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AK-12

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vtweeters seem physically incapable of not starting pointless idiotic drama
How else do you think they will get some attention that they seek so much? Being a funny and entertaining VTuber? Of course not, that would take a fun personality and skill playing games and be a real fan of those hobbies. And VTweeters like this have not even one of those required things.
yes loli is illegal in the uk.
Just another example of what a retarded shithole Airstrip 1 is. If a muzzie pedo openly grooms and touches kids, the coppers sleep. If a grandma calls that goatfucker a pedo n***er, glown***ers will raid the grannys house with so much force and weapons like she was the embodiment of 50x Brenton Tarrants
 
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ninja8tyu

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We're really at the point where literal overt racists are trying to act as if they're normal and moral against lolicons.
Profile if you want to check it out.

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It's rather mundane and the usual, but I figured I'd archive it anyway.
though for some reason, today's a bad day to archive things. ~#5600 in queue, and i'm still waiting for it to be done lol
Just another example of the kind of people that like to censor shit.

Also, this dude is bothering his friends and random people out of nowhere just to complain lmao
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Also an alleged white supremacist is also throwing hands.
I scrolled a little bit and I couldn't verify if this dude really is, but considering that the above racist is happily interacting with his tweets, I wouldn't be surprised.
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hm, an nsfw alt? i wonder what that might hold?
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A BLM LGBTQ+ dude liked a white supremacist's tweet.
I wonder if they've decided to stop hiding the fact they're one and the same?
At this point, Horseshoe Theory should be considered a fact.

Speaking of that dude.
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This dude is attempting to build an archive of things against the lolicons in order to try and prove them wrong.
Guess how well that's going?

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Literally only one entry lmao, and it's absolutely stupid
A 40-year old entry, of which that specific case is questionable, because the fucking feds likely planted evidence on him to to use as a case to try and stigmatize the otaku back then
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Also only one entry, and it actually goes against his point lmao
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I also found what triggered the dude to make his new alt to try and own the lolicons.
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For someone who apparently is BLM and LGBTQ+, he sure didn't mind teaming up with literal racists and ableists.
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And while I'm still typing this up, this is still going on.
The furries have no mind jumping on-board despite having a higher predator count.
hope you check that nsfw alt earlier and noticed one of the white supremicists is actually a furry as well
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As usual, people are using Google Translate to make a point.
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It's really the same cycle of arguments the antis use.
All of them are blatantly false, loaded as fuck, leading as fuck, or straight-up act as if they have any semblance of understanding of anything about the world.
It's rather tiresome, but I may as well record this as an example of what lolicons have to go through because of idiots preaching normalcy and purity.
 

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Narbray

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We're really at the point where literal overt racists are trying to act as if they're normal and moral against lolicons.
Profile if you want to check it out.

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It's rather mundane and the usual, but I figured I'd archive it anyway.
though for some reason, today's a bad day to archive things. ~#5600 in queue, and i'm still waiting for it to be done lol
Just another example of the kind of people that like to censor shit.

Also, this dude is bothering his friends and random people out of nowhere just to complain lmao

Also an alleged white supremacist is also throwing hands.
I scrolled a little bit and I couldn't verify if this dude really is, but considering that the above racist is happily interacting with his tweets, I wouldn't be surprised.
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hm, an nsfw alt? i wonder what that might hold?
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A BLM LGBTQ+ dude liked a white supremacist's tweet.
I wonder if they've decided to stop hiding the fact they're one and the same?
At this point, Horseshoe Theory should be considered a fact.

Speaking of that dude.
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This dude is attempting to build an archive of things against the lolicons in order to try and prove them wrong.
Guess how well that's going?

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Literally only one entry lmao, and it's absolutely stupid
A 40-year old entry, of which that specific case is questionable, because the fucking feds likely planted evidence on him to to use as a case to try and stigmatize the otaku back then
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Also only one entry, and it actually goes against his point lmao
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I also found what triggered the dude to make his new alt to try and own the lolicons.

For someone who apparently is BLM and LGBTQ+, he sure didn't mind teaming up with literal racists and ableists.
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And while I'm still typing this up, this is still going on.
The furries have no mind jumping on-board despite having a higher predator count.
hope you check that nsfw alt earlier and noticed one of the white supremicists is actually a furry as well
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As usual, people are using Google Translate to make a point.
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It's really the same cycle of arguments the antis use.
All of them are blatantly false, loaded as fuck, leading as fuck, or straight-up act as if they have any semblance of understanding of anything about the world.
It's rather tiresome, but I may as well record this as an example of what lolicons have to go through because of idiots preaching normalcy and purity.
wooaah that's a amazing capture's compilation:salute:
 

ninja8tyu

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Daily Bullshit Thread #2
As an archive of the usual bullshit lolicons get.

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I think just by looking at this image, you can tell where the story's going.
Daily Bullshit no. who fuckin' knows at this point
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Apparently, before he decided to prove my point, he was simping for Awesome Luigi Facts.
The Awesome Facts Gimmick Hive have a huge abundance of kids to get nudes from, which is genuinely surprising, but at this point, maybe these kids deserve to be exploited.
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As usual, the same old "Lolis lead to the real thing."
No one has ever proven that any piece of fiction has ever led to real world crimes, not even fucking once throughout the entire course of human history.
But of course, the Geometry Dash Kid thinks himself to be an expert.

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Like I said, maybe these kids deserve to have their nudes permanently spread on the web, because this kid's a fucking psychopath.
"I was being nice but" you quickly assume and say as fact several things which are considered negative before that comment, and then quickly jump to leaving more insults.

Because what says "I was being nice" more than quickly abandoning any supposed respect and good will than literally jumping to this at a moment's notice?
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It's rather obvious he never had the intent to be nice or have a discussion, but somehow he thinks he can sneak in the little bullshit that he was being nice.

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Like I said: This kid's a fuckin' psychopath.
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apparently today's also a bad day to archive things; taking forever again

It's also rather interesting that he has no problem talking about 8th graders getting pussy, but when it comes to drawings, suddenly it's immoral.
Guess it's alright to make sexual jokes about real minors, but completely immoral to sexualize a drawing.

Of course, one might argue that it's fine for children to make such jokes among themselves.
Aaaaaaaaaaaand then he claims he isn't a kid.
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He's 100% a kid, but if he weren't, I think it's pretty obvious he's the kind of freak who actually sees the playground as his personal stripper club.
This kid is trying so hard to act mature and like an adult despite being unable to spell or use punctuation lmao

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Well, I say "act mature," but really this kid is trying to act hip and cool.
Wanna see?

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Like I said, he's a kid who's trying to be funny and act as if he has power, fame, and respect.
He's trying so hard to get attention lmao
I wonder if I should stop responding to him and see how desperate he gets?

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Is he roleplaying lmao?
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ain't that sad? no likes, retweets, or even a reply! he's really craving attention lmao

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Like I said before, he's a kid pretending to be an adult.
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Not gonna lie, I think no one would assume this person is an adult.
His entire existence screams "a kid craving attention"
I'm honestly pretty sure the only reason why he's still at this is because his parents don't give him enough attention themselves.

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No really, this is a kid.
He doesn't even understand the difference between death threats and criticism.
Honestly, considering his entire personality, I wouldn't be surprised if he sees them both as one and the same thing.

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And apparently he plays smash.
I'd say he's a groomer-in-training, but didn't a smash kid literally rape an adult?
I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he diddled a kid, even if only to just get attention on him.

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:kekw:nice ratio kid

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I hate Dream as well fyi, but this still remains as pretty... attention-seeking.
Like, this kid really can't do anything other than thrive off of negativity.
Like, I don't know if his parents don't give him enough affection, or the teachers failed to develop critical thinking skills in him, if he's just stupid, or all of the previous statements, but jesus christ, this kid has no life.
Hell, maybe he never will get one.

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Hypocrisy at full swing here, or maybe his brain's too underdeveloped to be capable of self-awareness.
He craves attention, and I'll give it to him.
Who knows, maybe I can turn this around, but then again, that rarely happens.

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So, let's play "Guess what happens next?"
A) He completely stops responding​
B) He continues to throw insults​
C) He attempts to throw proof that is faulty​

The Answer is...
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C) He tries to throw "proof" but fucking fails because he decided to cite wikipedia

I'd type what's the problem for anyone seeing this that doesn't know about this dumb fight about drawings, but I already did on Twitter. So, here you go:
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By the way, here's the wikipedia article in case you want to go through it:
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I think it's obvious, but let's also reiterate here, just in case, but even if somehow if actual CSEM were to lower crime rates, it would be unethical to employ because real children are abused to get those images.
Which again, is the main difference from lolicon and drawings in general; fictional characters do not have feelings nor sentience. They can't be abused or manipulated because the very nature of their existence makes it literally impossible to exploit them.
You could probably 'exploit' them like natural resources, but it's not the same as what the word means when it refers to a real person, with autonomy, thoughts, and emotions.

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I will be honest: Wikipedia is actually a good place to skim through about something and learn more quickly, but that's irrelevant to what makes it credible or not.
Like I said in my tweet, Wikipedia can be edited by anyone.
Anyone recall a story where a teacher edited a history article on Wikipedia and ended up having students write essays about how Hitler and Stalin were gay lovers or something?
The safest bet is to actually cite a credible source, IE: edu/org sources.

I don't find it morally irredeemable to cite articles which summarize various bits of information like wikipedia, but seriously.
Read the actual thing if you want to actually understand the thing you're talking about; stuff like wikipedia aren't primary sources, and while it's not shameful to simply get some grasp of the concept, you really aren't going to look like you know much if you're pretending to be an expert or know enough to say and argue about an issue if you plan to cite Wikipedia.

It'd be fine if people simply were to simply add and suggest ideas to learn more and to inquire more about someone's stance or opinion and enrich conversation.
Like, "I heard from [source] that [information], what're your thoughts on that/is that true/etc?"
And it's also fine to point out contradictions in logic even while being clueless, because you don't really need pieces of information to do logic.
But if you're going to do that, please get good at logical reasoning.

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Of course, this moron really doesn't know how to do any research.
I'm guessing he just typed in "lolicon is pedophilia" in the Google search bar and searched for anything that seems like it'd support his point.

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Well, guess how he responded?

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This dude really is retarded.
He's really out here trying to claim lolicon is the root of all pedophilia.

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And we're at the point actual research done about the topic is considered unreliable and proves nothing.

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So, let's drop the charade of civility.

The kid was only here to find a fight.
Might seem obvious again, but I just wanted to prove it rather firmly.
An outsider could argue that it was simply due to "initial turmoil" or something along those lines.
That's your proof they really aren't here to be human; they're here to be inhumane sadistic assholes.
They never cared.
They're Antis.

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Some might consider it harsh that I'd treat a kid this way, but honestly, anyone who thinks that is an idiot.
Kids are some of the most sadistic motherfuckers on this planet.
There have been plenty of stories of kids bullying others enough to make them jump off a cliff, drowning other kids in bodies of water, a lethal prank "surprisingly" "gone wrong," and so on.

Many censorship advocates often say, "Think of the children!"
Trust me. If they can't be mature, smart, and grown up enough to not get fucked over by a couple of drawings and some video games, then they're probably just shitty human beings.
The only cases which any fictional media has "encouraged" someone to reenact a cruelty in reality are from those who were already fucked up morally to begin with.

If a kid truly thinks it's okay to bully an odd person because "family guy did it," moons two fucking kids because "the simpsons did it," brutalizes and kills others because "newgrounds did it," I think that says more about their inhumanity, how they're the ones who are actually fucked up, how they're incapable of independent and critical thought, and how they don't deserve any respect as a person.
If anyone thinks it's okay to enact cruelty because some form of media says it's okay, then they're the ones who are fucked up.
But hey, let's keep blaming the media.

Ironically, when everything's banned, they'll have nothing to scapegoat and cover themselves with.
With nothing left, they'll scrape for any excuse to hide the fact they're not human.
They'll scrape for any scapegoats to hide that they don't deserve any respect.

While it'd be entertaining to see that happen, I can't let that happen if it's at the cost of innocent lives.
So, I'll keep fighting.
For days where we can live and enjoy life without worry about idiots like these.
 

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Ellyloop

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We're really at the point where literal overt racists are trying to act as if they're normal and moral against lolicons.
Profile if you want to check it out.

Thread || Archive
It's rather mundane and the usual, but I figured I'd archive it anyway.
though for some reason, today's a bad day to archive things. ~#5600 in queue, and i'm still waiting for it to be done lol
Just another example of the kind of people that like to censor shit.

Also, this dude is bothering his friends and random people out of nowhere just to complain lmao

Also an alleged white supremacist is also throwing hands.
I scrolled a little bit and I couldn't verify if this dude really is, but considering that the above racist is happily interacting with his tweets, I wouldn't be surprised.
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hm, an nsfw alt? i wonder what that might hold?
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A BLM LGBTQ+ dude liked a white supremacist's tweet.
I wonder if they've decided to stop hiding the fact they're one and the same?
At this point, Horseshoe Theory should be considered a fact.

Speaking of that dude.
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This dude is attempting to build an archive of things against the lolicons in order to try and prove them wrong.
Guess how well that's going?

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Literally only one entry lmao, and it's absolutely stupid
A 40-year old entry, of which that specific case is questionable, because the fucking feds likely planted evidence on him to to use as a case to try and stigmatize the otaku back then
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Also only one entry, and it actually goes against his point lmao
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The Article that was cited

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I also found what triggered the dude to make his new alt to try and own the lolicons.

For someone who apparently is BLM and LGBTQ+, he sure didn't mind teaming up with literal racists and ableists.
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And while I'm still typing this up, this is still going on.
The furries have no mind jumping on-board despite having a higher predator count.
hope you check that nsfw alt earlier and noticed one of the white supremicists is actually a furry as well
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As usual, people are using Google Translate to make a point.
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It's really the same cycle of arguments the antis use.
All of them are blatantly false, loaded as fuck, leading as fuck, or straight-up act as if they have any semblance of understanding of anything about the world.
It's rather tiresome, but I may as well record this as an example of what lolicons have to go through because of idiots preaching normalcy and purity.
That punisheddelta guy isnt a racist or anything along those lines, I followed him before all his anti-loli takes and he was very much pro lgbt/blm and all that stuff. Not sure why he went on a weird anti-loli spree. Also the first guy is just a stellaris larp account
 

AK-12

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That punisheddelta guy isnt a racist or anything along those lines, I followed him before all his anti-loli takes and he was very much pro lgbt/blm and all that stuff. Not sure why he went on a weird anti-loli spree. Also the first guy is just a stellaris larp account
His virtue signalling didn't generate enough internet browny points on his worthless Twatter account so he decided to go bash a very low hanging fruit like loli art and artists, so that other retards will give him a like or 2 so he will feel at least for 5 minutes validated & that he's not a worthless cumstain and has nothing better to do in life
 

ninja8tyu

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That punisheddelta guy isnt a racist or anything along those lines, I followed him before all his anti-loli takes and he was very much pro lgbt/blm and all that stuff. Not sure why he went on a weird anti-loli spree. Also the first guy is just a stellaris larp account
i'm not sure if it somehow makes it better that the dude is a larper
rather ironic to be complaining about fiction affecting real life, then having no problems roleplaying fiction in reality
either that, or he's simping for some fictional characters by larping on us by defending the helpless lolis
 

nitwitsworld

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i'm not sure if it somehow makes it better that the dude is a larper
rather ironic to be complaining about fiction affecting real life, then having no problems roleplaying fiction in reality
either that, or he's simping for some fictional characters by larping on us by defending the helpless lolis
some people should go back to kindergarten and try again
 

ninja8tyu

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Daily Bullshit #3
This was dumb.

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Normally, this'd be the usual rant about how antis hate lolicons, but this is more related to how Antis behave toward any piece of fiction that exists.
But there's really nothing to rant about, and the only thing I have to say are two things:
  1. Antis will call literally anything pedophilia, as usual, and shouldn't be treated as sentient nor sapient
  2. Check out the massive ratios everyone's flinging at this shitgut
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Of course this account believes things can be minor-coded, but who cares.

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We got another fuckin' Gimmick account, yay
I made a giant fuckin' list of Gimmick accounts before, but I stopped keeping count after around 50 of them showed up.
But anyway, another Awesome Facts Gimmick gets fucked quickly
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Just look them all up here: QRT

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Well, it appears they aren't against artistic expression and that they just think NSFW drawings of Boyfriend and Girlfriend are just Pedophilia and is just weird.
Although, like I've said before, it's absolutely fine to think something is weird and disgusting...

I think it's pretty reprehensible to shout "pedophilia" at anything.
We can argue semantics about what it actually is, but I really don't give a damn, considering no one with a degree in psychology is discussing the topic.
Pedophilia has always referred to "child rapist" in common usage, despite it meaning "sexual attraction toward children" more specifically in technical use.

Honestly, assuming he isn't lying and doesn't hold ill-will, it really shows just how much language has changed.
"Pedophilia" no longer means "child rapist" or "sexual attraction toward children" anymore.
It's really become a synonym for "freak" or "creep," but the stigma and emotional weight remains the same as if one who were accused of that had raped a kid.

It's rather interesting in that people whine about how people get offended over slurs because they're just words, but now a word which no longer holds any weight to what it originally means in common use offends them. Along with the converse which those offended by words have no problem offending using those words.



Well, whatever the case is, this was dumb, as usual.

This wasn't even related to lolicon other than "sexualizing fictional character is pedophilia and you should feel bad."
Hell, the dude doesn't really try to evoke the "you should feel bad" part at all; only looking at the surface, he just thinks it's weird.


But again, whatever the case is, what the fuck kinda dumbass do you have to be calling a couple of 19 year olds lusting for each other pedophilia?
Besides an Anti, I mean.
 

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AK-12

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Daily Bullshit #3
This was dumb.

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Normally, this'd be the usual rant about how antis hate lolicons, but this is more related to how Antis behave toward any piece of fiction that exists.
But there's really nothing to rant about, and the only thing I have to say are two things:
  1. Antis will call literally anything pedophilia, as usual, and shouldn't be treated as sentient nor sapient
  2. Check out the massive ratios everyone's flinging at this shitgut

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Well, it appears they aren't against artistic expression and that they just think NSFW drawings of Boyfriend and Girlfriend are just Pedophilia and is just weird.
Although, like I've said before, it's absolutely fine to think something is weird and disgusting...

I think it's pretty reprehensible to shout "pedophilia" at anything.
We can argue semantics about what it actually is, but I really don't give a damn, considering no one with a degree in psychology is discussing the topic.
Pedophilia has always referred to "child rapist" in common usage, despite it meaning "sexual attraction toward children" more specifically in technical use.

Honestly, assuming he isn't lying and doesn't hold ill-will, it really shows just how much language has changed.
"Pedophilia" no longer means "child rapist" or "sexual attraction toward children" anymore.
It's really become a synonym for "freak" or "creep," but the stigma and emotional weight remains the same as if one who were accused of that had raped a kid.

It's rather interesting in that people whine about how people get offended over slurs because they're just words, but now a word which no longer holds any weight to what it originally means in common use offends them. Along with the converse which those offended by words have no problem offending using those words.



Well, whatever the case is, this was dumb, as usual.

This wasn't even related to lolicon other than "sexualizing fictional character is pedophilia and you should feel bad."
Hell, the dude doesn't really try to evoke the "you should feel bad" part at all; only looking at the surface, he just thinks it's weird.


But again, whatever the case is, what the fuck kinda dumbass do you have to be calling a couple of 19 year olds lusting for each other pedophilia?
Besides an Anti, I mean.
That girl on the left doesn't even look like a brat. Guess the "if he/she is younger than my grandma it's 100% muh pedufilia" strawman really is true.
 

ninja8tyu

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Daily Bullshit #4
Man.

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Same ol' argument Antis like to use.
Despite making no sense.

The making of CSEM involves harm; it fundamentally can't be made without harm.
If it doesn't involve harm, then it by definition isn't CSEM.
Ex. 28 photos your mom takes of you standing next to a dumbass statue because the last 27 didn't come out as well as it could have isn't CSEM.
Ex. A drawing of a loli isn't CSEM because drawings are physically incapable of being harmed physically or mentally.

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Though, given their bio, I seriously feel like this could be bait.
But then again, Poe's law, and the fact too many people haven been shown to be serious about drawings being pedophilia.

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Note that you don't need a degree in psych to have discussions like this.
But you also don't need a degree in anything to understand the actual meaning of words.

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Google translate, the best reliable source of information regarding how another language works and what its words mean.
He didn't overtly state it, but honestly, I think it's a given at this point that he either used google, or will cite a twitter opinion thread that used google.
Either way, this dude's full of bullshit.


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You can argue that from an ethical standpoint, looking at lolicon is inherently immoral, but attempt any kind of philosophy like that with me and I will fuck you up.
Shut up kid.
You're not the arbiter of morality and justice.


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Ah fuck, it's a fucking Awesome Gimmick Account simp.
Hope this kid gets fucked by that hive of groomers.

speaking of that hive of groomers, how're they doing?
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Yeah. I feel bad for their ancestors.


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"Real pedophilia" as in, the traditional, accurate, and professional technical use of the word.
"Twitter pedophilia" is any cartoon drawing under the age of the entire lifespan of the universe.


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I feel like this is a troll, but too many people have been shown to be seriously making stupid arguments.
But this is probably a troll just to piss people off.
But it's not like people haven't cited a biased news article and wikipedia before, so eh.
Either way, this dude's a waste of flesh.


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Oh hey, look at that.
Bad drawings equates to the lifelong trauma that a kid goes through when they're abused.
Just as bad, huh.
Yet another moral arbiter. just gonna shorten it to "moral arbiter" now, because that's their entire argument and personality in the end, and sums up that line of logic quite well.
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Please don't go near the alligator pit. It's for your own safety, and it's not worth it.


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I can assume by the context that someone cited the PROTECT Act.
Gone through this before, but let's go through it, yet again:
Not only does the law not define morality, but it isn't even a fucking law because it's unconstitutional as fuck and violates the freedoms of men.
Twitter study the actual fucking law challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


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Twitter study the actual fucking law challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


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Twitter learn about psychology and terminology challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


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Pedophilia never included fiction in its definition. Please do your research.
Only tumblr and twitter uses that word in the context of drawings.


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Twitter learn about psychology and terminology challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


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Couldn't have worded it better myself.


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Surprisingly, there isn't a term in the DSM-V that I've been able to find referring to the mental illness of being unable to distinct reality and fiction.
Any doctors in training wanna make this your project to earn your Ph. D?
Discover the ratio of people unable to distingush reality from fiction and those who are able to, the cause of the human brain unable to do so, etc etc
There's your idea for ya'.


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Anyway, free lesson of the day.
All antis can be grouped up into the following arguments:
  1. Moral Arbiter
    Thinks they can determine what's right or wrong. Won't overtly admit it.
    Will constantly preach about normalcy and "think of the kids."
    Throws insults faster than the Flash can run.
    Point out that they're moral arbiters, and they soon make themselves look bad, no matter how they respond without contradicting their beliefs.
  2. Ph. D in Psychology
    Uses Google Translate thinking it's reliable.
    Says Lolicon is literally/no different/indistinguishable/essentially Pedophilia.
    Thinks Pedophilia refers to fiction and drawings.
    Assumes various things about human nature and how humans will behave/think.
    No citations beyond Wikipedia and Google.
    Point out that they're idiots who have no understanding of the human mind or any idea what they're talking about, and that they don't know shit.
    They will quickly change their stance into a Moral Arbiter or Mr. Funny Guy once you tear them down, or in the rare occasion, they may change for the better.
  3. Ph. D in Law
    Cites PROTECT Act and various other laws which all are unconstitutional and aren't enforced.
    Along with being completely irrelevant to morality.
    Point out the fact that they're idiots who have no understanding of the law, that even if whatever law they cite worked, the law doesn't determine morality, and that they're idiots.
    They will quickly change their stance into a Moral Arbiter or Mr. Funny Guy once you tear them down, or in the rare occasion, they may change for the better.
  4. Mr. Funny Guy
    Just shitposts pedo memes.
    Simply respond with one-liners and/or reply with several one of these images with a funny caption of "Here we go again":
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    They'll shift gears into one of the other three modes of coping once you tear them down with pure charisma.
Also remember to just know when to give up and let them seethe.
Many are kids, many are attention whores, many are narcissistic.
All of them want some form of attention and verification.
Depending on your mood, maybe you'll give them it, maybe you won't, but remember that only in rare cases have antis been observed to change themselves for the better.

If your attitude is to fix them, you're not going to get anywhere. They themselves must decide to change.
Facts, logic, and the like is not how you're going to win fights.
The truth only gives you certainty that you are not on the wrong side, certainty for what the world is.
Drop it every now and then, but in the end, it's not what will win the fight.
You're going to have to do way more than drop articles to change minds.


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Summarizes my thoughts completely.
Anyone who is genuinely arguing about how lolicon is immoral and uses every single repetitive argument above fails to comprehend why things are bad.
But I've never truly met anyone who has genuinely argued with good will against lolicon. Anyone who pretends to be eventually just gets caught.

Antis just don't give a damn about human life, human rights, and the value of life.

As such, they do not deserve even the most basic respect.


Threads I've Done:

Archive of Cringe
Thot Dox || Scat Lover || Cringe 3 || Birdbrain Nazi

Daily Bullshit Series
Awesome Groomer Facts** || Fought Nazis** || Fought Racists** || Daily Bullshit 2
Daily Bullshit 3 || (you are here) || Cartoon Chris Hansen || Daily Bullshit 5
Daily Bullshit 6 || Daily Bullshit 7** || Daily Bullshit 8 || Daily Bullshit 9
Daily Bullshit 10** || Daily Bullshit 10.5** || Daily Bullshit 11*** || Daily Bullshit 12
Daily Bullshit 13 || Daily Bullshit 14** || Return of the Nazis*** ||
**Mainly Archival/Lack of Explanations; Daily Bullshit started mainly to show the daily bullshit lolicons and in general anyone who likes "problematic media" have to deal with by showing examples of harassment. The explanations I added about basic ethical theories, psychological observations, and legal information to explain why they're obviously wrong ended up being my gimmick in these threads, and aren't actually supposed to be the usual. But fate had it such that this is what I do now. Yay.
***Criminal Activity: Documented cases of crimes Antis have committed. Crimes, as in doxxing and redistributing real CSEM, currently.
 

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ninja8tyu

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Remember Cartoon Chris Hansen?
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I did a little bit on him in an earlier thread as a side thing.
I won't cover into how he's wrong and how many mistakes he's made, since it's in that thread.
The Thread covers who's the main owner of the account, and what probably struck a nerve in him to make this account.

This is for showing just how much he's coping.

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He initially made an alt account purely to piss us off.
Technically, he did succeed.
But like, I'm pretty sure he thinks he succeeded because he thinks he's "Jesus spoke the truth, and they hated him for it," but like
In reality, he's just so incredibly stupid, ignoring bits of evidence, moral grandstanding and flaunting, and so on, is what probably irritates everyone here.

In that thread I mentioned above, I already covered how useless every piece of "evidence" and "argument" he used is incredibly stupid, bullshit, or just plain immoral.

Of course, I thought the account would've been long abandoned, since he had absolutely nothing to prove shit.
Instead, he has decided to rely on pure emotional appeal and moral grandstanding, and has continued to spout bullshit to this day.
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Or rather than just see screencaps, look through his profile and see just how active he is on there.

Straight-up, his original main account is almost barren.
Retweeting political things every now and then, but it doesn't take much scrolling to see a lot of retweets and liking his own posts.

Just from a quick scroll, check how many times he interacted with his alt:

Ironically, he also retweeted this:
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It's the parents' responsibility to regulate what their kids see at a pride event, but damn bro, why the parents gotta keep an eye on their kid and what they see on the internet because you freaks draw bad things?
I'm pretty certain this dude has groomed a kid and is projecting hardcore.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaand he doesn't even deny that he's more active on this alt lmao
He words it like I'm claiming he's boosting his numbers, but like
Anyone with the ability to critically think and read can tell from the second sentence that wasn't my point.

In my own words: "I think [Aespir]'s been more active on [Cartoon Chris Hansen Alt] than he has on his main"
and well. what else is left for me to say other than this dude's really pathetic.

Inability to read, critical thinking is likely completely underdeveloped or completely non-existent, egotistic, always talking about something controversial, etc.
This dude has no life, and the fact he has to go out and try to ruin others' lives is pitiful and tragic.
He's rather sad that his main source of enjoyment comes from being sadistic towards others.

Of course, he probably doesn't deserve pity or any form of empathy, but nevertheless, it's a tendency of mine to see the human in even the worst of people.
I doubt he'll ever shut up, ever see people who like lolicons as humans, or even feel bad that people have committed suicide or have been killed over drawings.

But in the end, my anger towards him comes from pity and sadness of his pathetic nature.

Post-Thread Ending:
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Yeah, turns out this dude's just being a dick because in the past some twats were mean to him.
The old cycle of hate, as usual.

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Though that implies this dude didn't deserve the beatings he did.
I may seem like a hypocrite, given how much I have dealt with Antis and gotten into fights with them.
But I'm really not.

I spend most of my time playing Genshin Impact, SAS 4, NES Tetris, and a couple of other games.
Finished Ruins Hunter a little while ago; it's a good game and worth playing. It's an RPG Maker game, yet it isn't, with its gameplay.
Rabi-Ribi is another good game, Terraria and Minecraft, Starbound is also pretty chill when I first played it, and so on.

Other than just playing games, I'm also trying to marathon Dragon Ball and a couple of other animes, along with job finding.

So yeah. Never could understand people who actively search for things to get mad at when there are so many fun games and pieces of media that bring joy and happiness.
I'd also recommend some of y'all to play those games too.
Helps take your mind off of how shitty the world is and focus on some of the little joys in life.
 
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ninja8tyu

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Daily Bullshit #5
Same old, getting old.

The starting tweet.
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also yay, the archive's working now

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There's a reason why death threats aren't jokes, but I doubt they have the mental capacity to understand.
Besides there possibly being a genuine threat that could be hidden in sea of trolls, it's also enough to push people into suicide.
The weight of taking a person's life, even by pure words, is a heavy one.
But I don't think they mind or are affected by that weight, considering they see no one other than their fellow Antis with their collection of mental illness gym badges as human.

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False accusations have been known to ruin lives.
Unless someone was a monk or worked on stoicism or some other philosophy of not giving a shit for several years, they naturally and obviously would be offended and attacked.
But of course, Antis repeatedly prove themselves to be incapable of that level of thought.
Or possibly, thought in general.

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That's the biggest strawman and loaded statement I've ever read.
I can bet with very large certainty that most cases of minors ever interacting with adult content come 85% from them walking into spaces they shouldn't be in.
I've rarely ever seen people with an 18+ account ever interact with a minor, and of those few cases, have intentionally introduced minors to porn.
More often than not, 18+ accounts don't interact much with accounts other than others like them.
And of every single case I've seen that Antis say regarding 18+ accounts interacting with minors, the conversation is about fucking legos or some other dumb non-controversial topic.
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And of course, this take comes from a minor, who likely is walking into this conversation himself just to look cool and get fame by ratio-ing anything he can find.
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Of course the block and mute is there for a reason, which people ought to use more, including me, but you know.
The actual intent of this message is to shift the blame.
"Oh? You're getting bullied? Just ignore them. It's your own fault for getting mad," is pretty much the actual implied message.
That's a common abuse line, by the way.
And it also ignores that it doesn't matter if they're a kid, because if they're a horrible fucking monster, they need to be put in their place and fucking learn to be decent human beings.
Kids are not innocent angels who are always right and the determinant of ethics and justice.
And you are not entitled to have others regulate what you see.

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Blatant death threat.
As usual, Antis see everyone other than themselves as lower beings.

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Of course, the same arguments loop, as usual.
It's really hard to see them as autonomous or sentient if they can't even make points beyond the same old ones which have been proven false, and always eventually just relying on dehumanization and acting like a moral arbiter.
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"It's not that bad when I do it," is basically what's being said.
Well, among several other things which is equally as stupid.

She justifies minors actively seeking out adult content and going into places they shouldn't.
Rather than blaming the kids, who are only unknowledgeable due to their youth, and who are the ones searching for content which may be disturbing for them, ala
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She instead blames the people who have a warning label on them saying "do not interact" for a reason.

She justifies rumor spreading and slandering, because if those people don't hear you say it, surely nothing bad would happen.
I think it's obvious, but that basically ruins peoples' reputations and on the worst side, helps justify to people to do horrible things to them, like murder.
She has no problems accusing others of being pedophiles, but I think everyone knows that she wouldn't like the same done to her.
Of course, with these people, it's usually "rules for thee, but not for me."

I'm pretty sure that Antis would rape and torture a kid, then unironically feel good by batting the systemic pedophilia conspiracy that is lolicon.
I say that jokingly, but if my life has taught me anything, it's that I tend to be right, even when my reasons are wrong and shouldn't work.

Update:
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My post which was shared on Kiwifarms was discovered by the person in my thread yesterday, and I found out today.
Neat. I don't think this bitch will learn anything, but neat.

Other threads I've done:
Fought Nazis** || Fought Racists** || Daily Bullshit 2 || Daily Bullshit 3
Daily Bullshit 4* || Cartoon Chris Hansen || (you are here) || Daily Bullshit 6
Daily Bullshit 7** || Daily Bullshit 8 || Daily Bullshit 9 || Daily Bullshit 10**
*Anti-Argument Categories; I did a little categorization of arguments and tactics Antis like to use when arguing against lolicon media in that thread, but those arguments also slightly applies to other forms of media Antis consider "problematic," so I marked it with an asterisk just in case people find it useful or important.
**Mainly Archival/Lack of Explanations; Daily Bullshit started mainly to show the daily bullshit lolicons and in general anyone who likes "problematic media" have to deal with by showing examples of harassment. The explanations I added about basic ethical theories, psychological observations, and legal information to explain why they're obviously wrong ended up being my gimmick in these threads, and aren't actually supposed to be the usual. But fate had it such that this is what I do now. Yay.
 
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immahnoob

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Patron of the Forums
Daily Bullshit #5
Same old, getting old.

The starting tweet.
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There's a reason why death threats aren't jokes, but I doubt they have the mental capacity to understand.
Besides there possibly being a genuine threat that could be hidden in sea of trolls, it's also enough to push people into suicide.
The weight of taking a person's life, even by pure words, is a heavy one.
But I don't think they mind or are affected by that weight, considering they see no one other than their fellow Antis with their collection of mental illness gym badges as human.

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False accusations have been known to ruin lives.
Unless someone was a monk or worked on stoicism or some other philosophy of not giving a shit for several years, they naturally and obviously would be offended and attacked.
But of course, Antis repeatedly prove themselves to be incapable of that level of thought.
Or possibly, thought in general.

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That's the biggest strawman and loaded statement I've ever read.
I can bet with very large certainty that most cases of minors ever interacting with adult content come 85% from them walking into spaces they shouldn't be in.
I've rarely ever seen people with an 18+ account ever interact with a minor, and of those few cases, have intentionally introduced minors to porn.
More often than not, 18+ accounts don't interact much with accounts other than others like them.
And of every single case I've seen that Antis say regarding 18+ accounts interacting with minors, the conversation is about fucking legos or some other dumb non-controversial topic.
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And of course, this take comes from a minor, who likely is walking into this conversation himself just to look cool and get fame by ratio-ing anything he can find.
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Of course the block and mute is there for a reason, which people ought to use more, including me, but you know.
The actual intent of this message is to shift the blame.
"Oh? You're getting bullied? Just ignore them. It's your own fault for getting mad," is pretty much the actual implied message.
That's a common abuse line, by the way.
And it also ignores that it doesn't matter if they're a kid, because if they're a horrible fucking monster, they need to be put in their place and fucking learn to be decent human beings.
Kids are not innocent angels who are always right and the determinant of ethics and justice.
And you are not entitled to have others regulate what you see.

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Blatant death threat.
As usual, Antis see everyone other than themselves as lower beings.

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Of course, the same arguments loop, as usual.
It's really hard to see them as autonomous or sentient if they can't even make points beyond the same old ones which have been proven false, and always eventually just relying on dehumanization and acting like a moral arbiter.
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"It's not that bad when I do it," is basically what's being said.
Well, among several other things which is equally as stupid.

She justifies minors actively seeking out adult content and going into places they shouldn't.
Rather than blaming the kids, who are only unknowledgeable due to their youth, and who are the ones searching for content which may be disturbing for them, ala
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She instead blames the people who have a warning label on them saying "do not interact" for a reason.

She justifies rumor spreading and slandering, because if those people don't hear you say it, surely nothing bad would happen.
I think it's obvious, but that basically ruins peoples' reputations and on the worst side, helps justify to people to do horrible things to them, like murder.
She has no problems accusing others of being pedophiles, but I think everyone knows that she wouldn't like the same done to her.
Of course, with these people, it's usually "rules for thee, but not for me."

I'm pretty sure that Antis would rape and torture a kid, then unironically feel good by batting the systemic pedophilia conspiracy that is lolicon.
I say that jokingly, but if my life has taught me anything, it's that I tend to be right, even when my reasons are wrong and shouldn't work.
Choke-full of retards attacking others not because they're doing something wrong, it's because they have a kneejerk reaction and dislike others so they try to find excuses so they're not seen as retarded assholes.
 

Narbray

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Surprisingly, there isn't a term in the DSM-V that I've been able to find referring to the mental illness of being unable to distinct reality and fiction.
this point is curious
It is known that als people can differentiate reality and fiction even at a very early age and that only in very extreme cases do they begin to come together, entering a state of psychosis or scrizophenia it may be the case, for example, that a person begins to see dementors of harry potter in real life and even fear them.
In some cases of the autism spectrum, similar things can also occur
In the case of these people it is difficult to use this against them, since the reasons why they say these things are:
1. an intellectual retardation, I am not kidding, really, I think that the WHO should take more seriously the studies on the low IQ in populations, it really would be very difficult to determine to what extent this is a problem, but a low capacity in to logic, it can lead to thoughts like these
For example, yesterday I had a discussion regarding an article where they said that in Korea it was proposed to apply laws against the symbols of Japanese imperialism, without going into detail this is idiotic at another level, but getting to the point, the point is I explained to people over and over and over again how what they do makes no sense, they are forbidding symbols as if these were the ones who did all that in the war, when they are literally that, SYMBOLS, and they can't do anything, even some They told me that they had the right to demand the Japanese since many people suffered and things like that and that they were not demanding the people, but the nation [taking into account also that NATION is something abstract that does not exist and that In the end, the real people affected by all that normalization of hatred are the Japanese themselves, who have nothing to do with what happened almost 100 years ago, and some coreans too] Anyway, the thing is that these people were simply unable to understand the difference. to between the people who did this and Japan today and that the symbols are nothing more than symbols and they did nothing and cannot do anything.
In psychology it is often said that reason and emotion are inversely proportional, that is, when one goes up the other goes down, and precisely this can happen with these people who "cannot differentiate fiction from reality in this case" simply their ability to reason is so low that your emotions take over and you just can't talk to them with sense.

2. This is known to everyone, children who want to be socially accepted and do what the pack does only for this purpose and without asking before if this is the right side or not.

The best thing here is to simply make them look bad in front of their own herd with solid, logical and scientific arguments ... and thus turn the nuts
Anyway, free lesson of the day.
All antis can be grouped up into the following arguments:
  1. Moral Arbiter
    Thinks they can determine what's right or wrong. Won't overtly admit it.
    Will constantly preach about normalcy and "think of the kids."
    Throws insults faster than the Flash can run.
    Point out that they're moral arbiters, and they soon make themselves look bad, no matter how they respond without contradicting their beliefs.
  2. Ph. D in Psychology
    Uses Google Translate thinking it's reliable.
    Says Lolicon is literally/no different/indistinguishable/essentially Pedophilia.
    Thinks Pedophilia refers to fiction and drawings.
    Assumes various things about human nature and how humans will behave/think.
    No citations beyond Wikipedia and Google.
    Point out that they're idiots who have no understanding of the human mind or any idea what they're talking about, and that they don't know shit.
    They will quickly change their stance into a Moral Arbiter or Mr. Funny Guy once you tear them down, or in the rare occasion, they may change for the better.
  3. Ph. D in Law
    Cites PROTECT Act and various other laws which all are unconstitutional and aren't enforced.
    Along with being completely irrelevant to morality.
    Point out the fact that they're idiots who have no understanding of the law, that even if whatever law they cite worked, the law doesn't determine morality, and that they're idiots.
    They will quickly change their stance into a Moral Arbiter or Mr. Funny Guy once you tear them down, or in the rare occasion, they may change for the better.
  4. Mr. Funny Guy
    Just shitposts pedo memes.
    Simply respond with one-liners and/or reply with several one of these images with a funny caption of "Here we go again":
lol
great way to classify them :ohohoh:
 
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