 40.

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Original (Unverified) Source: 『Hey!Buddy』1981/12
Reprinted (Verified) Source: 『ロリコン白書―ロリコン同人誌ベスト集成』1982/7


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Cover by Hayasaka Miki (早坂美紀) (Wiki)
How to Lolita

Ways of the Pleasure-Seeking Youjo Fancier
―Controlling Youjo Minds―

Aoyama Masaaki (青山正明) (Wiki)


It doesn't hurt to know!
The ABCs of Youjo Love.


Prologue


Now, this kind of enjoyment's blowing up delusions full of gloom, whilst roaming the neighbouring elementary school in a state where the pulsations of my own e'er erect and horny dick were rocking my entire body, I happened upon a cute girl clad in hot pants, and from the shadows, I stared intently at an arse that was nice and plump for her age, burning that image into my retinas, I took the chance to get a good look at her name tag, memorising her grade, class, and name, and then I flew back home to masturbate furiously as the voices of children lingered in my ears, climaxing and screaming '4th year, class 3, Shimizu Yukie-chan's arse~!', or I'm at my happiest stocking up on Lolita Mooks, like Little Pretenders, and holing myself in my room, flipping through the pages with one hand and masturbating like an Oni with the other from morning to night. You could say I'm speaking from experience......

Well, setting aside such an absurdly long run-on sentence, even if it's me saying so, human sexuality, in effect, is something whose progress cannot be halted; once you run into it, it's better if you can tread as far as you can in a series of malaise and blind groping. So, I would like to explain in detail how Lolita pleasure-seeking can be reached by dividing the pursuit into three stages and sharing my own experiences.

Stage A: Kissing for Adults

The first step for the sake of dedicating your entire existence to Youjo!!

①Imagine a Youjo and Achieve an Erection.

This may not need any explaining, but we get erections all the time, right? Thinking about all sorts of things...... Things like I want that high schoolgirl to beat me with her school bag, or I want that OL-ish and standoffish lady to get on all fours so I can use a toothpick to dig out the shit stuck betwixt her anus wrinkles...... If you unconsciously replace the high schoolgirl or OL appearing in these sorts of fantasies with an elementary schoolgirl and achieve an erection, that's akin to you already having a license to Hentai. (To be Hentai is truly an intelligent and human action, separate from the preservation of our species. Hentai are highbrow and handsome men. By the way, I'm a Hentai.) This is the starting point for Youjo fanciers. How far you can get from here depends largely on your motivation.

②Erection Walk

When you grow bored of photos (inert), next is moving. Whether it's strolling the city or riding the train, you'll be constantly aware of the breasts and thighs of elementary schoolgirls, giving yourself a painful erection. Even if a high schoolgirl with a curly perm approaches you and rubs her body right up against you, you don't feel any pleasure at all. You are in a state of enlightenment, banishing all worldly desires other than elementary schoolgirls.

③Crossroad

Coming here, there are those who will drop out from the Youjo-coloured path. Sifted from this are the guys who'll waste the present to dedicate their entire lives for the sake of Youjo. Some study hard to become doctors or elementary school teachers, while others enter publishing companies under the guise of editing erotic magazines to get closer to children. Some want to become swimming school instructors, so they can swim all the time, muttering to themselves, "This, this single crawling stroke's the first step towards that toddler's crotch!" The darkest among these, trying to lure children with the help of bewitchment, are those who have mastered Esoteric Buddhism and devoted themselves to employing the power of Buddhism to control the minds of Youjo.


Stage B: Petting for Adults

If you made a Youjo drink cock juice, you have already graduated from Stage B!!

Now it's finally time for Stage B. This stage is actually an agonisingly long and dark journey before one fucks a girl. However, because of its depth, it's a grand panorama of the Youjo Fancier-type Hentai Path that makes viewers feel a sense of augustness that's difficult to approach. Come, behold the picture scrolls of paradise unfolding between an old geezer and an elementary schoolgirl!

①Lust in the Public Baths

Sometimes when I'm at the public baths, a father will bring along his daughter. Often I wonder, "Ah~, that pure white and cute girl was created from that black, dirty-looking dick~." In the public baths, it's normal for regulars in the neighbourhood to enter at a set time (due to work or TV), so I'll stake out the front of the bath house for a week to check the day and time a girl enters. I would prefer to refrain from the blunder of soaking in the baths thoughtlessly, getting a nosebleed waiting in anticipation for a girl's appearance.

This Lolita bathing table can be created by going to public baths here and there. If one does this, it'll be obvious what time and day, and which bath house, one should visit to see the nude body of a girl. If one visits around 4~5 bath houses in a day, one can see about 30 naked girls in a week. With this table in hand, one can change cars and buses, and run around to take about 30 to 40 baths a week... How nice.

At 'Umenoyu' facing Umekoukai Street, a 5 minute walk from Umeyakashiki Station on the Keihin Kyuukou Line, every Saturday at 8:30pm, a girl around the second year of elementary school reveals her form. I must've had countless erections at Umenoyu. There were many times my face transformed into an Oni thinking, "I wanna wank asap."

②The Park is Full of Youjo

The joys of turning girls playing in the park into spank material... Although one might say such, skilfully luring elementary schoolgirls in broad daylight saying things like, "Let me especially show you my secret Matsuda Seiko bromide." And then taking them into a dark alley to bully them is Stage C, and keeping it as a wet negative to the bitter end is Stage B.

The park at noon... Elementary schoolgirls chatting while chewing bubble gum. That's right, that gum is the spank material. The girls will finish chewing their gum, wrap it in paper, and throw it away. Wait, don't lose your cool. The girls left the park. There, now! Casually approach the discarded gum, pick it up. Gum soaked in the saliva of an elementary schoolgirl...... Just imagining it is enough to heat up your loins and turn your face into an Oni. If you don't have the courage to do it during the day, then you can do it at night. However, in this case, some time-consuming preparations are necessary. Even if you rummage through the park's bin at night and find some gum, there's no guarantee it has been chewed by an elementary schoolgirl. The same goes for candy sticks. So, visit a candy shop near the park in advance and buy every type of gum they sell. Try chewing it yourself. Spit out the gum after you're done chewing and sniff it. This way you'll be able to determine the gum by smell alone. With this, preparations complete. At night, rummage through the park's bin, sniff each piece of chewed up gum, and classify them. If it's Lotte's chewing gum, it didn't belong to an elementary schoolgirl. It would be a waste if you get an erection from something like that. For reference, the gum elementary schoolgirls often chew are Meiji's Petit Gum (grape flavour) or ones from products featuring characters from popular shoujo manga.

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Lotte Chewing Gum (Obviously these are predominately chewed by grossly overweight Pokémon fuckers.)

③Elementary Schoolgirl Moaning Tapes


Sitting on a bench with a cassette tape recorder in hand near elementary schoolgirls playing in the park or on the roadside. I record the raw voices of Shoujo playing on a cassette tape, while I have a sports newspaper spread out like a complete twit, I don headphones and make sure I record with a look that says, "I'm crazy about horse racing, I'm definitely not a Hentai. I'm not gonna record the voices of these children, return home, and masturbate like an Oni, forsooth." Then, at night, with a Lolita Mook by my side, I'll masturbate like an Oni while listening through my headphones to voices such as, "No way~~Micchan, not fair~~."

④Stealing

I'll tail a cute elementary schoolgirl on her way home from school. Once I discover her home, I'll ditch my studies or work to spend the whole day spying on her house. Waiting patiently for an opportunity. The garbage put out on Wednesdays and Fridays every week. The laundry hanging from the eaves...... I'll steal! I'll steal everything I can find! It doesn't matter if it's the seat of a bicycle the elementary schoolgirl was sitting on. Just steal, steal, steal!

⑤Elementary School Invasion

First of all, the easiest time to enter an elementary school during the day is during sports day. In contrast to the splendour of the grounds where the competitions are taking place, the interior of the school building will be terribly quiet. So, I'll first look for a cute girl in the schoolyard and memorise her grade, class, and name written on the front of her gym uniform. Then, I'll head to the shoe cupboard and steal her indoor shoes. Indoor shoes give off a more stimulating scent than the insides of a girl's cotton panties. It's also possible to sneak into her classroom and rummage through her desk. Even if I'm spotted by a teacher on patrol, I remain cool and unperturbed saying, "Ahh, I'm Nakayama Yukari's cousin, and Yukari just asked me to bring her the flute she left in the classroom, I have absolutely no intention of taking this flute back home to suck on it and masturbate like an Oni."

Even on days other than sports day, as long as you dress like a janitor with a bamboo broom, wearing khaki top and bottoms, and rubber boots, you are free to come and go as you please. Last fall, I had the good fortune to discover a bloodstained napkin in the girls' bathroom at Toshima Ward's N Elementary School. I still keep it in my desk as a treasure. I also pray it doesn't belong to the PTA...

⑥Medical Books

In our country where pornography has been banned, the only place you can see female pussy photos (along with hermaphrodite ladyman pussy) is in medical books. And what I would particularly like to recommend here is the section they call paediatric gynaecology. It appears Japan is quite behind Europe and the United States in this unique field of study, but nevertheless, three or four specialist books have been edited and published. The one called 'Illustrated Clinical Obstetrics and Gynaecology Volume 4: Paediatric Gynaecology' (図説臨床産婦人科講座第四巻・小児婦人科学) is amazing. When you open it to page 27, you'll see the vaginas of elementary and middle schoolgirls aged 10 and 14 spread wide open as far as their fingers can spread them. They're the size of business cards, but in vivid colour. They clearly depict the whitish hymen and wispy pubic hair that's just starting to grow in.

⑦Youjo Cock Juice Drinking

This is a pleasure you can only experience if you're a private tutor or have brought elementary schoolgirls into your home. Smear your own cock juice into the yoghurt or cake you'll be serving as a snack. The angelic elementary schoolgirl will then drink your cock juice. Seeing this will give you an erection. It's a pleasure only Hentai can experience, requiring a high degree of neurosis.

⑧Spuit Operation

Pour your cock juice into a spuit. And then carry it with you at all times. The rest is up to your imagination and bold action to greaten or lessen your enjoyment. You could 'puchu~' it on the water faucet in the park, or you could 'puchu~' it on a passing girl’s skirt to make it nice'n shiny. By the way, I once squirted my cock juice onto Sugita Kaoru aboard the Inokashira Line train. I would like to take this moment to brag about it in a magazine.

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Stage C: Until the End of Course

In case of emergency, take polaroid photos of the sex scene!!

➀How to Hook Children

ⒶUsing Your Position


This is peaceful work using occupations that involve contact with children such as teachers, swimming school instructors, volunteers, and so on. Removing a child's cautiousness is the most legitimate and safe condition to 'fucking a child'.

ⒷGrasping the Child's Weakness!

Witness them shoplifting, or buying and eating sweets, and make full use of it to intimidate elementary schoolgirls. If you cannot happen upon such a coincidence, there's also the roundabout method of giving some kind of reward to a bully the same age as the girl and having them bully her. Either way, pay attention to the conversation you have with the elementary schoolgirl you are interested in, and casually find out her weaknesses and complexes. You can use this as a form of coercion, so if you hear her mutter something like 'I can't do math' or 'I wanna see a movie', you can make a productive suggestion like, "I can help you with that." In return, you can demand her body as payment. Since ancient times, sex with young girls was treasured for the reason it doesn't cost any money. Giving a Youjo partner a 10,000 yen bill is utter foolishness. A few hundred yen's enough for a manga book. That said, it's not good to buy children too many gifts. Parents are sensitive to what their children possess. When giving something to a child, think ahead about the necessity of buying such a thing and come up with an excuse so the parents don't realise you're only paying attention to their child such as, "Listen, when your Okaa-san asks 'what's this?', you can tell her 'my cram school teacher bought it for everyone on Children's Day'." When you take the child outside, call the child's house and let them know what time you will be back and actively communicate with the parents to ease their guard.

ⒸForceful Measure

This is a method of forcibly capturing a child and then violating them without any arrangements. Children these days won't go along with 'offers of candy'. So, you need to come up with a modern reason. Something like, "They're filming a TV episode of 'It's Time to Laugh' (笑ってる場合ですよ) over there!"...... You can also break into the house of a child who's left home alone. In this case, the most popular excuse is, "I'm here from school for a health check." For children that age, their parents and school are the two greatest authorities, so you simply need to think of words along the lines of an order. If you know in advance what time the family will be home, you can force your way in, pin the child down, and violate them.

ⒹChoosing the Child

In addition to the latchkey kids mentioned above, children with ●●, ●●●・●●●, and ●● children with ● or ● are relatively easy to ●.

②Doing It with a Child

Now then, when it reaches the stage of sleeping with a child, you mustn't hesitate. There's a famous quote from a psychophysiologist that says, "When you think of something, act within 8 seconds." Men who talk too much are disliked by elementary schoolgirls, just like adult women. It's important to immediately put your hands on the girl's skirt or underwear. Even if they resist at first, they are still a helpless child. Once they realise they cannot win, they will calm down. If the child is hysterical, she may bite her tongue, so roll up a handkerchief and shove it in her mouth.

By the way, what should be noted about SEX with children is its playfulness. There are few elementary schoolgirls who are devoted to only SEX. They will quickly grow bored of SEX ONLY. Therefore, you need to make them do stuff like lick chocolate off the manhood itself, play with pee flying everywhere, or let them hold a doll. Also, if the child starts bawling during the act, it's pointless to soothe them with your mouth. Gentle hugs work best with children this age.

③Aftermath

When you're finished doing it, it's essential to tell them to keep quiet by saying something like, "If your Okaa-san finds out, she'll be really angry." This hush-hush should be given plenty of weight. Children don't understand logic and are loose-lipped, so they won't stand a chance if their mother scolds them or asks them leading questions. You need to think of a way that will frighten the child to keep them quiet.

Also, in case of emergency, take a Polaroid of you and the child having sex, so that you can deal with the child's parents. Be prepared to say something like, "Even if I'm arrested, I've hidden that Polaroid and I'll spread it when I get out!"

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This is the last interview with the genius editor, Aoyama Masaaki.


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Source:『BURST』2000/09

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Listen to the Song of Old Geezers
(Recorded on July 3rd of 2000.)

Interviewer & Writer: Hirano Yuu (平野悠)


I've always disliked big things, strong things, the opinions of the majority, and what is considered common sense in society. I've always tried to live life with an anti-authority stance, as the proverbs say, 'rebellion is rational' and 'even a tiny insect has one-fifth of a soul'. So when something like the whole world starts to reject Aum, I always try to find something good about Aum; I don't want to succumb to the mighty will of the so-called majors, such as the Giants, the Liberal Democratic Party, the American Empire, or police authority. I'm a very contrarian person, but when I live this way discovering things, I find life to be quite thrilling and interesting.

Now then, the theme this time is drugs (麻薬). For me, this possesses a dangerous and suspicious sound, where I feel I cannot just accept them.

This may be because in the past I have witnessed many great musical artists, especially my beloved rockers, sink and become ruined by overdosing on these drugs.

And I don't have a firm opinion on the 'drugs' that are running rampant on the streets these days. Even though they're called drugs, they cover a wide range. The topic I wish to discuss on this occasion is illegal drugs, but the logic you shouldn't do drugs because you'll go to prison if you're caught with them will not stop youngsters interested in drugs, and I believe it's completely unconvincing. The consciousness of today's youth is changing at an incredible pace, as exemplified by the 17-year-old boy who asked, "Why shouldn't I kill people?" This moral logic doesn't get through to youngsters. 'Educational books' that only appeal to the dangers of drugs are also not persuasive. In this brutal age, there are many people 'living in a prison worse than prison', and fortunately there are drugs that allow these youngsters to somehow survive without committing suicide.

Aoyama once said, "In the past, yes, in our parents' generation, if you worked hard, you could have a house, and because it wasn't a gender-equal society like today, you could get an obedient wife who didn't say anything selfish, create a nice family, and if you worked hard, you could get promoted and live a richer life. There was a time when hard work was rewarded in many ways, the so-called high economic growth period, but in today's world, there are poor and rich people from birth. Also, not only in the political, business, and entertainment worlds, but also in the worlds of doctors and monks, it's a hereditary class society where connections are important, but ability, effort, and academic background have almost no meaning. Even if you get into a top company, if you see the old geezer next to you get laid off and leave, you cannot help but feel hopeless and transient. In such a society, more and more young people are unable to live positively, and I believe one of the reasons why drugs are so prevalent among people is that they turn to them for momentary pleasures. When we were students, we used to judge people based on what books they read, but nowadays, reading doesn't require any 'effort', just like the tendency to judge people based on their fleeting appearance and fashion."

I agree with his opinion that 'youngsters want to do drugs because there is no bright future or fun to be had'. What I'm hearing sounds like 'we have to do drugs to survive in this corrupted world'.

I'm sure there are plenty of interesting and fun things to do in this world without turning to drugs, and if you can just try to make the world around you better, even if only a little, that can be a power to change society. Even if you can't get promoted, I believe it's possible to live a fulfilling and fun life.

Aoyama Masaaki (Age 40) was born in Yokosuka in 1960. Editor-in-chief of 'Dangerous No.1' (危ない1号), and author of 'Dangerous Drugs' (危ない薬), 'Complete Manual to Using Adult Goods' (アダルトグッズ完全使用マニアル) (Both Published by Data House), and 'Front and Back Guide to Thailand's Ultimate Paradise' (表も裏もまるかじりタイ極楽ガイド) (Takarajimasha). A pioneer among Demon Style writers who deeply discusses the deep scenes, from cult movies and techno to heretical thought, spiritual worlds, Lolicon, drugs, and Hentai. Edited the legendary Demon Style cult mini-communication magazine 'Mutation' (突然変異) while attending Keio University. The magazine, which covered a wide range of topics from Lolita and the disabled to the Imperial family, gained enthusiastic supporters, but in 1982, it was attacked by the mass media, including the Asahi Shimbun, with cultural figures such as Shiina Makoto (椎名誠) calling it 'the original evil that ruined Japan' and 'this magazine is outrageous, it should be banned from the world!', and no bookstore would stock it, forcing it to cease serialisation. Afterwards, he witnessed the launch and collapse of things such as the legendary Lolicon general magazine 'Hey!Buddy' (ヘイ、バディ) published by Byakuya Shobo, and Sanwa Publishing's 'Sabbath' (サバド) and the special overseas travel magazine 'Eccentric' (エキセントリック). In 1995, 'Dangerous No.1' was launched, and that same year, he was arrested under the 'Cannabis Control Act'. In the summer of 1999, Aoyama's life work, a compilation of precious manuscripts from the past several decades, was completed with 'Dangerous No.1 Volume 4' and the magazine was discontinued. Concluding he had 'done everything he wanted to do', the genius editor Aoyama decided to move from the underworld to the upperworld, from shadow to light. His current theme is 'scheming to create a god in a godless age—an ideology derived from studying things such as psychoneuroimmunology, molecular nutrition, and Zen (he says he spent his days in a diligent recharge period, in the style of Okuzaki Kenzou [奥崎謙三]. No one may believe it, but has the genius Aoyama already approached the realm of the gods? I couldn't help but interject).

On January 10th of 1996, the talk event 'Demon Style Night' (鬼畜ナイト) was held at Shinjuku Loft Plus One as an encouragement event for Aoyama, who had just been released on bail. More than 30 questionable Demon Style people from all over Japan came as panelists, including Murasaki Hyakurou (村崎百郎), Yanashita Kiichirou (柳下毅一郎), Nemoto Takashi (根本敬), and Ishimaru Genshou (石丸元章), who held a truly 'dangerous talk show'. This legendary night continued until 6am the next morning with a packed house of questionable people. The contents of the talks that day were published by Data House as 'Demon Style Night', which sold a record of 70,000 copies.

July 3rd of 2000, cloudy with occasional thunderstorms. At 4pm, in the midst of the heavy thunderstorm, the editor known as the junkie genius editor, Aoyama Masaaki arrived at my office right on time. This was unbelievable. It had been a while since I last saw Aoyama, and he looked thinner and his complexion was worse than before. I was meaning to get a laugh out of him, but my opening remark was rude, completely rude.

I said with a laugh, "Eh~, today's theme is warning delinquents these (drugs) sent me into a dog-tired life and squandered a bright future!"

For a moment, Aoyama made a 'muhh'. It was already too late to regret my words by saying, "I blew it!" Miss Iijima (飯島) from BURST's editorial department, and Plus One's manager Katou Umezou (加藤梅造) were also in the Loft conference room, and tensions ran high. A heavy silence dominated the room for some time.

Then he broke the silence with confidence, "I haven't touched any illegal drugs for the last five years. That's because I don't want to end up behind bars again! But let me say this in parenthesis: if all drugs were legalised and I couldn't get arrested, I wouldn't mind doing them." I could see Aoyama's quiet face turning red.

I was also already desperate and asked another provocative question.

"If it's legal, you have no objection? If you're absolutely confident you won't be arrested by the police, you're fine with it? That sounds pretty irresponsible to me, but......"

"Obviously, the fear of getting arrested is the number one reason people don't do it. Another important thing is that once you experience the pleasure of drugs, psychoactive substances, you can't enjoy anything without them. That's the scary thing about drugs. The end result is you become addicted to drugs forever, ruining yourself. But it's the same as with alcohol. For example, you cannot enjoy a party or karaoke without alcohol, that's totally alcohol addiction. Alcohol is highly addictive, there are far more alcohol-related crimes than other drugs, and even in Japan, which has the highest percentage of non-drinkers in the world, 2.3 million people are suffering from alcoholism. The physical and mental dependency that makes it impossible to stop once you start, and the tolerance that increases steadily makes alcohol the king of drugs, on the same level as heroin, which is said to be the most dangerous."

"If we go by Aoyama-san's logic, doesn't it seem odd relatively safe drugs like methamphetamine, LSD, marijuana, and ecstasy are illegal, while extremely dangerous alcohol is legal?"

"Indeed, if you put it that way, the only one that's pathologically safe is marijuana, but if I start talking about it, it will get long and complicated, so I won't go into it...... Anyways, as long as it's legal, I think it's fine to try any drug, so long as you're prepared to become addicted."

I thought this was a problem.

My introduction of the first theme was poorly done, and the conversation didn't continue.

"Earlier, Hirano-san said dog-tired life (he was still hung up on this), but that's right. People who have a preconceived notion drugs are evil...... I hate interviews like that! Nothing good comes from them. I caught the attention of the police and was wiretapped. But I'm also a minor editor, and since I agreed to an interview, I'll say anything for BURST readers. It's true I'm hardly doing any work at the moment. So, it's offensive to be called dog-tired. That's because I have confidence in the work I've done so far, and I feel a sense of accomplishment I've already conveyed everything that needed to be conveyed, and now I'm in the stage of searching for the next step, the 'subject, theme'. For me, I have a huge attachment to books, and couldn't let them go ever since I reached the age of discretion, and made mini-magazines that sold thousands of copies in university, and I believe my policy on making books and what I want to convey for the time being has reached a certain, or rather, I believe I've already written everything I can to express the dark side of society at a commercial pace. I think now is a period of recharging to move on to the next stage... I think from now on, it will be an era of healing. I still have a lot to learn, so I hope to be able to write a book like this in the near future..."

Aoyama-san is certainly a legendary editor of Demon Style, and the most Hentai writer in Japan. I like people being sent to a dog-tired life. I didn't mean it with any discriminatory intention. I was aware the reason so many editors were now Ronin was because of drugs, but I reflected I had asked the question poorly in the first place, that it might have been a little off the mark. However, I thought if I backed down at this point and the interview turned into a complacent one, it wouldn't be any fun. So, I started asking provocative questions again.

"Why do you want to jump so badly? Did you have that many drug-related failures? It feels like you're from one of those groups who never learn."

"That's a question I get asked a lot, but I don't drink alcohol, so I feel the same about normal people drinking after work. Are they failure stories? They exist. I ended up bothering the people around me. You also drink, Hirano-san, right? You must've had many failure stories, right? It's the same thing. If it's something that's legally permitted, I wouldn't mind doing it, and just like with alcohol, I believe it's important to learn from your mistakes. I believe there'll still be people who drop out, whether it's from drugs or alcohol...... But as long as you maintain moderation and deal with it well, there's no problem. The reason why some people fail and others don't is a matter of innate temperament and willpower. I think it would be good to properly legalise marijuana, tax it like tobacco, and create welfare facilities to save those who are likely to fall, but...... I don't think there's anyone who'll become addicted to marijuana, but marijuana is much less harmful than tobacco......"

"Marijuana has been legalised in most developed Western countries, but I believe it can be the first trigger for people to turn to other, harder drugs. Don't you think that's a problem?"

"That's because marijuana is illegal. Because it's illegal, other illegal drugs like methamphetamine, LSD, and ecstasy ride along with it. I think that's from the perspective of the seller, rather than the buyer. Of course, if you want to live a normal life, it's best not to touch anything, including drugs that are currently legal. There's a certain percentage chance young people will learn about drugs, try them, and then become corrupted, so if you want to eliminate that risk, I think it's important not to touch them in the first place."

"Leaving aside legality and illegality, what is Aoyama-san's acceptable limit for drugs?"

"Only marijuana. All good drugs, like alcohol, tobacco, and medical drugs are addictive, and once you get into them, some people lose control. That's scary. Even stimulants used to be sold at local pharmacies, and they were perfect for long-distance truckers and people with hard jobs, and there are many people who use them well and live meaningful lives. If you use them well, I believe they're at least safer than alcohol. But heroin is in a class of its own. My ultimate dream is to become addicted to heroin when I'm definitely aware of my impending death and die from it...... I want to eventually turn to heroin only when I'm prepared to die, and since I'm not prepared to do that now, I don't think it's good......"

At this point, I had completely lost to Aoyama.

He was asking us, "If you do drugs (though Aoyama was referring to heroin), you become addicted and are ready to die, so go ahead and do it! Do you have the guts?" It may be a bit of a stretch, but I thought having come this far, I had achieved the purpose of my interview. I had taken his words to mean that if youngsters are going to do drugs, they shouldn't do it out of mere curiosity or for some half-hearted reason.

He might reply, "You haven't been listening to anything I've said up to now, have you?" But I guess that's the conclusion I wanted to reach. I was imagining the faces of many genius musicians, artists, and philosophers (whose names I won't mention here) who died from drugs in the past.

"Another important question is why are drugs so prevalent. I believe there's a problem with drugs and sex, and drugs and art, but...... For example, it's said the reason there are so many women among stimulant drug users is because the pleasure they feel during sex becomes so intense, it's also often said taking these drugs has an artistic creative and appreciative side, allowing people to produce better music or paint better. What are your thoughts on this?"

"Regarding the issue of drugs and sex, most drugs are generally designed to give women an advantage, and whether they're uppers or downers, the pleasure they give women is far greater. For men, even if the drug works and they reach their climax, their penis may not actually get hard, and at the ejaculation stage, the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous systems are closely linked, so although they get an erection and feel a certain amount of pleasure, they cannot ejaculate. That's why Yakuza never jab meth into themselves, but only inject it into women, because it would ruin them. For women, in terms of reaching orgasm multiple times, any drug gives them great pleasure, but that's not the case for men. What everyone misunderstands is that meth and cocaine don't allow men to enjoy good sex, but they're good for masturbation. The only drug that's good for mutual sex is marijuana; other drugs aren't good for sex, so you just turn to masturbation. For women, anything's OK. Many people believe drugs and art, especially music and painting, can be used for creative activities, including entering a fictional world of imagination, and can lead to wonderful expressions. It has long been said drugs and rock are inseparable, and it's true if you take drugs and watch a movie or listen to music, you can enjoy it much more than if you are not on drugs. It's certainly effective for creating emotional and sensory works, but it's not suitable for intellectual work such as writing. In many cases, logical work when you are high and exhausted will become incoherent unless you have a lot of power and talent. It's true Freud was able to grasp the clues regarding the problem of the 'subconscious and unconscious' while addicted to cocaine, and Sagan and Sartre needed cocaine to create their own logic, but that's the work of a genius, and I don't think drugs are generally suitable for things that require logic, such as writing in a crazy, drug-induced state."

"Finally, this may be a silly question, but if your child (who doesn't exist) or the son of a close friend were addicted to drugs, how would you respond?"

"I'll make them quit. If they get hooked on this sort of stuff when they're young, they'll have to throw their life away. How do I make them quit? I'll have to persuade them, convince them, and move them or do something to completely change their environment. No matter how much they try to crack down on stimulants, the fact there are legal drugs that have the same effects is also a problem. If you cannot get them out of that environment, then that's the only way to help someone who's completely hooked......"

The interview took over two hours.

A lot was said about the number of pages required for manuscripts and dangerous legal issues, but there were also many preambles that made it seem even 'BURST' wouldn't be able to write something like that. Just knowing that this genius editor, Aoyama Masaaki, was convinced "this can't be the end!", and that he would surely go on to publish an innovative magazine or book in the near future made me feel refreshed for some reason, and gave me hope for what Aoyama will do in the future.

I would like to leave it up to the fans of this page to decide how readers view the genius Aoyama Masaaki, who is loved by everyone. Outside, the rain has abated and light was streaming into the conference room.

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I Committed Suicide (Amazon) (2004/11/6)

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By Yoshinaga Yoshiaki (吉永嘉明)


At Aoyama-san's funeral, I saw his cold, dead body in the coffin. His face was twisted in anguish, like something out of a horror movie, and he looked extremely distressed. The colour of his face was a dark green, giving the impression of an unhealthy intake of too many chemicals. Aoyama-san's face when he died was an expression twisted with fear like Munch's 'The Scream'. He was a man who was extremely careful about his health. Even when drinking canned Japanese tea, he would go to the trouble of transferring the contents to another container, because 'if it is exposed to air for a length of time, the can will oxidise and become toxic to the body'. So why in the world could he have taken so many chemicals and ruined himself? This is nothing more than a guess, but judging from his personality, and the expression on his death mask, that I've seen over the years, I believe Aoyama-san was probably afraid of dying after all. I asked Aoyama-san's two ex-wives to confirm my speculation about the reason for his suicide. To summarise, Aoyama-san, the 'worry factory', was burdened with various worries, and on top of that, the rebound from heroin and stimulants, and the debt burden from buying drugs piled up, and he died when he could no longer bear it. That's what I believe.

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Ignoring the whole modern culture war aspect, I've read before that "leftism died in the bubble era, when everybody got rich". Otaku culture became mostly detached from politics from that point on, fully embracing fantasy escapism and hobbyist consumerism instead. Originally, otaku were in conflict with right-wing conservatives over censorship and freedom of art and speech. Later on, new-wave feminists influenced by the Western school of thought and representatives of international NGOs were added to the list. We can draw comparisons to the US. After the Columbine shooting, many politicians and media figures blamed video games like Doom and artists like Marilyn Manson. A decade earlier, conservatives were panicking about board games and heavy metal turning ordinary kids into devil-worshipping killer satanists. The "otaku bashing" sentiment following Miyazaki (the killer) was similar to that, which lead to the leading figures of the old days, like Kawamoto, turning to politics again. Though not an animated work, one movie that shows the clear influence of the Japanese New Left on otaku culture is Sukeban Deka 2, the climax is basically a reenactment of the student protests.

When the 1999 bill was originally introduced (and multiple attempts were made upon revision), it was supposed to include 2D and CG in it. It was only dropped due to protests from the manga, anime & game industries. People used to joke well, doesn't it mean you'd also have to ban Doraemon?, but nowadays, old episodes of Doraemon that include shots of Shizuka bathing are actually censored or cut from broadcast. A lot of popular manga were also pulled from stores in this period due to uncertainty and self-censorship.

Some works banned in the wake of the harmful comics controversy (有害コミック論争) still haven't been re-released. Horror was also hugely affected. National broadcasters pulled all horror films from their schedule. The Guinea pig series hasn't been published in Japan since the VHS days.

And old magazines in general are in a difficult position. Not just subcultural zines and lolicon publications, even weekly magazines and newspapers for the general public had those gravure photos. This means that a lot of culture and information from the era is almost irrevocably lost. Not sure about the National Diet, but it's possible they had to be destroyed. "I'm old enough to remember when bookstores had loli" is an 80s mark of age. Gravure is a culture unique to Japan, the closest Western equivalents may be pin-up or modeling, but gravure idols are more full-fledged entertainers who also sing, act, or appear in variety shows.

It's hard for us who grew up with the internet to imagine that uncensored porn or nudes would ever be rare, but people back then really didn't have too many options. Porn in video rental shops and bookstores was all blacked out or pixelated to hell. You could order uncensored porn from sketchy mail-order services, but it was a matter of luck & they'd often scam you. Yakuza-linked shops also sold it, but you'd have to think twice about buying anything from there. But uncensored photobooks & nudist videos of young girls were widely and easily available. The majority of the buyers were not pedophilic, but simply curious about female anatomy. Any kind of uncensored nudity back then would've been exciting and novel. People even fapped to medical books. They almost disappeared naturally after the ban on hair nudity was lifted.

Nude scenes of minor actresses (not necessarily children) were also common even on mainstream TV at the time and didn't carry anywhere near the same weight or controversy as today. Dramas and theatrical films that had them don't get rebroadcast or put onto DVD. Characters bathing or showering wouldn't really be considered sexual. Bare breasts were fine. Kono Ko Dare no Ko (SFW link), one of the top-rated and most acclaimed dramas of the 80s that aired at prime time on Fuji TV, is an example.

Citing another example, Rie Miyazawa, one of the most popular and recognized Japanese actresses, released a photobook in 91 that included a single image of her being nude without visible genitals, but with pubic hair shown. People lined up at bookstores. Millions bought it. It's considered the most popular photobook in Japanese history. It was so popular there was even a discussion in the Japanese parliament over whether or not it'd fall under child pornography laws. Unfortunately, Miyazawa was 18 when it was released, but she was photographed at 17 years and 10 months old. So the scope of the ban affected many things people wouldn't even think of, explaining why a lot of the Japanese public held critical views towards prohibiting simple possession.

Regarding so-called "Lolita videos" that were made in Japan during the early VHS period, they're now prohibited to look at, so getting reliable info is hard and honestly too risky. The Japanese Wiki claims that most titles banned in 1999 were not actually pornographic, but indeed gravure materials. Unlike some Western countries, the production and distribution of hardcore materials featuring minors (so-called "dark lolicon") was never legal in Japan. Prior to 1999, such depictions were prosecuted under the Child Welfare Law (prison) and Article 175 of the Japanese penal code (fines or prison for distributors or sellers). The widely repeated claim that "child pornography was legal in Japan until recently" or "pre-1999" should thus be considered a popular myth, or misconstruction at best. It'd be more accurate to assess that simple nudity and suggestive non-nudity (this term is really open to interpretation) began to be considered pornographic. The black market was always a different issue altogether.

Quoting Wiki:
«It's a generic term that has nothing to do with whether or not it is against the law, regardless of the time period, country, or region. Although nude works are designated as adult-oriented, they are image videos and Lolita videos are not the same as adult videos. In addition, it does not mean that image videos of young girls are immediately sexual or sexually explicit. In the summer of 1988, the Japan Video Ethics Association announced that Lolita works would be excluded from its review process, resulting in a sharp decrease in the number of works. Depictions of girls' genitals completely disappeared from the commercial video industry.»

Photobooks and videos featuring girls under 18 still came out, but with the same censorship as adult videos; no genitals allowed. To avoid censorship altogether, commercial producers switched to a non-nude route (so-called "junior idols"). Junior idol titles that were deemed too racy even without nudity were also persecuted, and with the revision of the law in 2014, banned.

The switch from 3D to 2D also seems to have happened early on. Wiki has an incomplete list of titles released in the 80s, all but one of them actually being animated works. Some Lolita videos were even dramas rather than image or adult videos. The aforementioned Aoyama (who absolutely needs to be more studied in English, his writings are insane) appeared as an actor in one, non-explicit title, playing the role of a college student named TSUTOMU who falls in love with a pubescent girl (SFW IMDb link) and has to hide from the girl's pissed mother. The director was a female mangaka surnamed Maenaka, who also wrote Hiromi's trip to paradise and Hill of Light (Shueisha Publishing, none of her manga are online). Referenced in Yasushi Takatsuki - Lolicon: Japanese Girl Lovers And Their World (ISBN 978-4-86238-151-4).

Back when he was writing for a commercial VHS collector magazine, the readers sent back letters like "please do something about Aoyama's schizophrenia!". He'd write about porn in general magazines, but when writing for porn magazines, he'd talk about B movies, cults, drugs, spirituality and just the weirdest shit. He wrote articles on how to put together bombs and was arrested over weed. His most famous magazine was Dangerous No. 1. It was banned as a "harmful book", and received a lot of attention when it turned out the killer Shinichiro Azuma was among its readers. There was another incident involving bomb threats. There's a single English mention of Aoyama here. He was considered Japan's leading drug expert in the 90s and was even interviewed for TV. He turned from a countercultural icon to a hated public figure, but the main reason for his suicide was likely the heroin addiction he developed from his trips to Thailand.
Still don't know why Dannyphantom deleted his post, but he put a lot of effort into it, so it ought to be preserved. His opinions and observations are his own, though I can tell, unlike most clueless westerners with their head canons, he actually read and relayed some of the opinions of Japanese users, so I would've liked to talk to him. Fortunately, I have Retroanimechris (Chris) to talk to now; he's very knowledgeable and interesting, and the next translation will be a rant from a doujin Chris scanned and uploaded this year. Chris says he's going to read this thread, so crossing my fingers I didn't make any major mistakes......

French Article on Demon Style Subculture (NSFW):


Click a blue circle on the calendar to view an archived version of the webpage. I don't want to directly link to it since for some reason, Google Images associates links from this thread to images related to Varishangout, and I don't really like the idea of photos of people being stabbed. or dead babies with medical conditions between panes of glass, being intermixed with mostly anime and manga illustrations. I think the article is interesting, but don't look if you're squeamish. If you've read a fair number of Guro-manga, then the contents should be somewhat tame in comparison.

Dilettante Genet on Aoyama Masaaki (JP):


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Kera was studying Demon Style subculture, and when he was selling his first research doujin on the subject, Dilettante Genet came to his table to help him sell his books. While Patrick Galbraith has done a lot of work with his articles and books, I feel he omits a lot of important things intrinsically part of Otaku culture, and things related to Otaku culture, that are important to understand. And understanding Demon Style is incredibly important to understanding the anime and manga subcultures. In his video about Nagayama Kaoru's book, Patrick mentioned manga fans being 'edgy'. Well, 'How to Lolita' is an example of the kind of 'edgy' writing that existed in manga-related magazines and books. All of these people and things interact and influenced each other, trying to make it so the vast majority of Otaku are wholly good boys that have a 2D Complex is dishonest. As Takatori Ei said, you can split these people into Idealists, Hentai, and Executers. Executers are rare, but there's a whole bunch of Hentai......
 
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I read the french article and it explains the reason why demon style exists: real life is too boring, too clean. Therefore you need something more thrilling. This is what made the fortune of the nerd stuff: it was made from the ground up with the mentality of "it has to be better and more exciting than real life". If nerds were content with just working, making children and paying taxes, then they would not be nerds.

As for the lolicon publication that straight up advocates for crime, it is a good thing it got banned, as it was no longer fiction at that point. However it was allowed to be published BEFORE it was deemed too much, while the stuff of today is censored even BEFORE anybody can say anything. See the difference?
Besides, if something is too disgusting for the mainstream public, it will stay a niche and not sell as much. Look at Alicesoft: it stayed in business while it was appealing to the niche, then it got censored with dohna dohna and stopped making new vns for three years after their last work. Studio arms never compromised on quality nor on the content and made a lot of excellent anime, but got shut down as the inflation was too much to bear. They kept their values to the end and will be remembered for their great work.

Another interesting fact that emerged from the interview is that if the manga industry does not sell one million copies of one manga, they will balance with three manga and 300k each. This is what we are seeing today to the extreme: tons of shit entertainment made by cutting all the corners and appealing to the wider audience. Manga has gotten a ton of tourist money because the west made stuff is just too offensive to the five senses. while as much as manga has been declining, it still kept attractive females and has not gone out of its way to make characters ugly on purpose. Let's see how long that lasts.....
 
A lot of things happened, and this post has grown into a behemoth. Chris and tooecchi are way too interesting, I got sucked into the whirlpool of their doujinshi archiving activities. I still haven't spoken to the Randoseru half of tooecchi, but I've been chatting with the Moetan half nearly every other day.

As far as I know, the non-lurker users on this forum board have yet to do a single useful thing (thus far), neither have the users on an old school Otaku forum board a decade or two my senior been useful (Moetan says Randoseru believes old-school western country Otaku are promoting agendas and attempting to falsify the history of Japanese comics and anime.). However thanks to creating a thread about Ryo Shiroma in the latter community, someone by the name of Armenoid—who was close friends to Ryo Shiroma and Steve Pearl—contacted me, and I learned incredibly valuable information.

Ryo Shiroma came to the United States sometime between 1988 to 1989. Before Armenoid met Ryo Shiroma in 1993, Ryo Shiroma already established a reputation for himself as the manga guy on Usenet, teaching everyone about various Japanese manga terms, which included Yaoi and Loli. Armenoid agreed my theory that Ryo Shiroma might've popularised the concept of 'H' in the US sounds pretty believable; Ryo taught Armenoid Japanese and they would discuss the meaning of various terms Americans were just tossing around without really understanding them, and Ryo Shiroma was obsessed with classifying manga, obsessed with details about the publishers. Ryo was very specific about the different names for different kinds of manga, in particular manga porn. Hence why the information in the Usenet primers and glossaries are surprisingly accurate and close to the proper Japanese understanding of those words back then. Ryo Shiroma often frequented the Asahiya and Kinokuniya bookshops in New Jersey for his manga purchases, and Ryo Shiroma was a big part of the planning committee for Anime East 1994 and 1995 (AE; Anime East 1995 Information). According to Armenoid, Ryo Shiroma had a vision of creating an American equivalent to Comiket, and went as far as bringing the guy who ran Comiket (Yonezawa Yoshihiro?) to AE'95, making friends with the publishers, and so on. Ryo wanted the American fandom to look like the Japanese fandom.

While I couldn't find Yonezawa Yoshihiro—or anyone part of the Comiket Preparation Committee—among the guest list of AE'95, according to Steve Pearl in 1995, they had someone called Essei Ushijima from Comiket, who has written the first book on the history of Cosplay, published by Kubo Shoten (the same publisher as Lemon People). Again according to Steve Pearl, Ushijima-san is known for his participation as the COMIKET COSPLAY organizer where there are hundreds of participants acting out many anime, manga and video game characters, and Ushijima brought a variety of doujinshi with him for sale at the AE'95 Exhibit Hall.

Okada Toshio also attended the AE'95 event and bestowed Steve Pearl with the title of American Otaking.

Unfortunately, like how Steve Pearl passed away in 2007, Ryo Shiroma also passed away in 2008 or 2009. So, it's impossible for me to contact him and ask him about the reasoning behind his manga guide, and why he defined H as 'h: Hentai male, H/pedophilia' to which Steve Pearl simplified as 'H: hentai (porno)' in 1992 (so far, this is the earliest concrete evidence of the western slang term Hentai being treated as a genre; making Steve Pearl a candidate for being the original evil).

While it's unlikely I'll ever have concrete answers to my questions, I learned from Armenoid that another organiser of Anime East 1995, Chet Jasinski (Zenkaikon Profile), was Ryo Shiroma's roommate before 1993. Armenoid lost contact with Chet in 2013 and doesn't know how to contact him due to Chet going dark on social media in 2012. However, I managed to track down Chet Jasinski, and while he hasn't posted on his Twitter/X account (Link) in about a decade, he's still active on Facebook (Facebook Conversation).

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I do not have a Facebook account, nor do I have a desire to ever create one. Armenoid has been busy with overseas work and a death in his family, so I haven't managed to speak with him for over a month, and I tried contacting other old school Otaku, like William Chow, to solicit help, but these people have no desire to be helpful at all. Ideally, I would want someone with a Facebook account and enough charisma to contact Chet Jasinski and acquire his e-mail address, so I can talk to him about Ryo Shiroma, Steve Pearl, and Anime East.

Facebook Threads with Chet Jasinski Sightings:

It goes without saying that the most important figures in this research are already dead, and I don't know how close Chet Jasinski is to death's door, so time is of the essence. Chet Jasinski needs to be interviewed as soon as possible about this history.

Also, forgot to include this in the Hentai study thread, but this is Iain Sinclair's personal webpage in the 1990s (Link). Armenoid doesn't know if he met Iain Sinclair in person, since he's from Australia. I still need to figure out a way to determine whether he's alive or dead. He had a phone number on this webpage, so someone living in Australia should hopefully be able to use that to track him down.


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Today, we'll be reading many doujinshi articles Chris and tooecchi have kindly scanned for us. While tooecchi currently doesn't have a means to support them through donations, you can send a financial donation to Chris through Paypal:

Chris is actively communicating with many Japanese artists in an effort to digitally preserve their manuscripts and doujinshi. This takes a lot of time and money, so if you're too busy to learn how to do something physically useful like clean tooecchi's mountain of scanned books, you can send Chris a small donation instead.

Chris is friends with a Japanese native who is a huge fan of Azuma Hideo, and he conducted an interview with another Japanese friend M that's worth reading here:

Out of the things I read by Chris, I prefer his interviews and fascinating stories about how he acquired his doujinshi (all of his posts on Sad Panda have their own unique tale). I personally don't care for academic summaries or opinion pieces; I want to read the words of the people involved and what they thought in their own words. And Chris's conversation with M delves into fanzines and fandoms, and the correct definition of 'Gatekeeping'. I've seen western gaming and anime fans believe they could 'gatekeep' their hobby, but you need to actually possess something exclusive to be a gatekeeper.

Chris Doujinshi Haul Education and Presentation Video (L.L.Palace):


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Table Of Contents:

Miyazaki Bishoujo FC 'Hilda Land' (1982):

Lolicon and 2D-Con Are Different (Matsubara Akira)

Cybele Fanclub Humbert 'Pleasance III' (1981):
Literacy Course for Lolicon (Yamanaka Izumi)

Cybele Fanclub Humbert 'Pleasance VI' (1982):
Summary! Spring Comiket (Anonymous: A~E)
Kill-Time Diary (Shirasaka Kazumi)
Shirasaka Kazumi and Project A-Ko
Literacy Course for Lolicon Extra Edition (Yamanaka Izumi)

Cybele Fanclub Humbert 'Pleasance VII' (1982):
Thinking About the Cool Boom (Kurishima Shizuma)
What was the Boom? (Yamanaka Izumi)
What is Cybele Really? (Richard, Duke of Gloucester)
About Epical (Murai Shun)
Kansai Lolicon-zines (Kamiya Keiri)
Literacy Course Ⅰ (Yamanaka Izumi)
Shoujo Flow 5: Extra Edition (Wakao Kouji)

Mizumaze Book 'Lolicon-con' (1983):
Special: About Lolicon: Gender Equality Increases the Number of Lolicon!? (Oonishi Hideak)
Special: About Lolicon: I'm an ally of Lolicon! ... Just kidding. (Fujimoto Takahito)

Bonus:
Super Lolicon Cultures: Christianity VS Tale of Genji (Taruby)
Future Translation Spoiler


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Source:『HILDA LAND』 1982/1/15

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Lolicon and 2D-con Are Different!


By Matsubara Akira (松原あきら) (According to Chris)
※This artist now goes by the penname Matsura Bentou (松羅弁当) (Pixiv) (Twitter)

Due to personal trauma, he's unable to continue working as a mangaka on commercial manga, but you can purchase (and sample) digital versions of his manga here (Link). Matsubara Akira is going to be a name you should remember for the upcoming Comiket talk in Pleasance further in this post.



Well, anyone who buys a book like this would have to be Sick to some degree, and I don't intend to spread the word about Lolicon (that's been done plenty of times in both fanzines and prozines), but...... I have just one thing I want to say!

Lolicon and 2D Complex are different!

It may be too early to be jumping to conclusions, but magazines these days seem to be casually confusing Lolicon and 2D Complex (hereafter abbreviated as 2D-con).

Sure, they may both be the same in that they cannot have a normal marriage (excuse me!), but while their behaviour may be the same, they're not the same.

A Lolicon is someone who cannot see women of the same, or similar, age as a love interest, or who is disappointed by modern society, so they fall in love with innocent (though these days that's often not the case) or ignorant (or so they seem to believe) girls (in these cases, their love interest mainly tends to be elementary schoolers). In their case, the object of their love are real girls, but in the case of 2D-con, even though their origins are the same, the object of their love are fictional females (I won't write Shoujo; among 2D-con, there are Saylacon and Matildacon). There's a big difference between chasing real images and fictional images. You could say, "Well, they're both fictional images!" But......

There are also Anime Lolicon. This applies to Miyazaki Shoujo fans. (Basically, I'm also one of them.) These are people who can only love anime Shoujo, so these people exist like a companion to Lolicon and 2D-con. What appears as an anime genre of Lolicon special features in general publications seems to be this type.

In conclusion, true Lolicon aren't interested in anime-type females, and true 2D-con aren't interested in real Shoujo. That's why these two are different.

Currently, what's running in anime magazines are not Lolicon special features. These are Anime Lolicon special features. (I couldn't even say half of what I want to say. So even if someone insists Lolicon and 2D-con are the same, I have nothing to say. Ugh... *Sweat Drop*.)

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Matsura Bentou (Matsubara Akira) (2024 August):
"I drew a picture for the first time in a long while, and all the characters turned into Loli. Is this some kind of curse?"

The author of the above article is blank, and there were other writers who contributed, but Chris believes Matsubara Akira wrote it. I'm personally curious about the other half of what he wanted to say in regards to 2D-con and Lolicon, and an unknown party's assertion that (idol) photographs and illustrations are both fictional images.


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Source:シベールF・C『プレザンスⅢ』 1981/10/15(発行:ハンバート)

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Literacy Course for Lolicon
Only You Will Be OK

Instructor Yamanaka Izumi (山中泉)

Yamanaka Izumi's name is going to appear frequently in this post; he's the deputy editor-in-chief of Pleasance.



I'm afraid the editor-in-chief would kill me if I revealed too much about what goes on within the editorial department, but I'll say a few words for the sake of Humbert's development. The same goes for any editorial department, or any fanzine for that matter, but to put it simply, we don't have enough manuscripts. Everyone, please write more.

So, the editor-in-chief came up with a top-secret battle plan: a serial essay. And I was the one chosen for it. And since this serial is starting without any saved manuscripts, the possibility it'll have terrible writing is terribly, extremely, exceptionally, monumentally high.

Gentlemen! Before you complain, submit your manuscripts! (However, critical manuscripts are more than welcome.)


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With that being said, I present to you the first part of our series. Let's begin with a prologue.

In our inaugural issue, the president, Shirasaka (白坂), went ahead and said, "Lolicon is a secret we mustn't reveal to others", but I'll take a different stance.

For that reason, I'll be troubled if you immediately imagine sexual intercourse. There are many ways in which Lolicon behave, from playing with Youjo in the sand, to patting their heads, to chatting with middle schoolers. Of course, I'll acknowledge an approach to sex is one of them.

This series will be written as a reference for those who, like me, believe simply looking is boring, so that they don't make any mistakes in life. Of course, I intend to write so it'll be enjoyable for those who are simply satisfied with looking as well, but...

Now then, for those who know, you may know this, but I'm a second-year law student at a certain university. Naturally, one of my required subjects is criminal law. So, I've been struggling with this recently, but it's really difficult to be a Lolicon while studying law. You'll learn you can't do this, and you can't do that.

To that end, this project was brought to me, who was once on the verge of failing Lolicon.

I would like to explain, theoretically and with examples of previous failures, how Lolita Complex get caught up in criminal law, and (this will be the main topic) how to circumvent law to satisfy Lolita Complex.

I thought I would end this first instalment here, but since I haven't finished (Editor: hardly any of) the number of pages ordered by the editor-in-chief, I shall continue on to the first part.

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——Part One——


When a Lolicon puts their feelings into practice, the problem is that the other party is a Shoujo. No matter how much you try to contrive an answer, there is no way to improve (worsen?) this. If the other party is an adult woman, not a Shoujo, then you're no longer worthy of the name Lolicon.

I'm changing subjects, but I've been trying to avoid legal terms as much as possible up to this point, but I've given up and will start using them.

A crime is an act that meets three criteria: structural elements (構成要件), illegality (違法性), and liability (責任). To make these easily understandable, they're a type of bad act, whether it's bad when a normal person sees it, and whether you know what you're doing is bad.

In other words, if any of these are missing, it's not a crime. And usually, if the victim consents, the element of illegality vanishes.

Well, it's obvious if you think about it, it's no good if two parties are constantly being criticised for something they mutually consented upon that doesn't cause any trouble for anyone else.

But, there is a big but. This is not the case when the subject is Lolicon. In other words, no matter how much the Shoujo consents, it has no legal bearing. It's believed Shoujo do not have the ability to judge what is good and what is bad (please don't say things like, "My ●●-chan is smart and cute, she can tell the difference between good and bad." This is a general statement). In the end, any act that tries to satisfy a Lolita Complex is very strongly restricted.

I believe you now understand why it's a problem the other party is a Shoujo.


——Part Two——


Now then, considering today's situation, it's very difficult to practice Lolicon. Due to the development of toys for indoor play and the lack of playgrounds in some areas, Shoujo are becoming less visible.

Furthermore, there is the problem of social unrest these days. There's the rampant kidnappings for ransom, the molestation and then murder of Shoujo, and the rise of Shounen street thugs.

In this sort of social situation, the first problem when practicing Lolicon is getting close to Shoujo. When we discover a Bishoujo who is rarely outdoors, we tremble with joy, suppress our embarrassment, and try to talk to her and play in the sand with her, but think about what sort of words we'll be showered with.

They won't be words with a sweet sound like 'Lolicon'. You would be fortunate if you were called a 'Hentai'. If you're not careful, you might even be accused of being a 'kidnapper' or a 'Serial Shoujo Rape Fiend!'.

When that happens, do you have any words to defend yourself!? ... Frankly speaking, I don't have any. If they call you a Lolicon, or even a Hentai, all you can do is look down and nod your head. But what if you're called a kidnapper or a rape fiend? You don't have the luxury to make excuses. You have no choice but to run away. As a result, whatever the case, you'll never be able to make contact with that Shoujo ever again.

So, if you take the Shoujo you're playing with you, does that really make you a kidnapper? I'll leave the analysis of this as the theme for part three.

However, there are always people in this world who are lucky and good at getting along with girls, and there are those dating cute Shoujo. I'm not saying this is how it should be, but I have a friend who is like that.

(According to my friend) It's not like once you're able to date a cute Shoujo, there'll be no problems. Apparently, I've heard (on the grapevine) that girl's parents forced their way into my friend R's life (Editor: just like Lewis Carroll).

Putting aside the matter of R, if you're taking photographs, there's usually no problem. Just ramble on about how their* Ojou-san is cute and how you want to become a photographer, and you can get the consent of the parents (Editor: does that really work?). In this regard, you only have to rely on your eloquence and charisma.
※お宅 (Otaku; You)

However, that won't be the case if you're rubbing her head, and rubbing her ✕✕, while you're saying she's 'cute'. If you get found out, you won't get away with it. You'll have to tell the Bishoujo (or Biyoujo) to keep her mouth shut. As long as you don't get found out, it's the same as not doing it. That being said, the purpose of this essay is to explore how to avoid being found out, and how to remain calm even if you are found out, so I'll think about that for next time (believing this serial is far from over).

With that, this is the end of our first part.

(End)

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Source:シベールF・C『プレザンスⅥ』 1982/6/30(発行:ハンバート)

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Summary! Spring Comiket


We jokingly wrote 'it was well-received', but it was actually well-received, so we shall give it another go without getting discouraged.

However, I feel a letter may come next time about us growing stale. (Would someone go out of their way to send us one?)


Now then, here begins another talk between the same members, even though they're starting to get bored of this.


A: Let's begin with 'Humbert 1st' (ハンバート1st), which has finally been released, please give us your comments.

E: Could you say it was the worst book at the Spring Comiket?

C: I could say that.

E: It was certainly sloppy. The great difference between the talented and the unskilled, the numerous illustrations, and everything else was just so sloppy and horrible.

A: Though the numerous illustrations was because they insisted on doing an enquête.

B: Eh~!? Blackbert was an enquête book...? No wonder...

E: Whitebert was also sloppy and lacking in content. In any case, it felt like it was just created to be created.

D: I don't think it's worth criticising that much. There were some talented people as well... But splitting white and black into 2 books simply made it more troublesome for both the creators and buyers.

B: Let's stop. It was a hopeless book. Anyways, since that realisation will reflect in the next step... I'll simply look forward to the next one, even though it'll be someone else's problem.

A: Well then, let's discuss the 10th issue of 'Lotali' (ロータリー)

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B: It feels like they made no progress at all. Despite the situation around it changing a little, you might say it's amazing the contents have remained the same.

E: Putting it like that makes me feel sorry for them. It's really slow, but they're steadily getting better, at least when it comes to the art.

D: Yeah, it's been getting thicker and thicker underneath our noses, making you feel the flow of time. However, the contents haven't changed at all from the past, which is mysterious.

C: Regardless, the fact it has continued for 10 issues is amazing. Don't you find it frightening there are 10 books just like this one?

E: If it keeps up this pace, it may become a great book in 5 years.

B: It's truly a living fossil.

A: Next up is 'Nuto-nuto' (ぬとぬと) from Hiroshima.

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D: It has a unique atmosphere.

B: Hmm, it's certainly unique. How do I put it? It's 'Orthodox Lolicon Manga'. As an example of its worn-out pattern, the art style is familiar. No matter how you think about it, you have to wonder why they're making something so unprogressive now.

A: Hm~mm, but that simpleness makes it better. The art—that's a direct copy of A**ma reminisce of the old Cybele—is also enjoyable.

C: Shibaiya Senada's (詩陪野瀬為駄) panel layouts were hard to read... but good.

E: Nishina Souichi (仁科蒼一) style. The hard SF story in particular was hard to understand, but interesting.

D: For me, the Limit-chan (リミット) picture book was great, even though it was a bit sloppy. I wonder if there'll be a 2nd issue.

A: What did you think of 'Carolita 5' (キャロリータ5) with its colour cover?

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E: I thought it was amazing they're steadily doing what they love. But no matter how you look at it, it's just a normal doujinshi.

B: I was hoping for a little more from Carolita. I thought it had good direction, but it seems the artists got bored of Lolicon before reaching their destination. Kayuramutami (かゆらむたみ) was the only one doing their best.

A: I like Carolita as a normal doujinshi. Though I wish they would stop with the ka~wa~ii stuff. It's like they're doing Lolicon as mostly a joke.

C: I see what you mean, but the ka~wa~ii stuff was good. But Yakushimaru's (薬師丸) part was a bit... The other parts are starting to become easier to read.

E: They're certainly readable, but it's a shame it's all swept away in the atmosphere.

D: In any case, it's a mysterious book that has one good point in every single issue.

A: 'Bishoujo Copybook' (美少女草紙) is out again, we've always said it's just a cover, but what about the 3rd issue?

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C: It's gotten better, but it still doesn't look as good as its nice binding.

B: It looks like it's finding its direction, but most of its manuscripts were hopeless.

E: They should either change the content to match the cover, or change the cover to match the content.

D: For example, how about sailor blouse only, or kimono only?

A: Next, what do you think of 'Powered Venus' (パワードヴィーナス)?

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D: This is tough. What should I say about this sort of adult porno-zine...? But it's definitely less impactful than before.

C: The art is pretty, but I don't like the voluptuous women at all.

E: I like how the women are drawn, but they don't fit the atmosphere. Perhaps they should've run towards something more radical. I don't recommend Morolita (モロリータ), but the power-down was boring.

B: In any case, they're in a unique position in this field, so go ahead and don't pay attention to Lolicon and do your best. But if they're satisfied with being at this level, then they'll just be an anime parody-zine. I want them to be more radical.

D: Well, I'm not interested, so it doesn't matter to me.

A: Similarly, what about 'Frustration' (フラストレーション)?

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D: I don't really get it, but it feels like they're moving in a direction that prioritises the reader. Maybe they're running out of manuscripts.

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▲赤橙黄緑青藍 (Alt Penname for Akaishizawa Takashi) (Remember this name!)
Aka (赤) 1982/4/20 "Mania is frightening."


B: I don't understand the purpose of this book. They say they're creating a book with reader submissions, but do they really have a lot of spare letters?

E: I don't really get it.

B: However, they should clarify the difference between these and the zine itself. In the end, it's obviously becoming the same thing with no major difference.

C: Either way, I'm not interested.

A: I guess that's fine. Next is 'Bessatsu Equation' (別冊方程式).

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E: Well, it's fine they're doing what they want. But just because it's a 'bessatsu' doesn't mean they can cut corners.

C: In any case, it's meaningless stories and dirty pictures. I don't have any more to say.

D: I disagree. It's great because it's drawn by Matsubara Akira (松原あきら) and Sokabe Takashi (曽我部孝).

B: Same as right. It's Matsubara Akira.

D: But I wish Matsubara Akira wouldn't be so Fukuyama-chic (福山) and put in more effort.

A: Similarly, 'EP'.

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Moetan says he has never seen 'EP' before, but it has illustrations by Kazuna Kei and Sokabe Takashi (the latter is a famous animator).

E: The big nombre bothers me. If you don't mind that, it's a small, but decent, book.

C: The illustrations are passable. Manga is about the story, not the art.

D: The illustrations by Kazuna Kei (計奈恵) and Sokabe (曽我部) are beautiful. It's half illustration, half manga, and half text, but the text is so small I don't feel like reading it at all.

B: The overall lack of effort's obvious. It's a waste, considering they had such good artists.

E: Well, isn't that OK? This is plenty, yes?

A: Haah, well then, 'Rori' (璐麗)

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E: It's a horrible book. The beginning and the ending, the printing is also bad.

D: It's not a Lolicon-zine. Sure, it has Chibikura, and the beginning is slightly good. But the editor's attitude, or awareness, towards Lolicon is too naïve.

B: But I believe it would be a better book if they put more effort into the drawings. Then this point...

C: Well, I don't know how to say this, but the earth's resources are limited. You get what I mean?

A: Harsh. Next is the rapidly growing manga research Gather's (ギャザ一) 'I Want to Protect You' (守ってあげたい).

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Bureikou is a horrible scalper who needs his kneecaps bureikou'ed.
Aran Rei is the original artist of Iczer-One, which became a popular anime among old school Otaku in their RightStuf catalogues.


B: Its editorial policy is consistent with non-Lolicon ero-guro, and it's a collection of story manga, so I believe it can be evaluated as a book.

C: Even though it's 100 pages, the level is amazing. Aran Rei (阿乱レイ) and Kzzu are so good.

D: Yeah, Aran Rei and Kzzu are amazing. Aran Rei is as guro as ever. In any case, it's a splendid mecha book with an overall SF feel.

E: The mecha were certainly splendid. If only it wasn't so guro...

B: Hm~mm, I wish they would do something about Aran Rei's cruel tastes and autistic characters. To be honest, it's boring. For me. On the other hand, Ikeda Kazunari (池田一成) (Kzzu) is suddenly getting excessively good. His characters are a bit off, but his story, composition, art, and mecha agree with me. In any case, the lines are nice. I want to see the next issue soon.

A: That much... Well, that's fine. Next up is the guro 'Grand Eros' (グランドエロス).

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C: The more impressive the cover, the more the poor quality contents stick out like a sore thumb. Like Bishoujo Copybook.

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▲ Silent Moon

D: To be frank, the art is unskilled. The guro is shitty-realism, which requires an excessive drawing power more than necessary and an outstanding sense of abnormality, but all that is missing.

E: It's saying something different inside, but there's not much content.

B: In short, it's a pitiful book confusing guro with ero. This Comiket seems to have a lot of books like this. However, the last one, 'Shanghai Sakura' (上海桜), is an exception.

C: Yeah. Unlike 'Bishoujo Copybook', it actually had a little bit of substance.

A: Well then, next is 'Fantasy Apple' (ファンタジアップル).

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Takahashi Chiko has released 26 digital versions of his 'Mieko Metamorphosis' Doujins on E-Book Japan (Shop).
I'm planning to translate an interview with Takahashi Chiko in the future; he's very eccentric about republishing old books, including his own.


B: It's a decent book. Though it's not really clear what it was aiming for, it has some solid manga, and I think that's enough.

D: Yeah, it seems to be focused around Takahashi Chiko (たかはしちこ), so I have high hopes for it, I like how it places emphasis on creating a satisfying manga to read. But to be honest, it fizzled out towards the end.

E: By the way, what do you think of the Charlotte illustrations? I liked them, they were very cute.

C: It's strongly influenced by Honey Lane (ハニー・レーヌ).

A: Well then, here's the long-awaited 'Alice' (アリス) vol.2.

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E: As always, I'm impressed by their ability to create something to a certain extent. That said, it feels like they're stuck at a 'well done' stage, and are unable to take another step forward.

D: Perhaps they're too good at editing. Do you suppose it's because they put everything in their proper place instead of arranging them in the order they're received, like how our editor-in-chief does it?

C: Well, the story isn't at a high level. It's not a manga, to be honest, this can be said about other Lolicon-zines, but when you consider the problem of what's left when you subtract the Cybele scenes, that is, its completeness as a manga, you feel completely dissatisfied.

B: Hmm, you're right. In Alice's case, the characters in particular lack appeal. The characters aren't fully utilised in their stories. Cute girls appear, but they don't explore why they're cute or how they're cute, so they wind up being flat characters with only a face.

A: When it reaches that point, it no longer captures the concept of Lolicon manga.

C: I also had high expectations for Hirukogami Ken's (蛭児神建) new series. It's a shame there aren't more pages!

A: Well then, here's the photobook 'Pokiehl' (ポキール) that was finally released.

B: The fact it was released is what's important. I thought it would be impossible, even considering the printing costs and other expenses.

C: The models are cute. Where did they come from? The photos are so good.

D: I kinda agree. I'm not criticising them because they were beaten to the punch, but rather than the photos themselves, I wish they put more thought into the layout. It's not good to line up a bunch of photos and call it a day.

E: That's right. As for the photos themselves, they're basically shot with a long lens, but their sense is next to zero. Even an amateur wouldn't use a composition like this. I wish they had put more effort into it. I noticed a few that were out of focus.

B: They're all the same old pattern. They're all looking towards the camera and smiling in the middle of the photo, they're more like commemorative photos... Well, anyways, I'm looking forward to the next issue.

A: Next is the mysterious 'Frederica'.

C: Good work.

D: A collection of short stories without ero is new. Their attitude of limiting Lolicon to a narrow meaning is clear and leaves a good impression. Do you suppose it'll be more diverse if they included critiques in the future?

E: Well, I think they should keep moving forward without resorting to weird critiques. However, the content is a bit lacking and the Cuts are not satisfying.

A: It also feels like they don't have enough consideration for the readers.

B: Regardless, their determination to sell literary-zines at Comiket is impressive. I hope they continue doing so if it's possible.

C: Either way, they need to improve the content. Especially if they're a literary-zine.

A: Well then, here's the 'Hirukogami Ken Selection' (蛭児神建巽集) .

C: Even though they're reprints, this guy is incredible.

D: I have nothing else to say. People should read it.

B: Just one word: great.

E: However, if they're going to reprint it, I would've liked to see some improvements. I was hoping to see at least one new work to be included as reader service.

D: And as always, I wish the writing was a little easier to read.

A: What do you think of Suzuki Shinichi's (鈴木信一) personal-zine 'Che lette'?

C: I respect the idea of personal-zines, but the art and story have no impact. You skim through and forget about it.

D: Perhaps it's because the creator is an animator, but the backgrounds... and the cover is too sloppy. I wish it had been published in a more proper format.

E: Well, I was surprised his personal collection hadn't been published till now, but now that it's been released, it feels strange they did it. To be honest, I don't like the art or story.

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▲SABI

B: Also, I don't like the fact they're selling the drawings they made for Cybele.

A: Going that far... But I feel they're deluding themselves with the illustrations. The art isn't particularly impressive, and they're not particularly skilled. I wanted more manga. Well, how about we move onto the next one, another personal-zine, 'Boots' (ブーツ)?

D: It's hard to criticise personal-zines. Because it's obviously a matter of taste. But I guess that's what's good about personal-zines.

B: As a manga story, it's decent, and the level of the art is passable, and as a personal-zine, the illustrations and manga are well-balanced. So, do what you like!

A: It feels like it was put together at a low level. Next is the 'Bishojo Times'.

D: Is the 3rd issue a pitiful failure?

B: They did great. They deliberately hid the book cover and were like 'if you wanna see it, buy it!' That level of commercialism brings tears to my eyes.

E: It's impressive how far they've completely changed their sitting posture. Their enquête was just a compilation without any analysis, and to make a book out of just that is...

A: Epical (エピカル) falls and One Pass (ワンパス) remains, and Bishoujo Itself (美少女自身) falls, and Times comes out.

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One Pass is part of Epical (Remember this Name!), I'm familiar with Bishoujo Itself, but have no idea what 'Bishojo Times' could be.

C: Even so, the art is cute.

B: Even if you say that, there's nothing to read... It's obvious from its readership, Perrine (ペリーヌ) doesn't appear in the enquête. At all.

A: Next is Matsubara Akira's (松原あきら) 'Hilda Land' (ヒルグランド). While we're at it, let's do 'Cassy Land' (キャシーランド) as well.

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I told you to remember Matsubara Akira's name for a reason!

D: As for 'Hilda Land', the number of Cuts is Hilda 52%, Clarisse 21%, Cassy 17%, and others 10%, so I don't know which parts are Hilda, but I'm happy the Cuts are good.

B: Well, the contents are sloppy, but it's fine; it's Matsubara Akira.

E: Is Matsubara Akira that great? Well, he's not untalented, but he's sloppy in general.

B: No, the problem with Hilda Land is the poor choice of writers. I wish it was created by real Hilda maniacs only.

D: In that respect Cassy Land has a lot of content. The quality of the Cuts has gone down, but Matsubara Akira's Cuts are still cute.

B: Cassy Land is one of the biggest gains from Comiket right now. The content is still a bit sloppy in places, but the Cuts more than make up for it.

D: You cannot talk about Cassy without this book.

B: I really like how this book sticks straight to Cassy. Lolicon-zines aren't all about showing nudity.

C: Really? I feel character books in general have reached their limit. The art isn't even that good, it's just a book between friends messing around.

B&D: Bu—bu—bu—.

A: From a similar lineup, here's 'Kururisu' (くるりす) vol.2.

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B: Matsubara Akira. I feel like there's something else, but that was all I noticed. Lana won~♥

D: The cover is good. Because it's Sokabe Takashi (曽我部孝). The content is Clarisse manga, but the best one is Matsubara Akira's 'Count Legend' (伯爵伝). There were some other good ones, but how long will it continue with Clarisse as the main focus?

E: Yeah, isn't it about to reach its limit?

B: I can see it turning into another 'Kitchen Fighter' (キッチンファイター).
※Kitchen Fighter: Based on a character from 'Space Runaway Ideon', whose name is officially romanised as Kitch Kitchen (キッチ・キッチン), but localised as Kitty Kitten (Chris bought couples of this doujinshi).

C: Anyways, it's just a character book with no Lolita or anything, and the manga with shoddy art and no story is enough to make me cry.

A: The terrifying 'Light and Shadow' (光と影).

E: It has less common sense than Morolita (モロリータ).

D: What's so interesting about hurting Clarisse?

C: The illustrations are bad... I lost to Clarisse's crotch on page 15. Also, the text is painful to read. I'm tired and bored.

B: If you want to include those kinds of illustrations, don't make excuses and just create a book with them. Then we'll also deal with you in a more underhanded way.

E: That's right. If you want to make it harsh with incomprehensible text on illustrations with white tones, then make it like Morolita. They're planning to release a 3rd issue with this. Haven't you done enough?

D: Anyways, 600 yen is too expensive.

A: Next is the familiar 'Clarisse Newspaper' (クラリス新聞).

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An eccentric Claricon bought this newspaper and attempted to restore it (Link)!

E: It really is a 'newspaper'. Even if there's no material, they simply release it. Just fill in the blanks and they're done.

C: Well, 'Kodomo Boutique' (こどもブティック) was good. Only that.

D: A newspaper is a newspaper after all. Only a red headline on the front page, an illustration on the last page, and name value. As expected, Clarisse material is a limited resource. What will you do, Clara-con? It's going to be hard to break through this with a tone knife.

B: It's futile, there's nothing they can do at this point. Because to them, Clarisse is nothing more than material, so all they have is Clarisse from Cagliostro. It's simply the writers indulging in their self-intoxication. Let them rot away in that castle with those tones.

A: Now then, let's see, 'Morolita' (モロリータ).
This doujinshi supposedly was uncensored (Urusei Yatsura fanzine), which is likely the reason it has no online presence.

Everyone: .........

A: Let's move on to the next one. 'Quarterly Angie' (季刊アンジェ).

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C: Is the printing bad or are the lines dirty? Well, it's probably the former. I only see 'Super Angie' (スーパーアンジェ).

D: Ahh, that. Well, they did good. The information was the most interesting.

A: It was impressive. Almost like Hobby Japan.

D: Nevertheless, it's amazing they filled up 18 pages.

E: Because they filled 2 pages with CM (commercials).

A: B-san is quiet.

E: He's been keeping quiet about Angie ever since he found out Kanada* did the Angie OP.
※Kanada Yoshinori (金田伊功)

A: Well then, next is 'Kitchen Fighter' (キッチンファイター) which they say has been reprinted a lot.

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B: I don't mind the rough art. Partly because of the printing... And it has a sense of unity as a book. However, it's just an anime parody-zine. Despite that, I want to keep supporting it more than something like Clarisse Newspaper.

E: It may be better than Clarisse Newspaper, but it's still horrible. The drawings are dirty and the printing is bad. It's not readable at all.

C: It hurts my eyes.

D: All I can say is it's sloppy. Well, the only good one was Yoko.

A: How about the same as always Akaneko (アケ猫) 'Pre2'?

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C: There's nothing to praise about the art or story. I wonder if they could do something about that?

E: Yeah. The story isn't particularly good and it's not on the right track. It's just art style and power.

B: Nothing of the sort. Basically, they have the attitude of trying to make a manga out of anything and everything.

D: Exactly. There's a lot of things going on around the world that make Clarisse like Cybele, but Akasaka Enshin (明坂演真) is based in manga, so it's worth reading.

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▲Tarako (タラコ)

A: However, it's a bit of a problem it's already getting stale soon after the 2nd issue.

B: That's not the problem. The will and power to turn it into a manga, this is everything. This is the decisive difference between Pre and the average Lolicon-zine that hasn't made any progress since Cybele.

D: And above all, the art style suits my tastes. Plus, I'm looking forward to Lum-chan's presence in the 3rd issue.

A: From Waseda, 'Japanese Setting Materials' (ジャパニーズ設定資料).

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This Doujinshi is related to Anicom, which is historically significant (and also expensive).
The Lolicon Severity Test Image earlier in this thread was from the Anicom group.


E: It's great! The point of view is interesting. But they're not characters I like that much, and above all, I don't feel the sense in Dai Nippon (ダイニッポン).

C: But it's not that either, the girls are cute. It would be better if they deleted the guys.

D: Also, I personally like Dai Nippon better than Xabungle (ザブングル); the characters are generally good.

B: Also, the staff list is interesting, but there's no end to the complaints. Why didn't they include Matsuo Yoshiko-sama (松尾佳子)? What about Katano Tomoko-san (森友典子)!? What about Agawa Takao-san (小川隆生)!? What about Iguchi Chuuichi-san (井口忠一)!?

D: That's right, I'm glad they included Tsuru Hiromi-sama (鶴ひろみ), but Shimazu-san (島津) isn't there, either, and what's more, Takashima Gara-san (高島雅羅) isn't there! This is a complete miss. Also, not including Endou Asami-san (遠藤麻未) as an animation director is a big blunder. What a bother.

B: In any case, I found it very interesting at first, but it gradually grew dark. I guess the ugliness and darkness of anime maniacs seeps to the fore.

A: This is my opinion, but your interactions are darker than this book... But that's fine. Next is the earth-shattering!! 'The Sundy-belle' with its 'Bessatsu Item Encyclopedia' (別冊アイテム超百科). Last time, we criticised its fold-out illustrations, but this time, each one is a hand-drawn colour illustration.

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Yes, these guys kept calling 'The Sandy Belle', 'the sundy-belle'.

E: Amazing. Impressive. Wonderful. In short, power.

D: It's rare to see a doujinshi with this much energy, money, and guts. Not only the fold-outs, but also the detailed changes in Sundy-belle's face are impressive. I'd love to see a co-edited and supervised Sundy-belle next time.

B: Above all, it's a victory of service spirit to the reader. There's a plethora of Lolicon-zines recently that pander to readers with love, but if you look at this book, you can see that that's not enough. It's probably run by a perfectionistic Oni, but both this zine and the super encyclopedia have a lot of energy.

D: Yeah, the super encyclopedia is also the best. After seeing this huge mountain of items, I was speechless when I looked at the last page that said, "The second volume will be published for the summer Comiket."

C: There's no longer any words to describe it. I can only bow down and utter, "Heeeh~."

E: In any case, it's an example of how people with guts should publish doujinshi.

A: Well then, here's the certain kill 'Lunlun Comic' (ルンルンコミック).

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D: The fact they're planning to create a comic version of all the Lunlun episodes shows they have guts, and it's a long-term project.

A: At the Comiket venue, I asked 'when will you release the final chapter?' and they answered 'sometime in the 90s', so I replied 'please do your best', but...
※Lunlun Comic (Link) (Yes, this doujin series lasted for over 20 years, easily top 10 among insane doujinshi projects!)

B: In any case, they have the power to turn anything and everything into manga. On top of that, they're not just turning the TV story into a manga, but rather making it into something you want to read by coming up with their own episodes and ideas.

E: But in hindsight, it would've been better if they hadn't made it into a weird parody-like work. I'd rather have an anime comic like the one in the 1st issue.

B: Perhaps. It's very important to put effort into making something interesting while also keeping the readers in mind. Depending on their effort, it's entirely possible for them to surpass the original work, and in fact, I found the manga from issue 2 more interesting than the original anime.

D: Yeah, the original is a meaningless Toei anime. One example is Lunlun Lunatic's 'Lunlun Earth Destruction Arc' (ルンルン地球滅亡編). It's interesting as a manga (?), and above all, the idea of a Kanada-style Lunlun with the drawing skills to depict it. I can only say it's truly amazing. It's the biggest harvest at Comiket right now.

B: Anyways, speaking of Sundy-belle and Lunlun, the fans of this line are amazing for some reason. The self-proclaimed fans of Clarisse and Lana are doing the best they can limited by their idiocy, but LunComic is competing with manga! And Sundy-belle is full of service! They're great.

A: What about you, C-san?

C: Pass.

E: Maybe the reason minor Loli character books are great is because illustrations alone don't hold up like the major Loli characters, so they have to make it worth reading with a plan to make up for their lack of attractiveness.

A: Indeed. Shall we summarise everything here?

D: All I'm left with is the impression most were sloppy and lacking in any real spirit.

E: In any case, they were lacklustre. The majors fell across the board, and I thought the smaller ones would grow, but most of them, including ours, are in a completely miserable state...

D: There's also nothing fresh, and original ideas, like Underground Workshop (地下工房), are gone.

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▲Underground Workshop (地下工房)

A: If our Humbert sells that well, we should try others to see what's inside.

B: More people should look at the contents before buying.

C: Lolicon books are not books that show anime characters naked, and they're not just ero-guro books. Isn't there a great Lolicon who'll put the idea of loving Bishoujo at the forefront?

A: That'll be an unfulfilled dream.

D: The fact two text-based zines have appeared in this situation is due to the influence of Pleasance... or rather, it should be said Lolicon has become more diverse.

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▲C.S.

E: It seems there are more books with text recently, but the handwriting is messy, including ours, and there are so many typos and mistakes I don't feel like reading them at all.

A: In the end, it just means they're self-centred and don't care about the readers. It's doujinshi, so it cannot be helped.

B: Rather than the increase in books with text, I'm more concerned about the increase in ero-guro books. There's really nothing you can do about those. All we can do is let them do as they please. On the other hand, anime-related ones were strong.

D: As I said last time, I'm really happy it's expanding from being all about Clarisse to Lunlun and Sundy-belle.

B: Anyways, I for one hope no more tragic books about Clarisse and Lana will be published.

E: Like I said earlier about LunComic, the material for Lunlun and Sundy-belle isn't major, so there's something extraordinary about their planning and execution.

D: Anyways, it was a Comiket where I could only feel a sense of stagnation overall.

B: Do you suppose the Lolicon period is over?

A: Thank you very much. To leave it at an even more pessimistic mood, I shall end our talk with this. Well then, farewell from the Shirasaka War Game Centre (白坂ウォーゲームセンター).


In any case, this Comiket was like the giant that Egawa (江川) threw, so there's nothing we could do about it. The promising rookies were also a hit... So let's look forward to the summer Comiket.


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Kill-Time Diary


By Shirasaka Kazumi (白根一美) (Editor-in-Chief of Pleasance; Remember his Name!)


This series is a random collection of things I've witnessed, heard, and thought about Shoujo. If you think it's not interesting, then please send me your manuscript.


○ Month × Day

Today, I saw the deputy editor-in-chief* and a Shoujo holding a kitten. It was the first time I'd actually seen something like this. The girl, a 4th year elementary schooler (name tags sure are convenient, but I forgot this girl's name despite knowing her name), wasn't that cute. But the sight of her holding the kitten wrapped in a bath towel had an indescribably nice atmosphere.
※The deputy editor-in-chief is Yamanaka Izumi (山中泉).

If she'd worn a beautiful dress, she would've looked like a good pedigree, but that girl in her sleeveless one-piece looked like a mixed breed someone found somewhere.


◎ Month △ Day

It was around 1pm. On the train that commutes to my school at this lazy hour, I saw about eight private school kindergarten girls. There were two next to the door and six girls in the seat right next to it. There weren't any Bishoujo (Biyoujo?), but having a lot of so-so girls made the trip fun in its own way. That being said, I'm not saying quantity trumps quality. In any case.

They were wearing blue frill skirts, big white collared blouses, and white caps, and they were quietly playing in the car.

When we arrived at a certain station, the two girls near the door were led off by their mothers. Then one of the Youjo, who was sitting, went up to the door.

"Bye-bye, see you tomorrow!" She said, waving her hands cutely, and I mean cutely. I must emphasise the cuteness. At that moment, I thought to myself.

It's the age of kindergarteners from now on!

And.

There was a cuteness that has been lost. In this day and age when even elementary schoolers are turning into female delinquents, that kindergartener looked like an angel to me.

The angel got off two stops later with the other girls. I waved to the lovely angel from the train without even realising it.


× Month ● Day

Today, I want to approach this documentary style.

The setting is inside the subway, and the time is when I was ditching school again to return home.

Diagonally across from me, two girls are sitting with their mother in between. It looks like the older sister is sitting on one side, and the younger sister is sitting on the other. The younger sister was wearing an indigo blue dress (with white lace bunched up from her chest area), white socks, and yellow shoes, and the older sister was in the shadows and I couldn't see her very well, but she was wearing a dress that is a little lighter in colour than the younger sister, white socks, and black enameled shoes.

Oh, there's someone between them. I don't pay her any mind! Yes, yes. Yosh, this is good.

The younger sister has her bangs cut in a bowl cut, with her side hair pulled back and braided. It's hard to see the older sister, so I'll ignore her and move on to the younger sister. She was about 5 or 6 years old. Her hands were folded on her stomach, and she was probably sleepy, so she occasionally brought her right hand up to her eye.

Ugh, the man sitting next to her is peeking through his manuscript paper.

The girl was sitting at the very end of her seat, so she was holding onto the handrail with one hand and leaning slightly towards her mother as she slept. But she was cute.

Ahh, a woman and man entered between us. Eei, you're in my way!

I could only see her older sister on the other side. She was leaning against her mother and facing away from me. Her black enameled shoes gave her a very outing-like vibe.

Ahh, more are coming. I can't see either of them anymore. I'll stop here.


——Ten Times Past——

They left. I can see. Let's resume.

The younger sister was sleeping with a tired look on her face, holding a pink pochette. The elder sister was looking blankly towards me. She seemed to be one step behind her younger sister. Her hair is shorter than her sister's, more of a bob cut, and she's very cute with a small blue hairband.

W, wow! She suddenly bends her right leg and holds it in both hands. Maybe I'll be able to see if I scoot towards her.

Finally, I see the mother's face. Mendel's Law was correct after all.

It looks like they're getting off. The elder sister looked preoccupied, as she's already standing. She has a cute flower-shaped ribbon on her chest and a ribbon tied around her waist. A black enamel pochette is hanging from a gold chain from her right shoulder.

The younger sister looks unhappy about being woken up. Ah, the door opens and they get off. I instinctively look back through the window, and the elder sister is trying to carry her younger sister on her back. But they're only one year apart, so it's likely impossible. Ah, the train has started moving. Well, that's about it for now. Bye-bye.

This is probably going to be a miserable series just like the previous 'Minor...' serial. Until next time...

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Shirasaka Kazumi and Project A-Ko


I wanted to translate an article by the president and editor-in-chief of the Cybele FC 'Humbert', so I picked this article. The 'Minor...' serial mentioned earlier was Shirasaka Kazumi's 'Will You Also Become a Minor Loli Character Fan?' series, which ended in the 5th issue. At the time of this translation, only the 3rd part has been scanned, a 4 page article that would take too much time and effort to translate about minor characters from various manga and anime. One of the characters discussed in the article was Princess Yukiko (雪子姫) from Nagai Go's 'Dororon Enma-kun' series (1973), which had a reboot in 2011.

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Not much is known about the editor-in-chief of the Cybele FC Humbert, Shirasaka Kazumi, nowadays, but he's credited as being the original creator of the OVA 'Project A-Ko' (プロジェクトA子) alongside Nishijima Katsuhiko (西島克彦) back when it was originally going to be a part of the Cream Lemon series. Also, one of the artists who contributed to Humbert, Akaishizawa Takashi, also worked on Project A-ko, and his personal doujinshi 'Prismatic Girls' was published by Shirasaka Kazumi. I told you to remember his name when his Cut appeared in the previous article! Chris scanned a Project A-ko Settei that also had illustrations by Akaishizawa Takashi and Cream Lemon illustrations by Kazuna Kei, you can find it under his username, adoggo, on Sad Panda, check it out alongside the Prismatic Girls scans by tooecchi~.

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As a side-note, Akaishizawa Takashi follows me on Twitter (X). I've been trying to collect everything he's worked on in case I can find an old interview.
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Shirasaka Kazumi also helped with another doujinshi called 'Alice Chrome'. In the earlier talk Kawamoto Kouji gave at the Yonezawa Memorial Library, you may have noticed a name censored by Kera. Well, that censored name is the person whose photographs were published in Alice Chrome by Shirasaka Kazumi. Something that should be understood about doujinshi is that in the 1980s, they had to be printed using a special process called halftone processing, which was expensive and not suitable for printing photographs, so producing photography-based doujinshi was a pipe-dream for most. Nevertheless, photograph-based doujinshi existed and 'Alice Chrome' was one of them. Surprisingly, the name of the photographer has never been mentioned in this thread despite him being prolific and well-known in Japan, though I believe I linked to a wikipedia article about a work he desperately fought to protect in the late 1990s (he printed this work on expensive acid free paper so it could illegally survive into the future). This is historically significant because anime Otaku were also fighting to protect their own works within the same period. Some alongside him.

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But regardless, I hope to learn more about Shirasaka Kazumi in the future. He might have completely disappeared like Hayasaka Miki, or changed to a different name people know him by nowadays. He's among the many important people in this thread unknown to western anime and manga fans.

The Anime Business: John O'Donnell:


This man was responsible for the Project A-ko English localisation back in the early 1990s. Though despite being an important OVA for introducing anime to westerners, I wouldn't be surprised if not a single one of these people knows about Shirasaka Kazumi.

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Literacy Course for Lolicon Ⅰ
Only You Will Be OK (Extra Edition)

Instructor Yamanaka Izumi (山中泉)


The time to write my serialised article again is approaching, (I can almost hear the angry voice of the editor-in-chief saying the deadline has already passed!) and yet, as I made clear in the first article, I don't have any manuscripts saved up, and I don't have the writing ability to submit a manuscript far before the deadline, so I believe this situation was inevitable.

To make a long story short, I dropped the ball on my serialised manuscript. After all, I have wandered the school library for days to write a serial, so there's no way I could write a serialised manuscript at this point.

For that reason, I would like to use this moment to answer the expectations of several fans across the country by writing an extra edition.


I moved recently. It's not that there weren't any girls around my previous home. If anything, I believe there were plenty. There was a small park nearby, and there must've been something going on because on Thursday nights, there were even more elementary schoolkids walking around the front of my house.

It could certainly be said I was blessed, but until now, it never really resonated with me.

It's true there weren't many Shoujo who could be called Bishoujo, but that wasn't the reason. There were also some cute girls that took my breath away.

Now that I've moved to my current home, I feel I finally understand the reason.

The biggest reason was that their age wasn't my preference. Perhaps because of that, their constitution was unusually robust and I felt like I was outmatched. So even though they looked like elementary schoolers, I was a little intimidated.

The second reason is returning home from cram school dilutes the charm of a Shoujo.

The third reason is darkness doesn't suit Shoujo.


My new home is somewhere in Tokyo. It's in a fairly urban area, and there's a nine-story building nearby. Inside is a fairly large bookshop.

Large bookshops usually have a comic section. That M Bookshop is no exception with a reference book and comic section on the 7th floor.

The first time I went up to the 7th floor, I couldn't believe my eyes.

There were more than 10 girls around the lowest year of elementary school, standing in front or around the bookshelves reading books.

Lined up in front of the shelves of the shoujo manga were undoubtedly the type of Shoujo I prefer. Where on earth did all these Shoujo come from?

The Shoujo, unable to line up in front of the shelves, were sitting flat on the floor. They were so innocent, they didn't care what other people thought. As they sat with their knees bent, their skirts rode up, and their white or floral polka dot underwear caught my eye.

I was so shocked that after standing there for a while, I forgot why I had come to the comic section and ran down the stairs. (That day, I wanted to purchase 'The Scenery Back Then' [あのころの風景] and 'Blue Ocarina' [青いオカリナ]!)

The next day, I went to M Bookshop again. Half feeling what had transpired yesterday was a queer spring incident, and the other half hoping they would be there again today.

Afraid to look straight ahead, I kept my eyes down. When the lift door opened on the 7th floor, what caught my eyes were polka-dot underwear. A girl in her second year, in a light pink jumper skirt, was sitting right in front of the lift doors with her knees raised and her legs slightly apart.

I almost suffocated that day. There were even more girls filling the floor than yesterday, all sitting flat.

I couldn't just gawk at them, so I got off the lift and waded through the crowd of girls.

Unfortunately, there were elementary school brats in front of the shounen manga shelf, who were an eyesore. But in terms of ratio, there were more girls than boys, so it was 6:4. No, it was closer to 7:3.

I stood in front of the bookshelf and formally picked up a manga book. Of course, my eyes were directed at the Shoujo beside me.

The Shoujo, who picked out shoujo manga, had their eyes wide open and stared at their manga intently. They didn't notice my gaze at all. Across from them was... a highschooler in a sailor blouse. I had seen something nasty. But beyond that nastiness were the elementary schoolers.

From that day forward, my daily life changed completely. I went to M Bookshop almost every day, under the suspicious gaze of my mother who asked, "Where are you going?"

The 7th floor of M Bookshop was always full of Shoujo. I enjoyed watching them. I still don't have the courage to bring a camera like Alice Chrome (アリスクローム), so it's a shame my readers won't be able to see this scene.

But there's one thing that bothers me. No matter how brazen I am and how I no longer feel embarrassment, I still feel embarrassed about pushing my way through all those Shoujo to buy shoujo manga.

So every time a new book comes out, I have to stop by a faraway bookshop to do my shopping, then drop by M Bookshop again to look at the Shoujo. What a complete waste of time.

But more than anything, these days I desperately pray the shop staff don't notice.


I'm relieved I finally managed to meet my quota. I'll be back with my series next time. Thank you for your continued support.

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▲Yumimurariku

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Source:シベールF・C『プレザンスⅦ』 1982/9/20(発行:ハンバート)

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Special Feature:
Thinking About the Cool Boom
Alone and Widening Boom

By Kurishima Shizuma (庫裏嶋静馬)


My manuscript request came on the 28th.

The deadline is the 30th (it must arrive by that date).

Naturally, that couldn't possibly happen.

It was June. But that wasn't the only reason. I didn't submit my manuscript because I thought it wouldn't be too late to wait until I saw the summer Comiket first (conveniently, the publication date was also delayed). As a result, what I witnessed was just an interval after the boom.

What I was seeking wasn't nudity, but a world built around Shoujo, different from the current shoujo manga. Love comedies aren't the only genre that can express the cuteness of Shoujo.

If you want, there's period pieces, adventure novels, SF, gothic romance, horror novels, and romance novels (伝奇小説). Despite that, the long-established ones like × × × and ○○○ are repeating one pattern, and the small and medium-sized ones are even more disorganised. Comiket is not an ero-manga spot and sales event.

That's, well, also something that couldn't be helped. There's many people who write nonsense like this, but when it comes to people with a certain level of skill, their numbers are limited. Recently, due to the influence of × × ×, manuscripts are often outsourced, and as a result, requests are concentrated on famous individuals. Even famous people only have one arm to use and one brain to think, so they cannot handle all these requests and end up dropping them all. The requester hastily pulls out whomever is closest (that's the way of manga), and as a result, the overall level drops.

What's even more unbearable are doujinshi clearly made with a sales-only mentality. In these cases, they strip off the clothes and pull a Cybele as if it's good so long as it sells. Such things only serve the creator's self-satisfaction and are no match for Cybele.

There's no meaning in criticising only the artists, so let's turn our attention to the buyers as well (my eyes hurt). After all, supply can only exist if there's demand.

Nevertheless, as someone said before, they are very quiet and polite (but there are always idiots everywhere, and at Comiket 21, a dozen or so people cut in line for □□□, which was annoying). In other words, they don't do anything, they simply search silently for, and buy, books of that nature (like Matheson's automatons, I used a creepy analogy). The same goes for all Circles (not just for this kind), but... Ours has a little under 40 members (I think?), and only a little over 10 (I believe) of them are active. Most of them are passive.

However, do the beings called Lolicon act passively? It's not something you can easily figure out with a little bit of thought, you have to put it into practice! It's difficult to say.

But that doesn't mean we can just assume the majority of these buyers are psuedo-Lolicon! Because everyone has their own circumstance (Editor: what you mean is excuse).

1) Unfortunately, they're not blessed with any literary, drawing, or composition skills (that hurts to hear) and are not very good at it.

2) People with an Engel coefficient of around 90%, that is, people who don't have any money to cultivate their literary, drawing, or composition skills, so there aren't many people among 2.

3) People who aren't interested and should get out of the loop quickly.

However, the worst type are those easily influenced by the crowd. In other words, people who see a long line at a sale and then just slip into it. For example, if you see a cute girl playing on the street and your friend next to you says 'you're a Lolicon' and you start to think that way. Often on the pages of doujinshi creator introductions, there's things like 'the number one Lolicon in the group', or something like that, but how much of a difference is there? I wonder what kind of nerve people have when they write things like this.

I'm running out of lines, so (I'm going to make a stretch) I'll jump to my conclusion. 'Cybele', which started the so-called Lolicon Boom, was an original doujinshi that depicted stories around Shoujo. Those who got their hands on it saw potential in 'Cybele' and followed it. But unfortunately, they didn't realise that 'Cybele' was a manga'. Because of that, what its followers created could not go beyond being a collection of stories that simply involved Shoujo being made into Cybele, divided into panels, and put into a book.

Despite that, they grew to a certain extent. And now they're heading towards extinction. Like the dinosaurs.

The current Lolicon Boom will never be able to climb to another level, just as chimpanzees can no longer evolve into humans. At least not if things continue as they are.

Please excuse any irrelevance that may exist between the individual paragraphs above.

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What was the Boom?


By Yamanaka Izumi (山中泉)


It's surprisingly, or natural, but the word Lolicon finally appeared in the Asahi Shimbun's July 3rd evening issue. Well, it's Asahi's evening issue that publishes articles on shoujo manga and features illustrations by Takemiya Keiko (竹宮恵子) and Yamagishi Ryouko (山岸凉子), so it's not surprising Lolicon appeared.

However, do you know which article the word Lolicon appeared in? I'll summarise it for those who don't know. It was in reference to people who buy cels, about a case in which a large number of cels were stolen from an anime cel shop, and it said, "There are many fans of Lolicon (Lolita Complex = Shoujo Hobby)."

I was a little angry at the way it was written, as if Lolicon induces anime cel theft, but more than anything, it made me think about the recent Lolicon Boom. In other words, this statement contains an equation that made me think about what the Lolicon Boom was.

The equation of Lolicon = Shoujo Hobby is a bit confusing because the term 'Shoujo Hobby' is a bit unclear and is normally thought of as a 'Shoujo-ish Hobby', but considering that Asahi is a newspaper of Japanese conscience and intellectuals, I will ignore this and assume this is the general understanding.

The problem is the 2nd equation, that is Lolicon = People Who Buy Anime Cels, I don't intend to go into the target age range of Lolicon or the psychological analysis of Lolicons at this point.

However, no matter how you look at it, Lolicon are (sexually) attracted to Bishoujo, and I want to make it clear that cels and manga only have a secondary meaning.

However, when you look at how the Lolicon Boom surrounding this Comiket, which became a big hit with Cybele, is at a crossroad with the discontinuation of Cybele, and is said to be declining, you cannot help but wonder what in the world was Lolita Complex.

As I don't know the central figures of this boom, such as the artists of Cybele or Hirukogami, I have no right to say whether they are Lolicon or not, since I don't know them. However, I would like to state categorically that among the many Cybele-like doujinshi that have been published like bamboo shoots over the past year or so, there are almost none that can be called Lolicon-zines (including ours).

I believe the essential element of most of these doujinshi can be summarised into two points: anime characters and ero-guro. The fact all of these ero-guro works are about Shoujo is merely incidental to the following two facts. The first fact being anime characters are generally Shounen and Shoujo. And the second fact being if the main characters are Shoujo, it's easy to sell them under the name of Lolicon-zine.

There's almost no sense of the artist's passion that screams, "There must be Shoujo there!" I don't believe this is a problem with my sensitivity or the artist's skill. To me, I feel nothing besides the passion of artists.

This can easily be seen from the content. Many Lolicon-zines still haven't gone one step beyond Cybele's basic story structure. A Shoujo appears, then there's masturbation or sexual intercourse without much context. But is the sexual act the only thing attractive about Shoujo? I have to answer no. Given the situation, the only possible reason I can think of are the creators creating with the intention of selling it, or that the creator is completely untalented.

Also, many Lolicon-zines feature anime characters. The masturbation of the characters ultimately comes down to the aforementioned parts, but the rest is about liking that anime and that character.

Just to be clear, I'm not saying character books are bad, and I don't deny there are anime characters that Lolicon like. However, I just want to say that just because a Lolicon likes character A, it doesn't necessarily mean that the person who likes character A is a Lolicon. Just to be clear.

In the end, I came to the conclusion that the so-called Lolicon Boom surrounding Comiket was not a Lolicon Boom in the sense that the number of Lolicon among the people around Comiket increased, or that Lolicon suddenly started flocking to Comiket. To put it simply, the Lolicon Boom was small in any sense.

What existed was a boom with the 'Lolicon' label, or perhaps a boom in 'Lolicon' fashion.

Of course, it's said a boom cannot exist without incorporating such incomprehensible peripheral elements, there's no way to argue against it, but now that I can look at this 'boom' with a little more detachment, I don't believe I can accept it with the enthusiasm to ride it.

Now, we should take a more calm look at the 'boom'. This is my personal opinion, but I feel this 'boom' will leave nothing behind for Lolicon.


[Author Postscript]

Thank you for reading this. Thinking about it now, my perception of the situation from the middle part onwards hasn't changed at all since last summer. I'm terrified it might continue like this for several years to come. However, what has changed is that Lolicon has been completely labeled as a product. The 'Lolicon Complete Works' (ロリコン大全集) is now completely in circulation.

Making physical love to a Shoujo is a serious act that goes against social ethics and also violates the Criminal Code, the Child Welfare Act, and the Youth Protection and Development Ordinance, but no matter how compensatory an act it is, I still feel 'Lolicon is Play'.

I'm sure I would be discouraged if even a bright book titled 'How to be a Proper Lolicon' were to be distributed.



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What is Cybele Really?


By Richard, Duke of Gloucester (グロスター公リチャード)


Prologue



I would like to state at the outset the poor writing I'm about to befoul my dear reader's eyes is a product of my own haphazard memories and arbitrary opinions.


Chapter One:
Laughing Impact Cybele



How many people didn't crack a smile when they first obtained Cybele? Even if they didn't show it on their faces, they must've been smiling in their hearts. It matters not if it was a wry smile or a grin. My point being people were caught by the intentions contained within its black cover.

I heard rumours Cybele was launched with the intention of being shoujo manga. However, it seems to me within its black cover, it's filled with gag manga using shoujo manga characters. From that point of view, it seems it was aiming to be a shounen manga rather than a shoujo manga. However, it's hard to say it's a good idea to classify shounen manga as shoujo manga at this point. However, it's more appropriate to call its laughing impact a gag rather than a comical or comedy.

There are countless people who didn't laugh at Vol.5, which was probably the greatest masterpiece in all of Cybele. If the black cover is one form of humour, Cybele may have left a legend that was more funny than shocking.


Chapter Two:
Cybele Dragged Anime Parodies



Just as anime parodies started by being dragged along by Homo, Cybele ended its activities by dragging along all manner of parodies, including anime parodies. This may have been inevitable for Cybele, who was active during the transitional period between the heyday of anime parodies to the rise of Lolicon. Unfortunately, this tone remained even more firmly in the movement that followed.

The Lolicon Boom, which had passed its peak, settled into a position where anime parodies were merely made more pornographic, and no excellent works were produced. Rather, the boom was a re-differentiation of what Cybele possessed, and an increase in quantity.

If that were the case, perhaps Cybele should have aimed towards a more original direction (Editor's Note: Perhaps Epical was created based on this reflection). If that had been realised, the state of the movement may have been very different. In reality, however, it only produced rehashes of repetitive works and excessive child pornos.


Chapter Three:
Wise Choice—Final Issue—



I was fortunate enough to be able to read Cybele Vol.2, 5, and 7. I'm deeply sorry for ignoring Vol.3 and 4, but Cybele's quality peaked with Vol.5 and then went downhill. Vol.6 was the issue that turned to negative growth with the hiring of newcomers incapable of producing anything new, but instead became a rehash of the previous Cybele, a sort of Cybele parody. Vol.7 was the lowest point, and there was no enthusiasm for the final issue. Rather, there was only a feeling of exhaustion that this was the final issue.

Cybele left with a broken sword and no arrows, low in spirit. But it was not a defeat. It was a courageous retreat. If Cybele wanted to continue fighting, it would have had a solid base of customers and could have dominated the boom. But what remained was likely nothing more than an empty shell.

Cybele chose the path of destruction by its own hands. "We did what we had to do." This was the editor's note for the final issue, which is impossible to read without shedding tears. I cannot help but feel it also contains the meaning, "Now it's up to each and every other Cybele..."


Chapter Four:
Legend



Within half a year of Cybele's discontinuation, the Lolicon Boom rapidly expanded from its rise to its peak, and Cybele became a legend. There are many reasons why it became a legend, but the biggest reason is that no doujinshi has surpassed Cybele. Like bamboo shoots after the rain, doujinshi overflowed the venue of Comiket 18, but they did not have the same impact as Cybele. Only Myaa caused a stir.

Another big factor was that Cybele ceased publication after being introduced in a commercial magazine. For those who knew it outside Comiket, it didn't take long for the feeling of 'it already stopped publication' to change to 'I don't know what it was, but it was an amazing book'. However, it was fortunate for Cybele that it was not made into a scapegoat. When you compare it to Hirukogami, who was forced to take its place, you cannot help but feel that way.

By becoming a legend, Cybele became a monument. Even if many of the problems Cybele contained were buried under that beautiful name, it is hard to think of anything other than praise for it now.


Final Chapter


This story of Cybele, which nicely rolls off the tongue, will be told in a unique atmosphere. However, I hope it will be told in the charming atmosphere of Carroll or Humbert Humbert. That would be best.


Note: Black Book (黒本)
A book of essays for young people from the Edo period. The name comes from its black cover.

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(As a note, Volume 0~7 of Cybele have been scanned and uploaded (tooecchi says they're going to soon upload one of the supplementary issues created after Vol.7, the final issue, called 'Petit Cybele' in the near future and create a post about everything they researched that you should read). My Japanese friend, ぽーるちゃん, who helped provide some of the scans for some of the previous translations, managed to obtain and scan Cybele Vol.1, so it's on Sad Panda. It's thanks to tooecchi's efforts that he inspired my colleague to do such.)

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About Epical
〜Enough with the Queues〜

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Epical, one of the direct successors of Cybele (tooecchi plans to scan all of these issues).

By Murai Shun (村井 俊)



Even during the summer Comiket, Epical was popular. Some readers criticised other readers by saying, "You're only buying it because they're the remnants of Cybele." It's certainly not a baseless criticism, but here's what I think.

Ever since Cybele ceased publication, artists have largely concentrated to two books: Epical (エピカル) and Ascalon (アスケロン). Epical is a book of adventure stories with Shoujo as the protagonists. At its root is old shounen manga. While Cybele was born as a parody of old shoujo manga, Epical was born as a product of its artists' unquenching desire for storytelling into a classical orthodox shounen adventure manga doujinshi. A friend of mine once commented on Konoma's art, saying it was a shame he had changed so much from his shoujo manga of 10 years prior, but in light of the above, it's only natural.

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Ascalon, the other half of Cybele's legacy (tooecchi never heard of this doujin before, so we're going to have to track down issues for sale).

However, it cannot be said the current Epical places Konoma in the leading current of the book. My apologies to Konoma, but Epical is clearly a book for Mitaka (三鷹). The reason why I'm so into Mitaka is because his manga tries to depict a single world in a round shape rather than depict a single protagonist. The story framework of his and Konoma's manga are similar to that of old shounen manga, but unfortunately, Konoma is more modern. Mitaka can immerse himself in one grand yarn, but Konoma cannot. He and his story are separate entities. In Cybele, the diagram where embarrassment towards his own works to produce gags, coming from Konoma's labyrinthine sense, was correct. However, this was correct because it was a parody-zine called Cybele, and in Epical, where the story should be told with a high-handed attitude, it is not only unnecessary, but only a hindrance. What is needed here is to either build an entire world or destroy it.

While Mitaka is trying to build a world, Oki should've been the one to laugh at the whole world. But his method doesn't go that far. Of course, if he could do this, he wouldn't have time to work on his doujinshi. For now, Uno (うの) seems to be handling this task better than Oki. One reason for this is because Oki chose SF as the setting for this story. To laugh at the present or past is to laugh at something that already exists, but in SF, you have to first build a stage and then destroy it, so it's double the effort. The path Oki chose is by no means easy.

In contrast to Epical's direction, Ascalon goes more towards fantasy than adventure. There, the story is not important. What's important is the atmosphere. The issue is not what to draw, but how to draw it. I wonder if this is why the 3rd issue of Ascalon had even less of a story than the previous issues (although the manuscript requests may have been delayed). I'll also add that it was a mistake to make the print size larger for the third issue of Ascalon. The screen looked white.

Now, in this Ascalon, Morino (森野) has definitely changed his art. From art buried in the story to art shown as a single image. From my own personal point of view, this is a change that I would not say is favorable, but there's no doubt it is a big step forward.

The interesting thing about Ascalon is that several artists with completely different styles are trying to draw the same thing. Because of this, it doesn't feel cluttered. It's amazing all these different art styles are gathered in one book and still maintain cohesiveness.

My only worry is that Asamiya (麻宮) and Arise (ありせ) will be too busy with Ascalon to publish Pop Cider (ポップサイダー), but that's me unnecessarily prying into their business (however, Miyamoto [宮本] looks busy as well...).

Anyway, if I were to pick between Epical and Ascalon, I would probably go with Ascalon. No doubt this choice was heavily influenced by the fact I'm a big fan of Magical Fox (マジカルフォックス) as a boy, but even so, Ascalon is not inferior to Epical. As a story manga-zine, Epical is certainly of a high quality, but is it really a book that can make people line up and sell out in less than two hours?

So, let's return to the opening topic.

Can someone who really loves manga actually get their hands on Epical? Would someone who always browses through to check the contents before making a purchase really go out of their way to line up just to buy Epical? Is it wrong to consider whether this is the kind of reader Epical really wants? Even after Epical, the number of letters seems to be small, just like the days for Cybele. If there are no letters, they should make them come. They should at least make sure the book reaches the hands of people who will write the kind of letters they want. What's the point of asking for feedback without doing that? That's nothing more than simple grumbling.

If the editorial staff of Epical are not satisfied with the current situation (it's fine if they're happy with the way things are), shouldn't they go ahead and reprint Epical so many times it would go unsold? It wouldn't be a bad bet to take that sort of risk with the sales they've made so far. If people know they can buy it without lining up, they'll find new readers, and the ridiculous commotion will die down. And most importantly, there'll be fewer people who line up without buying a book. Maybe next time sales will go down because of that. But that's fine, isn't it? They'll surely find real readers.

Or they'll continue to lure customers in a hungry market like they do now, forever and ever...


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Kansai Lolicon-zines


By Kamiya Keiri (神谷敬里)


There are quite a few Lolicon in the Keihanshin district, or Kansai. In most anime Circles or manga research clubs, there is always at least one person who says, "I'm a Lolicon..." However, when it comes to Lolicon doujinshi, the number is even smaller. No matter how you count, there are probably at most 10 zines. After all, the greatest number of Lolicon Circles at a single doujinshi event was three at the Kobe Comic Fair.

The earliest Lolicon-zines in Kansai were 'Nekolita' (ネコリータ), 'Bishoujology' (美少女学), and Griffon (グリフォン) followed by 'China Doll' (チャイナドール) and 'Rori' (璐麗).

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Nekolita is probably the first cat(girl)-themed doujinshi; however, that's because Sham Cat appears (some of the illustrations involve actual cats).
Bishoujology is important to remember (remember it!)


The first one I'd like to introduce is 'Rori-2'. It's an orthodox Lolicon-zine that features Lolicon manga, Lolicon illustrations, Lolicon novels, but the art is well-balanced and it's a Lolicon-zine you can read with a peace of mind. In particlar, the article about 'LaLa' suits my interests. If I had to say, it's serialising articles that call for the rediscovery of shoujo manga in Lolicon doujinshi that focus on anime, shounen manga, and ero-manga.

Speaking of ero, 'Rori' prohibits SM. And even more extreme than 'Rori' is 'China Doll'. I was actually involved with 'China Doll'; it's a Lolicon-zine that excludes SEX to the extent I wondered if it could sell with such a strict guideline. The reading material includes recommendations for girl watching and SF-chic Lolicon novels, but the selling point of this book is the Bishoujo illustrations by Fukunaga Hayao (ふくながはやお) and Fukunaga Kazunori-kun* (ふくながかずのり), who never draws his Shoujo nude, so this is probably why he was chosen for the strict 'China Doll'.
※Translator Note: This sentence needs to be corrected in the future once I find the table of contents for China Doll.

Now some may say, "No SM, no nudity, that's not Kansai!" But rest assured. There are some who are so outrageous, you'll think, "That's Kansai for you!" The two biggest names in Kansai are 'Bishoujology' by "Bishoujo Fancier Club" (美少女愛好会), a sub-group of 'Shippo ga Nai' (しっぽがない), and 'Pale Pink Colour Ink' (ペイルピンクカラーインク) published by "Sketchbook" (スケッチブック). Bishoujology aims to delve deeply into Lolicon and has excellent research articles, but the one I recommend the most is 'Police News'. These are newspaper clippings of crimes against Shoujo, and it's impressive how thoroughly they collected them.

On the other hand, 'Pale Pink Colour Ink' has an atmosphere that is generally ero. Anime characters masturbating, Marco flirting with Fiorina, and Lolicon pictures collected from overseas, which are plain disgusting.

I'll end this article here, but in Kansai, there's also the non-Lolicon Uchiyama Aki FC and town magazines that feature Lolicon, and I'd like to write again later about the latest information on Lolicon in Kansai and Lolicon in other regions.


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Literacy Course Ⅰ
Only You Will Be OK

Instructor Yamanaka Izumi (山中泉)


It's been around half a year since we last met, but before you know it, it's summer already here. I thought we were still in the rainy season, but the other day, there was a show on television where fledgling singers were wearing swimsuits. It was cloudy and looked cold, but I watched intently, hoping to catch a glimpse of a cute girl.

She wasn't really the type I prefer. When I looked at the posters at a record shop the other day, I really liked a girl called Nakamori Akemi-chan (中森明美), and when I saw her on television, she was wearing clothes I liked, but when I saw her recent posters and her in a swimsuit, I was a little disappointed. Her facial expression was a little more mature, and her breasts were even more impressive (perhaps around Kashiwabara Yoshie's [柏原よしえ] size?), which is a bit of a problem for my tastes. Also, she looks a little older.

Speaking of which, recently, I've been feeling Itou Tsukasa (伊藤つかさ) also isn't 'the best!'. She's as cute as ever, and even though she's now a high schooler, she still feels childish, but I preferred how Tsukasa used to talk. I liked her slightly childish high-pitched voice and the way she spoke, straining and lamenting with a hint of shyness, but recently, she started to speak more clearly, which rubs me the wrong way.

The other day, I was watching volleyball without knowing that Wada Sawako-chan (和田佐和子) appeared in a competing timeslot; she's incompatible with television.

However, I'm barely tolerating real life, there's always lots of Shoujo and Youjo playing in the park on my way to school. There are some hopeless brats, mothers gossiping, and lots of kids who are a little too young (walking around unsteadily in diapers), but there are some pretty cute girls and it's fun watching them.

So, this time, let's begin with the tragedy of a Shoujo who went to play alone (without her mother).

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His name is Kobayashi Tetsuo (小林哲夫). He's 21 years old. He was released from prison recently, and is currently staying at friend A's apartment and is unemployed.

At the time of his arrest, he worked as a labourer. In modern terms, he's a construction worker. His charge, after his vehement denial, was attempted rape and assault.

Because my sempai was close to his lawyer, I was able to get details about his crime (should I say I envy him or say he's a bad guy?), so I shall report it here.

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That day, Tetsuo went fishing with friend A, who is also a labourer. It happened to be a day off work, and the two of them had a lot of time to kill.

Their destination was a pond near a boarding house. The sun had already passed its zenith when they went out, and as anyone who has ever fished will know, it was a time when it's impossible to catch any fish.

As expected, neither Tetsuo nor A had any luck. At first, the two of them were fishing side by side, but because of the situation, Tetsuo moved a little upstream.

He had been fishing there patiently for a long time, and around 4:30pm when the sun was quite low, she came down from the bank. Tetsuo was intently staring at his float he didn't even notice her coming down.

"Hey, Onii-chan, what're you doing?"

When she suddenly asked him over his shoulder, it was only then he noticed her and turned around. Standing right behind him was Arai Nami (新井奈美) (not her real name). She was wearing a navy blue dress with pink flowers scattered all over it, white knee-high socks, and red sandals. The big ribbon tied around her back and her frilly hem was very cute.

But he returned his gaze to the float bobbing on the surface of the water as he answered.

"Err, what's it look like? I'm fishing."

As he sat on the bank of the pond and stared at the float, he felt Nami squat down diagonally behind him.

"Hmm, you're fishing?"

When Tetsuo turned around at the cute, lisping voice, Nami was peeking at the sky.

The hem of her dress was not tucked behind her knees, so the back side was touching the ground and the front side was pulled up.

Tetsuo's eyes were captured by her white underwear. It was children's cotton underwear. Normally, he wouldn't have paid any attention to it.

But on this day, he was quite irritated. A spark flew in his mind. He looked towards A.

A was about 40 metres downstream, staring intently at his float just like Tetsuo a moment ago. He didn't seem to notice Nami at all.

"I'll buy you some candy."

Tetsuo put his fishing gear on the ground and stood up.

"OK."

Nami stood up without any suspicion and followed Tetsuo.

On the other side of the bank was a cemetery. Although the sun had set a little, it was still bright, but one side of the bank was already dark.

Tetsuo acted quickly. He reached the top of the bank, picked Nami up under his arm, and dashed into the cemetery.

He threw Nami's body on the stone paving of the cemetery. The bottom of her dress was rolled up, revealing her white underwear.

It seemed to be clothing for a child, with a wide hem and no cinched waist, so he grabbed the bottom of her cotton chemise and rolled it over her head.

Her soft belly, still childish, was half-hidden by her white underwear. Stretching out from under the white underwear were two plump legs.

Tetsuo's eyes were fixed on the joint between her legs. His hands reached roughly across Nami's body and ripped off her white underwear.

Of course, there was nothing growing on 3 year-old Nami's plump nether regions. There was only a deep cleft. Tetsuo used both hands to spread Nami's legs wide. The tightly closed slit opened a little, revealing her pretty pink insides.

Nami, unable to respond to the sudden change in the kind Onii-chan, finally recovered from her shock and suddenly burst into loud tears.

Tetsuo panicked as he took off his trousers and tried to mount Nami. Holding Nami's mouth with one hand, he tried to get inside her, but Nami's small body was too difficult to handle.

Nami cried even louder. The face of A flashed through Tetsuo's mind. Suddenly thinking he might be spotted, Tetsuo fled.

All that was left behind was Nami with her lower body exposed. Her white underwear had been stripped and was lying nearby, just as she was when she was found.

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So, it was fortunate for Nami-chan, and unfortunate for Tetsuo. It ended with a feeling of wastefulness, but the verdict in this case stated something very interesting.

The victim, Nami-chan, was a 3-year old girl, but according to the doctor's assessment (this kind of job isn't so bad after all), "Even a 3-year-old girl can be sexually assaulted by an adult man."

If 3 years old is fine, then it's probably fine if it's 4 or 5 years old, so if you like this age range (my tastes are close to this range), you have this doctor's seal of approval. The only thing stopping you now is a fear of becoming a criminal and a mental disorder, not a physical one.

Still, why are there so many cases of girls being forcibly assaulted? I wish they would either get full consent (even if it has no legal bearing), or at least deceive them into consenting.

Of course, people who do this are not Lolicon; they attack Shoujo simply because they happen to be the closest to them, or because the Shoujo doesn't resist or her resistance is weak. I have never met anyone who says, "I attack Shoujo because I'm only attracted to Shoujo."

I'm not sure whether this is because the Lolicon youth are surprisingly sensible, or they don't get caught because they're doing it with consent from girls around the upper years of elementary school, but I believe it's easier for Lolicon youth to live if they don't become Shoujo Rape Fiends using Lolicon as a motive, but that's all for now.

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Instead of regulating violent and sexual video games and comics, politicians should look to regulating fishing and golfing; those two hobbies are responsible for the spontaneous rise of normal labourers becoming Youjo Rape Fiends.


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Shoujo Flow 5: Extra Edition
A Strange Report for Those New to Shoujo Photography


By Wakao Kouji (若尾康司)


I noticed some differences between the way Alice Chrome (アリスクローム), who has written about Shoujo photography in 'White Humbert 1st', takes their photos and the way I do it, so here's my report.

First, go with a friend (preferably someone who knows a lot about photography). Girls these days know a lot, and if you bring a compact camera, they'll look at you with a mocking and condescending look. Just take pictures quietly, as if you're simply accompanying a friend. If you're quick, you can take 4~5 pictures, and even if you're slow, you'll grow accustomed to taking a whole roll of film. Never use a motor drive or an autowinder, but take as many pictures as you want. For that, I believe a large park full of children during a holiday is a good place. This depends on the person's tastes, but (I'm different) it's not the best place to expect chiraism.

Sports days are not well recommended. Is it because I hate exhibitionists!? In the summer, girls start wearing short skirts, tank tops, sleeveless dresses, shorts, and so on. I hate this season (Editor: what do you mean, you hate it?). I like winter when they don't show their body lines and protect their skin from our eyes (?) (however, it's unfortunate not many girls go out during this season).

Station platforms. I don't recommend these after I got called to the Public Security Office because I got carried away. The same goes for department store rooftops.

Small parks are great in that respect. Especially the parks in Shibuya, Meguro, Setagaya, and Nakano are the best. Because the girls there have class.

The streets. This should never be done while you're being supported by your parents. You'll make your parents cry.

Also, it's dangerous to set your sights on a particular girl and get involved with her surroundings. At least on the day you meet her, play doctor for a day, and... ah, scratch that. You should only give them a little jump rope and encourage them. But if you really want to take a good picture, try calling out to a group of 2~3 girls. Even if you're only interested in one of them, you should treat them all equally. The heart of Shoujo are easily hurt. If you really want just one girl, trim the photo (and get a good lens for that).

At amusement parks, parents are often present. However, it's quite easy to take pictures because parents, as well as their children, are relaxed. There are various props to arrange the Shoujo, so you should take a picture of her cutest moments. Don't take pictures of girls who have just come out of a haunted house. That's messed up. It's best to take pictures of girls who have just come off a roller coaster. You can expect good pictures especially on the first and second Sundays of long holidays and on Children's Day.

Even if you're aiming for girls, it's quite easy to take pictures of older girls around 10~12 years old. As they are at an age where they yearn for love, they are susceptible to their moods. So if you approach them like an adult, they will easily fall for you, like twisting the arms of a baby, or rather a Shoujo. Sometimes these ecstatic girls will even agree to a secret rendezvous a week later (without telling their parents, of course). Of course, you will have to manipulate your status a little...

The Shoujo at temple festivals aren't bad either. Their sexiness without any sense of physical desire is irresistible. However, if you use a single-lens reflex camera, you'll need to use a somewhat troublesome trick called synchronous scanning......

If you have read the above and would like to start taking pictures of Shoujo, please do not take pictures like the professional photographer (Editor: a certain butt photographer) K. He has even published a photobook called Shoujo Bunko, and it seems he clearly thinks of girls as sex objects. Please stay in M's realm.

I recommend you use a compact camera at first. Most cameras have a focal length of about 40~50mm, so you can't take close-up shots unless you get really close, so it takes courage. If you take 200~300 pictures, you'll definitely know if you're really cut for Shoujo photography. Then it's never too late to buy a single-lens reflex camera. After all, cameras are not cheap.

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Source:『ろりこんこん』 1983/12/25

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Special About Lolicon
●Gender Equality Increases the Number of Lolicon!?


By Oonishi Hideaki (大西秀明)


Lolicon was supposed to be a term to describe an abnormal sexual desire in which a middle-aged man loves a Youjo. However, nowadays, it also includes a man loving a Shoujo, and even a female loving a younger female, or Shoujo loving a Shoujo the same age as her.

The Shoujo I prefer are between 12~16. From Nabokov's point of view, I would not be a Lolicon at all. From a prewar perspective, a bride between the age of 12 to 14 would've been correct.

Apparently, kings of the past were proud of the many Shoujo they exclusively had for 〇〇〇〇.

So why does such love have to be called Lolicon nowadays?

This trend must've started in modern times when the age of marriage started later, and men, unable to keep up with this trend, found themselves having to marry women, who are no longer beautiful and have started to show signs of their aging, as a way to express their desires straightly.

In fact, this is what painters say. Women are at their most beautiful for a very short period of time, between the ages of 14 to 16. From the age of 18, women's bodies begin to age.

Now, if that were all, the term Lolicon would not be treated as a shady term.

Who is most afraid of Lolicon?

Women over the age of 20.

When they graduate from university and enter society, when they try to find a marriage partner, they realise the men around them only have eyes for girls who are 10 years younger than them. Women's contempt for Lolicon is clearly jealousy.

After the war, there was gender equality, but not age equality. Legally, females over 16 can marry, and they can also 〇〇〇〇 females over 12.

In other words, the idea that Lolicon is immoral is being spread by women.

There's another reason the number of Lolicon men has increased.

Equality in education for men and women, and preferential education for girls by female teachers, which is common in elementary schools.

The ideal for men is to be relied on by the female. It's not interesting when women do whatever they please, such women are not cute.

It's a man's instinct to have his ideal woman, even if it's only in fantasy.

Raising a woman according to one's ideal has been around since the Heian period.

There's nothing wrong with us doing this. What's more, what hesitation is there in doing something that is legally permitted?

Until the ideal woman appears in reality, we will be indifferent to the women of the world.


Oonishi Hideaki


The first editor-in-chief of the Bishoujology (美少女学) fanzine.

He's currently enthusiastic about Bishoujo Publishing. Apparently, he's famous for being a serious Lolicon... From my interactions, he seems like a normal guy (or perhaps not?), but he made this article more extreme. Girls may find some parts a bit shocking, but he's a serious Lolicon after all...


Also, I accidentally obscured some parts of his text, so I apologise (it sounds weirder after I had obscured them.)

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I told you to remember Bishoujology (Chris scanned one of its later issues, which does have the Police News articles. Check them out on Sad Panda.)



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Special: About Lolicon
●I'm an ally of Lolicon! ... Just kidding.


By Fujimoto Takahito (藤本孝人)


You often read articles on the third page of newspapers with titles like 'Youjo Prank' or 'Shoujo Injured Two Weeks'. Then at the hairdresser, it becomes a hot topic for those who were Shoujo long ago to utter comments like, "Oh my, Oku-sama, that's terrible." "That's really scary~!" However... the Lolicon that is booming in doujinshi and commercial magazines these days seems to be a bit different from these Practitioner Lolicon. For example...

During a certain Comiket, a certain Circle noticed there were a lot of young men who looked like Lolicon recently, so they had their cousin, a third year elementary schooler, sit at their sales counter and say, "Onii-cha~an, buy this for me~!" They thought the Lolicon youth would surely drool and come over to them, but they simply looked away and peeked out of the corner of their eyes from a distance.

So, they grabbed the nearest Lolicon youth, a chubby guy with glasses and a shoulder bag, and said, "Hey, you, this girl's saying such a thing, so why don't you buy something!?" But the youth, sounding like he was about to burst into tears, babbled, "I'm not a Lolicon." And he ran away.

Just when they thought their hopes had been dashed, ladies in their 20s gushed, "Oh, how cute." And they bought loads of doujinshi. And everyone lived happily ever after.

I believe you now understand boys who call themselves Lolicon are actually weak to real girls.

So, there's no way they could ever go on a national Shoujo humiliation tour in Southeast Asia, like the editor of a certain Lolicon-zine, record it on video, and make a profit when they return.

Like the student from W University, who went to an elementary school to take pictures of girls. He got surrounded and told to show his student ID, and ran away. Anyways, they're innocent, cute (or not...), kind-hearted, good-natured, very naïve, and shy (despite being brazen!)~♥

However, that being said, when I heard the story of a certain representative of a certain major Lolicon doujinshi, who found a crushed cockroach at the bottom of his favourite shoulder bag (estimated weight: 15kb) at the end of last year (true story!), I cannot help but agree their existence and public health may be an issue.


Fujimoto Takahito

Publisher of a certain Manga no Techou. He's also famous as a living phototypesetter, and is very active in a certain 'Mizumaze Book' (みずまぜぶっく)!


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Yes, this is the same person who conducted the Fusion Product interview in the OP and also interviewed Hirukogami Ken.

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Source:『I MADE IT THE FUCK UP』 2025/5/18


Super Lolicon Cultures: Christianity VS Tale of Genji


By Taruby (タルビ)



A friend, who reads this thread, sent me a video (Link) of a Japanese bloke claiming Japan's Lolicon history is way longer than American history citing 'The Tale of Genji' written in the 11th century. However, American history is intimately tied to Christian history. So I'm going to take this opportunity to briefly remind Americans of their own Super Lolicon Culture that competes with Japan's Lolicon culture in the event they encounter someone citing the video of this Japanese comedian.

Christianity is much older and more Lolicon than 'The Tale of Genji'. Hikaru Genji kidnaps a Loli to raise her into his ideal woman. Unlike the patient Genji, the progenitor of all Japanese sex-slave-training eroge, the impatient God of the Jews, terminally ill with Lolicon, swoops in and impregnates the Jewish Virgin Mary after her bat mitzvah at the tender age of 13 years old, transforming her into the Loli-Mama of Jesus Christ, the ultimate Lolicon fanfiction fantasy. The two millennium long library of Lolicon fanfiction related to Holy Loli-Mama Mary dwarfs the one millennium one for Sex-Slave Lady Murasaki.

NTR-Protagonist Cuckold Carpenter Joseph never had sex with Virgin Loli-Mama Mary, and had to watch with impotent rage as Lolicon Baby Jesus avariciously suckled on Loli-Mama Mary's magnificently massive moomoo mommy milky mammaries——the culmination of Lolicon God selectively breeding Abram's descendants to produce the original Oppai Loli (Biblically autistic measurements of Mary's bust are described in the Gospel of Mary)——with a knowing, condescending smirk on his Jewish baby face. But Cuckold Carpenter Joseph had the last laugh; on the eighth day, Lolicon Baby Jesus was taken to a cave to be sexually mutilated in the most sadistic and abusive of Jewish traditions, a by-product of Lolicon God fucking with gullible Abram to mutilate both himself and all of his male descendants for the Lulz; Lolicon God, absolutely despised Jewish boys and wanted them all to be permanently incapable of sexually satisfying any potential Jewish princesses. But on the eighth day, with an "Ah Shit" expression on his Jewish baby face, Lolicon Jesus finally learned troll's remorse.

These were Lolicon Jesus Christ's true final words while nailed to the cross.

"Should've reincarnated into a Jewish Princess."

There ought to exist an alternate universe fanfiction detailing the adventures of Eternal Mesugaki Jesus and her many simps, I mean disciples. In this alternate universe, all Gentile Christians willingly strap their baby sons to Fisher-Price medieval torture devices; Eternal Mesugaki Jesus never felt the troll's remorse of Circumcised Femboy Jesus. During the Temple Table-flip scene, the Pharisees and Sadducees attempt to rape-correct Eternal Mesugaki Jesus, but their Zako-Zako mutilated penises wilt pathetically before the sharp, venomous tongue of the Jewish Princess of Princesses.

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The Gospel of Mary('s Bust) wasn't included in the official list of books in the Catholic Bible due to the unjust bias of altar boy molesting paederasts and DFC Alicon cultists penetrating their ranks.
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Japanese Biblical scholars faithfully recreating Virgin Holy Loli-Mama Mary's bust from careful analysis of the original source text.

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Future Translations:
◆Mita Ryuusuke Interview(s)
◆Kazuna Kei and Konoma Waho Interview(s)
◆Kagami Akira Interview
◆Hayasaka Miki Interview
◆●◆Oki Yukao Interview by Kera (?)
◆●◆Oki Yukao, Senno Knife, and Hariken Ryuu Talk with Kimi Rito (?)
◆Moto Hagio and Azuma Hideo Talk
◆Nagayama Kaoru's 'Secret of Bishoujo Manga' (1990)
◆Short Interviews (Bishoujo Encyclopedia 1991):
Amagi Kei
Moriyama Tou
Yui Toshiki (唯 登詩樹)
ITOYOKO
Minor Boy (まいなぁぼぉい)
MEE
Buibui
MON-MON
Yoshida Kei
Hiryuu Ran
Nanno Koto
Satou Marumi (佐藤丸美)
Oonuma Hiroshi
Nekojima Rei
Tanuma Yuuichirou
Maboroshi Chouji (幻 超二)
Expression History of Bishoujo as Material
The Flow of SEX and Love in Manga (Yonezawa Yoshihiro)
◆Short Interviews (Bishoujo Comic Catalogue 1996)

Akifuji Satoshi
Eno Akira
Keno Yantarou
See.O
Chatarou
Nishiki Yoshimune (にしき義統)
Fujisaki Makoto
Miyamoto Rumi
Yuuki (悠宇樹)
Ramiya Ryou
Rouen Rouga

Watanabe Yoshimasa
Hiryuu Ran (CG Technique)
Mon-Mon (CG Technique)
Gotou Juan (CG Technique)
◆Anime Bishoujo Doujinshi: From Lolicon, From Fanzine (1984)
◆What is the 'Harmful' Regulation (Yonezawa Yoshihiro)

There's some additional things I could talk about, but right now, all I care about is Chet Jasinski. Tooecchi wants me to buy a fake Facebook account, but I want to at least get someone else, who already has an account, and cares about the historical importance housed in Chet's brain to initiate contact for me.
 
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Day ●●, no signs of a bad enough dude to initiate contact Chet Jasinski on Facebook (or find out if he has a working e-mail on his Facebook profile).
MIA: Armenoid, mbanu
No Response Yet: William Chow, ScatteredCollector

Anyways, finally spoke to the Randoseru half of tooecchi, and learned they were someone whose blog I linked on the very first page of this thread. I don't know if this makes me happy or sad; Randoseru is very old and not in the best of health, so if Randoseru doesn't apprentice virile, able-bodied successors, then the archiving of this history will be left in the hands of individuals who cannot be depended upon to archive it faithfully and comprehensively. It's the Finnish blog that was responsible for scanning several issues of Lemon People, further cementing my belief the most useful members of internet society hail from the far north where it's very, very cold.

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Yes I know about that blog and being Finnish I can read it (well I wrote it and I was involved in that lecture, but that aside I have abandoned the blog as I lack time/inspiration for it and there's health reasons involved, not abandoned scanning and research of course), in Finland anime scene/fandom is pretty different from America (or anglosphere), in a way we are more close to Japanese side of things rather than say much to do with American anime fandom (though also kinda unique, I have known friends all over Europe and some even from Japan who come to Desucon just cause they think Finnish anime scene rocks lol, it's very local and almost all in Finnish though, but we all do speak English and many can speak Japanese to some extent) and "hentai" or lolicon aren't really taboos/controversial (the history is different though and long ago there was even threat of things being made illegal, I was among pioneers who made things as they are now, but this is a very long story) as it's legal it's just like porn or erotica in general, just a part of the hobby, though explaining all the differences would take like forever and I'm not sure if I even can put it all in words even, but feel free to ask me anything about it and I will answer. I'm old and seen the birth of anime/manga fandom here in the 90s and archived pretty much every commercial magazine and a lot of Finnish made doujin/fanzine materials which are also a thing really, but to use old SF term (can't think of less esoteric equivalent really for the concept, afaik it happened to Aaltomies too, some times there's a reason, some times people just "burn out" I guess) I did partially GAFIAte (just google it, though still going to conventions etc. of course, like I will be at Desucon this month, but "retired" from organizational side of things) since 2015-16 due to health reasons (I had bad lung infection with lung damage, covid hit me bad too, but I had it worse before really and I have chronic fatigue from it).

I need to see these Finnish commercial magazines and doujins. I was only able to find Spanish magazines hosted on Internet Archive.

Moetan said:
tarubi, i believe that you are trying to promote people to work with me on editing doujinshi but i guess that people are not responding to these many comments that you are making about this.

please tell me if interested people try to contact you about this.

if the people don't bother to contact you based on what you have already written about, then they are most likely not interested to assist at all.

Honestly, if I were to read what I've written, I would be too intimidated to contact myself to solicit my services to Moetan. I'm way too self-conscious. So just to be clear, Moetan says he'll act as a mentor so long as you have the passion to stick with this sort of project for the long term. If you're a lurker, and have problems registering to Varishangout, you can always initiate contact with Chris (Links).

Moetan said:
i have patience with it (teaching the necessary skills to an inexperienced newbie) but i would simply want the people to participate for a long term and not a short term.
if the people have a lot of love for these hobbies, then i would like to train them.

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This is another information magazine associated with Fusion Product. And it had its own special feature on Lolita Syndrome where you get to see samples of many Lolicon doujinshi. Some of these doujinshi don't garner results online. These articles are a rare example of legitimate Lolicon bashing by people within the doujin community proper (I find it funny the first one is by the person who edited the Fusion Product anthologies for Lolicon doujinshi; it's a living).


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Source:『コミックボックスジュニアVol.12』 1984/12



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Anime Bishoujo Doujinshi
Brutal Laughing Gas
Exhibition

Written and Edited by Tomizawa Masahiko (富沢雅彦)
※This individual also edited the 'Lolita Syndrome' (美少女症候群) anthologies by Fusion Product (you can read these on Sad Panda).




It's Not Just For Sating Lust
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▲From 'ZEED'.

By Tomizawa Masahiko (富沢雅彦)


The Final Rut of the 20th Century



I'm the type who reads 'JUNE', 'A', and 'AN', but won't even touch 'Lemon People' (レモンピープル). I love anime heroines and own several Bishoujo photobooks, but I have no intention of defining myself as a Lolicon and make an obsessive effort to protect that self-image.

So, the recent Lolicon Boom feels very one-pattern; whenever I hear the word Bishoujo—regardless if it's in commercial magazines, doujinshi, manga, or illustrations—the two characters for 'indigestion' (食傷) spring to mind. However, being a tentative anime fan, and also being an unfortunate character who cannot say no when asked, I accepted the task of writing the manuscript for this special feature. And I was forced to flip through hundreds of Bishoujo doujinshi piling up in the editorial department.

The insides of my head have become filled with white noise. It's fine for you guys drawing this sort of thing because you actually enjoy it, but try putting yourselves in the shoes of someone who has to look at more than a thousand Cormans*, hundreds of Nekomimi Shoujo, and dozens of dildos in less than two hours! It's all so tiresome... The most difficult being the ones where the girl is tied to a table and being penetrated by a tentacle-like manipulator. This is what springs to mind for everyone when they hear the words Mecha and Shoujo, and there's many drawings with the same composition in a single book, so I would like to grant these the shining throne of the one-pattern king, truly they deserve it.
※A polysemous word with multiple meanings; most common being slang for sexual activity, it also refers to famous people who have been active in various fields, such as the film industry, literature, politics, and the military.

Well, for that reason, from those hundred or so books, I decided to pick out some anime-themed ones and examine them. The ones I've chosen above are just a random selection from doujinshi over the past two or three years, and I would like to make a disclaimer they may not be relevant to the current scene.


The Madness and Tragedy of Lolicon


As long as one sticks to the framework of ero, or Bishoujo, its expression will inevitably become one-dimensional. Expression is an appeal of difference in the language of advertising critique, and if you try to satisfy your desire to draw something you believe is good or would appeal to others within that framework, you will inevitably escalate and present a situation known as the 'Paranoia of Differentiation' (差異化のパラノイア*).
※This is term that originated in an essay of the same name that was later compiled in the book 'Escape Theory: The Adventures of Schizo Kids' (逃走論―スキゾ・キッズの冒険) (Book Review Link). The review also explores the nuance of the word 'Sick' (ビョーキ), which frequently appears in these 1980 articles.

There are several patterns in the way of being (how they express difference) for doujinshi, but one of which is the direction of pushing the degree of ero more radically. This is a world where it's better to draw something more obscene than your contemporaries. Doggy style is better than missionary, SM is better than doggy style, anal is better than genitals, vibrators are better than fingers, and so on, and there seems to be no limit, but in the end, there are only so many ways to play with the human body. There's also the direction of appealing to good taste by the interestingness of the motif. For example, turning a heartwarming manga like 'Sazae-san' (サザエさん) or 'Fuku-chan' (フクちゃん) into ero, or drawing anime heroines in a realistic style like gekiga (or American comics). This also feels like falling into a world pretending to be minor where you have to choose untouched material to differentiate yourself.

So, even if you lump them all together, the impact of ero is no longer there, it simply becomes noise. There were some cases where the genitals were cut out, or there were complaints at the printing company, but it felt like it didn't matter what was drawn. It feels like I'm comparing acorns in a room with a very low ceiling.

The most memorable letter to the editor that was published in CBJr was the one in Vol.3, Ueno Tsugumi-san's (上野次美) 'Only Oji-sama Onii-sama Miyazaki Characters...!' (おじさまおにーさま宮崎キャラだけは…!). I'm not a fan of Miyazaki Shoujo personally, but sound arguments shine in any era. Also, regarding the rumoured ero-parody of 'Urusei' (うる星), it was a one-shot that was published in 'Manga Burikko' (漫画ブリッコ) and I thought it was very vulgar at the time. However, after reading over a hundred ero-doujinshi all at once, those feelings disappeared into thin air. Like treading into a bottomless swamp of lust, I found myself standing on my feet merely 5cm deep. I've reached the level of Telepath Nanase (七瀬) or Fujiwara Ayako (藤原綾子), or even Chronos (クロノス) when he left his body and looks down on the beastmen violating his body, and I've come to realise no matter how many times blasphemies are repeated on paper, it doesn't damage the essence of the characters in the slightest. It's true it's something every man thinks about, but even if drawn as is, it's not extreme or anything, it's just too easy.

So why do ero-parodies continue to be drawn despite this? I believe it's because they can express their difference and put themselves above others by just being ero. These others are 'serious' men, and girls, who get annoyed at the sight of ero, or the male protagonists of anime. And the assumption all men should like it guarantees ero material will always be well-received. In fact, the lower levels are quite bad, like toilet graffiti published in book form. I cannot help but think this is the result of a self-affirming acceptance of one-pattern. And even with all that, they have the power to violate others—the bodies of females, the feelings of fans other than themselves—and they behave in their zines as if they're 'real men'.


Sadism, Its Reality


That being said, they exist within the mass of a hundred or so books on my desk, as if they were a condensation of the amorphous thing known as anime space. Without our 'imagination', anime becomes nothing more than a vision on a scanline, so in that sense, this insult pattern seems to be an expression of the desire to communicate with characters in the two-dimensional world. In other words, by incorporating it into SM (rape) images, a closed-circuit type of communication is established as: "No, Stop!"→”Hihihihi, I'll torture you more."→"Please, stop!"→Hihihi...". If the receiving side, the fans, try to make the characters their own, this violates the originality of the creators, and it may be reasonable to say it leads to further 'violation' so long as it follows male logic.

The reason I once said Bishoujo magazines are better than Lolicon-zines is because the submissions from girls are more interesting. It feels like they form an 'interesting utopia', one form of it includes 'Fanroad' (ファンロード).

On the other hand, what men do is display how Sick they are and emphasise their differences in that manner. In the end, it's like they're violating the existence of others among themselves, and I believe in the end, men are the only ones who can communicate and reveal themselves by 'violating' others—so my conclusion this time is that, even before saying ero-doujinshi are boring, the 'male logic' at its foundation is pathetic (I intended to write my criticisms within the first two parts and then write something positive for the third part, but I ended up being negative. Sorry.)

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Underfloor Free Talk
Lolicon and the Fanzines that Followed


By Iwashimizu Ryou (石清水了) and Friends


●Ero Alone Doesn't Sell Anymore!



——Hara-san's (原*) article in 'Fusion' (ふゅーじょん) was a catalyst, and while up until then, attention had been focused on specific fanzines like 'Cybele' (シベール) and 'Myaa-kan' (ミャア官), it started to turn people's attention to the so-called Lolicon stuff in general.
※Hara Maruta is an alternate penname for Shimizu Kazuo (志水一夫), an important figure whose articles and talks I translated earlier in this thread.

——No, more than that, 'Cybele' suddenly disappeared, and people were experiencing a kind of withdrawal symptom (laughs). Then Hara-san's article came out, and that set the direction, I believe.

——To some extent, it feels like it was only a matter of time before this would happen.

——And then for a while, it seemed like any book of that nature would sell.

——Did it feel that way throughout 82?

——It felt that way to me.

——Actually, the time before that article in 'Fusion' came out, thinking back on it now, was more like the boom's prehistory.

——Hara-san likely never expected things to turn out like this.

——Yeah.

——And then things changed rapidly afterwards.

——The unexpected impact of Hara-san's article was that it only introduced the contents in text. And only 'Cybele', which was at the top of the list at the time, was introduced. So, I hate to say it, but it seems it gave people who hadn't seen the real thing high expectations. But when they went to sales events, or Comiket, they found out only a small portion of the people there were talented (laughs).

——In other words, for a time, around the end of 82, it felt like pretty much anything ero would sell.

——Yeah, it did.

——Then, in the middle of 83, the quantity expanded significantly, and now it's no longer the case anything ero would sell.

——No, before that with the launch of 'Lemon People' (レモン・ピープル) in the spring of 82, the artists who drew the so-called Lolicon fanzines made their professional debuts. So, by the end of 82, the A Team of artists left, so to speak, and it was like there's only the B Team left. So there was a sudden drop in quality.

——Yeah, but that period has passed.

——It's long passed. Now we're in a bit of a second golden age.

——So the first golden age was around the time when 'Cybele' ceased publication.

——Yeah.

——After all, the volume has expanded so much that mediocre stuff doesn't sell anymore.

——I also couldn't buy all of it, so this is just an estimate, but if I had bought all of that stuff, it would've cost me roughly at least 50,000~60,000 yen.


●Sales Events Accelerated the Boom!!


——The growth of these sales events is essential when talking about Lolicon fanzines.

——What do you mean?

——In short, you can no longer take your time browsing fanzines. In the case of Comiket, you have to visit about 3,000 participants in just under 5 hours, from 11:00 to 4:00. That means less than 6 seconds per Circle. Of course, this is significantly reduced for Comic Square (コミック・スクウェア) and Mini-Comic Fair (ミニコミ・フェア), which have fewer than 1,000 Circles, but considering each Circle publishes an average of two or three types of books, it still comes down to less than 10 seconds per zine. In any case, it's impossible to look carefully and choose. So, books that are easy to determine value at a glance sell well.

——Any examples?

——Anime parodies are one example of this. Of course, there are many other factors, but in the case of original zines, a 'miss' is just a 'miss', but in the case of anime parodies, it's at least worth it if it has your favourite character in it. And you can tell just by looking what anime characters it features, or how good the illustrations are.

——It's certainly a safer bet than original-zines and critique-zines, which are neither from the sea nor from the mountains.

——And there's something like that in the so-called Lolicon fanzines as well. You can tell just by looking at them the quality of the illustrations and the content.

——I see.

——I believe the so-called fanzine brand-oriented are also an extension of that. As we discussed earlier, there are as many books in the same genre as at other local sales events. With limited time and money, it's not surprising people want to buy things that were featured in commercial magazines and have a good reputation.

——People in other regions don't know how crazy the Tokyo sales events are. The ones that are known are only the ones by talented people who are featured in commercial magazines, so they think that the level in Tokyo must be very high, and they put in a lot of effort.

——There are exceptions, but it seems like the events in other regions are run by people with stable talent. Of course, not everyone in Tokyo believes ero-stuff will sell.

——It feels like a challenge to a certain genre. It's full of spirit.

——It seems people like that are surprised when they come to Comiket for the first time.

——Everything's so crazy (laughs).


●The Naïveté of Dangerous Doujin


——Speaking of crazy, some so-called Lolicon fanzines demand pretty high prices because they're selling well.

——I could understand if original-type Circles were doing it to prevent losses.

——For original works, it's up to them to set the price however they like, but with anime-parodies, it's basically someone else's work. If they don't think about it a little more, it could become a disaster.

——Copyright holders (those who own the character usage rights, i.e. original authors, production companies, etc.) are only 'tolerating' it; in other words, they're 'looking the other way'.

——Some think it's fine because it's a fanzine, but that only applies if it's a relatively small membership-based publication that's distributed only to members (this can be interpreted as 'private use' under copyright law, although there are differing opinions on this), and it can't be applied to something that's sold in broad daylight to an unspecified number of people.

——It seems there have been cases in the past where people have been forced to pay compensation or even ended up in court due to doujin activities.

——However, speaking of scary things, the issue of obscenity is even scarier. It's national law after all.

——But the standards for obscenity aren't clear. Things that were previously unthinkable are now openly appearing in commercial magazines.

——There seems to be a lot of complicated circumstances surrounding this. Well, looking at the examples of vinyl bookshops and lover banks (brothels), it seems it won't be a good idea to openly appear in major media in the future.

——They need to be quiet to the bitter end (laughs).

——That's aside from being introduced by others without permission.

——Ah, aren't there people who get angry about that? People who get reprinted without permission? If you listen to them carefully, it's a kind of naïveté that believes doujinshi are special. Well, it's out of the question when they copy a manga from a fanzine and publish it without the artist's permission, like a certain company's Lolicon doujinshi anthology.

——The details of that incident are unclear, partly because the mangaka-san in question has passed away, but it seems they simply asked for permission and then published it, mistaking it for official permission. The owner of the doujinshi must have been very upset because it was reprinted in a commercial magazine even though they still had stock for the fanzine.

——That's out of the question, but quoting parts to introduce something is normal, and if you don't like that, then don't turn it into a fanzine and sell it to an unspecified number of people for money in the first place. Just pass around copies of the manuscript among your friends. It's not that easy to publish an unpublished manuscript like that.

——But the people who say that are the ones who know about it and submit sample copies to sales events where the media can use them. Are they stupid (laughs)?

——They don't understand the meaning of publishing something in book form and releasing it to society. They're totally insecure (laughs).

——Many of them don't even have a proper colophon.

——And yet they have a big, bold 'no reproduction without permission' written on them (laughs).

——Speaking of those ignorant of honour, fanzines with a lot of reprints are becoming more and more noticeable these days.

——Well, if you're going to reprint something, there's a way to do it. You just have to indicate the original publication and make it clear it's a reprint. Doing it without permission is not allowed.

——Reprinting without permission is prohibited (laughs)!

——Well, I don't think this lawless state will last forever. I have a bad feeling that some outside force will come into play.

——It's a fact of life things tend to fall apart right when they're at their peak.

——I'm worried (laughs).

——Well, that's it for now.


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Lolicon Doujinshi Previews Accompanying the Above Two Articles

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This is the Lolicon F・Z that Sells Like Hotcakes!!


Design: Hara Maruta (原丸太) (aka Shimizu Kazuo [志水 一夫]) (Wiki)
Composition: Akagi Akira (赤木旭)
Illustrations: Takatoo Fumi (たかとおふみ) (Twitter)

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Cover and Circle Cut: Lolic (ロリック)

Cover


For the cover, skilfully draw a cute girl. At Comiket, no one takes the time to skim through books, so the cover is the deciding factor. Make sure it catches people's attention. However, it's best to avoid anything extreme.

The title logo looks better if it's properly lettered. A plain white or black cover is very Lolicon.


Comiket Catalogue

The catalogue is the benchmark, so attractively draw a cute girl. If you don't draw the cover and catalogue well, it will have a major impact on sales.

However, it might be better to include the whole body rather than a face facing left. It's easier to remember if you avoid English letters for your Circle and zine names.


Manga

If you include a parody of Urusei Yatsura, it will sell to collectors of that kind. Anime parodies are also very popular. Memole will do her best for the winter Comiket, but the big question is how well you can draw characters two-heads tall. So-called original manga should not be published in your FZ if you're hoping for sales.


Illustrations

It's common to have what we call the one girl on one page for no reason. Very conventional. Mecha and Shoujo will continue to be popular, but drawing mecha in a cool way is especially important. Vulcan cannons, L-Gaim-style suspensions, and tubes are likely to remain popular.


Porno

Porno sells. The difference between someone who can draw cute characters and someone who can draw something obscene that doesn't match the cute character is the lewdness, I mean charm. So, unless you're very talented, drawing porno is pathetic. It's better to have some beauty in the erotic appeal. In the case of anime characters, you especially want to handle them beautifully.


Text Page

When bound on the right, the standard is vertical text, and when bound on the left, it's horizontal text. Short texts, like essays, are more popular than novels. If they're accompanied by illustrations, even better. Handwriting should be neat and balanced as much as possible. A book with good details is a good book overall.


Table of Contents/Colophon

This should be done carefully. The table of contents is often written last, so it's easy to let your guard down and scribble it haphazardly. However, this should be laid out nicely. The basic rule for the colophon is to include the publisher's address, name, and date.

※The number of pages and price of a book are directly proportional, but for Lolicon FZ, it is proportional to the quality of the illustrations and how lewd they are. If it's good and ero, it can sell for 3 to 10 times the original value, but it's safer to keep it within the 300 to 500 yen ballpark. If it's over 500 yen, people will hesitate to buy it.



There are people making a living by creating doujinshi, and these are called 'doujinshi artists' and 'doujinshi millionaires', but for now, we won't question whether this is right or wrong. But if I may speak personally, I don't like it.

Anyway, there is a certain tendency for popular Lolicon (lewd) doujinshi, and to describe it simply, if someone with some skill draws a porno version of Urusei Yatsura, with Lum and friends just doing lewd things, the book will sell. It's fine to have no story at all, just a bunch of nyan-nyan, porn that would make even the Uchuu Kikaku mainstream videos look tame in comparison.

It's up to you whether to create those kinds of porno doujinshi, and it's true we buy them without thinking, even if it's a 20~30 page flipbook being sold for an outrageous price of 600 to 700 yen.

However, I hope the creator side doesn't forget they're investing in the artist's skill, not the ero aspect. If I may say so, even if they make a living from doujinshi, their future is not a bright one.

Erotic illustrations and manga of cute girls are what most guys (especially those coming to Comiket) enjoy. Isn't it too easy to use that to make a book? Just as vinyl books progressed to underground books, and then mainstream videos changed to underground videos, if we continue in this direction, we will only become more and more extreme.

It is already meaningless to expect doujinshi to be 'doujin', a word that was popular in the 1960s, but we still want to be fascinated by the freedom of doujinshi and create them.

In any case, we are wandering the realm of Lolicon FZ today in search of unknown artists.

(Akira)


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There's almost a dozen things I could talk about in regards to previous articles, and things that have happened, and are happening.

For now, I'm going to comment on my foray into the search results involving 'Lolicon Boom' in English. I noticed several westerners have been repeating for months and months that Clarisse and her animated movie started the Lolicon Boom (if Miyazaki Hayao was dead, he would be rolling in his grave). This isn't true, and I have no idea why these people are saying this and repeating it without checking to make sure they got their facts straight. This is more annoying than this nonsense I read where a Loli is apparently 'a small in stature moe girl' repeated ad nauseam by westerners (this is a gross misunderstanding of both Loli and Moe that has no Japanese resources to back it up).

A couple months ago, one of my friends (let's call him zzfear), the one sent me the clip by the Japanese comedian earlier, also linked a video he found called 'An Incomplete History of ℍ𝕖𝕟𝕥𝕒𝕚' by a user called Lextorias. The video is long, but Lextorias opted to use Bishoujo Boom as a substitute word for Lolicon Boom, and he repeated the sort of timeline that annoyed Kimi Rito with another 'Hentai History' article that sloppily goes from Shunga to tentacles to ero-anime:


I commented on Lextorias video, and he wanted me to provide him sources for some of my criticisms, one of which is him saying the first Lolita Anime was based on a manga published in Lemon People. This is incorrect; the first episode was based on a comic published in Erogenica, but Lextorias showed me the source for his comment from the English wikipedia repeating what he said in the video, which brings me to the most important I want to express.

The English Wikipedia Lolicon entry, and the entries for most anything tertiarily related to it, are absolute rubbish! Don't use these English things as a source for your articles and videos! Toss them into the rubbish bin and use Japanese things for your sources (while there are mistakes on the JP side, they're going to be relatively minor so long as you don't reference summary books like the ones by Okada Toshio where he started an error about the origins of Moe that were perpetuated by many other authors who didn't bother to fact check him).

zzfear told me I should make my own video series, but I suck at doing summaries. And I have no idea how to edit a video (I would rather people like ErmieAnime or Lextorias, who can easily get ten thousand views, be the ones to do something like this). Also, I make mistakes myself; I wrote the name for the Fusion Product moderator as Takato years ago, and only now found out it should be Takahito (I wrote his name correctly for the Ogata Katsuhiro talk, but I still referenced the first post to incorrectly apply it to the Hirukogami Ken interview). I have no one else to proofread my translations, and it was only a couple weeks ago that Moetan became the first person since the creation of this thread to inform me of mistakes I made; in the previous article, I incorrectly said Paul-chan scanned Cybele Vol.0 (Paul-chan scanned Comic Critique Vol.0 and Cybele Vol.1).

Like if someone wanted to create a history on Otaku, they would need to start with Hirukogami Ken, Japan's first Otaku (a perfect clickbait title that is actually true) and a former Christian who Azuma Hideo said was both a Lolicon and a paedophile, and that marrying a fat woman cured Hirukogami of both Sicknesses (
Hirukogami Ken's fat wife died recently). Click the link! That's to the online edition of Manga no Techou that was recently started by Fujimoto Takahito, who is still alive and well (when I started this thread, I had no idea what happened to him).

Though the topic of me doing a video series does make me wonder if it is possible for others to crowd fund my translation efforts. If each of Lextorias's viewers gave me an American quarter every month, I could do these translations full time. That way I can translate Kawamoto Kouji's book, Yonezawa Yoshihiro's books, Hirukogami Ken's book, Azuma Hideo's book, and so on. Maybe then, someone could create a video series about these topics that is remotely accurate.


However, that would be expecting too much from the western anime fandom who has had 40 years to crowdfund higher paygrade translators to do this sort of thing. Perhaps we should start small, maybe a donation pool for a new scanner and a larger external hard-drive so I can archive the unscanned books and magazines I own?

In any case, let's end this post by my desire to discover this doujin mentioned in Comic Box Jr. (プチアリスティラス by 水岐れい); I want to read the SF catgirl manga.

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Moetan showed me a reprinted article in a gay-shota-themed doujinshi originally written by Nagayama Kaoru in 1990, and I decided to dedicate a post to him, while skipping ahead in the timeline to the 1990s after the Miyazaki Tsutomu Incident. Nagayama wrote the book 'Ero-manga Studies' (エロマンガ・スタディーズ) in 2006, which Patrick Galbraith translated and published in 2020 as 'Erotic Comics in Japan: An Introduction to Eromanga', which costs 156 USD for the hardcover edition. The original book in Japanese only costs 990 JPY (6.60 USD). In one of Patrick's other books, he said his publishers are responsible for the absurd prices of his books, and he tried to push hard to make ones like 'Moe Manifesto' accessible for the common man, but was unable to do the same for Nagayama's opinionated book.

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Nagayama Kaoru is still alive and posts on Twitter (he even commented on the Hentai thread I posted a while back). I personally didn't know much about Nagayama Kaoru's past. I own his book (in Japanese) and didn't really think much of it. But he has written articles for the infamous 'Hey!Buddy', 'Crash', and 'Hot Milk!' in the 1980s. So, I would like to one day obtain his older articles to understand him better as a human being. One of the reasons is because after certain incidents, there's a strong incentive for Otaku to respond with what can only be described as 'damage control'. The opinions in the 1980s are different from the opinions from the 1990s, and opinions in the 1990s are different from the 2000s. I only understand Kaoru's opinions in the 2000s, and after translating these articles, I understand his opinions in the 1990s. But now I want his opinions in the 1980s when he was the closest to the 'abyss'.

Because of the severe lack of knowledge I've seen posted on the western internet regarding the 'abyss', I decided to translate an article by Aoyama Masaaki regarding the actual history for the 'Lolicon Boom' from the same book as one of Nagayama Kaoru's articles. I skipped this article a couple years ago because I wanted to focus on manga and anime related articles to correct misinformation on that side, but considering the completely incorrect things I've been reading where clueless western anime-fans embarrassingly respond to western 'anti-Lolicon', who unearthed the Japanese wikipedia on the abyss of Lolicon history, the ones mocking others for being unable to separate fiction from reality are in actuality, truly, completely, and utterly the ones who cannot separate fiction from reality, misunderstanding and misusing articles written by Patrick Galbraith and Saitou Tamaki, who are being treated like religious head priests, to create a fictional canon for a pathetic anime religion. Like the person on the 4th page of his thread pooping on the floor and embarrassing himself for perhaps all of eternity. As Ootsuka Eiji said, we need to drink the bitter tea along with the sediment floating in it. Otaku is NOT beautiful.

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Table of Contents:
●Bessatsu Takarajima 112: Men Are in Danger!? (1990)
★The Secret of 'Bishoujo Comic' (Nagayama Kaoru)
●Takarajima30: Lolita Period (1994)

"Busty Lolita" is a Symbol of Gaki Culture! (Nagayama Kaoru)
★Comics Lolita Best 10 (Yamada Takashi)

Adventures in Lolita: Art or Crime? Fantasy or Delusion—? (Aoyama Masaaki)
Extra: Hentai-san and Criminal 'True Lolicon Legends' (Aoyama Masaaki)
Confessions of a Frigid Ma
n (2005)
Chapter 4: Delving into the Psychology of Men with “Lolita Complexes” (Morioka Masahiro)




Source:『別冊宝島112 男が危ない!?』 1990/06/09
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Transformation of Pornography
The Secret of 'Bishoujo Comic'


Lolicon Manga is a 'new pornography for a new generation by a new generation'. As a result of the collapse of the giant male dominance fantasy that has existed since the dawn of history, what has been discovered is many more forms of eros other than the sexual intercourse actively performed by men!

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By Nagayama Kaoru (永山薰) (Wiki) (Twitter)
(Manga Critic)



"All the characters are cute, aren't they?" The editor of Bessatsu Takarajima says as he visited for a meeting.

It's true those who've never been particularly interested in ero-gekiga, or have an image of third-rate gekiga (that it's dark, dirty, immoral, and cheap), are more or less surprised by the 'cuteness of the artstyle' when they examine 'modern ero-manga' magazines.

The world of 'ero-manga' has changed drastically in the past ten years. You could even call it a storm of change.


●The Revolution Drama from Third-rate Gekiga to Bishoujo Manga


'Ero(Kannou)-Gekiga', which was popular among some during the 'Third-rate Gekiga Struggle' from the late 1970s to the early 1980s, has been relegated to a fringe genre, just like Pink Film, and now the mainstream is the so-called 'light, bright, and cute' Bishoujo Manga (we call it this for convenience only; in reality, it's not so sweet that we can generalise it with such a name).

There's almost no gekiga-touch there, except for parodies. Instead, the mainstream is the artstyle of anime, shoujo manga, shounen manga, and Moebius (a giant in the French comic world, who influenced Ootomo Katsuhiro [大友克洋], Fujiwara Kamui [藤原カムイ], and Itabashi Shuuhou [板橋しゅうほう] to name a few). So if you examine just the art, especially the covers, it's not much different from all-age magazines.

Of course, gekiga magazines still exist today. Masters and popular artists, such as Dirty Matsumoto (ダーティ松本) (I suspect Matsumoto was the first to bring shoujo manga drawing techniques to the ero-gekiga world), Sanjou Tomomi (三条友美、), and Tomita Shigeru (富田茂), are alive and well. Sometimes, unique artists like Hayami Jun (早見純) appear. However, one editor-in-chief said the following.

"Gekiga-type is difficult. For Bishoujo-type, you can make a profit even if you make it A5 and more expensive, but gekiga is difficult even if you make it smaller and cheaper."

He said this about two years ago, but recently, I heard the same from another editor-in-chief. "Kannou Gekiga, you see, sells well in magazines, but the tankoubon don't sell. In that respect, it's similar to Lady's Comic. In other words, both of these adult-oriented erotica are read and discarded. It's youngsters who think about saving their tankoubon to reread them."

It's not possible to concretely prove how 'successful' Bishoujo Manga is commercially. However, I can present some evidence. First, the proliferation of Bishoujo Manga magazines. The monthly magazines I can recall at present are Penguin Club (ペンギンクラブ) (Tatsumi Publishing), Hot Milk (ホットミルク) (Byakuya Shobo), Loli-Touch (ロリタッチ) (Tokyo Sansei-sha), and Cotton Club (コットンクラブ) and Lemon People (レモン・ピープル) (Amatoria-sha), a total of ten magazines. If you add bimonthly magazines and regular anthologies in tankoubon format, there are easily a dozen or so. Their official circulation is said to be at most 140,000 copies, with magazines averaging at the tens of thousands (although editors in the know say in reality the higher end is in the tens of thousands with an average of 10,000 to 20,000 copies). In any case, compared to the Shonen Jump empire, they are like regional feudal lords on the outskirts. However, they should not be underestimated simply because they share a small circulation. This is because magazines also serve as a 'vessel for securing artists', and they can make a living publishing tankoubon by the artists they secured.

If it's a popular artist, reprints of their books can easily exceed tens of thousands of copies. According to a skilled and exhibitionistic editor. "No matter how unknown a newcomer is, if they can draw girls cutely, ten-thousand copies is easy."


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Various Bishoujo Comic magazines. As their number of copies are small, many general bookshops do not stock them.


I've also heard ten-thousand copies is almost the break-even point. It's certainly not a profitable business. For that reason, some take it for granted any newcomer can simply put together a tankoubon of their work, and if they don't have enough material, they'll add their doujinshi work (often by current or former members of the fandom), and if that's still not enough, they'll pad it out with guest work.

I've been writing comic reviews for 'Hot Milk' magazine for the past two years, and this publishing rush has been going on since the summer of 1989 until now (1990 March). It's astonishing an average of 20 tankoubon are published per month, even though it's not a very big genre.

"There are some mangaka-san who say they saved up enough for a volume, so please publish a tankoubon. However, if they don't have the skill and popularity, there's no point in publishing them, and even if it sells a little, I doubt it'll benefit them in the long run..."

A frowning editor says the above, but it seems certain there's a boom in anything that sells, no matter what they publish. However, what does this revolution drama from Third-rate Gekiga to Bishoujo Manga really mean?


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Early Lolicon Doujinshi


●A Generation Extremely Weak to Cuteness



Around ten years ago, the 'Third-rate Gekiga Struggle' was in full swing. During this struggle, third-rate gekiga gained momentum as a kind of counter culture, and many talents were sent out into the world.

However, the rise of third-rate gekiga came to an abrupt end due to the intervention of the authorities and the successive suspension and closure of magazines that were the mainstream of the 'movement'. Nevertheless, several artists emerged from this period to become the core of the Lolicon Boom. Representatives of this (although some may disagree) include Uchiyama Aki (内山亜紀), who would later be called the emperor of the Lolicon manga world that deliberately depicted a Youjo taste and a diaper interest, Taniguchi Kei (谷口敬), who drew mostly non-sexual Bishoujo in a lyrical sense, and Nakajima Fumio (中島史雄), who changed his style from his previous gekiga-touch to his current artstyle.

And, around the same time, Lolicon doujinshi such as 'Youjo Fancier' (幼女嗜好) by Hirukogami Ken (蛭児神健), 'Cybele' (シベール) presided by Azuma Hideo (吾妻ひで), and 'Doll Princess' (人形姫) by Senno Knife (千乃ナイフ) were gaining popularity among the fandom. Then, in the early 1980s, the first Lolicon Manga magazine 'Lemon People' (レモン・ピープル) was launched.

So why did Third-rate Gekiga slip away from its position as the leader of 'manga as pornography'?

Orthodox Kannou Gekiga is basically a word where the sexual acts of mature men and women are highlighted with a gekiga-touch. Their stories and worldview are not so important. What's important is how aroused young male readers get from the lewd depictions of 'intertwining men and women'. There were some great artists, and there were (and still are) some 'expressionists' whose selling point wasn't their ability to elicit erections. And to support this was a vague editorial sense that 'anything goes as long as there was a minimum amount of ero' (this was perhaps the reason the Gekiga-type and Lolicon-type genres were able to coexist on the same pages for a while). However, the majority of the pages (though I'm reluctant to generalise them as such) were 'wank material (for masturbation)' works that prioritised genital union, and that's still the case today.

There was no free and abundant ero there. All that existed was the narrow-minded and rigid male-chauvinistic (male-dominated fantasy) machismo mythology of 'a man is only a man if he makes a woman squirm', 'all men have rape desire, and all women have victim desire', and 'a virgin man with a virgin woman is half a man' are the symbolised and stale concepts of 'sexual intercourse'. Naturally, these old sensibilities were also reflected in illustrations. This phenomenon can be said to be true throughout the adult manga market, but from the late 1970s to early 1980s, the Gekiga (Baby Boomers and Zenkyoutou [全共闘]) generation was aging, and the traditional gekiga-touch, the styles and sensibilities of the old masters, were out-of-touch with the tastes of the younger generation that followed. Major publishers responded to this situation by welcoming new generations of artists one after another, and later launched new magazines with 'Young' in the title to separate the generations, but the small-capital ero-gekiga completely missed the boat.

In contrast, Lolicon Manga has from the beginning been based on anime and shounen (shoujo) manga with neat and adorable illustrations aimed towards a 'younger demographic', and has featured Youjo and Shoujo instead of 'mature women and men' engaging in lewd acts in SF, fantasy, love comedies, and parodies.

'Art as cuteness' is strong after all. For the generations younger than the baby boomer generation, 'cute' is the highest compliment, and the 'dark, muscular, and sweaty' things represented by gekiga were laughable. Ootsuka Eiji (大塚英志) called it 'Kawaii Culture' (Shoujo Minizokugaku [少女民俗学] Kobunsha [光文社]), and what I call 'Kawaii Syndrome' (now becoming the standard for value judgments across all generations) also permeated the world of pornography. Furthermore, leaving aside editors, the artists are from the anime and manga generation that were baptised by the 'Flower Year 24 Group Shoujo Manga' and fanatical towards Yamato and Gundam, and the readers were from a generation that were dyed in the wool by anime and manga since the day they were born. It's no surprise they had a weakness to cute things.


●There's more to 'Lewdness' than Genital Union!


Even in such Lolicon Manga magazines, the golden rule of 'anything goes' from Third-rate Gekiga still lives on. While the 'Crude Freedom' turned into shackles and many Gekiga turned to easy and hackneyed sexual supremacy, Lolicon Manga rejected its 'Escape from Freedom'.

This is because early artists, especially, had the confidence and ability to 'draw what they liked', and from an ironic point of view, they thought, "It doesn't matter if they fail; if push comes to shove, they can just change jobs and draw manga for doujinshi."

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Left: From Morino Usagi's (森野うさぎ) latest Work 'O・MAN (SYSTEM GZZY), a representative of the 'Mecha and Bishoujo' line.
Middle: From Taniguchi Kei's (谷口敬) 'Uwagoto' (うわごと) (published in 'Water Play' [水の戯れ] by Tokyo Sanseisha), one of the most representative early Lolicon manga. A lyrical, sexless work; simply Shoujo running through the fields.
Right: From Senno Knife's (千之ナイフ) early work 'Mechanical Zashiki Shoujo' (からくり座敷の少女) (published in 'Night Princess' [夜姫] by Kubo Shoten). It has a strong scent of underground aestheticism.


Perhaps there's a certain 'ease' in that. Yes, they were not desperate. Behind them was the fertile field of a vast fandom on the verge of taking off.

As a result, each mangaka began to build their own unique and irreplaceable world. Bored of the stories that were nothing more than clichéd side-dishes that dominated the majority of ero-gekiga (for example, one about a stupid university girl, with a voluptuous and muscular body, going mushroom hunting and getting raped by a local muscle guy, but ends up feeling good and going at it until the guy is exhausted) and the strangely elaborate depictions of sex (a theory to use an entire double-page spread), I couldn't help but sigh at the freshness when I first saw their work.

A half-naked Bishoujo flies through space on a clunky mecha (Morino Usagi and others), a mechanical doll girl is controlled by a demon and moves robotically (Senno Knife), anime characters perform a series of indiscriminate gags (Makimura Miki [牧村みき]), a girl in a diaper is toyed with by a strange geezer (Uchiyama Aki), a monster that looks like it came out of a pulp magazine from the 1950s attacks a girl with its wriggling tentacles (Azuma Hideo and others). There's also a glorification of the past. However, it is an undeniable fact the Lolicon Manga of the time was full of the kind of 'all aspects of manga' that was vulgar, powerful, and absurd, like a toy box turned upside down. And it had a polymorphous and rich spread of eros that cannot be lumped together under the narrow term Lolicon.

This is perhaps the reason why Lolicon Manga was able to usurp the throne of porno manga from Third-rate Gekiga. The eros of destitute gekiga, which had been dominated by the narrow-minded myth of machismo, localised to the genitals, was reborn in the guise of 'Lolicon'.

And readers, consciously or unconsciously, sensed the collapse of the macho fantasy, and had already acquired the ability to acknowledge, accept, and enjoy the fact there's more to 'lewdness' than genital union. They were beginning to realise there's not just one set of values regarding sex, but there are many different values.

This could be seen as a 'change in the sexual consciousness of the younger generation', but I see it more as a manifestation of the eruption of a radical and polymorphous eros caused by the collapse of the collective fantasy that had previously bound a sense that was supposed to be inherently free.

In short, Lolicon Manga was not 'maniac ero-manga for Lolicon', but rather a 'new pornography by a new generation for a new generation'.


●Everyone has a Lolicon Element!


However, Lolicon Manga soon began to change. Young, flat-chested Youjo body-type characters gradually became the minority, and instead, so-called Bishoujo characters with mature bodies (and especially developed busts) and young faces (represented by Watanabe Wataru [わたなべわたる]) began to dominate.

Many people look at this strange development and tilt their heads, and some have come up with all sorts of strange reasons for it, but in my opinion, it's 'simply because true Lolicon were in the minority'. Let me repeat, Lolicon Manga magazines were not maniac magazines to begin with.

Everyone has a Lolicon element. Those who believe they don't are ignorant of themselves, and are probably too tied to the illusion that 'genital union between mature men and women is normal'.

As a monkey who has broken their instincts, human desire, or eros, is complex and diverse, and when beautifully expressed, it is as multifaceted as a brilliant-cut diamond. This is not limited to Lolicon, but also to groups generally labelled abnormal or Hentai, it just so happens one of their many desires stands out, and it just so happens to not be 'the union between male and female genitals'.

However, people who desire nothing but Youjo are actually a very small minority; when you look at the creators and readers of Lolicon magazines, the preference for such is the same percentage as the general population.

When you consider it that way, it's only natural the heroine's busts are swollen and they turned into 'Voluptuous Bishoujo'. For the majority of readers and creators, who are not true Lolicon, there was no obligation or need to justify having sex with Youjo, which is 'unrealistic' in the sense it would be a 'crime' to engage in such in real life. Of course, no matter how extreme and antisocial it may be, everyone is free to fantasise, and everyone is free to express themselves. The rest is a personal issue. Even if it makes public opinion and modern laws their enemy, that's just the way it is. But can you really go all the way with something you're not serious about, that you don't really like? When given the choice between a Youjo and Bishoujo, one is bound to choose the 'stable majority' option. No matter how free the fantasy, it's easier to get into a situation where the heroine is a Shoujo of sexual age or older. It's no wonder girls-next-door, classmates, and older Onee-sans, who are close to the reader's age, are popular. They're not serious when they're jumping on the boom and pretending to be Lolicon. A slightly ecchi love comedy from a shounen magazine with more sexual depictions is more refreshing to swallow. I cannot say for certain the production side didn't have any intention of appealing to maniacs from the beginning, but it's natural for a commercial magazine to go in a direction that is popular with the general public rather than stick to something that appeals to only maniacs.

For true Lolicon, it was truly a revolution that betrayed them, but for the majority of readers, it was a democratising coup that said, "Now we can enjoy it without feeling guilty." In short, Lolicon was the keyword that opened up a new world of pornography, but once the door was opened, the key was no longer needed.

A few years ago, the editor-in-chief of a Lolicon pictorial magazine reminisced as follows, based on a reader survey that received over 700 responses.

"The conclusion we reached after three years was that Lolicon = Slits. No information or plan can beat a single slit. Most readers were perverts who couldn't help but want to see genitalia." (From the editor's note in the final issue of 'Hey!Buddy' 1985 November. By the way, up until that time, 'hairless Youjo slits' were not considered obscene.)


●Is 'Being Unable to Have Sex with a Real Woman' a Problem?


And so, Lolicon died, and before anyone noticed, the era of Bishoujo Manga (this convenient term was already in use in 1985) had arrived. It's true even now there are artists who draw characters with Youjo body-types, and even among manga critics and ero-industry editors, who should know better, are those who continue to use the term 'Lolicon Manga' as a convenient symbol to refer to the 'ero-manga for today's youth'. However, the reality is that it no longer has the numbers or power to be recognised as an independent genre.

But this fact is mostly ignored at the mass media level. It would be fine if they used 'Lolicon' as a symbolised term while knowing the reality (although I wish they would take it to heart), but it seems ignorant media people, who hardly read manga (and even if they do, it's at most seinen magazines for the baby boomer generation), still want to believe there's a genre called Lolicon Manga.

"Lolicon → Otaku → A Clumsy Young Man Who Doesn't Like Real Women."

Isn't this the kind of equation that's formed in their heads? It's not interesting if it's a perverted young man, but if they're some useless young bastard who cannot have sex with a woman, they can turn it into a funny story and even smugly make it into a problem. It's fine to exaggerate a little; they're just kids with no say anyway.

I'm sure there are Lolicon among today's readers of Bishoujo manga. I don't believe there aren't 2D-con who aren't actually interested in the opposite sex. However, to the group of people who are convinced this is the whole picture of readers, I shall ask, "Show me some solid evidence."

I want to see convincing statistics, not individual cases. Otherwise, these groups should stop flippantly saying, "It looks like the number of young men who cannot date real girls is increasing and it's becoming a problem." Or, "There's a lot of shoujo manga-style or anime-style ero-manga aimed towards 2D-con Ota-bastards who are bad with real women." Let me be honest with you, these people are mocking our youth.

If there is actual evidence and it is truly a problem (including who is making it a problem and how), we could have a deeper discussion, but if there's no basis, we need to take issue with the structure of the mass media and journalism that fosters such comments.

I, myself, will confess I once made a comment of this sort carelessly, and I still feel ashamed.

But if you think about it calmly, is 'being unable to have sex with real women' really such a big problem?


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From Tomimoto Tatsuya's (富本たつや) personal-zine 'Surface Tension' (表面張力) that shocked the fandom. Tomimoto Tatsuya and Makimura Miki (牧村みき) were pioneers of bizarre and bondage.


●The Discriminatory Macho Worship Lurking Behind the 'Immature Youth' Argument



Now then, it's finally the age of Bishoujo Manga. Basically, today's Bishoujo Manga is an extension of 'Perverted Lolicon Manga'.

More than in the days of Lolicon Manga, every genre is covered, including SF (from pulp to cyberpunk), fantasy (from Fairy Märchen works to pseudo-Heroic RPGs), horror, splatter, violence, mystery, campus love comedies, coming-of-age stories, slapstick, pure literature, experimental works, period dramas, parodies, and more. Sexual acts include sexual intercourse between mature men and women (many believe it doesn't exist, but it does!), rape, incest, masturbation, lesbianism, homosexuality, SM, bondage (North American-style Bondage Hobby), scatology, transvestism (TV), transsexuals (TS), shemales (men who have been feminised everywhere except their genitals), hermaphroditism, and various fetishes and so on, making it seem like the table of contents for a 'popular sexual psychology book'. As soon as the Macho God died, it was if Pandora's box had suddenly been opened beneath its feet.

This may come as a shock to people who believe that 'normal sex' is healthy genital intercourse between healthy adult men and women in a healthy missionary position with healthy consent after a healthy relationship, but things get complicated when these perfectly healthy idiots start spouting things like, "Let's investigate the reality of the porno-manga craze that's spreading among the youth and analyse the sexual awareness of the current youth." You have the freedom (and right) to look away, so please look away.

I almost exploded with anger, but the fact is the 'abnormal sex' I just listed are a very small minority, excluding old-fashioned staples like rape, lesbianism, and masturbation (is that a relief?). If you really want to look for it, you can find it.

However, the reason why acts that were once only seen in magazines for maniacs or sexual psychology are now depicted so explicitly in manga magazines aimed towards 'ordinary perverts' is that there has been an internal change on the part of both the sender and receiver.

Of course, it's not like there's been an increase in the people who prefer 'abnormal sex'. It's not that more young people can no longer distinguish between fantasy and reality. Rather, it's the opposite. I believe more mature people are able to enjoy porn as a kind of entertainment, separate from reality. As a result of the collapse of the Giant Male Dominance (rape is the best), more and more people are realising there is an eros in the world other than the sexual intercourse men actively perform, and that receptors which respond to such polymorphous eros were sleeping within them.

People can accept the tastes and preferences of others, and in some cases discover a new eros within them to enjoy watching. Isn't it prejudice to simply label them as 'immature youngsters'?

I believe that behind the theory of 'immature youngsters', there has always been discriminatory macho worship that supports the image of a 'strong man', and I also believe that is a rigid way of thinking that assumes biological sex differences are untouchable.

The truth lies in neither worthless men nor strong women. Isn't it just people with various faces?


●The 'Bizarre Collection' That Delivered the Coup de Grace to Bishoujo Manga


However, even though I praise Bishoujo Manga, I believe its first golden age is already over.

Even though I, a seasoned manga bastard, exclaimed, "This delivered the Coup de Grace to Bishoujo Manga, and there will never be anything new from now on!" with the success of 'Bizarre Collection ❶' (ビザール・コレクション❶) (Byakuya Shobo. An avant-garde anthology of bizarre and kinky [Hentai] themes such as SM bondage, shemales, shounen-ai, and amputees [a fetish for missing limbs]), and the publication of an anthology on the theme of male masochism 'Queen's Club ❶' (クィーンズクラブ❶) (edited by Mercy Koshiba [メルシー小柴], Sakuramomo Shobo), my perception remains unchanged, even as the 'polymorphous blood' inside me stirs.

One of my reasons for this is that many of the artists I paid attention to have left the world of Bishoujo Manga. We are in a borderless era. Shounen magazines are accepting shoujo manga-style campus love comedies, manga magazines for the younger generation are publishing lewd manga that mimic Bishoujo Manga, and there are slightly ecchi Lady's Comics for women (looking further back, shounen magazines originally had a tradition of ecchi manga with Nagai Go [永井豪] and Yamagami Tatsuhiko [山上たつひこ], and shoujo magazines with Yuzuki Hikaru [弓月光] and the Flower Year 24 Group also delved into sex and eros. In fact, polymorphous eros was hidden in the works of Tezuka Osamu, the father of modern manga). These manga magazines, whose art styles and content have overlapped with each other (especially Young-type comic magazines), have no way of leaving talented young artists alone. Hiromori Shinobu (ひろもりしのぶ), Moriyama Tou (森山塔), Fujiwara Kamui (藤原カムイ), Amamiya Jun (雨宮淳), Nakata Aki (中田雅喜), Okazaki Kyouko (岡崎京子), and others have effectively left the Bishoujo line (some by changing their pennames), and Toshiki Yui (唯登詩樹) has also moved to major magazines under a different name, with some even working for multiple magazines. Some died young and their talents are missed (this is not a tribute to the dead; please take it literally), while others, like Tarumoto Hajime (樽本一), are taking a break from drawing for various reasons.

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A noteworthy artist, Kondoumu (昆童虫), draws fairies dressed in bizarre fashion (from 'Masoch The Frog' in 'Insect Hunter' [インセクト・ハンター] published by Kubo Shoten).


Of course, even now, there are plenty of active artists such as Minor Boy (まいなぁぼぉい), Shiroi Gunpan (白井薫範), SABE, Mayumi Daisuke (真弓大介), DEME, MEE, and Komotoda Emai (小本田絵舞), there are also editors who nurture artists rather than treat them as disposable. But overall, the number of noteworthy and capable artists has decreased.

※❶: Literally translated, it means abnormal. Its origins lie in 'Bizarre', a magazine on the theme of SM and fetishism founded by John Willie, an American editor, photographer, and illustrator in the 1940s. Its aesthetic sense currently has a major influence on the art and fashion worlds.


●Are Readers Freed from the Spell of Macho Fantasy a Minority?



On the other hand, the publishing side is in a 'boom'. As a result, they're thoroughly weeding through young talent in the fandom, and to put it in extreme terms, anyone can make their debut at any time so long as they can 'draw cute Shoujo and ecchi scenes' (in the early days of Lolicon, it was 'if you could draw mecha and Bishoujo'...). In fact, even people who are barely more than beginners and unable to satisfactorily draw neither 'Bishoujo' nor 'Ecchi' can make their debut in commercial magazines if they get the chance. This makes it difficult to do the 'professional work' of carefully selecting artists and works to create a better product.

For example, let's say that after reading this short article, you've become interested and actually try reading a Bishoujo Manga magazine. You, with your keen eye, will surely say something like this.

"The heck? Even though it's called Bishoujo Manga, in the end, it's no different from Kannou Gekiga, only with cute art."

It's scary, but it's true. Today's Bishoujo Manga has fallen into a similar situation to Kannou Gekiga. The ghosts of Macho that should've died are walking around as 'rape stories that only involve rape (or are predictable)' and 'clichéd and convenient stories'. I'm not denying pornography as a practical product. There are cases where it can be great entertainment through pursuing erections. However, many works simply seem to be unable to come up with an interesting story or setting, and are just pursuing erections as a safe line. I read an average of 20 Bishoujo Manga a month, but the majority of them are 'pre-practical' works that are not arousing, but just boring. Can Bishoujo Manga also escape Sturgeon's law that '80% of everything is trash'? With this, it cannot be called 'sexual entertainment', and it's no wonder it's being ridiculed as 'low quality'.

However, the frightening question remains: is this simply a matter of the sender's skill and will? What if this was the 'will of the reader'......? What if the majority of readers are simply perverts who wanted to see the sexual acts of a man and woman joining together.........? Ugh, who the hell was it that first talked about the 'collapse' of the macho myth? Nothing has changed!

It's a sad story, but readers (artists and editors) who have been freed from the spell of the macho fantasy may only be in the minority.


●The 'Desire to Become Shoujo' that Lurks Behind the Obsession Towards 'Bishoujo'


"But why Bishoujo?" asked the editor of Bessatsu Takarajima, tilting his head.

"Maybe they want to become girls." I replied. Of course, I'm not saying all readers (or artists) are like this, or that they're the majority (after all, there are many female artists, and there are female readers as well). But I believe behind this obsession with 'Bishoujo' (in reality, there are plenty of heroines over 18 years old, not just high schoolgirls, and Bishoujo is a trend in other genres as well), there's a kind of 'desire to become a Shoujo' lurking beneath it.


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Left: Oki Yukao (沖由佳雄) is a long-time artist in the style of Azuma Hideo, but he's always cutting-edge. In 1986, he was already drawing a Bishoujo crossdressing manga (from 'A PREY' in 'Be On The Road' [Beおんざろーど] published by Issuisha).
Right: Amamiya Jun is an artist who anticipated the 'desire to become a Shoujo' and 'cute boy fantasy'. Depending on the reader's perspective, it can be read as a serious parody of shoujo manga, or as a satire of ero-manga that only involves sex (From 'Shounen-ki' [少年忌] in 'Flowers Blooming in a Woman's Garden...' [女の園に咲く花は・・・] published by Kubo Shoten).


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A Shounen is loved by an older woman. The artist is a lady poet (女流) Onee. There are quite a few female artists (although the actual number is unknown, many male artists use female names). They may be able to blow a hole in the rigid 'fantasy of men'... (From 'Monroe' [モンロー] published by Byakuya Shobo).

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An elite employee, who was discovered to have a pantyhose fetish. The artist is the female poet Komotoda Emai (小本田絵舞). Many of her works are provocative towards 'social common sense', including men's pride, and she is one of the most noteworthy artists today. (From KARAMAIKU!' published in the 1990 January issue of 'Hot Milk' [ホットミルク] by Byakuya Shobo).


The one who pioneered the depiction of 'desire to become a Shoujo' in the form of fetishism for underwear and leotards, and crossdressing Bishounen in the style of shoujo manga, was Amamiya Jun (雨宮じゅん) from the Bishoujo Manga period, and the one who was the first to publish shemale comics (big breasts and big penis) at the commercial magazine level, heavily influenced by American hardcore and bizarre culture, was Kitamimaki Kei (北御牧慶). Since then, crossdressing, shemales, and hermaphroditism has become standard products for minorities, along with SM and Big Breast Hobbies.

Of course, it's impossible to discuss these things as a whole. There are differences between them that cannot be ignored. However, here I would like to consider them as 'an impulse that goes beyond innate sex' in a broad sense. And isn't this impulse lurking within the whole of Bishoujo Manga (not to the exclusion of other genres and media) in a more diluted form in which a 'Bishoujo appears'.

Some boys, who sensed the collapse of the macho myth and became awakened, also realised the existence of a female ego (anima) within themselves. People who are not awakened may also be aware of this unconsciously. However, this is a little different from simple transsexuality. Not all boys, who awaken to the woman they want to become, actually want to crossdress or have a sex-change. I believe they're merely beginning to recognise the 'self that wants to be a girl' or the 'self that is actually a girl' as one aspect of the 'polymorphous self'. So this is not a tragedy of 'I want to be a girl, but I can never become one'. Know the 'self that is also a girl'. Isn't this a path to the door of a rich perception?


●1990s Ecchi Comics is the Age of 'Cute Boys'


Another point I'd like to make is that there is a noticeable pattern of depicting weak and cute boys. Recent examples include a Bishounen who is forced to dress as a girl by his mother and is sexually toyed with, and a Homo Bishounen who is sexually lynched by girls after being seen kissing the school idol (male).

According to a critic familiar with the fandom, the world of Bishoujo Manga in the late 1980s was a boom in hermaphrodites and shemales, but the 1990s may be entering an era of 'Cute Boys', and signs of this are already beginning to appear here and there at doujinshi sales events.

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From Suzuki Shigeru's (鈴木しげる) 'Boy Hunting' (BOYハンティング) (published by Tokyo Sanseisha 'Black Package'). A Homo Shounen being lynched by girls. The influence of this fantasy of a 'passive self' may be gradually expanding.


These predictions and the emergence of the male masochism line show there is a trend towards 'I want to be a girl' and 'I am a girl', as well as 'I am lovable and weak' and 'I know the pleasure of being passive' (in that sense, Amamiya Jun was the pioneer). What is characteristic of these, apart from gender differences, is the fantasy 'I want to be cute' and 'I want to be loved'. Ten years has passed since the image of the macho man began to fade, and finally, some cutting-edge artists and readers have ventured this far.

And pornography functions most effectively as a device to stimulate the fantasies of such awakened individuals.

If you want to judge pornography by simply looking at just the art, then you can do so. However, pornography and manga are not so naïve. For example, let's say there's pornography that simply depicts a man and a woman having sex. If you look at it without any imagination, bound by social norms and biological 'gender difference fantasy', it's just that. At best, you can analyse it as 'if the viewer is a man, he will project himself onto the male character and enjoy imagining himself making love to the female character'. However, an awakened human can project themselves onto both characters at the same time. There is the 'I' who loves, the 'I' who is loved, and the 'I' who watches them. If you want to call it an autoerotic, autistic pleasure device, go ahead and call it that. But what's wrong with that?

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Left: Not much different from what they're doing with Kannou Gekiga, but who decided Mizushima Eri's (未津島えり) crazy brightness and speed is something dark with the unique vibe and eros of Bishoujo Manga? (From 'Ecchi Home Delivery' [エッチ宅配便] in Tsumamigui Club [つまみ喰い倶楽部] published by Tsukasa Shobo).
Right Yui Toshiki (唯登詩樹) is top class in both drawing ability and popularity. When you reach this level, it becomes absolutely ridiculous to say, "It's Bishoujo Manga, who cares?" (From 'Mixed Date' in 'Uma-uma' [ウマウマ] published by Byakuya Shobo).


When viewed in this way, a different side to 'opportunistic rape stories' can be seen. The awakened boys enjoy the pleasure of the active, criminal, macho, and sadistic male characters depicted in the stories, while at the same time enjoy the pleasure of the passive, weak, masochistic, and helplessly-aroused female characters. Moreover, they know that both characters, setting, and the story are unrealistic. I am not saying all readers are like this. I do not intend to defend the rape line as a whole. However, those who are so unimaginative they cannot even imagine that such awakened readers exist should take a moment to re-examine themselves.

Some have a physiological aversion to rape stories, and some say they are a manifestation of discrimination against women. I do not intend to deny what such people say. I am also happy to use criticism of the rape line as a lever to point out and destroy the macho fantasy.

However, I must say that committing a crime and fantasising about, and enjoying, a crime are completely different issues.


●Ignorance, Prejudice, and Discrimination Surrounding the Bishoujo Manga World


"So, what kind of people are the readers?"

"Hmmm, that's what everybody mass media-related was asking when the Miyazaki Incident happened. Like, 'Who the heck would read something like this!?'."

The editor-in-chief of a certain magazine smiled.

"I haven't met all of my readers, and the ones who write me letters are merely a small portion. From what I've gleamed from reading their letters and speaking to them, I can only describe them as normal manga-loving kids."

"What about the mangaka?"

"When I spoke to M-san and S-san, I believe they're young, albeit mature, but there's a lot of them who are quite childish. They're selfish, they don't work, and they have talent, but it's squandered."

"But creators tend to be childish regardless of age, don't they? I'm also like that. I retired as a mangaka easily. So I thought, manga magazine editors deal with young people, so I believe they need to have a teacher-like feeling where they flatter them, kick them in the butt, and get them to work."

"Yeah, that's what a pro editor once told me. If an editor is male, he's like a Sensei, and if female, she's like a nursery school teacher."

I don't mean to say the above conversation is proof, but it goes without saying that readers, artists, and editors are all normal people. Some of them are bound by fossilised macho fantasies, while others have been awakened. They are all 'ordinary people' with their own unique faces, each with their own twists, worries, joys, hobbies, and tastes. They're not monsters or anything. They're just people who like manga and lewdness.

I'm sick of the ignorance, prejudice, and discrimination surrounding the Bishoujo Manga world. Ignorance is the worst of all. People who have never even read a lot of Bishoujo Manga can talk about anything with just a few documents and interviews. I despise such people, but the problem is they're a media that's much more effective at announcing information than a small ero-magazine.

However, I have a pleasure they could never replicate. Unfortunately, while it's only one or two books a month, buried within my mountain of Bishoujo Manga are the finest manga I could never read in any other genre. The pleasure of being able to immerse myself in reading these to my heart's content. This is perhaps the ultimate luxury for a manga freak like me.

(Honorifics omitted throughout the text.)


※~※~※~※~※


Source:『宝島30』1994/09


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"Busty Lolita" is a Symbol of Gaki Culture!
Even Polymorphic Perversions Float Fluffily in the PC Game World!


By Nagayama Kaoru (永山薫) (Free Writer)
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The theme of this article is 'Lolita in personal computer games'. However, before we dive into the main topic, we must quickly review where it all began in the Lolicon Boom of the late 1970s to early 1980s. This is because, without it, Gaki Culture in its current form probably wouldn't have been possible, and if it were possible, it would likely have taken on a completely different form.

If I were to begin with my personal opinion, the Lolicon Boom was nothing more than a bubble phenomenon. Indeed, 'Lolicon who had no interest in anything besides Youjo' existed, but that only means they existed as a constant percentage, probably less than 1%; there's absolutely no way there would be a sudden surge in popularity that would take on the form of a fixed market.

Now then, what was the boom all about? Put simply, it was all about 'slits'.

Regardless of the lofty tastes and beliefs of the publishers, editors, mangaka, photographers, and minor intellectuals who gathered to celebrate this boom, the carefree and thoughtless general public flocked to the scene, captivated by the mere idea of 'catching a glimpse of a slit'.

In that respect, it was a phenomenon not much different from the current hair-nude boom, one that could've only occurred in pre-modern Japan, where even responsible adults were prohibited from viewing beaver shots (Note 1).

However, Youjo Hobby, which should've been a major taboo, boomed and had a major impact on the later Gaki Culture. It's my belief that since the Lolicon Bubble, more and more people have begun to question the absoluteness of 'orthodox sexuality' as a 'sexual act between mature men and women'. This is evidenced by the fact in the post-Lolicon world of so-called 'Bishoujo Manga', hardcore Lolicon fans have been put to the test by a series of slit bans (the Moppet Trial) and ero-manga bashing (the serial kidnapping and murder of Youjo). However, all manner of sexual deviations have firmly taken root, not just out of curiosity or a Guro Hobby. Human sexuality is an inherently rich and ambiguous world, and once it removed the constraints of preconceived notions, it suddenly revealed itself in a variety of forms.


◆Note 1: These were photos that appeared in foreign magazines in which women spread their legs wide open, exposing not only their pubic hair, but also their genitals.


●The Entirety of Gaki Culture is Lolicon!?



Now then, let's enter the world of personal computer games (PC games), a world unknown to older geezers.

In fact, after speaking with my editor, I learned for the first time people besides PC gamers perceive PC games in general to have a 'Lolicon'-ish image.

This is likely due in large part to the brightly coloured, anime-style graphics of PC games. However, this only applies to Japanese games primarily for PC; most lewd soft for Mac and Windows are live-action and distributed on CD-ROM. This is because, although larger disks require more storage space, they're more convenient (they can directly store videos and photos), and the majority of their users are considered to be 'old geezers'. However, recently, '98-style Bishoujo' has been ported to these machines, and English-language versions have been produced for overseas markets where anime-style lewd is virtually non-existent. It's true the simple equation of 'Japanese Machine = Gaki VS Overseas OS = Adult', or 'Japanese immaturity', is beginning to crumble. In fact, the recent boom in Japanese games, anime, and manga overseas has been so great it has become a social issue, even giving rise to 'Otaku' in Europe and America, becoming one of our few 'cultural exports'.

To avoid unfurling the furoshiki (風呂敷) too much, let's focus on the current mainstream 98-type. Game graphics are drawn by CG designers. The original drawings are scanned and then retouched and coloured on the computer with special effects added. Because PC-98 machines, which constitutes the main market for Bishoujo games, only supports 16 colours by default, the designer's skill is shown in making the game look as colourful as possible with this limited number of colours (though it may look gaudy at first glance, colours beyond 16 are achieved by combining colours on a pixel-by-pixel basis; in other words, it's expressed by mixing them into pseudo-colours). Most CG styles are derived from Bishoujo manga and anime, and it's not uncommon for mangaka and animators to contribute their original drawings. So, in terms of artstyle, they follow the format of Gaki Culture, and if this is to be called Lolicon, then the entirety of Gaki Culture would need to be called Lolicon as well.

That said, Lolicon-ness is not completely absent from graphics such as these. The Lolicon virus is still alive and well, morphing into various forms.


●Casanova and Lolita


Now then, what exactly are these Bishoujo games featuring such characters? In terms of genre, they cover almost every pattern. Action games like 'Street Fighter Ⅱ', RPGs like 'Dragon Quest', strategy games like 'Nobunaga's Ambition' (信長の野望), card games, strip mahjong, Tetris-like games, quiz games, and more, and some are entertaining even without the H. However, the dominant genre is one called adventure game. These are a kind of electronic picture-story show, where a story unfolds on a single screen by solving problems, completing predetermined events (such as touching boobs three times), and choosing from a selection of options. Unlike picture-story shows, adventure games don't necessarily have a linear progression; instead, they can have multiple endings. Because they're relatively easy to create, an astonishing number of titles have been churned out. In the past, games tended to be highly challenging and emphasised gameplay, but unless the scenario was really good, the adventure format is simply boring, and perhaps due to a sense that 'after all, it's wank material', there seems to be an increase in games these days that avoid branching stories, making the difficulty level easy, focusing on showing off the graphics. However, this has led to a tendency to compete over how lewd the graphics can be prepared, and in some cases, the story development has fallen into obvious opportunism.

To achieve lots of lewd graphics, it's easy to create a story about a protagonist being a Casanova-like perverted bastard who seduces every woman he meets. The rest are simply permutations and combinations of the following.

①The protagonist fights in a school run by an evil organisation that uses hypnosis. The only way to break the hypnosis is through sex.

②The protagonist winds up living in a strange mansion. The four sisters who live there are lustful and take turns in trying to seduce the protagonist.

③A private detective is searching for a kidnapped young lady. His method of gathering information is through hard-boiled violence and sex.

The above are what you would call 'standard patterns', but the important thing here is the variety of women. If it's the same pattern, people will grow bored in no time. That's why we start seeing a variety of characters, such as lewd Onee-san, older women with languid personalities, boyish Uchida Yuki-types (内田有紀), mysterious Ojou-sama, and cool female executives.

It's not uncommon for Lolita to pop up amongst all these. In the case of the lewd mansion four sisters story mentioned earlier, it's easy to set it up with the eldest sister being a divorced working adult, the second sister being a cool female university student, the third sister being a boyish high schoolgirl, and the fourth sister being a spoiled middle schoolgirl that looks younger than her age (of course, there are restrictions, and it would be bad to have elementary and middle schoolgirls having sex, so exact school years are censored...... But the discrepancy between stated age and image age is a commonly used technique).

Here, Lolita is simply one variation of many, but it certainly has a designated place in the pattern between men's legs.


●Busty Lolita is the Royal Road


If adventure game is to be considered the basic game that has been around for a long time, then what has recently been in the spotlight is a group of games known as rearing games (育成), which began with 'Princess Maker' (プリンセスメーカー) and has since become a hit with 'Graduation' (卒業) (neither of which are R18). These are games in which the objective is to give the heroine various experiences, help her learn, and raise her up. The prototype of this genre can probably be traced back to the dog training game 'Puppy Love' (パピィ・ラブ) (America), but in Japan, the same idea somehow ends up being translated as 'cute girls', which is funny (the original version of 'Little Computer People' [トル・コンピューター・ピープル], an unusual girl rearing game that was once ported to the Famicon, also features an unattractive man as the protagonist).

Raising a girl from the time she's a Youjo to the woman of your preference. It goes without saying this is a common 'male romance'—not to mention an example of The Tale of Genji (源氏物語). It allows players to simulate the role of a surrogate father, and enjoy the immoral pleasure of virtually raising a Youjo in a computer without anyone noticing. And because this is a computer game, not literature, it has the advantage of allowing players to enjoy the graphics from Youjo to adult without any lingering emotions. It's no wonder it was a hit, and the concept itself could be described as profound.

However, the current mainstream is not the Lolita Lolita. The standard for 1990s Gaki Culture is 'baby face and big breasts'. Put simply, even if the body is fully mature, the face is Lolita, and she's a bit of an Obaka-san. One could say the AV actress, Yuuki Hitomi (憂木瞳) is close to this, but they're beings unlikely to exist in reality.

What's more, this busty Lolita-type didn't appear out of the blue. A character that could be considered its prototype already appeared during the Lolicon Bubble. That character was Clarisse, the heroine of the most popular anime 'Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro' (ルパン3世カリオストロの城) (directed by Miyazaki Hayao [宮崎駿]). She was set to be 20 years old, but had a baby face and large breasts, and was a naïve princess. Despite her advanced age, she became the target of Lolicon yearning, partly due to the fact she had an episode from her Youjo days.

It should be noted this type of busty Lolita also carries the symbolism of maternal love, embracing men tenderly, which is an inevitable consequence of big breasts. In other words, they're designed not only for Lolicon, but also Mothercon.


●Men Are Spoiled


The convenience of characters that seem to have been created by gleaning the best parts of a cute-face that doesn't look too intelligent with a lisping voice partnered with a mama-like tolerance, and the popularity of rearing games that allow the player to create the perfect woman suited to their tastes as if creating a custom doll, you'll get a good idea of the position today's boys find themselves in. They casually enjoy polymorphous perversions that are Lolicon, Mothercon, Casanova-esque, and even Pygmalion-esque (the catalogue of sexual deviance would be even larger if we expanded our net to include other genres) without taking them too seriously. This is because they know it is fiction and almost impossible in reality. There is little emotional attachment or monomania involved. It's simply a moment of entertainment. The majority are not the '2D-Complex bastards who can only get an erection from anime characters' that the old geezers from the mass media delight in. There are probably some dangerous guys among them, but 99% lead healthy social lives and would have sex with a 'real woman' if given the chance. However, it is in fact their ordinary entertainment takes the form of an 'inability to treat women as equals' that I see the hopelessness of the male species. However, both I, who am in a similar position to them, and the baby boomer geezers, who laugh at Otaku and call them fools and Hentai, are similar in that we both harbour regrets about the privileges men possess, regardless of whether it's in reality, or in fantasy.

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Sharon from 'Oh! Kitsune-sama', original scenario and illustration by Caroline Youko as part of Curott's 'Super Lolita Brand' in 1996.
Azuma Hideo was always drawing busty Loli, but it's true breast sizes started to inflate by the late 1980s with 巨乳 (later 爆乳 and 超乳), and breast inflation has reached a point where it's more like a girl attached to boobs than boobs attached to a girl... If you like DFC (delicious flat chests), your preferences are a minority opinion among Lolicon (you need to work harder to support creators to keep your niche preference alive commercially).


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Comics Lolita Best 10
Selector: Yamada Takashi (山田高志) (Free Writer)
※T/L Note: Yamada wrote for Dangerous No.1 (危ない1号), but aside from that, I don't know much about him.

How to Read Catalogue:

Work・・・Title, Artist, and Publisher
Role・・・Role within the work
Age・・・Age change from the start of serialisation
Nickname・・・Nickname within the work if given
Lolita Level・・・A/B/C rating based on age, body-type, and facial features
H Level・・・A/B/C rating based on presence or absence of H-scenes or costumes. However, since these aren't ero-gekiga, even A rank doesn't include explicit scenes
Note・・・Personality, special skills, etc.


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Amano Ai (天野あい)
Work・・・'Video Girl Ai' (電影少女) Katsura Masakazu (桂正和) Shueisha
Role・・・A video girl that appears from a video to comfort the protagonist, Moteuchi Youta (弄内洋太).
Age・・・16
Lolita Level・・・C
H Level・・・A (many scenes where she's naked)
Note・・・Originally, she was supposed to have a kind, gentle personality and a big breasts, but because the video was played on a broken VCR, her personality became more masculine and her bust shrank. Her lifespan (the video's playback time) was supposed to be 3 months, but in the final chapter, she becomes human.........

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Chibi Mikami (ちび美神)
Work・・・'Ghost Sweeper Mikami' (GS美神極楽大作戦) Shiina Takashi (椎名高志) Shogakukan
Role・・・The form of the protagonist exorcist, Mikami Reiko (美神令子), as a child.
Age・・・4 or 5
Lolita Level・・・A
H Level・・・C
Note・・・Mikami Reiko, who's normally incredibly greedy and arrogant, was also innocent and cute when she was young.

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Chacha (チャチャ)
Work・・・ Akazukin Chacha (赤ずきんチャチャ) Ayahana Min (彩花みん) Shueisha
Role・・・The protagonist magic user.
Age・・・Unknown. Appears to be in the early years of elementary school. She's in the first year Banana Class at Urara School, but according to the creator herself, 'Chacha is neither a 1st year elementary schooler, nor a 1st year middle schooler'.
Lolita Level・・・A
H Level・・・B (can be seen wearing bloomers)
Note・・・As a half-baked magic user, she always fails at magic. She wears a red hood handmade by her master Seravi (セラヴィー). Incidentally, her master is a die-hard Lolicon, who's inseparable from his doll called Elizabeth (which he uses for ventriloquism) and is often called a Hentai.

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Skuld (スクルド)
Work・・・'Oh, My Goddess' (ああっ女神さまっ) Fujishima Kousuke (藤島康介) Kodansha
Role・・・The youngest of three goddess sisters who appears before the protagonist, Keiichi (螢一).
Age・・・Unknown. She looks like she's only a middle schooler, but as a goddess, she could be quite old.
Lolita Level・・・B
H Level・・・C
Note・・・Her favourite food is ice cream. Due to her mecha fetish, she invents and names strange mecha, which she's thrilled about, but she also has a childish side, crying easily whenever her inventions are criticised. She also has a Siscon tendency.

She's said to be modelled after Skuld, one of the Norn sisters, the 'Goddess of Fate' from Norse Mythology.

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Tsukino Usagi (月野うさぎ)
Work・・・'Sailor Moon' (美少女戦士セーラームーン) Takeuchi Naoko (武内直子) Kodansha
Role・・・She's Sailor Moon, the leader of the Sailor Senshi who protect Earth. In fact, she's the reincarnated Princess Serenity of the Moon Kingdom
Age・・・14~
Nickname・・・Usagi-chan, Usako
Lolita Level・・・B
H Level・・・B (many love scenes with Tuxedo Mask)
Note・・・Specialises in Healing (recovery) skills. She's usually clumsy, and has poor academic performance. Her frequent visits to arcades, for example, are unpopular with the PTA of her readers.

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Mizuno Ami (水野亜美)
Work・・・'Sailor Moon' (美少女戦士セーラームーン) Takeuchi Naoko (武内直子) Kodansha
Role・・・She's Sailor Mercury, one of the Sailor Senshi.
Age・・・14~
Nickname・・・Ami-chan
Lolita Level・・・B
H Level・・・B (Her mini-skirt form is......)
Note・・・Uses ice-type skills. A Shoujo genius with an IQ of 300, she serves as the brains of the Sailor Senshi. Despite being a supporting character, she consistently ranks among the top of the Sailor Senshi in popularity votes published in the magazine Animage (アニメージュ). Recently, the new boyish character, Tenno Haruka (天王はるか) is also gaining popularity......

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Tia Noto Yoko (ティア・ノート・ヨーコ)
Work・・・'BASTARD!!' by Hagiwara Kazushi (萩原一至) Shueisha
Role・・・The only one capable of controlling the evil wizard, Dark Schneider.
Age・・・14~
Nickname・・・Yoko-san
Lolita Level・・・B
H Level・・・B (she wears revealing clothing that often gets ripped)
Note・・・She casts healing spells. Perhaps inspired by her father, a 120 dan master of Holy Steel Fist, she uses spin kicks and punches, and her combat abilities are impressive, often knocking out Dark Schneider.

She refers to herself as 'boku' and uses boyish language, but she's physically quite glamorous. In addition, she's a virgin. She's only ever kissed Dark Schneider.

The artstyle has changed in the latest volume, v15, and it seems she's becoming more and more loli-faced, but......

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Yamada Niya (山田二矢)
Work・・・'To-y' by Kamijou Atsushi (上条淳士) Shogakukan
Role・・・A girl pursuing the protagonist, Fujii Toi (To-y), a former indie rocker turned idol.
Age・・・15
Nickname・・・Niya
Lolita Level・・・B
H Level・・・B (to the point you see her panties)
Note・・・Initially, she has no breasts, and looks almost boyish, but she begins to develop. Her academic performance is good, although she often skips classes to pursue To-y. She also has exceptional athletic ability, running 100 metres in 10.2 seconds (a new world record even Joyner is amazed by!). Her father resembles Murota Hideo (室田日出男), and her homeroom teacher resembles Fujiwara Yoshiaki (藤原喜明).

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May Hopkins (メイ・ホプキンス)
Work・・・Gunsmith Cats (ガンスミスキャッツ) Sonada Ken'ichi (園田健一) Kodansha
Role・・・Assistant to the protagonist bounty hunter, Larry Vincent.
Age・・・17, but stopped aging at 13 through acupuncture and herbal medicine for the sake of her Lolicon lover, Ken.
Nickname・・・Minnie May
Lolita Level・・・A
H Level・・・A (there's sometimes H-scenes)
Note・・・146cm tall and weighing 38kg, she is a bomb specialist and always carries grenades and detonators. She has a history of working in a brothel and has an outstanding personality. Her lover, Ken, is one lucky guy!

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Lum (ラム)
Work・・・'Urusei Yatsura' (うる星やつら) Takahashi Rumiko (高橋留美子) Shogakukan
Role・・・An alien who came to Earth from the Planet Oni.
Age・・・Unknown. After graduating from Planet Elementary School and Planet Middle School, she's currently enrolled in Class 4, Year 2, at Tomobiki High School on Earth. Approximately 17?
Lolita Level・・・C
H Level・・・B (wears a tiger-skin bikini, but also a sailor suit at Tomobiki High School)
Note・・・After losing to the protagonist, Moroboshi Ataru (諸星あたる), in a game of tag in which the fate of the Earth was at stake, she becomes his fiancée due to a misunderstanding. Her special skill is flying and electric shock attacks. She frequently shocks Ataru when he cheats on her. She is extremely jealous. Her sense of taste is different from that of Earthlings, and she has an abnormal preference for spicy foods. As a result, she cannot taste ordinary food. However, she seems to dislike the smell of garlic. Naturally, the dishes she makes use a lot of stimulating substances, so if an Earthling were to eat it, they would suffer damage to the point they would be unable to speak properly. Incidentally, her 'bad cooking' setting has been inherited by Tendou Akane (天道あかね) from 'Ranma 1/2' (らんま1/2).


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Adventures in Lolita
Art or Crime? Fantasy or Delusion—?

By Aoyama Masaaki (青山正明) (Wiki)

The journey into Lolita, with its uncertain reputation, is a thorny path.



The first to stir the dormant Lolicon hearts of Japanese boys was the anonymous foreign novel 'Pepi's Experience' (ペピの体験) (Fujimi Shoten) and the 'Moppet' (モペット) photobook series imported from America. Both of these first hit the market in the summer of 1977. 'Pepi's Experience' was the ultimate child porn novel, featuring a Shoujo as its main character. The other, 'Moppet', was a completely healthy (?) single Shoujo nude photobook taken by camera at an American nudist colony. Nevertheless, the parade of young breasts and hairless slits caused quite a sensation in Japan, a country with a backwards pornography culture, and even received coverage in weekly magazines.

Now then, about a year and a half after the 'Moppet' shock, Million Publishing released 'Little Pretenders' (リトル・プリテンダー), which is said to have essentially sparked the Lolicon Boom, in January of 1979. The fact it featured (5) Japanese Shoujo completely nude by a Japanese photographer, rather than being photos of foreign girls, made this photobook a major influence on men and ero-media. This mook sparked the subsequent publication for a succession of Lolita nude photobooks.

These include 'Little Fairies of Europe' (ヨーロッパの小さな妖精たち) (1979), which featured the white Shoujo Sophie; 'Sea Breeze Shoujo' (潮風の少女) (1982), a luxurious boxed book featuring the stunningly beautiful and busty Shoujo, Hanasaki Mayu (花咲まゆ) (13); the memorable 'Satomi 10 Year Old Myth' (さとみ10歳の神話) (1983) featuring the pure smile of a Shoujo; what would later be known as the Eiichi (Eiichi Publishing) trilogy: 'Colour of the Heart' (心のいろ) (1984), 'You Sparkle' (君はキラリ) (1984), and 'Wonderland Shoujo, Hayami Yuka' (不思議の国の少女 早見裕香) (1984); the 'Petit Tomato' photobook series by Kiyooka Sumiko (清岡純子), which reached a total of 42 issues and boasted top rankings in both quantity and quality; and more. It's frightening to think Lolita nude photobooks easily surpassed over 100 titles in the 80s alone.

'Pepi's Experience'
This is the Japanese title of 'Josephine Mutzenbacher', which was anonymously written (making it so it has always been public domain, allowing it to be translated and adapted into films), but supposedly the original author is Felix Salten, the original author of 'Bambi', which was turned into a historically popular and important Walt Disney animated film. It's hilarious that his Jewish children decided to irreversibly ruin their father's reputation because they desperately wanted to collect the royalties for this book. Forget the reputation and hysteria surrounding 'Lolita' by Nabokov, this book is the real deal... Disney has ties to the worst kind of Lolicon fiction imaginable.
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●'Hey!Buddy' Launches


Regardless of genre, popular themes turned into periodicals, or magazines, to expand and reproduce their fan base is common in a consumer society. Lolicon is no exception, and the monthly magazine 'Hey!Buddy' (ヘイ!バディー) (Byakuya Shobo), which was launched in 1980, played a major role in fuelling the boom.

When it first launched, 'Hey!Buddy' was just a regular idol-themed ero-magazine, but it wasn't until the spring of 1982 it began to clearly promote its Lolicon appeal. I apologise for getting personal, but to tell you the truth, this magazine was the first commercial magazine for which I wrote an article.

In the summer of 1974, when I was in my second year of middle school, I happened across a copy of the Danish child porn magazine 'Children Love' (チルドレン・ラヴ), and from then on, throughout my high school and university years, I devoted myself to building an evil collection. I was finally given a platform to present the fruits of my labour.

Thus, I became one of the makers of the '1st Lolita Boom' that flourished from the early to mid 80s......

Looking back, every issue of 'Hey!Buddy' was filled with extremely radical projects.

Naturally, there were Shoujo nude gravures, but there were also photos of swimsuits, leotards, upskirt shots, and nude stills bordering on criminal sent in by the readers, introductions for the latest Lolita photobooks, mail-order information for videos including amateur shots, and to top it all off, a serialised article called 'Underground Lolita Video Reviews from Japan and Abroad'.

At its peak, 'Hey!Buddy' sold 70,000 to 80,000 copies. How was it possible for such a specialised magazine for such a niche audience to achieve such a high circulation?

Of course, the correct answer is 'the body of a Shoujo on the verge of ripening is purely beautiful'. And, as is often said, the discrepancy between 'the ideal female image of men' and 'real women' is also believed to be deeply connected in the formation of Lolicon men.


●The Period That Gave Birth to Lolicon


As nutritional conditions improve, the age at which one reaches puberty gradually lowers, and people are physically reaching adulthood earlier than they did a generation ago. Despite this, perhaps due to the bias towards academic achievement, the strange commonly-held belief 'one should not have sex with a real woman until they enter university' remains widespread. As a result, a significant number of men repeatedly experience orgasms through masturbation alone over the seven to eight years between puberty and entering university. What's more, the proliferation of sex media only serves to heighten the quality of simulated sex. It's not difficult to imagine this prolonged, visually-focused masturbation can have a serious impact on the sexual mentality of men, especially boys. Persistent masturbation detaches the 'female image' of boys from reality, and that image, oscillating between ideal (beautification) and deviant (abnormal sexuality), becomes twisted and rigid. However, when they finally interact with real women, men find they are by no means submissive, pure, or overly lewd. The 'female image' cultivated through simulated sex readily crumbles in the face of 'real women'.

Still, men who are obsessed with this image, or rather, unable to break away from pseudo-sex, pursue devices or objects that fit their image. This includes image clubs that prioritise foreplay, pink salons that focus on immediate ejaculation devices, Mothercon men leaving everything to older women, and Lolicon men seeking to gain dominance in both body and mind.

Apart from the virtualisation of male sexuality, the rise of Lolita media in the sex industry can also be interpreted as a simple business strategy, "If hair is no good, there's slits." However, even within the sex industry, which also features Shoujo, there is a significant difference between the child porn that swept across Europe in the 1970s and Japanese Lolicon media. European child porn is unmistakably porn in which a Shoujo's slit is spread open and a penis is inserted. On the other hand, Japanese Lolicon media, excluding written works such as personal experiences or novels, is limited to Lolita nudes that simply feature the appreciation of small breasts and slits. So, does this mean Japanese people dislike child porn? Well, they're different.

As proof, 'Hey!Buddy' was well-received, featuring almost monthly articles of 'criminal nude photos' taken by readers who lured middle and high schoolgirls into their rooms as well as 'real sex videos with Shoujo' made in Europe and Southeast Asia, and Japan. However, the authorities couldn't continue to tolerate such reader-oriented, radical content. Meanwhile, following the main magazine, a supplementary issue called 'Shoujo Angle' (少女アングル), which collected photo submissions, received a warning from authorities and was discontinued with its November 1985 issue. Troubles with the authorities were not the only reason 'Hey!Buddy' was forced to close.

The magazine's circulation began to decline as it lost readers to later Lolicon magazines, such as 'Lolicon House' (ロリコンHOUSE) (Sanwa Publishing), which was launched in December of 1984. While 'Hey!Buddy' had a strong underground feel and placed emphasis on submissions, 'Lolicon House' prioritised creators taking the lead in producing one Lolita idol after another, which included Yamazoe Mizuki (山添みづき) and Hagio Yukari (萩尾ゆかり). It also devoted space to comics and anime, pioneering a new frontier of 'Bishoujo & 2D-con', which continues to this day.

Lolicon House
This is one of the reason I'm translating this. What you would call anti-Lolicon found out about 'Lolicon House' and posted its cover to factually prove there's a 3D aspect of Lolicon. Clueless westerners, who incorrectly believe Lolicon is wholly 2D, then said the completely baseless thing that 'Lolicon hate this' (thinking Lolicon are a monolith and that every single Lolicon was writing in to the editors to remove the photographs from Manga Burikko, which is not true based on the existing letters I translated earlier). I'm not going to upload the full cover, but this was at the bottom of an issue of 'Lolicon House':
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And this is an advertisement for 'Lolicon House' in an early issue of Lemon People (alongside Pafu [Puff]):
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The fact this magazine with a photograph of a real girl on the cover 'pioneered a new frontier of Bishoujo & 2D-Complex' according to Aoyama means it needs to be properly researched and understood. I'm trying to dig through early issues of Lemon People to hopefully get a more nuanced perspective of the relationship between anime/manga and photographs/idols, since there exists both an overlap and a dissociation. This history of Otaku is not beautiful, but the truth needs to be presented if you want to win any arguments and not make yourself look like a completely lazy, ignorant, and dishonest fool.

●Retreating Shoujo Slits



While various abnormal ero-media enjoyed a revival in the late 1980s, when it came to Lolita, the hard line (exposed slits) still seemed to be taboo. When 'Hey!Buddy' was being published, irregular publications, such as 'Milk' (みるく) or 'CANDY', were also being distributed via the vinyl book route. However, with few exceptions, subsequent vinyl book-based Lolicon magazines followed in the footsteps of mainstream media, shifting to the soft line (erased slits).

Turning our attention from gravure to video media, Japan's first Lolita video was 'Ayumi 11 Years Old: Small Temptation' (あゆみ11歳 小さな誘惑), released in 1982 August. It was a tender love story about a young university student meeting a Shoujo at a villa in Izu and developing a secret crush on her. Completely unrelated (tohohohoho......) to the fact the role of university student was played by a young Aoyama Masaaki (then a 4th year university student), the 30,000 yen video sold out in no time, selling all 4,000 copies.

Following the success of 'Small Temptation', a plethora of Lolita videos were produced in rapid succession, much like the photobooks. As the number of videos increased, the content naturally became more varied. There was the shocking 'Small Fairy' (小さな妖精) (1984), in which a man pokes the nipple of a 12 year old Shoujo with the tip of his tongue, and 'Convent Dream Shoujo' (尼寺の夢少女) (1985), featuring a 14 year old E-cup Shoujo.

However, from the mid-1980s onwards, calls for slit regulations began to grow, and in the summer of 1988, Viderin (ビデ倫) announced 'it would no longer review Lolita works'. The number of releases dropped sharply. The previous year, 'Petit Tomato 42' (プチトマト42) had been raided by the Tokyo Metropolitan Police Department, and these two incidents forced Shoujo slits to completely withdraw from mainstream media.


●Lolita in Underground Video


Where there is a topside, there is an underside. Of all the Lolita works circulating in Japan, the only ones that could be called 'child porn' are the so-called underground Lolita videos. These fall into three genres: videos converted from 8mm European films, videos from Southeast Asia (mostly Thailand), and Japanese works, and it goes without saying the most popular are penetrative (本番) videos of actual Japanese Shoujo.

The first underground Lolita videos that began to be distributed in the spring of 1983 were 'Fountain of Virginity' (処女の泉) (13); 'Shoujo Legend' (少女伝説) (estimated age: 13~14), featuring the vivid moans of a plump Shoujo; 'The Hentai' (ザ・変態) (13), featuring a Bishoujo who resembles Yagi Saori (八木さおり) in bondage; 'Fixed 14 Years Old' (フィックス14歳) (14), which became a hot topic for its close-up scenes of private parts; and 'Dream Pillow' (夢まくら) (estimated age: 14~15) ...... (All of these are currently available through underground routes.)

The ages of the Shoujo were confirmed through certain sources at the time of distribution, but in some cases, such as the 12 year-old Shoujo who appeared in 'Shoujo Loitering' (女の道草) or 'Strange Feeling...' (変な感じ…), the producers were arrested and the Shoujo's age was revealed in a newspaper report. As an aside, these works are known among enthusiasts as 'official' underground Lolita videos.

Because the response of authorities to underground Lolita videos is extremely swift and strict, no significant new works have been released in the last 7~8 years. However, it seems penetration videos of Southeast Asian Shoujo, such as the 'Dangerous Oji-san' (危険なおじさん) series, have been released here and there......


●Lolita as Otaku Culture


The discontinuation of 'Hey!Buddy' in 1985, the Viderin notice in 1987, and the photobook crackdown in 1988. After a series of incidents, Visual-kei Lolicon media went into a slump, but in the 1990s, it regained momentum.

The Lolita specialty magazine 'Alice Club' (アリス・クラブ) (Byakuya Shobo), launched in 1988 December, has achieved a circulation of 80,000 despite being published every other month. The supplementary Lolita database 'Milk Club' (ミルク・クラブ) (4 volumes) is so comprehensive, it's dizzying, and this year, Shounen Publishing* has launched two magazines focusing on middle schoolgirls: 'Petit Milk' (プチミルク) (bi-monthly) and 'Fifteen Club' (フィフティーンクラブ) (bi-monthly). Furthermore, the reading-focused 'Novel Alice' (小説アリス) (Sogo Tosho) is set to be a monthly publication starting in August.
※Shounen Publishing (少年出版社) (currently: Core Magazine [コアマガジン]).

Videos are also booming, with mail-order makers such as HAL, R&S, and Land Kikaku releasing new works one after another. What is most surprising is that 4 Lolita specialty shops have opened in Tokyo: Lolipop (ロリポップ) (Ueno), Land Kikaku (ランド企画) (Komagome), Mimii (ミミィ) (Ookubo), and Angel (エンジェル) (Shinjuku), as if trying to catch up with and surpass the long-established Pepe (ペペ) (Takadanobaba).

It seems explicit slit exposure is still forbidden, but there are still periodicals with a circulation of 80,000 and the number of specialty shops has suddenly increased from 1 to 5. Many are saying this is the arrival of the '2nd Lolita Boom'. Will it continue to expand, will the hard route be revived, or will it spread overseas as a part of Otaku culture? Hmm.

In writing this article, I interviewed many people and gathered the latest information. However, in the end, I only scratched the surface of the reality of a 2nd boom. As a former creator, I wanted to avoid a situation where the government would crush something just because it was featured in an all-age magazine. There's the example of Burusera (ブルセラ) after all. If you want to know more, just buy a specialty magazine and read it. To all the editors of major magazines, don't do anything to deprive maniacs of their 'secret pleasure' just because you're out of material!


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Extra
Hentai-san and Criminal 'True Lolicon Legends'
If you go this far, you're out! Absolutely don't try this at home!

Aoyama Masaaki (Writer)


It's been nearly 10 years since I left the so-called Lolicon industry. However, I still maintain active social connections, and have several acquaintances with a Lolita Hobby. I was introduced to them by a friend from my time working on magazines, and so on. This is how 'Kindred Lolicon Spirits' have survived (not saying that to sound big).

While the term Lolicon is broadly used, what brings joy to each individual varies. There are anime maniacs, Bishoujo CM collectors, those who look at Lolita mooks and videos, and those who pursue a self-contained libido. Regardless of these classifications, the ones who never cease to pique my curiosity are the genuine Lolicon bastards, the ones in technical terms known as 'paedophiles'.

In the late 19th century, German psychiatrist Krafft-Ebing coined the term paedophilia in his book 'Psychopathia Sexualis' (性愛の心理) (formerly known in Japan as the 'Imperfect Marriage' [不完全なる結婚]). The term was derived from the Greek words paedo (child) and philia (love) and is generally translated as 'paedophilia' (小児性愛). A paedophile is someone who has paedophilic tendencies.

●Yoghurt with ○○ for Shoujo!?

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●From Lolicon to Criminal

Not Translated; this article covers 3 individuals Aoyama Masaaki knows; one of them likely being the inspiration for the Lust in the Public Baths in his 'How to Lolita' article. Then he talks about 2 others who became criminals. One, a die-hard paedophile, who criminally took evil photos and video recordings with pseudo-penetration of lower elementary schoolgirls (he says his trick to keep the victims from crying is to distract them with anime and candy), and he would try to offload these photos and videos to Aoyama, then one day, the mother of a girl this guy abducted in a park started beating on the door to his home demanding her daughter back (he got away with this until he was arrested a month later). The third was a guy claiming, "It's easier to get inside a boy's anus than a girl's vagina." The third was arrested after paying two kindergarten boys 50 yen so he could become the Cock Mongler.

●Paedophile Groups



Not wanting to become criminals, many paedophiles fled to Chiang Mai in northern Thailand. A small minority also travelled to Bombay, India, the Philippines, Taiwan, Brazil, Argentina, and other countries. Of course, sexual acts with children aren't permitted in these countries, either. However, the fact remains their brothels employ prostitutes as young as 14~15 years old.

In Japan these days, it's said you can buy a middle schoolgirl for just 50,000 yen, but even so, I don't think the number of men travelling abroad to engage in prostitution with Shoujo has decreased.

In Southeast Asia alone, it's said between 600,000 to 800,000 children (under 18 years old according to the UN definition) become sexual victims every year. The majority of perpetrators are white men from Europe or the United States, and what's interesting is they engage in organised Shoujo prostitution.

"Sex Before Eight!" The American René Guillon Society, with its 5,000 members, espouses this slogan. A senior member of the Paedophile Information Exchange, Europe's largest underground organisation, publicly called for, "Lowering the age of consent to sex to 4!" This sparked controversy. The American Howard Nichols Society also published a pamphlet for its members titled 'How to Have Sex with Children'.

Japanese people are often said to enjoy group activities, both at home and abroad. However, I've never heard of any organisations in Japan with hundreds or thousands of Practitioner Lolicon. Is it because there's nowhere for them to communicate with one another, or are there not enough of them to form an organisation?

While I've listed some rather sombre anecdotes, paedophiles who engage in prostitution or commit crimes are still a tiny minority in Japan. The majority of Lolicon remain confined to the media world of comics, gravure, and videos. Though that doesn't change the fact of both being dangerous existences......


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Confessions of a Frigid Man (2005)
Chapter 4: Delving into the Psychology of Men with “Lolita Complexes” (Morioka Masahiro)

LINK TO CHAPTER (READ IT!)

Morioka Masahiro (森岡 正博) is a Japanese philosopher, who has contributed to the fields of philosophy of life, bioethics, gender studies, media theory, and civilisation studies. He is a professor of philosophy and ethics at Waseda University. He's famous for popularising the term 'Herbivore Men', and I recently found out he translated his books into English. Which is surprising because it's obvious practically no one in the western anime community read his chapter on 'Lolita Complex'. I tried looking him up on 4chan and reddit, and it's pretty much cricket chirps, though five years ago, one (perhaps the only) smart anonymous user, who read Morioka's book, quoted it.

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I can only imagine the few who read this book couldn't make it that far through it. His focus is on 3D Loli; he barely talks about anime, but if you can steel your wits and march your way through it, you'll reach parts 21~23 to be reward with something so amazing, it could only come from a Japanese native's brain.

Morioka Masahiro said:
I have said that the ultimate goal of lolicon men like me is to transport ourselves into the body of a cute young girl who is at the point of pubescent bifurcation, live inside it, savor the experience of being inside it to our heart’s content, dress it up in various outfits and interact with other people from within it, be treated gently as something precious by other people, and come to truly love our own bodies. I then want to ejaculate into the girl’s womb from inside her, become pregnant, and give birth to myself. By doing this I will finally be able to escape from my mother’s sphere of influence. I will become an entity born of myself, and in doing so obtain absolute freedom without ever needing to be subordinate to anyone. I will obtain the physical ideal of the body of a young girl, feel self-affirmation towards my own body, and also obtain the internal freedom of psychological independence. The world will bless me, I will bless myself, and my existence will become one of perfect self-fulfillment and satisfaction.

Earlier Nagayama Kaoru wrote about awakened individuals who share the fantasy of 'I want to be cute' and 'I want to be loved'. And that the awakened individuals project themselves onto the male and female characters to become the 'I' who loves, the 'I' who is loved, and the 'I' who watches. I only found one poorly researched article by Melissa Padilla that comments on Morioka's book that Lolicon men want to be the Loli, and she doesn't think there's enough evidence for this to be confirmed. Her article is the typical one of a westerner who doesn't know anything about Azuma Hideo (she's completely clueless about the history of Lolicon and Lolita Fashion).

In any case, Aocchi and Hant seem to be hyper-focused on the parts of these translations where people, like Azuma Hideo, say they want to be transformed into a Loli. Aocchi is kind of a troll, so he jokingly called Azuma Hideo an 'egg' (if you don't know what this means, then I envy you). But I think Nagayama Kaoru's explanation of an 'awakened individual' makes more sense to me than to think Lolicon men are all transwomen waiting to hatch from their eggs.




Nagayama Kaoru said:
The majority are not the '2D-Complex bastards who can only get an erection from anime characters' that the old geezers from the mass media delight in.

I find it extremely interesting Nagayama Kaoru wrote this in 1994. In the same article, he says 99% of anime Otaku (Lolicon) lead normal, healthy lives and would have sex with a 'real' woman. In the 1980s, Nagayama Kaoru supposedly participated in a roundtable talk with Aoyama Masaaki and Hirukogami Ken in an issue of 'Hey!Buddy' (I want to find a transcription of this talk), and one of the take-aways of the magazine editors is that its Lolicon readers gravitating to the Shoujo photographs were all normal men who would gladly have sex with an adult woman. However, this year, Nagayama Kaoru tweeted about this book being sold alongside his books at Comiket (Link). I personally hate the term Fictosexual; I feel this is all a ploy to call critics of manga and anime 'Fictophobes'. I haven't read this book, but I'm curious whether Nagayama has changed his opinion that 99% of Otaku don't have a 2D-Complex.

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Short translation for those who've been intellectually brave enough to read these translations in their entirety.

After finally spotting it for sale on Yahoo Auction, Kera quickly managed to obtain the issue of 'Crash' where Aoyama Masaaki bashes Otaku with maximum disgust. This was published months before Miyazaki Tsutomu was arrested, and should paint an interesting picture of what society thought of Otaku pre-Miyazaki. I showed this article to zzfear, and he replied, "Wtf. A shitpost from 89." Aoyama is a genius law student, which might not be apparent because I'm not a genius translator; I had to put off the 'How to Lolita' article because of devilish wordplay like '浴場で欲情' (Yokujou de Yokujou).

Aoyama is dead, but someone decided to reprint his unreleased manuscript 'Dangerous Strawberry' (危ないイチゴ) and sell it on Kindle (Link). This person doesn't technically own the rights to Aoyama's manuscripts, but no one knows who to contact for permission, so it's in a tentative 'ask for forgiveness later' state. I'm hoping all these manuscripts are reprinted in the future digitally somewhere that isn't Kindle. It's really difficult to purchase Kindle books outside Japan without a Japanese credit card; you practically need to register a brand new account and trick amazon's system into believing you're within Japan at all times. In any case, there's many, many more articles in Crash that are just as insane as this one after the Miyazaki Tsutomu incident, Aoyama mocking Nakamori Akio (the godfather of Otaku), and so on. You can read brief summaries of Aoyama's articles on 'Aoyama's World' (Link), which also acts as a summarisation of manga and anime history as it relates to Aoyama.




Source:『Crash』1989年3月号

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Flesh Paper (肉新聞) 1989.March 1st 71st Issue

Editing/Writing: Aoyama Masaaki (青山正明) (About to write an entire tankoubon about Sengoku warlords. Err, no idea why.)


CURRENT TOPICS DIVISION
Reexamining 'Otaku' with Maximum Disgust


I'm well aware 'Otaku' is an outdated topic. Nevertheless, I'm compelled to write about 'Otaku'. Because there's no creature more disgusting than an 'Otaku'. Despite being creatures that deserve to be discriminated, abused, and slaughtered, Otaku live alongside us humans with impunity.

"There are creepy guys in my neighbourhood, but what the heck am I supposed to do about them?" All humans have wondered these thoughts at some point. And most humans don't know how to deal with these guys. However, if it turns out they're 'Otaku', there's no need to worry about what to do about them. Yes, Otaku can be discriminated, abused, and slaughtered.

Now then, let's list the characteristics of Otaku——creatures that elicit disgust in humans.

(Ⅰ)Otaku Hobbies 5
➀Anime
②Computers
③Computer Games, Famicon (especially RPGs)
④SF/Mystery Novels
⑤Military/Weapons

(Ⅱ)Otaku Appearance 3
➀Fat
②Sweaty
③Talks cockily while holding up their index finger (overreacting during conversations)

(Ⅲ)Otaku Social/Personal Idiosyncrasies 3
➀Unpopular with women (mostly uninterested in women)
②Argumentative
③Humiliating academic history

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If six or more of the above 11 points apply to you, then you're unmistakably an Otaku. Also ➀ of (Ⅰ), ③ of (Ⅱ), and ②③ of (Ⅲ) are the most typical characteristics of an Otaku, so if 2 or more of those apply to you, then it's safe to say you're an Otaku.

By the way, the most common type of Otaku is one who loves anime and is argumentative despite only having graduated from high school, vocational school, or a 3rd or 4th rate university.

Also, for people who say, "Closely observing Otaku is vomit-inducing." There's a very simple, albeit less accurate, way to identify them.

Otaku don't listen to Western rock/pop. This. Otaku will never keep up with conversations like, "What was cool on MTV recently?" Or, "Ratt's 'Way Cool Jr.' is an imitation of Aerosmith." Another characteristic of Otaku is their lack of interest in marine or winter sports. The only sports Otaku engage in is martial arts and bowling.

These days, the number of female Otaku, especially ones obsessed with anime, comics, and Bishounen-mania, is on the rise, and there's alarming instances of them marrying male Otaku and giving birth to baby Otaku. It's truly horrifying. If you come across anyone creepy, compare them to the characteristics of an Otaku. Once you find out they're an Otaku, then discriminate, abuse, and slaughter them!

Carpenter should refilm 'They Live' using Otaku as a model, and sound a warning to the world!




Furuma's Otaku Bashing Research Doujin '八〇年代の精神異常者暫定版' [Digital]:
Click Here

Furuma only sold 6 copies thus far on DLSite (I can only hope he sold enough physically through melonbooks and events)... Yonezawa mentioned there's not much demand for research articles, which is a shame.

I started this thread in 2022, and after 3 years, none of the contents of this thread have made any sort of dent in the western manga or anime fandom. Granted, I was keeping a low profile hoping any embarrassing errors could be caught through the help of others.

In a positive light, Chris obtained issues of Lovely; an important doujinshi in Yaoi history according to Yonezawa Yoshihiro.
Chris also recently mentioned me in his latest article here:

Per my colleague Taruby's translations, Shimizu Osamu (清水おさむ) mentioned in his Venn Diagram a camp of young women who he says made "lolicon" doujinshi (a term widely used before the notion of otaku for Comiket works that were ero), the group "Tokyo Animenia Army". These works, unlike the softcore offerings on the sales floor from young women interested in mecha, were notably pornographic.
Chris has many people liking and retweeting his posts on X and Bluesky, though I don't know whether any of them are reading his articles, or if they'll understand his explanation of 'lolicon' doujinshi.
Shizumu Osamu's recollection of AMA is infallible and a 1st hand account. AMA's last issue, shown on the right, depicts Garma and Char getting married akin to Woody Malden and Matilda Ajan's would-be wedding, imagined by Amuro during the Jaburo arc. Courtesy of Taruby.)
Seeing Chris's blog, I wonder where I should start a blog or website to host these translated articles. The biggest problem is that I'm researching the word 'Lolicon', and I know the survivability of these articles is incredibly low on any given western platform. Unlike Chris, who can publicly share his donation button with a peace of mind, I feel someone with a grudge or mental illness will make it impossible for me...

I should mention the terrible things that are happening for America-based researchers (i.e. Chris) regarding Japanpost and the tariffs. Importing doujinshi was already expensive for him, now it's gotten ridiculous.
 
Another long post, this time we're going to read the thoughts of Waseda University's animation club, who were mentioned a few times earlier in this thread (i.e. The Animage Lolicon Severity Test), and also featured on Manga Burikko's homepage.

Anicom Fanzine Information:

One of the key figures of Waseda University's fanzine 'Anicom' (アニコム), is the animator Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充) (English Wikipedia) (Japanese Wikipedia). He directed and drew the storyboards for a long library of anime, which includes Creamy Mami, Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, Kimagure Orange Road, Ranma 1/2, and SD Gundam Force to name a few. In this supplementary fanzine, Mochidzuki, and the other members of his Circle, will give their definition and explanation of Shoujo Love (少女愛好), and the various kinds of Lolicon in 1981 (True Lolicon, Hobby Lolicon, Fashion Lolicon, etc.). They also talk about the difference between their definition of Lolicon and paedophilia, and briefly talk about 2D-Complex.

A couple other notable figures include Fukuyama Keiko (福山慶子) (Wiki), a mangaka and illustrator who also worked on various Pokémon works. And Yano Atsushi (矢野篤) (Wiki), who also directed many anime.

Bessatsu Anicom 'For Shoujo Lovers':

This link contains an introduction and table of contents for the issue tooecchi purchased and scanned (available on Sad Panda). Many of the other issues are being sold second hand for a high cost (I've seen some going for 30,000 JPY). Hopefully, these will be scanned and archived in the near future.






Source:『別冊アニコム 少女愛好家のために』1981/10/6 (1982/2/10)

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Cover Illustrated by Fukuyama Keiko (福山慶子)(Wiki)

In this book, we don't refer to girls who aren't under the age of 14 as 'Shoujo'. And this book focuses on nothing but 'Shoujo'.


Bessatsu Anicom Contents:

●Bessatsu Anicom Style: Shoujo Love Studies
By Terada Tooru (寺田 融) and Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充)
●Bessatsu Anicom: Six Main Staff Interview
Anonymous
●Heroines of Animation
By Hida Kazunori (肥田和典), Ozaki Hiromasa (尾崎浩正), Yoshinari Hiroshi (吉成寛), Kobayashi Kazuhiko (小林和彦), Fukuda Noboru (福田昇), Yano Atsushi (矢野篤), Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充), Tasaki Yasuhiro (田崎康博), and ???
●Lolicon Disposition of Anime Fans
By Iemasa (家将)
●'Bessatsu Anicom' Selected: Three Shoujo Models
By Ooba Yahou (大庭椰邦), Shinada Toshio (品田俊夫), and Han Keiko (半径子)
●Bouquet to Lolita Complex
By Terada Kinji (寺田欣司)
●Essay Double Feature:
From Shoujo Love to 2D-Con & From Paternal Love to Shoujo Love

By Tadaki Yasuhiko (只木泰彦)
●I Want to Touch a Youjo's Shoulders
By Terada Tooru (寺田融)
●A Lolicon Essay Written by a Woman!!?
By Kinashi Kayo (木梨香代)
●I am Normal
By Han Keiko (半・径子)
●Gift to the Eternal Shoujo
By Mizukami Sumi (水上澄)


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Bessatsu Anicom Style: Shoujo Love Studies
——Before Reading 'For Shoujo Lovers'——


Terada Tooru* (寺田 融)
Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充) (Wiki)
※Can be read as Akira, Tooru, Yuzuru, and Yuu.



1. Definition of Shoujo (nA)

Proposal A:
A 'Shoujo' is a female who, from a medical perspective, doesn't possess a sexual capacity (reproductive capacity) and is not a target for normal reproductive activity. → The upper limit is 13~14 years old. (nB)

Proposal B:

A 'Shoujo' is a female who hasn't reached puberty yet, a stage in which she psychologically develops sexual interest, attraction, and arousal (?) towards the opposite sex. → Again, the upper limit is 13~14 years old.

Proposal C:
Article 731 of the Civil Code allows a woman to marry once she turns 16. Meaning, conventional wisdom is a female who reaches the age of 16 is already capable of engaging in normal sexual activity. → Anyone over the age of 16 doesn't fit the definition of 'Shoujo'.

Conclusion:
As can be understood by A~C, once a female turns 14, there's practically and objectively almost no difference between normal sexual and male-female relationships. Therefore, the target age of Lolita Complex must be roughly up to this age; otherwise, the concept of Lolita Complex becomes meaningless. For these reasons, throughout this 'Bessatsu Anicom', only females below the age of 14 will be referred to as 'Shoujo'. Additionally, while the term 'Youjo' is frequently used, please understand this refers to the younger category among 'Shoujo', girls up to 8 or 9 years old. (nC)

Note(nA):
This is not the definition of 'Shoujo', but rather a definition of the age range of girls who are subject to the so-called Lolita Complex. Therefore, it might be more appropriate to call it a 'limit line' (限界線) rather than a 'definition'.

Note(nB): Physically, once a female has completed breast development, pubic hair growth, pelvic development, and menarche, she is no longer indistinguishable from an 'adult woman' and can no longer be called a 'Shoujo'. For example, it's difficult to refer to a high schoolgirl as a 'Shoujo'.

Note(nC): However, if we think of 'Shoujo' in terms of image, the significance of age becomes somewhat diluted; there's not much point in sticking to a certain age in manga, anime, and other works where appearance, age, personality, and expression are heavily exaggerated (although, having said that, the article 'Heroines of Animation' in this zine is quite particular about this).

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2. Shoujo Love Factor Classification (nD)


➀Paternal Love Type:

Progressing from protecting and caring for Shoujo, it develops into a strong attachment to them, even joining sexual love. (nE)

➁Image Type:
Pursuing Shoujo in images as a existence in contrast to males or mature females. A strong psychological yearning for an undifferentiated and fastidious image.

➂Body Type:
Pursuing the bodies, appearance, and movement of Shoujo. It's also related to a desire for dominance and sadism.

➃Avoidance Type:
Shoujo as a means of escape from mature females or society in general. Going further, it's an escape from humans, becoming doll love.

α. Active Avoidance:
Due to disappointment towards adult females.

β. Passive Avoidance:
Due to an inability to integrate into everyday society.

(➄Mental Assimilation Type):
Yearning for and emphasising with the psychology and spirit of Shoujo, and immersing oneself in their world. It's also related to the desire to return to childhood. Doesn't necessarily pursue real, flesh-and-blood Shoujo. (nF)

(➅Mania Type):
Shoujo as an object of obsession. Devoting oneself to them derives a heretical pleasure. (nF)

(➆Hobby Type):
In essence, ones psychology towards mature females is completely normal, and there's no necessity for there to be a Shoujo.

Note(nD): In real individuals, it's natural several of these types are combined. For a psychological discussion on this topic, please read the article 'I am Normal' (私は正常) in this zine.

Note(nE): Refer to 'From Paternal Love to Shoujo Love' in this zine.

Note(nF): Recently, these types are common, creating a superficial Shoujo Boom. However, true Shoujo Love does not come about so easily. For example, anime or manga can be a trigger, but for the resulting complex to arise, one needs a fundamental experience from childhood, or an environment and personality that can shape it. Self-proclaimed 'Lolicon' who lack these are nothing more than phonies.

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Illustration by Fukuyama Keiko (福山慶子)

3. Paedophilia and Lolicon


A. Paedophilia (幼児嗜好症)

——A psychological term referring to Youjo Fancy as a maladjustment towards society. The essential factor causing this maladjustment is avoidance for self-defence (see item ④), with other factors being secondary or circumstantial.

B. Lolita Complex
——A term to describe a character that can only love innocent, adorable Shoujo or Youjo. Though its spread in the short term as a modern development shows signs of a reboom, the majority of Lolicon are Hobby, Trend, and Fashion as mentioned in items ⑥ and ⑦ above.

Explanation of Lolicon

The term originates from Nabokov's novel 'Lolita' (ロリータ). Naturally, the female that becomes the target of Lolicon is a 'Shoujo with nymphette-ish qualities', or to put it more simply, a 'child' (self-proclaimed Lolicon these days don't even understand this). This zine defines the threshold at 14 years old, which shouldn't be too far off the mark. However, 'Lolicon' as an abbreviation has an undeniably cheap sounding ring to it. Hence why we titled this zine 'For Shoujo Lovers'. It goes without saying, these 'Shoujo Lovers' refer only to the aforementioned items ➀~➃, i.e. those with a true Lolita Complex. (nG) (nH)

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4. Various Shoujo Media (nI)


A. Animation:

Due to the nature of its expression, it's a fact a large portion of its fanciers share a common interest in 'Shoujo'. As this zine is also one for an animation club, it naturally contains many articles about anime. (nJ)

B. Manga

C. Novels:
There's a particularly strong relationship between SF and Shoujo Love. This is because childhood fantasies and experiences shape the sense of wonder in both. (nK)

D. Films, TV Drama, etc.

E. Photobooks, Magazines, etc.

F. CF, Posters, etc.

G. Doujinshi:

When people with similar interests gather together, they're inspired to create something. This is also how this zine was born.


Note(nG): This may be due to the fact 'Castle of Cagliostro', which triggered a trend in the word known as Lolicon, was about Clarisse, a female old enough to lead a normal married life, and the count seeking her was referred to as 'Count Lolicon' (ロリコン伯爵).

Note(nH): A similar error was made in the special feature in the Animec issue titled "'Ro' is the 'Ro' in Lolita" (”ろ”はロリータの”ろ”). For example, the manga being introduced by Nakajima Fumio (中島史雄) and Muraso Shunichi (村祖俊) are mostly about 'Sailor Suit Hobby', which isn't Lolicon.

Note(nI): Of course, there's nothing better than enjoying a flesh-and-blood Bishoujo, but we'll leave that to each individual's discretion and simply list some Shoujo media as an alternative here.

Note(nJ): Refer to 'Lolicon Temperament of Anime Fans' in this zine.

Note(nK): This is deeply explored in the 'The Hyperbola of SF and Shoujo Lovers' article in Animec's "'Ro' is the 'Ro' in Lolita".


This zine also covers 3D Shoujo and a lot of media besides anime, so please refer to the main text for more details. (However, manga has been almost entirely omitted.)


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Editor Commentary
Bessatsu Anicom: Six Main Staff Interview
In no particular order, all anonymous


What triggered your awareness to Lolita Complex?

Staff A: I started to become aware of it towards the end of my high school life, but it was a series of random moments in my life. There was no particular incident that triggered my awakening. I only recently learned the term Lolita Complex.

Staff B: I thought Shoujo were cute, but I wasn't exactly a Lolicon. In university, I touched a local kindergartener's privates, and ever since then, I prefer touching Youjo more than what you would call Shoujo. This must be why this interview's anonymous...

Staff C: I learned about the term Lolita Complex from Wada Shinji's (和田慎二) manga during my first year of high school, but at the time I only found it puzzling. So, even if I reached that point, I'm not consciously aware of it myself.

Staff D: From the time I entered university and was told, "You're a Hentai!"

Staff E: Watching Alois from 'A Dog of Flanders' (フランダースの犬) made me realise I was a Lolicon. Every week, I'd sketch Alois in front of the television. (I knew about the term Lolicon before then.) After that, I rewatched Heidi and completely went bonkers.

Staff F: Before, I had never thought normal nude photos were beautiful, but when I saw '12 Year-old Mythology' (12歳の神話) in my third year of high school, I realised just how beautiful a naked child could be. I think being a Lolicon is more normal.


What kind of Shoujo do you like?

Staff A: She doesn't need to be pretty, but she has to be cute. Obesity is strictly prohibited. A kind and well-behaved girl. Conversely, a completely innocent or selfish personality might also be nice.

Staff B: As for Shoujo... cute, but with a strong core and a sense of justice. Slightly thin with clear eyes. As for Youjo... thin and slender with beautiful hair, a girl I cannot help but want to touch.

Staff C: Age 11~12. It's fine if it's a girl with a dark personality, but I prefer a girl who's honest.

Staff D: 5~6 years old. She has long hair and looks great in a white dress. She's innocent and cheerful, yet feels like she'll occasionally wander off into the distance.

Staff E: Age 5, 7, or 10. I like girls with pretty brows and cute girls in general.

Staff F: 8 or 9 years old. Slender with beautiful legs and innocent, a girl who's beautiful both physically and mentally.


What is your ideal relationship with Shoujo?

Staff A: A planet and its moon. Or Pierre and Françoise. Or a mariage blanc.

Staff B: One where I play doctor with a kindergarten-looking girl and do naughty things with her before going to sleep. In my fantasy, I'd like to rape her, but in reality, I would physically feel sorry for her, so I wouldn't really want to do it.

Staff C: A casual, playful relationship would be best.

Staff D: An adopted daughter and adoptive father.

Staff E: A pure and beautiful relationship.

Staff F: Cohabitation. Or a big house on a beautiful plateau where I can cultivate the purity of Bishoujo.


Do you plan to get married?

Staff A: I don't have any plans at the moment. I'm more interested in finding a good friend than a good wife.

Staff B: I'm normal, so of course I'll have one. But I definitely want to have at least one girl.

Staff C: No plans at the moment.

Staff D: I do. I'll endure it, and get married so I'll have a daughter to dote upon.

Staff E: None right now.

Staff F: None. I'll take a Youjo as a common-law wife.


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Heroines of Animation

Shoujo... who still don't know shame...

Illustrations:

Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充) (Wiki)
Fukuda Noboru (福田 昇)
Kobayashi Kazuhiko (小林和彦)
Tasaki Yasuhiro (田崎康博)

Commentary:
Hida Kazunori (肥田和典):
Hilda (The Great Adventure of Horus, Prince of the Sun)

Ozaki Hiromasa (尾崎浩正):
Cathy (Treasure Island)

Yoshinari Hiroshi/Kan (吉成 寛):
Clara (Heidi: Girl of the Alps), Alois (Dog of Flanders)

Kobayashi Kazuhiko (小林和彦):
Lana (Future Boy Conan), "Rainy Day" Girl (Panda Go Panda)

Fukuda Noboru (福田 昇):
Mayu (Captain Harlock), Angie (Her Majesty's Petite Angie), Becky (Adventures of Tom Sawyer), Flone (The Swiss Family Robinson)

Yano Atsushi (矢野 篤) (Wiki):
Queen of the Purple Planet (Gulliver's Travels: Beyond the Moon), Kushinada (The Little Prince and The Eight-Headed Dragon), Lighthouse Girl (Doggie March)
Another famous animation director associated from Waseda University; he directed El Hazard, Ikki Tousen, and Black Jack among many others.

Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充):

Clarisse (Youjo Period) (Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro), Perrine (The Story of Perrine), Annie (Candy Candy), Beth (Little Women), Meg (Majokko Meg), Makiko (The New Adventures of Gigantor), Nell (Nell the Wandering Girl)
※Aocchi kindly sent me a DM identifying Annie's (アニー) anime.
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Tasaki Yasuhiro (田崎康博):

Lise (Nobody's Boy Remi), Urara (Robokko Beeton), Mauni (The Great Adventure of Horus, Prince of the Sun), Mimiko (Panda Go Panda), Kiiro (Invincible Superman Zambot 3), Lisette (The Adventures of Tom Sawyer), Keiko (Invincible Superman Zambot 3), Monsley (Shoujo Period) (Future Boy Conan)

???:
Fiorina (3000 Leagues in Search of Mother) Diana (Anne of Green Gables), Anne (Anne of Green Gables)


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Aocchii's friend, The Weeb Crew, found the Animage image with the above and were attempting to make some 'modern' version of this diagnostic test. But I would recommend you visit Sad Panda to read the source commentary and look at the illustrations. The commentary doesn't explain which anime these characters came from, so it took me quite a while to source all but one of them (Annie). Apparently, these people from Anicom only cared about Youjo-version Clarisse and Shoujo-version Monsley.

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●Lolicon Disposition of Anime Fans●

By Iemasa (家将)

There are many Lolicon, for some reason, among anime fans. When Mochidzuki-kun (望月) told me that, I thought maybe that's true. It seems like it's only recently the term 'Lolicon' has been talked about among animation fans. Of course, there's been cases where Bishoujo characters appearing in manga movies have attracted a certain fanbase and raised passions. Hilda from 'Prince of the Sun' is a typical example. However, I believe this cannot be directly linked to Lolicon or Lolita Complex.

The target of Lolicon are young in age (under 14 years old according to Mochidzuki-kun's current project), in other words, girls who have not yet differentiated into women. Therefore, the girls themselves probably have no idea their very existence will attract a certain type of man. Or perhaps they're at least somewhat aware of this. But the important thing is that Lolita Complex exists completely independently of the will of the Shoujo in question. They're simply projecting their own values upon her. They don't care what kind of reaction the Shoujo gives them.

At this point, it's easy to understand why there are so many Lolicon among anime fans, and why the number is increasing. In animation, or rather manga movies, one can create any character they desire. That is, if one has the skills to do so. One can also feel more strongly attached to characters created by others than to characters played by human actors. This is because it's easier to project the audience's values onto them.

In other words, animation is a great way to attract fans of characters, not just Lolicon. In particular, animation is the perfect form of expression for people with selfish desires, such as those with a Lolita Complex.

Now then, even though they're called Lolicon, the values they hold are diverse and differ from person to person. Meaning, there are many different characters people like. This means a person's favourite character can in turn reveal their personality. They say there's Shoujo fraternisation in the Waseda Animation Club's second work. At best, they should be careful.

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'Bessatsu Anicom' Selected
Three Shoujo Models

Han: After all, when it comes to children's fashion magazines, I cannot peel my eyes away from every issue.

Shinada: I bought two back issues of 'Kodomo Boutique' (こどもブティック). But there's no cute models besides Toshiko-chan (俊子).

Ooba: Well, the model's charm is better shown on train posters than in children's clothing magazines. The poster featuring Yumiko-chan (由美子) from the Industrial Bank of Japan in particular changes with the seasons, and is a real treat for long distance commute students.

Han: Keiko-chan (恵子) is so cool—. She has a variety of expressions, and Toshiko-chan's smile isn't one-patterned.

Ooba: And when she smiles with her gap-toothed face, it's a bit...

Shinada: Hmm, Keiko-chan, if I'm being honest, is ugly. I cannot imagine how someone like that could be such a nice person.

Ooba: Right, right. Just because she's showing her forehead doesn't make her nice.

Han: I want you to take a look at the autumn issues 90 and 289 of 'Kodomo Boutique'. Her personality is oozing out.

Shinada: Well, how do I say it, it has to be Toshiko-chan's McDonald CF.

Ooba: But it's a fact only children are cute.

Han: That's right, in the end, we love Shoujo (everyone nods vigorously).

Shinada: Yeah, I hope we'll walk the true path of Lolicon, hand in hand.

Ooba: Agreed. There's no other path for Lolicon than loving Shoujo.

Han: Well then, let's go see the girls at the Ayase Kindergarten right away.

Shinada: I'll have to buy the autumn issue of 'Kawaii Kodomo Fuku' (かわいい子ども服) on the way home. Toshiko-chan's in it.

Ooba: I'll have to get the new in-car poster of Yumiko-chan.

Yumiko-chan
[Naming: Ooba Yahou (大庭椰邦)]

・Kodomo Boutique Model
・Currently appearing in posters for the Industrial Bank of Japan
・Also appearing in TV dramas

Toshiko-chan
[Naming: Shinada Toshio (品田俊夫)]

・Kodomo Boutique Kawaii Kodomo Fuku Model
・Currently appearing in CF for McDonalds, Takara, etc.

Keiko-chan
[Naming: Han Keiko (半径子)]

・Kodomo Boutique Kawaii Kodomo Fuku Model
・Currently appearing in Posters for Matsuya Ginza

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Illustration by Fukuyama Keiko (福山慶子)

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Bouquet to Lolita Complex

By Terada Kinji (寺田欣司)


Lolicon, apparently it's an abbreviation for the so-called Lolita Complex. But what exactly is Lolita Complex?

Although it may be inaccurate to call it a first love, it is said the first person a boy experiences sexual attraction has an immeasurable influence on the formation of his personality. While individual differences may exist for boys, it's generally a girl of a similar age who is close to him, i.e. a Shoujo or his mother. As a result, this unconsciously determines and remains a controlling factor in a man's view of women. Furthermore, while these feelings may remain strong even after adulthood, if we were to categorise such feelings as Lolicon or Mothercon, then all men in the world would fall neatly into either of these categories, and it would be nonsense to label them as 'abnormal'. Furthermore, if the first person a boy experiences sexual attraction is a Shoujo, she will grow as he grows, and even if the person is his mother, it's said these feelings will easily evolve into affection for women in general as he grows. Therefore, these types of feelings should be seen as a transitional part of the growth process.

Sometimes, rarely, a boy may encounter a case where his first sexual attraction is not a real person. It could be a fictional character, such as the heroine of a novel. These heroines are often depicted as the zenith of some ideal, and may possess an appeal that is impossible to find in reality, making them unforgettable for the boy. Of course, these feelings are likely to be transient, but a character who remains the same in a book or screen, never betraying him no matter how much he grows, can sometimes be the perfect escape. For example, such feelings can purify a broken heart and disillusionment with real-life women. This can be particularly comforting for those who are extremely shy or have significant complexes about themselves as men. However, it would be premature to hastily conclude such feelings are abnormal. This is because, if only the problems they're carrying within themselves are resolved, they'll immediately begin to feel the same emotions as those around them, and since their desire for a Shoujo is secondary, if they're able to meet the woman of their true ideal, the feelings they have had towards the substitute object will surely and quickly vanish. In other words, their feelings toward the fictional Shoujo do not take top priority.

So, what about those who, for whatever reason, are only interested in real Shoujo? Of course, we must exclude those who actually desire adult women, as they only see the Shoujo as a means to an end. Their potential targets are generally females who, internally, have yet to establish a feminine identity and who are in a stage where most feminine functions have not yet manifested physically, in what could be called an 'undifferentiated' (未分化) state. However, these targets are always girls, not the so-called Hermaphroditism, nor are they boys. Although they're in an 'undifferentiated' state known as a child, they're a being whose fundamental premise is that they will eventually become an adult woman. In other words, what we see here are Shoujo who are destined to become adult women in the future. They share the feeling that once she becomes an adult woman, she will no longer be capable of emotional attachment, but on the other hand, dolls and other such beings do not grow old, and therefore are not alive and cannot be objects of attachment. Perhaps this dilemma—wanting them to continue growing but not quite reaching adulthood is what we call a complex. In the end, they are capturing a single moment in the process of growing up, and observing changes that occur during that moment. In other words, the so-called 'differentiation' (微分) is a moment in the flow of time known as growing up.

However, this manipulation amounts to nothing more than the creation of an idealised image that doesn't exist in reality. It is, so to speak, a process that takes place within the individual's mind, and is likely to be carried out consciously. Therefore, the ideals and emotional movements that an individual holds in their mind are no longer something others have any right to say anything about, and so long as they remain private, they should not be intruded upon by anyone. First of all, even those who harbour such emotions are able to suppress them, and it's unlikely they would be unashamed about publicly expressing their heartfelt feelings. At the very least, one cannot dismiss those who continue to suffer and endure without any shame simply as 'abnormal'. If we call this metamorphosis (Hentai), then transitional emotions are appropriate in the sense of metamorphosis (Hentai), in the sense of a larva passing through the chrysalis and then becoming an adult.

However, so-called Lolicon has become a popular fashion trend. Articles like 'Lolicon have now gained civil rights' (今やロリコンは市民権を得た) are everywhere. But there's no sign of the suffering that comes with the typical complex. They're simply filled with an abnormal amount of cheerfulness and joy. It's doubtful how many true 'Lolicon' are actually participating. I think the easy-going public who jump on anything purely for the sake of novelty, and the media that has picked up on this, are simply performing a farce without any of the 'involved parties'. I hope the current trend isn't just a fad, but if it's a game, it will eventually come to an end. When that time comes, how much hope will there be among those left behind? In the end, so-called Lolicon may once again be relegated to the fringes of society as 'abnormal'. However, I cannot help but think what is truly abnormal is the current boom, the people who support it, and the people who don't question it at all.

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Illustration by Kobayashi Kazuhiko (小林和彦)

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Essay Double Feature

By Tadaki Yasuhiko (只木泰彦)


From Shoujo Love to 2D-Con



From my experience and observations, I believe Shoujo Lovers generally have an innocence orientation. This is also true for myself, and the Shoujo Lovers around me, even if they may have differences in preferences, also have an innocence orientation. So, why do Shoujo Lovers have an innocence orientation? This is because the Shoujo that are the object of their love are children, pure and innocent beings who lack the unpleasant wisdom most adults possess. This is why Shoujo Lovers have an innocence orientation. With this in mind, allow me to develop the following theory.

First, let's consider whether Shoujo Lovers actually maintain contact with Shoujo. Perhaps it's fair to say in modern times, they barely maintain contact. This is because, especially in recent years, a large number of Shoujo photobooks or books about Shoujo are being published. I believe this is a sign the desires of Shoujo Lovers are not being fulfilled. If Shoujo Lovers actually maintain contact with Shoujo, this phenomenon wouldn't occur. As such, since most Shoujo Lovers are unable to maintain actual contact with Shoujo, they're forced to materialise Shoujo as an ideal in their own minds. (The ideal here refers to purity, the symbol of Shoujo.) This materialisation is unrealistic because there's no contact with an actual Shoujo, and because it's carried out solely through the symbol of purity. So what kind of Shoujo image is this materialisation? This can be seen by examining the Shoujo created by Miyazaki Hayao (宮崎駿) and Azuma Hideo (吾妻ひでお), who are generally considered to be Lolicon. Miyazaki's Shoujo are, as many would agree, 'girls who don't pee or poop'. In addition, Azuma's Shoujo image, according to him, is a 'plant-like girl'. Considering these two images of Shoujo, it's clear the ideal for Shoujo Lovers is an unrealistic girl who doesn't defecate or eat much food. So where can one find such a girl? There are two main directions. One is through Doll Love. Dolls don't defecate or eat food, and most are cute. This fits the ideal, but dolls don't have personalities. The person who owns the doll can assign a personality to it themselves (i.e. by giving the doll a name, etc.), but many find this unsatisfying. This is where the other direction, 2-Dimensional Complex, comes in. In their case, they have a personality within the work, and what's more, it's usually a personality that fits a personal preference. This is because the people who draw these girls are themselves Lolicon, so they usually depict desires common among Lolicon readers and viewers.

In this way, Shoujo Lovers, separated from real Shoujo, move on to Doll Love or 2-Dimensional Complex. However, it's important to note here that this is a fashion 2-Dimensional Complex. Among the current wave of Lolicon and 2D-con, there are also many fashion Lolicon and 2D-con. From what I've seen, they're merely superficial lovers. (Meaning, they only take a quick look and make a fuss about how ○○-chan is cute because she has a cute face and so on. The theory I've just outlined doesn't seem to apply to these fashion 2D-Complex people. However, it may be possible for them to proceed towards the opposite direction.)


From Paternal Love to Shoujo Love


We Shoujo Lovers carry these feelings. Isn't the love we feel for small girls merely a variation of paternal love almost all men possess? Of all the love a man can possess, paternal love is the most intense. Love for a woman is just as strong as love for a wife, which fades over time. Love for a son is different from love for a woman, and love for one's mother fades as one grows older. In contrast, love for a daughter exists as an eternal love, perhaps because she's the woman one raised. While these feelings are latent in most men, they are generally thought to only emerge when one becomes a father. However, they can also appear in unmarried men. This is the so-called Shoujo Love.

So why doesn't this emotion manifest in the average unmarried man? Either it's because they're seduced by local women the same age as them, and these feelings don't awaken, or because they haven't fully gotten over their mother. And a man needs to be considerably old to no longer be seduced by women and to fully get over their mother, and by that time, he begins to develop an interest in sailor uniforms and knee-high socks, which are said to be a Middle-age Hobby.

However, why does paternal love lead to Shoujo Love? To answer this question, we must consider the age range that is the target of paternal love. First of all, since he is the one raising her, the target are girls low in age. Also, since he does not see them solely as sexual objects, his target includes girls around the time of their first period. However, since he sees them as members of the opposite sex, they cannot be babies where it's impossible to know the difference between boys and girls. For these reasons, the target age range is limited to around 5 to 14 years old. This target age range is completely consistent with Shoujo Love, and so paternal love leads to Shoujo Love.

Well then, is this kind of Shoujo Love a modern-day pathological phenomenon? No, this emotion did not originate in modern times. For example, in 'The Tale of Genji' (源氏物語), Hikaru Genji's love for Murasaki no Ue (紫の上) (who met Hikaru Genji when she was 10 years old) and in 'Naomi' (痴人の愛), the narrator's love for Naomi (who he met when she was 15 years old), are examples of this emotion. It also seems to appear in 'Through the Looking-Glass' (鏡の国のアリス) published by Roman Bunko. Therefore, this emotion is not a modern-day pathological phenomenon, but rather something that is possessed by a significant number of men, throughout history and across the world.

As you can see, Shoujo Love is not Hentai; on the contrary, it is something most men latently possess within them. And we Shoujo Lovers are simply people who happened to awaken to this desire early, and it's unfair for society to treat us as Hentai.

Let's stand up, my fellow Shoujo Lover gentlemen! Let's cease using words like complex and walk with our heads held high! (Nevertheless, I wish for an adopted daughter...)


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I Want to Touch a Youjo's Shoulders

By Terada Tooru(寺田融)


When one says 'Lolicon', it can refer to a wide variety of things, and in recent years, I sometimes feel its scope has completely vanished. Given the current situation, there's a strong risk there'll be a one-sided definition of 'Lolicon' that won't conform to the reality. However, without a certain degree of 'content to show', the very meaning of 'Lolicon', which originally referred to a very specific content, will become unclear. But when discussing 'Lolicon', many tend to analyse it from the psychological perspective that 'Lolicon' = 'Paedophilia'. Conversely, as it now stands (albeit in certain parts of the world), the word 'Lolicon' is used almost without restriction.

As for its unrestricted use, there are age-specific categories that include high schoolgirls, but this is for 'Shoujo Lover Studies' (少女愛好学), so we would like to classify it in a qualitative manner by limiting it to 14 years old.

First, there is 'Lolicon' as an adjustment disorder known psychologically as paedophilia. Some commercial magazines and doujinshi zines, under the guise of 'Lolicon Analysis' seem to analyse and explain it as 'Lolicon' = 'Paedophilia'. However, since Shoujo Love that isn't an adjustment disorder does not necessarily need to be Shoujo Love psychologically, I would like to call this 'Hobby Lolicon' in the sense it is not a 'sickness'. 'Lolicon' isn't originally a psychological term, and in my opinion, even if a person doesn't possess the necessary conditions for paedophilia, if their Shoujo Love as a formative experience, or trauma, that acts as an escape from society is recognised as pathological (socially, not psychologically), they can be included in the category of 'Lolicon' (despite not constituting 'paedophilia' from a psychological perspective).

Meaning, among 'Hobby Lolicon', if Shoujo Love deepens and becomes serious enough to take a pathological form, then it can be called 'Lolicon'.

In contrast, the majority of 'Hobby Lolicon', whose Shoujo Love hasn't progressed to a pathological level, purely engage with their Shoujo Love as a hobby, and in fact, it doesn't have a significant impact on their sexual relations with adult women or their married life. It's very difficult to say whether such people can be called 'Lolicon'; although (on the surface) they certainly experience Shoujo Love, their true nature is completely normal.

So far, I've broadly divided so-called 'Lolicon' into 'Lolicon as an adjustment disorder' and 'Hobby Lolicon', I will further state I believe 'Hobby Lolicon' who have a pathological substance can be called 'Lolicon'. However, in fact, there are those who are being called, or calling themselves, 'Lolicon' among the recent trend. These include people who are simply fans of anime characters, people who just like 'cute girls' in manga and so on, and people who have jumped on the current trend by pretending to be Lolicon even though they don't actually experience Shoujo Love, or who are pretending to be 'Minor Burikko' by doing so. I would like to call these people 'Fashion Lolicon'. While 'Hobby Lolicon' are essentially normal and it's purely a hobby for them, they do have a substance of Shoujo Love, but in the case of 'Fashion Lolicon', even if they call themselves 'Lolicon', it's difficult to actually call them Shoujo Lovers.

Of course, sometimes this can trigger one truly falling in love with a Shoujo, but the current trend is making a fuss about it in a completely superficial manner.

It seems there are a lot of people who are into that sort of thing. That's fine, but I think there's a problem calling those people 'Lolicon'. Incidentally, in the 'Factor Classification' section of 'Shoujo Love Studies', there is something called 'Hobby Lolicon', but this classification is somewhat different, so please don't confuse it with the 'Hobby Lolicon' these days. That is an analysis based on factors and the 'factor being a hobby'. Lolicons have the nuance of 'liking Shoujo Love' more than 'liking Shoujo', and for the purposes of this essay, these types will generally be included with 'Fashion Lolicon'. (That being said, there's no denying this has become a subject of confusion.)

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Women Bending Over Backwards

By Kinashi Kayo (木梨香代)

What's This!? A Lolicon Essay Written by a Woman!!?



It seems women in general have a fairly strong prejudice against Lolicon. According to a friend of mine, Lolicon=Hentai or unpopular men. Perhaps because I've been exposed to anime and manga (prowling in Lolita Hobby) for a long time, I didn't bear any prejudice against Lolicon, and thought I was somewhat immune to them. But when I first came into contact with the reality of Lolicon, I was still shocked. As I watched them looking at the magazine 'Kodomo Boutique Summer Issue' (こどもブティック夏の号), and muttering, "This model is cute!" And, "This girl is better." I recoiled for a moment, and at the same time, I was overcome with a complex mixture of disbelief, surprise, and bits of amazement and amusement, wondering, "Are these guys for real?"

I have recovered from my initial shock and have now become completely immune to Lolicon. I have even come to accept their existence. However, that doesn't mean I understand them. In fact, I think while women may be able to accept Lolicon, they cannot truly understand them.

This is because when a woman looks at a child, a sense of maternal instinct inevitably accompanies it. This prevents women from understanding the otherworldly state of mind in the way a 'Lolicon looks at children'. (This is why the average woman assumes Lolicon=Hentai.) Therefore, even if a woman can understand Lolicon to the point of accepting it, it's simply impossible for her to comprehend the subtle psychology that makes men turn to Lolicon. In short, the Lolicon world is one where a women's sensibilities cannot keep up with it.

In any case, even though I accept Lolicon, as a woman, they are still a mysterious existence to me. Sometimes they appear to me as idealists, and sometimes as just eccentrics. But I don't have a fixed image of them. I still cannot grasp their true nature.

Perhaps because of this, my interest in Lolicon has only grown stronger, and recently, to my own horror, I have begun to think, "If this is how it is, then I should see what the future holds for these people from a woman's perspective. Even if I cannot understand them, surely as a woman, I can at least watch them as a spectator."


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I am Normal

By Han Keiko (半・径子)


Even when simply discussing Youjo Love, the psychological structure of this can be divided into several types.

1. Youjo Love as Compensation:
Because one's own desires aren't satisfied socially or in reality, one attempts to satisfy them through Youjo.

(a) Sexual Desire Resolution
(b) Protect Desire Resolution
(c) Self-Expression Desire Resolution
And so on.

2. Youjo Love as Regression:
Anxious about the harshness of real life and longing for the age of dreams, this type regresses mentally to their Shounen days and views Youjo as objects of sexual and romantic love.

3. Youjo Love via Excess Desire:
Due to their extremely strong sexual and dominance desires (appetite?), this type lacks emotion and aggressively seeks to dominate Youjo, not just as ordinary objectification, but beyond ordinary objectification.

The following is slightly different from the above three.

4. Youjo Love with a Pure Meaning:
Rather than a psychological construct resulting from a defence against anxiety, but rather a consciously directed behaviour. These types can be motivated by religious reasoning, or a pursuit of artistic or psychological research.

While a detailed classification isn't very meaningful, it should be easy to analyse which of these factors is dominant in a particular person with Youjo Love. The Youjo Love I will discuss from now on will be type 2, which is the most creative, leaving aside type 4. What is expressed in type 1 (c) is simply an ability that any average adult could possess. Also, for type 1, if they could obtain something other than Youjo (such as a girlfriend or wife), their desire for Youjo will be satisfied, whereas for type 2, there's a strong necessity for there to be Youjo. Therefore, Youjo Love in a pure sense can be said to be type 2 (leaving aside type 4).

2

The Lolicon described below refers to the above type 2 Youjo Love. Lolicon is formed through each individual's childhood sensibilities. In other words, for Lolicon to emerge, one needs to have been imaginative and creative during elementary school. This is known as a schizoid temperament, and they're often serious, stubborn, nature-loving, sensitive, and easily hurt. In terms of body-type, many are tall and slim.

He is usually troubled by some kind of inferiority complex, but at the same time, he has a very strong desire to make up for it. Naturally, this desire is directed towards females in his school grade, i.e. elementary schoolgirls, but this desire is never fulfilled. The stronger the admiration at this time, the more likely he is to develop a stronger Lolicon later on. As he grows up, these childhood desires are pushed to the subconscious, and his desires turn to something else. For example, in middle or high school, he may be fascinated by schoolgirls in sailor uniforms. (Those with a strong desire for this are more likely to develop a preference for sailor uniforms later on.)

Now then, these deep-seated desires from elementary school can sometimes surface subconsciously, to the point they affect one's subjectivity. This is called Lolicon, and Lolicon refers to the subconscious, so there's no such thing as a conscious Lolicon. If one looks deep within one's own mind, one will find Lolicon is quietly lurking in the realm of the unconscious.

There are many possible triggers for Lolicon to emerge subconsciously, including anime, novels, manga, and actual interactions with Youjo. For example, from the above, it can be seen that in anime, adventure stories in which Shounen rescue Shoujo are likely to bring out Lolicon. However, in any case, whether or not the seeds of Lolicon were planted during elementary school will determine whether or not a person will become a Lolicon.

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As mentioned earlier, Lolicon exists in the unconscious realm. Therefore, like anima, it can have creative or destructive properties. The big difference between anima and Lolicon is anima is formed by the mother.

"In order to establish a relationship with the unconscious, it is essential the ego be sufficiently established so it cannot be overwhelmed or drowned out by the unconscious, and so the dangers of interacting with it are avoided."

When he's conquered by Lolicon, he begins to project it onto the real world, he'll become obsessed with elementary schoolgirls and become socially maladjusted. If he can draw spiritual power from Lolicon, and if he's a creative type, that power will aid his talents and develop his individuality; Lolicon will remind him of his imaginative and free childhood. As long as there are Shounen with big dreams in any era and in any world, Lolicon will be born from they who've become adults.

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Oh, Shoujo
Oh, Shoujo dashing through the fields
Smiling in the wind
Admiring the flowers and playing with the birds
Never forget
Her smile

Oh, my distant love


Gift to the Eternal Shoujo

By Mizukami Sumi (水上澄)
Illustrations: Mochidzuki Tomomi (望月智充)



An innocent Shoujo dashing across the meadow. My beloved. The Shoujo is my eternal yearning from my boyhood days long past, my regret for my first fulfilled love.

Why do people live? No one knows the answer. All we know is that we're alive. Whether that is good or evil, I cannot say. But I am alive. Everyone must live their life. And sometimes we grow weary of life, grow weak-hearted, and want to cling to something. Bidding farewell to this tainted world and moving on to the dreamy days of boyhood. Innocent Shoujo.

Shoujo, for me, is a symbol of an innocent, spiritual world. They are pure and live earnestly. In our tainted world...... and yet, I find myself reflecting. What is my life? Am I living earnestly? I have relied on inertia, and there's a void, as if I have left something behind. For me, a Shoujo's smile is akin to a god (神) that makes me forget everything. They run, laugh, and sing with energy. And I suffocate.

I've written a piece of rubbish that is completely unlike me. I need to return to my normal pace. I need to write something about my view of Shoujo. So what is Lolicon? I don't believe Lolicon=paedophilia. I see paedophilia as nothing more than an abnormal sexual desire for Youjo. To me, Lolicon is an eternal yearning. Shoujo are platonic beings who cannot be objects of sexual desire. For me, Shoujo are symbols of a platonic world.

Shoujo being beautiful is because they are truly lively, pure, and earnest. I want all of them to continue smiling, and to continue having dreams and aspirations. That's how I want to watch over them. People may say life cannot be resolved by petty words alone. But why must filth be a prerequisite? People sarcastically say we would be happy if we could live our lives seeing only pretty things, but that doesn't mean we can say filth is a necessary evil. Wouldn't it be a blessing to live without knowing filth? People should live purely. Tolerating social evil as social evil is nothing more than self-indulgence.

Shoujo are the very symbol of purity. There's no one who does not rejoice in purity. There's no one who does not desire human happiness. Shoujo are a symbol of human potential. I send my blessings to these Shoujo. I hope happiness will come to them. I hope they will be able to love others. I truly love Shoujo. I love human beings. Human beings, please live. The very act of living is what makes us valuable. Please do not waste your lives. To Shoujo.

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This issue of Bessatsu Anicom is roughly 80 pages long, and I only translated less than a quarter of it. It has a Youjo/Shoujo Dictionary with joke entries such as "Ammonia: Anne's pee" and "Android: Anne-type Dutch Wife". And because I seem incapable of ending any of these posts with a positive attitude, page 73 is dedicated to the abyss, a Shoujo nude photobook title and cameraman list by Shinada Toshio (品田俊夫).

I think this is a good opportunity to return to the ACROSS article on the first page of this thread where Takekuma Kentarou and Okada Toshio concluded that they were 'Fashion Lolicon' to differentiate themselves from 'True Lolicon'. But translating this issue of Anicom, my personal question remains: what kind of 'Lolicon' is the animator, Mochidzuki Tomomi? Azuma Hideo calls himself a 'Hobby Lolicon' and Ogata, during his interview with Kera, says Ootsuka Eiji isn't a Lolicon (since he's the only source, it was Ootsuka Eiji who removed the photographs from Manga Burikko because he's a shoujo-manga-loving Ojisan, not a Lolicon).

Since I want to move on to other people and topics outside the abyss, I'll use this opportunity to link this old article by Patrick Galbraith in 2009:
Innocence Lost: The Dark Side of Akihabara (Patrick Galbraith)


In the comments, there's a super long argument between multiple users, and at certain points, It's easy for me to forget they're arguing about junior idols when defenders say this is 'part of Japanese culture'. One of the users mentioned watching the video that Kitahara Minori talked about that Hex wanted a source. The worst thing is that the magazine 'Moecco' is still available for sale on amazon.co.jp and has a twitter account (thankfully not followed by anyone I follow). There's something irritating about being unable to order R18 manga outside Japan from amazon.co.jp and Taniguchi Kei's Twitter account being banned, but it's fine for someone from Australia or Ireland to order Moecco and for Moecco to have a 15 year-old twitter account with thousands of followers. Moe in the late 1990s and early 2000s was a very useful word to separate anime and manga fans from the 3D side of Lolicon, but the idol industry cannot leave people with 2D-Complex alone.

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I notice how ero-gekiga is always brought up when it came to talks about the nude gravures. so far I wonder if there anymore information on ero-gekiga in the 1960s and 1970s? Seems like understanding the history of Ero-Gekiga is pretty important and what was happening during those times.
 
I notice how ero-gekiga is always brought up when it came to talks about the nude gravures. so far I wonder if there anymore information on ero-gekiga in the 1960s and 1970s? Seems like understanding the history of Ero-Gekiga is pretty important and what was happening during those times.
Hello eromaker12, for a moment, I thought you were Jeko's rebranded account.

The history of ero-gekiga comprised the majority of chapters in Yonezawa Yoshihiro's 'Postwar Eromanga History' (戦後エロマンガ史). I translated a few chapters for this thread if you want a sample of what to expect when you obtain your own copy. Kera wanted to find out if it was possible to negotiate the right to reprint Yonezawa's books digitally, but so far, I haven't heard any news on that front. The word nude (ヌード) appears 47 times in Yonezawa's book and he shows a lot of visual samples of nude gravure from various publications.

Chris is friends with a user called Show Showcase. They list themselves as being from the United Kingdom and have a Twitter (Link) and Facebook account (Link), but I believe they're Japanese (?) and very passionate about ero-ekiga. Translating vintage works into English so they can be appreciated by a broader audience.
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While this person isn't doujin related, they are very friendly and knowledgeable about ero, pink films and gekiga.
Out of the four editors responsible for the manga-side of the Lolicon Boom. Kawamoto Kouji, Takatori Ei, Ogata Katsuhiro, and Ootsuka Eiji. Kawamoto Kouji and Takatori Ei both have roots as young ero-gekiga magazine editors with Takatori Ei handling the more prominent magazine Erogenica (漫画エロジェニカ) during his tenure as its third editor-in-chief. Yonezawa Yoshihiro was friend with Kawamoto Kouji, and both of them shared a passion for a wide range of manga with Kawamoto Kouji writing a gekiga essay for Labyrinth's 'Comic Critique' and a rental manga list doujinshi that Kera obtained and reprinted. One of Kawamoto's gekiga editor peers, Kamewada Takeshi, was notoriously lazy that he often left the editing of his magazine, Gekiga Alice (劇画アリス) in the hands of Yonezawa Yoshihiro and the other members of Labyrinth, hence why the history of the Third-rate Gekiga Movement is an important documented part of Comiket history.

Kawamoto Kouji wrote a book about his participation in the industry and its history in 'Showa History of Porno Magazines' (ポルノ雑誌の昭和史), which you can purchase and read digitally.

The next translation I'm going to upload is going to include a short ero-manga history lesson by Yonezawa Yohishiro, which includes ero-gekiga history. It might not have the answers you seek, but it should be a nice springboard of topics to seek and research on your own time.
 
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