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Akamebigtits

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Most try to pretend they don't understand that it's art and that's frankly less retarded than this.
They don't pretend what they see is an image depicting a drawing of a child.
In my opinion, it matters on the drawing/image itself if it's non NSFW drawing of loli no matter body type when its art, but as for the NSFW part I would say if the drawing of the loli matters on the body type as the drawing itself is depicting it.

sorry if I don't make a lot of since I find it hard to try get cross my point without sounding like dumby, I used to be an SJW anti lolicon type, nowadays I just couldn't care about being called lolicon or anti, I'm just an anime fan.

If the NSFW drawing has loli with Booba when that's fine that is art but if the loli has no booba like just nipalls when that is pedophilia in my opinion, Sorry if offended anyone in this text.

as in 2021 everyone gets offended by dumb shit and no one can have an opinion.
 

Narbray

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They don't pretend what they see is an image depicting a drawing of a child.
In my opinion, it matters on the drawing/image itself if it's non NSFW drawing of loli no matter body type when its art, but as for the NSFW part I would say if the drawing of the loli matters on the body type as the drawing itself is depicting it.

sorry if I don't make a lot of since I find it hard to try get cross my point without sounding like dumby, I used to be an SJW anti lolicon type, nowadays I just couldn't care about being called lolicon or anti, I'm just an anime fan.

If the NSFW drawing has loli with Booba when that's fine that is art but if the loli has no booba like just nipalls when that is pedophilia in my opinion, Sorry if offended anyone in this text.

as in 2021 everyone gets offended by dumb shit and no one can have an opinion.
I didn't understand lol sorry

anyway art is still art, don't lower yourself to the level of these retards here the problem is not whether it is pedophilia or not since that doesn't really matter, what matters is that they are not real children and they are not real children.
the rest is irrelevant because there is simply no evidence that it is a problem.

although I didn't really understand what you meant.
 

Hexasheep93

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"I get that they aren't real still literal children"

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This is the stupidest one in a while. :cirno-laugh:
Again with their idiotic "it says something about you blah blah blah" I think it says a lot about them that they need to judge what harmless things other people do.

I didn't understand lol sorry

anyway art is still art, don't lower yourself to the level of these retards here the problem is not whether it is pedophilia or not since that doesn't really matter, what matters is that they are not real children and they are not real children.
the rest is irrelevant because there is simply no evidence that it is a problem.

although I didn't really understand what you meant.
Dont feed the troll :bap:
 

Akamebigtits

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I didn't understand lol sorry

anyway art is still art, don't lower yourself to the level of these retards here the problem is not whether it is pedophilia or not since that doesn't really matter, what matters is that they are not real children and they are not real children.
the rest is irrelevant because there is simply no evidence that it is a problem.

although I didn't really understand what you meant.
Real or not the image is still depicting an underaged girl's body type.

Now if it's just a non-nsfw image of loli it's fine no matter what the body type of the loli is.

But if it's an NSFW image of a loli when it comes down to the body type.

If its an NSFW image of loli with tits when it isn't pedophilia but if they have no tits and just nipalls when that is pedophilia

Loli's are not real but the NSFW drawing/images depicting a child's body is pedophilia and one drawing should really get help


I've simplified my message I hope now you understand and I'm not anti but you got to draw a line before you fall too deep into the mindset of NSFW image depicting a child being ok.

Also this is my opinion right or wrong this is what I think of it
feel free to give what you think of it but don't just slide it off as your just anti-that hates lolicons. :/

Dont feed the troll :bap:
I see now common opinion here is all lolicon stuff is right and anything that isn't fully lolicon and makes sense is classified as a troll right lol

I see now I can't be taken seriously or deadass as young people say here, I also see now this is an unserious forum on lolidrama
I may take my leave.
 

Hexasheep93

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I see now common opinion here is all lolicon stuff is right and anything that isn't fully lolicon and makes sense is classified as a troll right lol

I see now I can't be taken seriously or deadass as young people say here, I also see now this is an unserious forum on lolidrama
I may take my leave.
Ohhh :satania-cry: but we were having such an indepth and thoughfull conversation...
 

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Somehow, I've think I've gotten used to strawmen that I just stopped caring.
Guess this illness has its benefits.
 

Lost Branch

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lol, it's always some creepy pastel uwu "wholesome" weirdo that gets super pissy about loli/shota. Shouldn't they be too busy whoring to care about any of this? Oh wait, that's right, they're almost always the actual pedophile.
 

Narbray

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Dont feed the troll :bap:
hahaha I'm sorry but I'm compelled to respond, I'm that kind of retard lol
Then I'll give my best spiel
I see now common opinion here is all lolicon stuff is right and anything that isn't fully lolicon and makes sense is classified as a troll right lol

I see now I can't be taken seriously or deadass as young people say here, I also see now this is an unserious forum on lolidrama
I may take my leave.
wait, at least I always take all the bullshit very seriously, I usually don't open debates on twitter because I don't want to lose my account fighting against people who are not worth reasoning with, but here it's another story.
so if you are going to leave at least give me time to answer you.
If you are really interested in discussing it, of course
I've simplified my message I hope now you understand and I'm not anti but you got to draw a line before you fall too deep into the mindset of NSFW image depicting a child being ok.
I'm sorry but my english is not very good and sometimes I don't understand things well, thank you for simplifying
for this I have the question
exactly why is it wrong? could you answer this?
and not, saying that it is the image of a child is wrong is not an answer, because in the end they are fictitious children drawn that do not resemble the real ones so there is absolutely no one that gets hurt in this process, so I still can not see where the problem is.
Also this is my opinion right or wrong this is what I think of it
feel free to give what you think of it but don't just slide it off as your just anti-that hates lolicons. :/
bro, but please, this is not an opinion thing, let's be open minded, it's science, it's like people who say the earth is flat and hide behind saying ''it's my opinion and you have to respect it'' lol to excuse themselves that their opinion is silly and anti-science, plus why give your opinion in the first place if you literally say you don't care to listen to others.
It's fine that it's your opinion but you have to realize that you're just making a fool of yourself and you can't be offended when people tell you what you're clearly showing yourself to be.
also wtf, opinion is that I say ''I don't like lolis because for me they look like children and I am not interested in that kind of taste``.
but to say that everyone who likes lolis that not have tits are pedophiles is not just an opinion, how do you expect people not to be offended by that lol.
everybody can have an opinion, but in the same way everybody should be aware of what kind of opinions we can have and when an opinion stops being just that and becomes directly something offensive or harmful or a meaningless prejudice.
Loli's are not real but the NSFW drawing/images depicting a child's body is pedophilia and one drawing should really get help
this is where people who think like you get very confused.
if you go to a psychologist just because you are attracted to lolis' drawings, then you are wasting your money.
because it is important to know when to differentiate a pathological disorder from just a sexual attraction, which although people find it hard to admit is much more common than they think.
to put ourselves in context we will use something that falls within the Chronophilia and compare to see how there is much prejudice and ignorance behind this whole subject.
if a person is attracted to an elderly person, should he/she seek professional help? [Gerontophilia]
if a person is attracted to teenagers or young ppl, should he/she seek professional help? [ephebophilia]
in fact if we continue we will realize that there are paraphilias identified for all age ranges, so following your logic all the people on the planet should be going to therapy lol
that's why we have to differentiate when an paraphilia is in fact a mental disorder.
in fact it's funny because of all the chronophilias the only one included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is pedophilia, but if you know about it you realize that there is no difference between this and other paraphilias lol

now it is important to determine that in order to be considered a mental disorder there must be a series of noticeable symptoms that affect the life and well being of the patient, these psychiatric symptoms can be various [the most common, anguish, depression, or in this case we are talking about can be seen as an intense and uncontrollable desire] but they are indicative that a disorder is present and that treatment is needed, in the same way as with a physical illness, after all, if a person is attracted to lolis, but does not affect anyone, is aware of what he is doing, does not result in symptoms and is in control of his desires, then I don't see what the problem is and it would be questionable whether he really has a mental disorder, so if he goes to therapy he would literally be wasting his time, since psychologists can only give tools to alleviate the symptoms of a [diagnosed] mental disorder and can do nothing more.
likewise this approach can be complex and not applicable to all cases, so it is very likely that a person who is attracted to girls is not necessarily attracted to boys and vice versa, so it would be quite questionable whether it applies to pedophilia in the first place. So these people who label lolicons as pedophiles are just jumping to conclusions without any basis.
So this can be summed up as:
1. a person who is attracted to children doesn't necessarily have to like loli.
2. a person who is attracted to lolis does not necessarily have to be attracted to children [much less reach an patological attraction which is very different and is what is most important to differentiate and what people like you do not differentiate].
3. pedophilia does not apply to all people who have ever been attracted to a child or have ever been aroused by a child for any reason.
3. pedophilia should not always be treated as a mental disorder [and I don't care what it says in the WHO manual these people are pathetic, as proof we only have to bear in mind that pedophilia is the only chronophilia that is included in the manual, although it does not differ in any way from the others].
4. and most importantly, pedophilia should never be treated as a prejudice problem, in the end it only causes more problems than it solves.
Also with so many people liking lolis I doubt there are really that many people with the mental illness lol and there is absolutely no indication of anything that would cause it, this alone sounds like a
5. Pedophilia [as a real mental disorder] is difficult to diagnose, and NO ONE should take such liberty without following proper procedures and diagnoses based on pseudoscientific or unfounded stupidities should not be taken for granted, because even if this may not seem like it, they cause many more problems than they believe.

Anyway, I don't know if you're going to read all this
but I think it is good to leave prejudices and see things in the correct way.

All this these prejudices are based on two very beautiful fallacies:
You like "children`s drawings", then you are a pedophile
and then
Pedophiles are bad and need urgent help

and few people are willing to reason outside of this lol
nobody thinks that the thing is really much more complex than this, that's why it is a fallacy.

In the end said like this, it is important to know that, even if it is proven that the lolicon are pedophiles, hypothetically, even so, I still do not see the problem lol
 

gigawyrm

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Loli's are not real but the NSFW drawing/images depicting a child's body is pedophilia and one drawing should really get help
get help for what? furthermore, what help is there? going to therapy doesn't allow you to somehow overcome your attractions; it can provide you with coping strategies, of which illustrated pornography may be one of, but even then it's up to you to employ them. honestly, though, i'm not really sure what good coping strategies would do a dangerous person anyway, and i also don't see most lolicons being the sort of people who'd stoop as low as rape, either. being a lolicon does not make someone a dangerous person. nevertheless, even with therapy you don't just cease to be interested in or aroused by lolicon or depictions of a child's body (uooooohhh 😭) and if drawing that stuff is a creative outlet, why not do it? it's really not harming anyone. just don't go around advocating for or trying to make moral arguments for IRL adult-child relationships, that's just severely retarded.
I've simplified my message I hope now you understand and I'm not anti but you got to draw a line before you fall too deep into the mindset of NSFW image depicting a child being ok.
it is "ok." socially reprehensible to people who aren't into it, yes, and it should be totally understandable why they view it that way. just to clarify, i mean drawings. i still remember when the sight of loli or shota gave me the creeps and made me ask "how is this legal?!" and then little over a year later i'd resigned myself to liking it (loli, not shota). really strange how that all worked but i digress... it's just drawings. i've seen a lot of terrible drawings from the guro community but it doesn't linger in my mind because it's simply fake. when people are outraged by a loli drawing, they're really offended by the very concept of child abuse existing, not the drawing itself. it's like "who the fuck would get off to something like this? what the fuck?" i suppose therein lies the difference between fictional murder and fictional rape. people are desensitized to one but not the other, when clearly they're both wrong.
feel free to give what you think of it but don't just slide it off as your just anti-that hates lolicons. :/
you're just a concerned third party that believes lolicons need therapy lest they rape someone IRL, or for various other reasons you neglected to point out or hadn't thought of yet, regardless of the fact that it would just be a waste of money unless you were actually at risk of offending. :shrug:
 

Hexasheep93

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get help for what? furthermore, what help is there? going to therapy doesn't allow you to somehow overcome your attractions; it can provide you with coping strategies, of which illustrated pornography may be one of, but even then it's up to you to employ them. honestly, though, i'm not really sure what good coping strategies would do a dangerous person anyway, and i also don't see most lolicons being the sort of people who'd stoop as low as rape, either. being a lolicon does not make someone a dangerous person. nevertheless, even with therapy you don't just cease to be interested in or aroused by lolicon or depictions of a child's body (uooooohhh 😭) and if drawing that stuff is a creative outlet, why not do it? it's really not harming anyone. just don't go around advocating for or trying to make moral arguments for IRL adult-child relationships, that's just severely retarded.

it is "ok." socially reprehensible to people who aren't into it, yes, and it should be totally understandable why they view it that way. just to clarify, i mean drawings. i still remember when the sight of loli or shota gave me the creeps and made me ask "how is this legal?!" and then little over a year later i'd resigned myself to liking it (loli, not shota). really strange how that all worked but i digress... it's just drawings. i've seen a lot of terrible drawings from the guro community but it doesn't linger in my mind because it's simply fake. when people are outraged by a loli drawing, they're really offended by the very concept of child abuse existing, not the drawing itself. it's like "who the fuck would get off to something like this? what the fuck?" i suppose therein lies the difference between fictional murder and fictional rape. people are desensitized to one but not the other, when clearly they're both wrong.

you're just a concerned third party that believes lolicons need therapy lest they rape someone IRL, or for various other reasons you neglected to point out or hadn't thought of yet, regardless of the fact that it would just be a waste of money unless you were actually at risk of offending. :shrug:
I think one of the problems is that people arent allowed to take time to think things through, like you said to most people the concept of loli/shota is concerning to people who arent into it. But, and this is admitedly an assumption, given the time they reach the conclussion that its not a big deal or at least not a big concern. At least thats how it was for me when I saw stuff did not like on the net. However in this superfast times everyone has to respond quickly, we dont have time to process what one is saying or seeing, just the very first visceral response that comes to mind. Thats why every topic, not only loli, devolves into a shouting match not different than a bunch of dogs loudly barking at eachother.
 

Narbray

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of course I don't want you to misunderstand me either,
if you think you need to go to therapy, for whatever reason, you can go, it is good to go to therapy, it does not mean that we are sick or crazy.
i was born in a country where psychology, psychoanalysis and psychiatry therapies are completely free, and for a long time i went to therapies and i have observed many therapies to other patients too, so i have enough experiences in therapies and i know quite well how they work and at the end as @gigawyrm already said a therapist can only give you tools based on your symptoms and a diagnosis, but ''that`` will always be there.

in fact seen in this way, to treat impulse problems, like the compulsions of an obsessive-compulsive disorder or the recurrent fears of a phobia, by extension we will put mysophobia, one of the main tools that is given is to ''think about it`` instead of what people usually do which is to move away from the problem which is contradictory, so maybe using fictional material could in fact be beneficial to treat symptoms of compulsions contrary to what everybody believes, so even for a real pedophile, consuming loli content could be a good solution to treat his condition [the problem is that most pedophiles are actually more interested in content as close to real as possible and thats a problem].
well this is just my theory and opinion so don't take it too seriously either, I have no evidence to prove that it really works.
In addition, many other factors had to be ruled out, on which there is not much information and research.
but I think it would be a good research thesis lol
that is not driven by prejudice and only on scientific grounds.
 
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cunny poster

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archive of the tweet you linked (https://archive.fo/cO2T9)
Not sure if anyone archived it here, but just in case.

This is an artist who drew some shotacon stuff regarding abuse and all that stuff. Some NSFW, but apparently it's just regarding trauma.
And she was outed by a bunch of antis on twitter to their abusive workplace at Cartoon Network (iirc; could be someplace else), who had a sexual predator as a boss (at CN) whose behavior was treated lightly.

Or so I recall.
The sequence of events and what happened is more detailed in the directory pinned tweet here.
If I had to be honest, I don't have the time to go through it all, so again, my summary is likely inaccurate.

I don't think I'll be able to archive all of it, so I would like some help (though I'm probably not going to get it) or at least someone to summarize the information, or at least someone to make sure nothing gets wiped and there's a place to find this information so we don't let this crime be forgotten, nor the criminals behind it, nor the group behind it.

I hope that she can still find a happy life, even after all this has happened to her, even with a bunch of abusers coming after her.
It's all I can do, sadly: Hope that things will work out for someone else.

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KF post about it. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/hazbin-hotel-thread.62732/page-75 (
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lolcowfarm (imageboard for females had a thread about it.) went firther in depth as opposed to Kiwi farms.
https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1209930.html (https://archive.fo/j01wV)
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And, other far less noteworthy sites chimed in.
https://mighty-magiswords.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000000068 (https://archive.fo/IGVsq)
Google doc linked was deleted.
But, there's a mirror of their Tumblr https://www.tumbex.com/handsomehugs.tumblr/posts
https://www.deviantart.com/handsomehugs (https://archive.fo/ir8Um)







Also, this mochipeach nigger is gross.
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Scornful Gaze

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It'd be far less embarassing if rather than saying 'I'm Enby/CSA victim' they just said 'yeah I drew it lmao.' Like at that point don't even bother deflecting, just be the nigga people love to hate. And don't do meth, as doing meth is apparently something that people fall back on after they overcome their cunny addiction.
 

Hexasheep93

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It'd be far less embarassing if rather than saying 'I'm Enby/CSA victim' they just said 'yeah I drew it lmao.' Like at that point don't even bother deflecting, just be the nigga people love to hate. And don't do meth, as doing meth is apparently something that people fall back on after they overcome their cunny addiction.
Why would anyone want to abandon cunny for meth? :senko-disgust:

I guess if its everything one can think about then alright lol:shrug:

archive of the tweet you linked (https://archive.fo/cO2T9)

KF post about it. https://kiwifarms.net/threads/hazbin-hotel-thread.62732/page-75 (
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lolcowfarm (imageboard for females had a thread about it.) went firther in depth as opposed to Kiwi farms.
https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/1209930.html (https://archive.fo/j01wV)
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And, other far less noteworthy sites chimed in.
https://mighty-magiswords.fandom.com/f/p/3100000000000000068 (https://archive.fo/IGVsq)
Google doc linked was deleted.
But, there's a mirror of their Tumblr https://www.tumbex.com/handsomehugs.tumblr/posts
https://www.deviantart.com/handsomehugs (https://archive.fo/ir8Um)







Also, this mochipeach nigger is gross.
Geez I remember now how much I hate kiwifarms :gura-pain:
 
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