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NretsewThePerv

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JP lolis are soft and cuddly

yea and all one needs to do is scroll up and look at the examples of Bubbukas(?) work you posted and compare it to.... whatever the fuck Unteralterbach is doing

with Bubbukas they don't scream "I based this body off a real child" they are just like.... well anime characters. and my brain registers them as such, whereas the Unteralterbach is triggering my fight or flight as its to close to the real thing and is just creepy as shit

that's why I think there is a line. a line of abstraction. anime lolis are abstract enough to be detached from the IRL equivalent to the point you can't even call them the same thing. and it's a core part of why you can be into them and not be a pedo.

but if you don't make the work abstract enough... you walking into some dangerous territory
 

Hexasheep93

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yea and all one needs to do is scroll up and look at the examples of Bubbukas(?) work you posted and compare it to.... whatever the fuck Unteralterbach is doing

with Bubbukas they don't scream "I based this body off a real child" they are just like.... well anime characters. and my brain registers them as such, whereas the Unteralterbach is triggering my fight or flight as its to close to the real thing and is just creepy as shit

that's why I think there is a line. a line of abstraction. anime lolis are abstract enough to be detached from the IRL equivalent to the point you can't even call them the same thing. and it's a core part of why you can be into them and not be a pedo.

but if you don't make the work abstract enough... you walking into some dangerous territory
To be fair western loli varies a lot in style from artist to artist, afaik unteralterbach is the only one I know that uses this style, most of the ones I follow either are similar to jp loli or to the style the character comes from (as most of it is rule 34 from various cartoons )
 

NretsewThePerv

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To be fair western loli varies a lot in style from artist to artist, afaik unteralterbach is the only one I know that uses this style, most of the ones I follow either are similar to jp loli or to the style the character comes from (as most of it is rule 34 from various cartoons )

I mean if you read what I said. I was only talking about unteralterbach's work and all artworks regardless of who makes it in general. I was not making any comments about east Vs west. more about art styles in a general since

there are plenty of eastern made works I could talk about that cross the same kinda boundary. on Pixiv you can find a lot of people doing shit with realistic looking 3D models that I find just as creepy as untera.

so yeah I was not bashing "western loli" I was bashing artists whose work is not abstract enough and is too realistic to the point they look like real kids and not "anime characters" that it creeps me out. also not saying it should be censored and more power to you if you are fine with it. but for me, its where I kinda draw the line and I'm just not into it
 

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love how this is news to people as I recall the fact he was one of the people defending cuties lol
yeah i know all about that but this is more hard evidence for the pile so :shrug:

Bubbukas a good artist, he didn't draw "csam victims", and quite frankly who cares.
Twitterfags need to shut up
well if he didn't use csam victims then it's something that should be clarified, one way or the other it's still creepy the fact that he used lil kids as reference and just like shadman was dragged tru the mud over it so should bubuka
it does not matter if he is a good artist or not what matters is if this nigga did fucked up shit.
 

ninja8tyu

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so the entire issue is essentially based on the morality of using an actual child as reference or a base of a drawing because of whatever harm it'd bring upon the child and so on and so on

well have fun arguing about that if you guys want lmao
 

UMP45

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Unfortunately there are few pro-lolicons for either not awaring of what Bubbuka did or decided to let him get away with it just because he made loli arts. Like so:


But there are some who aware:
The models aren't illegal in Japan and bubukka will never care about your western moral faggotry, kill yourself retard
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I hope you're not map who want lolicons joining map
The models aren't illegal in Japan and bubukka will never care about your western moral faggotry, kill yourself retard
Look you fucking niggers I steer myself clear from real stuffs and I enjoyed cunny whether it's western or eastern made, but the moment stuffs referenced from real stuffs like candydolls I started to doubt the shit outta myself whether I should continue loving loli cunny or not.
 

Hexasheep93

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Look you fucking niggers I steer myself clear from real stuffs and I enjoyed cunny whether it's western or eastern made, but the moment stuffs referenced from real stuffs like candydolls I started to doubt the shit outta myself whether I should continue loving loli cunny or not.
Most artists dont, at least not the ones I follow.

look the way I see it is the way I see everything else on the internet. Everyone can say anything regardless of wheter its true or not, so unless proven I dont immediatly assume thats true. So with loli artists I dont immediatly assume they refference real stuff, unless presented with proof of the contrary ofc.

At the end of the day its up to you what want to do

I hope you're not map who want lolicons joining map
I dont think he is but someone in here certainly sounds like it :asui-what:
 

Scornful Gaze

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Look you fucking niggers I steer myself clear from real stuffs and I enjoyed cunny whether it's western or eastern made, but the moment stuffs referenced from real stuffs like candydolls I started to doubt the shit outta myself whether I should continue loving loli cunny or not.
I believe I've said this before on the Fedi, but, at the risk of splitting hairs, it's not 'referenced' it's 'an OC inspired by true events.' It's still playing with some fire and I'd be a liar to say I'm at all approving of him making an OC based off of some kid, but I can't control other people's dumb decisions. There's that line about never meeting your heroes that I suppose also applies to your favorite porno artists. For what it's worth AFAIK he doesn't draw that character anymore, feel free to prove me wrong though.

The models aren't illegal in Japan and bubukka will never care about your western moral faggotry, kill yourself retard
Wasn't CD an American venture? I'd like to say that it was one of those questionably legal publications that only closed shop because Mastercard flipped their shit, but I ain't into shit like that so I only ever heard it through the grapevine on places like /a/ (this is not an invite to start searching this, and I'll do my due diligence yet again and tell people to not pipe these keywords through Google or DDG).
 

Lost Branch

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Am I the only person who remembers that Japan used to sell softcore porn of actual young teens just a little over a decade ago? The only change they did was that now those teens have to wear clothing. Those mags were equivalent to nudist mags though, and most first world countries still allow the sale of those nudist magazines.

It would be nice if faggots would remember that the entire world isn't run by the US or Europe. The facts are those laws only apply to citizens of said nations.
 

Scornful Gaze

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a little over a decade ago
You answered your own question, most anime fans, and by extention most lolicons, are on the younger side; I can't blame them at all for not remembering half of this shit.
It would be nice if faggots would remember that the entire world isn't run by the US or Europe. The facts are those laws only apply to citizens of said nations.
We already know that, but most people, including yours truly, tend to look poorly on softcore porn of flesh and blood teenagers. I like bubukka as an artist but I don't have to approve of him making fanfiction of an erotic child model, and it's unreasonable to lash out at trayvs for being sour towards the man over it. I'm on the side of viewing that as a moral failing that he should, you know, probably acknowledge even if it isn't illegal or as malicious as the shit Shadman pulled with Keem's daughter. Bold statements only here, I know.
 

Lost Branch

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You answered your own question, most anime fans, and by extention most lolicons, are on the younger side; I can't blame them at all for not remembering half of this shit.

We already know that, but most people, including yours truly, tend to look poorly on softcore porn of flesh and blood teenagers. I like bubukka as an artist but I don't have to approve of him making fanfiction of an erotic child model, and it's unreasonable to lash out at trayvs for being sour towards the man over it. I'm on the side of viewing that as a moral failing that he should, you know, probably acknowledge even if it isn't illegal or as malicious as the shit Shadman pulled with Keem's daughter. Bold statements only here, I know.
I understand not liking it, and no one is forcing you to. I personally don't even pay attention to who any given artist is because I don't care about them.

My shitty post was mainly directed at those throwing a literal fit over it like anything they do matters. They can bitch and moan about other cultures, but changes in law are only being done because of outside governmental influences and not because any large quantity of people there actually cares about those issues. The people there will continue to view it the same way but simply abide by whatever law gets passed. People crying on twitter literally does nothing unless they actively get involved in said decision in real life, which is what we're seeing from all these game companies.
 

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We know they're willing to mass harass someone, send them death threats, dox them, and even push people into suicide.
But I have never encountered a situation where they specifically and completely fearlessly targeted someone over this, from doxxing, death threats, mass harassment, and now it's gotten to the point they're willing to make encounters with them, even at cons and such, in public and even audaciously admitting to several crimes, legal and moral, yet are left untouched and unscathed.
At this point, I feel as if I'm witnessing a snuff film with quite a bit of build-up, and I'm not enticed to let it play out where some fucked up shitheads will be enjoying live slaughter of a human being.

Dunno if it's because people are just desensitized to it, but dead bodies are very unsettling on a deep level.
Special effects and dumb acts come barely close to it with their fun water balloon bursts of blood and flailing.
The simplicity of it is probably what makes it horrifying.
When they stop moving, it's so unnatural in such an unsettling way. They should be moving, but they don't. Even worse is when they twitch or spazz out, be it due to remaining nerve impulses and such, and knowing that they shouldn't be moving, but they still do.
But I digress.

The fact they aren't getting the metal part of a belt to their skulls is rather disappointing and a very bad sign that such evil is very much overlooked and tolerated.

While I doubt anyone here would have the likely chance of encountering such people in real life, I am beginning to think that if this continues, some bold brat will cross a line, and whether it succeeds or not only will say about that these people are in fact threats to be neutralized if it ever occurs.
And if that event were to happen, and they succeed, then it will encourage more violent activity, vitalizing a group of malice-filled demons with the knowledge that even they can kill a "pedophile," for the sake of their twisted dystopian justice.

Personally I'm not tempted to wait around and find out to see if someone's skull will get cracked over drawings, but not like I can do much from a computer screen, especially unarmed against some fucked up violent shitbags.

But because of that, I can't see what my thoughts mean in the grand scheme of things.

What're y'alls thoughts on this? Honestly some other perspectives, preferably hopeful ones, could do me well here.
 

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This is my first using and participating in forum, so please tell me if I made mistake like the format I'm using is wrong, I should post x at y megathread or something along those.

I'm bored at the moment and decided to check QRT of Anitwt blocklist which contain people making/supporting lolisho contents.....

I've found a gem

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At first it was your typical anti-lolisho pointing pedo finger at lolicon, but when it (inevitably) comes down to "I don't think a child would looks like *insert a loli here*", their response is shocking

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salty_apollyon

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Bubbuka drew Laura B.
she's a child model who was very popular on imageboards, and he drew some pictures based off her.
ok m8 that's actually creepy, shit's on the level of what shadman did, no matter if bubukas art is good or not, the fact still stands that it was fuckin creepy
If you know Unteralterbach, a lot of the characters there are also based off real kids, see the picture in the spoiler
and this is equally fucked up and i think THESE examples could probably fit under the protect act

idk you man but i think the right thing to do is get away from any of these types of niggas :senko-disgust:[/spoiler]
 
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