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xRemx

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Considering this users collection and some of the comments on their page. It seems to me they made this alert as a way to mock the new rules I mean I know we are living in post-irony times but Im pretty sure theyre not making that post seriously
I'll reply since I am actually the faggot in question that reported the figure. It wasn't meant to mock the rules, it was meant to test "how far" the admins will go. If we take Canadian laws at face value A LOT of figs could potentially face the axe. I tried to find an example of a lewd figure of a character where a convincing argument could be made that the character is definitely underage. JK characters would have been an easy pick, but I wanted a character that's not 16 or 17 (where people could go 'She looks 18!') but younger without being an outright loli. My second intention was to pick a character that has appeal to what I believe to be the typical anti-loli crusader: Minors with a terminal TikTok addiction who like the kawaii/uwu aesthetic suffering from a major case of main character syndrome. (Unfortunately whenever I see a profile in pastel pink colours it's either the lewdest loli shrine imaginable or some moron brain whose first profile line is "proship DNI" or something like that.)

My expectation was as follows:
a) If jannies censor the figure: It would provide a clear line of what's "too much" and by using that example other, less nice people, would probably start reporting a lot of comparable figures. The site would be in an even worse meltdown mode, hundreds of entries would burn - which could lead to a wider user revolt. Removing a figure of a character like Chocola who has such a widespread appeal could also make some of the anti-loli crusaders actually use their two braincells to realise that slippery slopes are real and that if they start going after things other people love, the pendulum will eventually swing back and they will be hurt. Badly.
b) If Jannies don't censor the figure: A standard has been set. A 14/15 yearish looking character being depicted very lewdly is okay. This could have been used to fight against other figures being censored. It could also have been used in an attempt to open the Overton window on loli expression again.

What actually happened was c, which I did not expect: jannies refusing to pass judgement. I literally did not have a plan for that case and it kinda put me in wait and see mode because until jannies start actually working, it's going to be difficult to find a way to save MFC.

Nevertheless I am feeling better about the site today than I did when I first saw the news. My current stance is that after several interactions with the main admin working on that change that his intentions are genuine. This is not anti-loli "think of the children" moral faggotery, this is someone whose hand has been forced and who needs to find a short term solution before he can consider working on a long term fix.
 
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Hexasheep93

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I'll reply since I am actually the faggot in question that reported the figure. It wasn't meant to mock the rules, it was meant to test "how far" the admins will go. If we take Canadian laws at face value A LOT of figs could potentially face the axe. I tried to find an example of a lewd figure of a character where a convincing argument could be made that the character is definitely underage. JK characters would have been an easy pick, but I wanted a character that's not 16 or 17 (where people could go 'She looks 18!') but younger without being an outright loli. My second intention was to pick a character that has appeal to what I believe to be the typical anti-loli crusader: Minors with a terminal TikTok addiction who like the kawaii/uwu aesthetic suffering from a major case of main character syndrome. (Unfortunately whenever I see a profile in pastel pink colours it's either the lewdest loli shrine imaginable or some moron brain whose first profile line is "proship DNI" or something like that.)

My expectation was as follows:
a) If jannies censor the figure: It would provide a clear line of what's "too much" and by using that example other, less nice people, would probably start reporting a lot of comparable figures. The site would be in an even worse meltdown mode, hundreds of entries would burn - which could lead to a wider user revolt. Removing a figure of a character like Chocola who has such a widespread appeal could also make some of the anti-loli crusaders actually use their two braincells to realise that slippery slopes are real and that if they start going after things other people love, the pendulum will eventually swing back and they will be hurt. Badly.
b) If Jannies don't censor the figure: A standard has been set. A 14/15 yearish looking character being depicted very lewdly is okay. This could have been used to fight against other figures being censored. It could also have been used in an attempt to open the Overton window on loli expression again.

What actually happened was c, which I did not expect: jannies refusing to pass judgement. I literally did not have a plan for that case and it kinda put me in wait and see mode because until jannies start actually working, it's going to be difficult to find a way to save MFC.

Nevertheless I am feeling better about the site today than I did when I first saw the news. My current stance is that after several interactions with the main admin working on that change that his intentions are genuine. This is not anti-loli "think of the children" moral faggotery, this is someone whose hand has been forced and who needs to find a short term solution before he can consider working on a long term fix.
Hey no problem man
Sorry if you got attacked over your post. The last few months have put a lot of us on edge and well tempers run high

Anyways, this is an interesting development. I gathered from the admin post that there seemed to be some uncertainty about their situation. Do you believe there is some hope to reverse the decision? Or maybe just better to find an alternative at this point?
 

xRemx

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Hey no problem man
Sorry if you got attacked over your post. The last few months have put a lot of us on edge and well tempers run high

Anyways, this is an interesting development. I gathered from the admin post that there seemed to be some uncertainty about their situation. Do you believe there is some hope to reverse the decision? Or maybe just better to find an alternative at this point?
It's fine. I've been on the internet for a few years!

Well... and keep in mind, this is 99 % speculation and extrapolation on my part - I don't have any privileged information on the situation, just my impression from interacting with a member of staff for a bit - I have a feeling that they have to work fast right now to create a "minimally viable version" of the site that won't fall foul of their host. Their number one priority is getting to a point where the site won't be kicked off the servers. Once they have that situation established, they will look at their options and see if there is a way they can make it work and restore the site to it's former glory. They just don't want to commit to one thing or another at this point in time because if they get hopes up by saying it's a temp thing and they end up taking a long time or can't get back to 100 %, it will just lead to even more backlash. They don't want to promise what they can't keep.

For me, I will wait until the end of this year. Maybe they'll fix the situation. If not, I will be willing to look at any alternatives out there. At the moment there is just hpoi.net (which is more active and complete than MFC) but that one is unfortunately only available in Chinese. Online translators work fine, but it's more if you want to do the collecting bit without much community interaction. If you wanna track your figs - it's perfect. If you wanna have your fig checked to see if they are genuine, need help assembling or want to know about quality flaws... it's tough.
 

DosonTheIrate

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Hello. Just registered to inquire about something. The Amazing Loli Facts twitter account was suspended, does anyone know who the author(s) were and if there is a backup off all the trivia and other content that was posted there?
Putting "loli" in your twitter name or @ is asking to be banned. Antis search "loli" all day to mass report people. That's why I type it in kana or romaji, because antis are too retarded to figure that out. Under 85 used to be considered mentally retarded until 1992 when it was raised because half of all American negros were considered retarded. So when you see some antis using ebonics remember you are dealing with a literal nigger retard.
 

NretsewThePerv

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posting here as I dont think this is big enough to make a thread about over in the Vtubers category

TLDR Shondo posted a funny joke tweet about her massive fucken brests and the non-binary transgender 12-year-olds had a bit of a fucken meltdown over it

here is Shondos response to the event where she jokes about said 12-year-olds

and here is VTcringe covering the harassment in more detail

so yea just another case of Twitter freaks having a fucken normal one over a Vtuber just having a bit of a giggle

oh and its lolidrama cuz well... yea just look at Shondo
 

Hexasheep93

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posting here as I dont think this is big enough to make a thread about over in the Vtubers category

TLDR Shondo posted a funny joke tweet about her massive fucken brests and the non-binary transgender 12-year-olds had a bit of a fucken meltdown over it

here is Shondos response to the event where she jokes about said 12-year-olds

and here is VTcringe covering the harassment in more detail

so yea just another case of Twitter freaks having a fucken normal one over a Vtuber just having a bit of a giggle

oh and its lolidrama cuz well... yea just look at Shondo
How is she holding up? I hope the harrasment has not gotten to her.

It would not surprise me if some of it came from other "vtubers" that havent done shit. That whole scene is nothing but highschool cliques at this point
 

Sliding

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It would not surprise me if some of it came from other "vtubers" that havent done shit. That whole scene is nothing but highschool cliques at this point
While true, surprisingly, it's mostly K-pop stans, for some reason.
Also, about the highschool clique thing, it's mostly true, but with some luck, a vtuber can grow despite it.
 

ninja8tyu

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if i do another count, what're the chances it's gonna be essentially 100%
 

ninja8tyu

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You know what?
I wasted 6 hours counting 1015 tweets.
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Despite finally figuring out how to use archives, unfortunately, seems like Elon fucking ruined everything.
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It's gonna take forever to get this done with, but I'll archive everything I can.

So GET READY FOR
TROON
and
DEATH THREATS
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And fuck it, I'm stopping here. It's midnight. I got a job.
I think if anyone else had the patience to sit through, archiving all this shit for 6 hours, they'll find how many nutjobs there are here.

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That's more of a compliment than an insult out of context, but given her affiliations, I'd assume she's being derogatory.
But I'll remove her from the count to ensure the amount of harassers with flags in bio are low to give an underestimate, as per usual.
I assume the best in everybody until they drop a line that proves otherwise.
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I'll the words as-is and ignore the LowTierGod image alongside the person in the comments spamming comments about ways to help real children instead of wasting time on drawings.
Especially since I don't see anything in their account that concretely proves mal-intent, mostly talking about games.
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Finding this weird isn't harassment.
Continuing to purport lolicon is pedophilia is, however, something I'd consider contributes to all this shit done by retards.
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Not gonna lie, this is just 100% faggots projecting their pedophilia onto Shondo.
Aside from the last 3 (neutral/unsure), which is honestly me being "I'm honestly not sure I can say it's meant badly unless I can see them sending death threats or some shit" despite the fact it would be normal for anyone to assume them to be ill-intent, especially given some of the shit they've posted.
Just me trying to underestimate the actual amount of faggots, but hey, still doesn't stop 'em from admitting they're a fuckin' nuisance.

If you wanna look through some of their profiles for pro-trans stuff, go ahead.
Honestly, I'm mainly looking for Twitter People, but holy fuck the amount of ACAB/any pronoun/BLM/Socialist/Proship DNI/ADHD/aspie/minor/fae
Just so happens about all of them are Trans or children.
Not all of them, but you'd bet your ass all of them supports Vaush the pedozoo, "Trans Rights!" uwu, furry/zoophile, kpop stans, racist against whites, hate men, etc etc.

Essentially what the "nazis" refer to as the left-wing.

Not to detract from the fact that yes, there are actually far-right Nazis that're against this stuff (literally dealt with them before), but not gonna lie, there is literally no group more noisier than the troons, even after dealing with Nazis coming in with their battalion trying to preach purity and eugenics.

All of them talk as if they were from Tumblr.





Edit: Maybe I should've started from the very first QRTs, because holy FUCK the amount of death threats.
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I wanted to scroll all the way to the very first QRT to see how far I got, and on my way, the amount of pronoun psychos is fucking insane (oh, and the death threats, but tbh that just comes with the pronouns).

I doubt I'd be able to archive them all unless I wanna die at work with 5 hours of sleep again, sooooo

Anyone who really wants to prove something, get to it before they're all deleted.

And guess that really just proves lolicons are the most oppressed group online. The density of threats is massive compared to Pippa's Hogwarts Fanmail.
 
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PatioRama

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>MHA avatar, Bloom into You avatar, Persona avatar, Haikyuu avatar

I'm betting the Deku avatar is someone who calls Horikoshi a pedo for that one cover of the invisible girl but still gives him money. Those guys never have principles, they just consoom product and use fancy words to justify it.
 

DosonTheIrate

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myfigurecollection has begun its purge starting with most things made by henreader. Couldn't even be assed to leave a fucking thumbnail of the girl's face.
As usual with these hypocrites, is they aren't actually applying their standards. They are mostly going after smaller artists. Lewd or revealing figures for popular lolis like Shinobu or Shiro are untouched. If this was really about what they claim it's about, they would start with the popular stuff FIRST. People keep falling for their obvious lies like "we will do this while looking for an alternative." No they fucking won't. It's obvious that this is what they WANT, and they are using the host bullshit as an excuse.

They've had this stuff for more than a decade. Don't believe these lying disingenuous cunts. They are censors, and ALL censors deserve execution without exception. Think that's too far? Censors want you DEAD. If censors have their way, people who refuse to be censored will be killed by the government. If you kill someone in self defense, it's not murder. A person's rights ends where another's begins. Censors has forfeited their rights, therefore the guillotine is just.
 

grapedApe

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Rev Says Desu reports on moistcritikal/charlie defending vtuber Rune Bunnura against his dumbass australian official podcast co-host jackson for her statement on the twitter tourists/parasites repeatedly trying to oust loli vtubers. He points out that loli is as old as anime/vtubing itself while jackson who doesn't know shit about shit is asking why can't we ban Gawr Gura because protect my fragile feelings.
https://twitter.com/RuneBunnura

Don't forget that charlie has opposed loli fanservice/hentai before this (and when I went to get the proof I posted here I noticed the video was made private/deleted and I didn't download it.) I guess at minimum he's ok with/indifferent to it as long as it isn't nsfw.
 

Narmy

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Anyone else notice the attacks on loli increasing lately? Is there some big influencer pushing this shit?

It feels like a coordinated effort to completely water down the meaning of pedophilia.
 

Cursed

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Anyone else notice the attacks on loli increasing lately? Is there some big influencer pushing this shit?

It feels like a coordinated effort to completely water down the meaning of pedophilia.
for me is like roller coaster , some times this become really insane during 2 months , sometime no one talk about this during 1 /2 months :zt-think:
 

Hexasheep93

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Anyone else notice the attacks on loli increasing lately? Is there some big influencer pushing this shit?

It feels like a coordinated effort to completely water down the meaning of pedophilia.
Honestly its hard to tell. Given the different social media sites and the amount of users in those sites it is entirely possible someone is talking about any subject at any time including loli.

Now I assume you are probably talking about youtube and twitter. Afaik attacking loli is a usual go to for e-celebs that want to score some easy brownie points from the rabble.

So my personal theory is that if people are talking about loli is 1 of 2 things

1. There is nothing else to talk about/ or that they would want to talk about
2. Theyre desperate for views so they will try all the lowest common denominator tactics including attacking anime and loli.

The internet is too big for there to be any sort of coordinated attack against something as broad as loli or hentai or anime.

Thats my theory at least
 

Ehuan Hannah

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Rev Says Desu reports on moistcritikal/charlie defending vtuber Rune Bunnura against his dumbass australian official podcast co-host jackson for her statement on the twitter tourists/parasites repeatedly trying to oust loli vtubers. He points out that loli is as old as anime/vtubing itself while jackson who doesn't know shit about shit is asking why can't we ban Gawr Gura because protect my fragile feelings.
https://twitter.com/RuneBunnura

Don't forget that charlie has opposed loli fanservice/hentai before this (and when I went to get the proof I posted here I noticed the video was made private/deleted and I didn't download it.) I guess at minimum he's ok with/indifferent to it as long as it isn't nsfw.
>australian
>offended by lolis




I don't know why we're wasting our time taking an aussie's opinion seriously. Being Moistcritikal's co-host doesn't make him any less stupid.
 
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