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salty_apollyon

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has ayone already talked about vito being an actual pedo?
well in case you have not, here it is
 

travys@varis

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I'll repeat myself again, but Bubbuka is a retard. He can try and draw any type of real life kid and you wouldn't even know because his art style isn't realistic enough for that. The only reason I knew that LauraB was a thing in his art myself is because I've been on 4chan.
What you should consider is your own safety, since the law does not differentiate. If they drew it off child pornography, it should fit the "digitalized child pornography" category and you then, as per the law, possess child pornography.
I'm happy with avoiding Bubbuka because I don't like his art anyway, I find it pretty meh.
sorry for the doublepost, but this seems like a cope.
are you going to deny there's no crossover between lolicons and paedophiles?
and some artists like bubuuka and rust do use real LG's as a reference, in specific candydoll.tv's Laura B.
Unfortunately there are few pro-lolicons for either not awaring of what Bubbuka did or decided to let him get away with it just because he made loli arts. Like so:


But there are some who aware:
 
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Halo

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Unfortunately there are few pro-lolicons for either not awaring of what Bubbuka did or decided to let him get away with it just because he made loli arts. Like so:


But there are some who aware:
Bubbukas a good artist, he didn't draw "csam victims", and quite frankly who cares.
Twitterfags need to shut up
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ninja8tyu

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Bubbukas a good artist, he didn't draw "csam victims", and quite frankly who cares.
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i have no idea what even is the drama with bubbuka is anymore

from what i've heard, apparently they used real kids, but then it turns out they weren't illegal or something because they were JCs (i have no idea what that is), and i'm just plain lost

i want to trust that people can actually tell the difference between real kids and a drawing and this allegation is legit, but now i'm beginning to think it's yet another moral panic made to fuck with people.
 

Halo

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i have no idea what even is the drama with bubbuka is anymore

from what i've heard, apparently they used real kids, but then it turns out they weren't illegal or something because they were JCs (i have no idea what that is), and i'm just plain lost

i want to trust that people can actually tell the difference between real kids and a drawing and this allegation is legit, but now i'm beginning to think it's yet another moral panic made to fuck with people.
Bubbuka drew Laura B.
she's a child model who was very popular on imageboards, and he drew some pictures based off her.
If you know Unteralterbach, a lot of the characters there are also based off real kids, see the picture in the spoiler
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Anything about "CSAM victims" is a lie as far as I know and people just freaking out and making a bigger deal out of stuff than it is.
Quite frankly if people are surprised some artists use models like Laura B. for reference they're either incredibly innocent, really retarded, or stupidly oblivious.

Should've lurked on imageboards instead of arguing about gaybaby shit on twitter :hana-disgust:
 

NretsewThePerv

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If you know Unteralterbach, a lot of the characters there are also based off real kids, see the picture in the spoiler

I can't be the only one who finds that art style fucken unnerving and creepy as fuck, hits a bit too close to the real thing for a lot of them tbh. to each their own but even not knowing they are based on the real people shits triggering that uncanny effect. not my cup of tea that's for sure

talked about this a few posts ago but for me at least there is def a line where it's "too real" for me to get into. lolis are fine with me when its pure abstract anime style

whatever the fuck that shits meant to be..... yea na just creepy
 

Halo

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I can't be the only one who finds that art style fucken unnerving and creepy as fuck, hits a bit too close to the real thing for a lot of them tbh. to each their own but even not knowing they are based on the real people shits triggering that uncanny effect. not my cup of tea that's for sure
I absolutely hate the western artstyle, it's so disgusting I don't know how anyone could like it.
JP lolis are soft and cuddly
western """"lolis"""" are disturbing and i feel like I'll get murdered by them in an abandoned mansion
 

NretsewThePerv

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JP lolis are soft and cuddly

yea and all one needs to do is scroll up and look at the examples of Bubbukas(?) work you posted and compare it to.... whatever the fuck Unteralterbach is doing

with Bubbukas they don't scream "I based this body off a real child" they are just like.... well anime characters. and my brain registers them as such, whereas the Unteralterbach is triggering my fight or flight as its to close to the real thing and is just creepy as shit

that's why I think there is a line. a line of abstraction. anime lolis are abstract enough to be detached from the IRL equivalent to the point you can't even call them the same thing. and it's a core part of why you can be into them and not be a pedo.

but if you don't make the work abstract enough... you walking into some dangerous territory
 

Hexasheep93

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yea and all one needs to do is scroll up and look at the examples of Bubbukas(?) work you posted and compare it to.... whatever the fuck Unteralterbach is doing

with Bubbukas they don't scream "I based this body off a real child" they are just like.... well anime characters. and my brain registers them as such, whereas the Unteralterbach is triggering my fight or flight as its to close to the real thing and is just creepy as shit

that's why I think there is a line. a line of abstraction. anime lolis are abstract enough to be detached from the IRL equivalent to the point you can't even call them the same thing. and it's a core part of why you can be into them and not be a pedo.

but if you don't make the work abstract enough... you walking into some dangerous territory
To be fair western loli varies a lot in style from artist to artist, afaik unteralterbach is the only one I know that uses this style, most of the ones I follow either are similar to jp loli or to the style the character comes from (as most of it is rule 34 from various cartoons )
 

NretsewThePerv

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To be fair western loli varies a lot in style from artist to artist, afaik unteralterbach is the only one I know that uses this style, most of the ones I follow either are similar to jp loli or to the style the character comes from (as most of it is rule 34 from various cartoons )

I mean if you read what I said. I was only talking about unteralterbach's work and all artworks regardless of who makes it in general. I was not making any comments about east Vs west. more about art styles in a general since

there are plenty of eastern made works I could talk about that cross the same kinda boundary. on Pixiv you can find a lot of people doing shit with realistic looking 3D models that I find just as creepy as untera.

so yeah I was not bashing "western loli" I was bashing artists whose work is not abstract enough and is too realistic to the point they look like real kids and not "anime characters" that it creeps me out. also not saying it should be censored and more power to you if you are fine with it. but for me, its where I kinda draw the line and I'm just not into it
 
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