Discussion Nintendo Switch 2 Thread

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Price, physical media worries, backwards-compatibility issues

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Overview:
  • The Nintendo Switch 2 will launch on the 5th of June, 2025 at a retail price of $450 USD
  • Physical and digital games will sell at an increased price between $80-90 USD (other regions are already more expensive)
  • Switch 2's screen is 1920x1080 with HDR and 120Hz
  • TV Mode allows for 4K/60fps gaming (some games like Metroid Prime 4 can run at 1080p/120fps)
  • 256 GB internal storage; you MUST buy microSD Express cards for more space (regular microSDs will not be supported)
  • Switch 2 has a built-in microphone, no info as to whether you can turn it off permanently (camera sold separately)
  • Battery life is anywhere between 2-6.5 hours
  • Some Switch 2 games will NOT be on the cartridge, instead they're game keys for Internet downloads
  • As of the 3rd of April, some games have compatibility issues, including Senran Kagura Reflexions, Neptunia, Kill la Kill -IF-, etc. (PDF links); it's expected these will be ironed out over time (full compatibility list here)
  • Some games will receive free updates on Switch 2 to improve performance, most notably Pokémon Scarlet/Violet (Game Freak fell for the hardware-will-compensate-for-bad-optimization meme)
  • OTHER games, however, will follow the PS5 model of selling you upgrades and Switch 2 Editions (e.g. Breath of the Wild) - upgrades will cost either $10 or $20 more
  • Japan will be selling two different Switch 2s: multi-language and REGION-LOCKED Japanese (with JP language-only games) - no solid info as of now why they did this (some speculate it's due to a weak yen and anti-poaching measures)
  • EDIT: I forgot to mention that NSO will include GameCube emulation exclusive to Switch 2 (games include Wind Waker, Soul Calibur II, both Pokémon Colosseum games, Fire Emblem, F-Zero GX, etc.)

...But hey, at least more Mario, amirite? Gotta beat those pesky pirates...


Confirmed games (archive here):

June, 2025​

  • Arcade Archives 2: Ridge Racer (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Bravely Default: Flying Fairy HD Remaster (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Deltarune (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Fast Fusion (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Fortnite (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Hitman World of Assassination - Signature Edition (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Hogwarts Legacy (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Kunitsu-Gami: Path of the Goddess (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Mario Kart World (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Nintendo GameCube Nintendo Classics (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • NOBUNAGA'S AMBITION Awakening Complete Edition (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Puyo Puyo Tetris 2S (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Sid Meier's Civilization VII (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Split Fiction (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Street Fighter VI: Fighters Edition (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Survival Kids (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • Yakuza 0: Director's Cut (Switch 2) - June 5th
  • RAIDOU Remastered: The Mystery of the Soulless Army (Switch 2) - June 19th
  • Tamagotchi Plaza (Switch 2) - June 27th

July, 2025​

  • Donkey Kong Bananza (Switch 2) - July 17th
  • Shadow Labyrinth (Switch 2) - July 18th
  • No Sleep For Kaname Date - From AI: THE SOMNIUM FILES (Switch 2) - July 25th
  • Wild Hearts S (Switch 2) - July 25th

July, 2025 (Tentative)​

  • Super Mario Party Jamboree (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) + Jamboree TV (Switch 2) - July 2025

August, 2025​

  • Kirby and the Forgotten Land (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) + Star Crossed World (Switch 2) - August 28th

September, 2025​

  • Daemon x Machina: Titanic Scion (Switch 2) - September 5th

Q3 2025​

  • Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3+4 (Switch 2) - Q3 2025

Q4 2025​

  • Hyrule Warriors: Age of Imprisonment (Switch 2) - Q4 2025
  • MARVEL Cosmic Invasion (Switch 2) - Q4 2025
  • My Time at Evershine (Switch 2) - Q4 2025
  • Pokemon Legends Z-A (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) (Switch 2) - Q4 2025 (UK/EU)
  • Pokemon Legends Z-A (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) (Switch 2) - Q4 2025 (US)
  • Witchbrook (Switch 2) - Q4 2025

2025 (Tentative)​

  • Aurascope (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Borderlands 4 (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Drag x Drive (Switch 2) - 2025
  • EA SPORTS FC 2026 (Switch 2) - 2025
  • EA SPORTS Madden NFL 2026 (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Elden Ring: Tarnished Edition (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Final Fantasy VII Remake Intergrade (Switch 2) - 2025
  • FUR Squadron Phoenix (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Goodnight Universe (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Hades II (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Hollow Knight: Silksong (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Kirby Air Riders (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Metroid Prime 4: Beyond (Nintendo Switch 2 Edition) (Switch 2) - 2025
  • NBA 2K (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Professor Layton and The New World of Steam (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Reanimal (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Star Wars Outlaws (Switch 2) - 2025
  • Two Point Museum (Switch 2) - 2025
  • WWE 2K (Switch 2) - 2025

2026 (Tentative)​

  • Bestiario (Switch 2) - 2026
  • Enter the Gungeon 2 (Switch 2) - 2026
  • Human Fall Flat 2 (Switch 2) - 2026
  • Project 007 (Switch 2) - 2026
  • Starseeker: Astroneer Expeditions (Switch 2) - 2026
  • The Duskbloods (Switch 2) - 2026


There will also be two games that weren't showcased in the English Direct:

Obakeidoro 2


And Shine Post: Be Your Idol by Konami

 
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I'm hoping the region lock makes Japanese devs more comfortable making two separate versions of their games again instead of having a global censored version. The 3DS/Wii U era was better for Japan than the Switch era probably because of their region lock. Bravely Default will be a good litmus test for that since it was censored on 3DS outside of Japan, so hopefully it remains uncensored in Japan still.

But otherwise I am not interested in Switch 2 until I see a serious reversal of Nintendo's recent censorship.
 
I'm hoping the region lock makes Japanese devs more comfortable making two separate versions of their games again instead of having a global censored version. The 3DS/Wii U era was better for Japan than the Switch era probably because of their region lock. Bravely Default will be a good litmus test for that since it was censored on 3DS outside of Japan, so hopefully it remains uncensored in Japan still.

But otherwise I am not interested in Switch 2 until I see a serious reversal of Nintendo's recent censorship.
I mean Japanese companies could have just released a region-free version in Japan. Until last year, there weren't any external forces stopping the Japanese from releasing uncensored games exclusively onto Nintendo Switch.

Though I guess it can lead to pirateable uncensored Japanese games. I hope AI translation technology gets good enough for AI fan translation to be viable soon. A single fan translation is a huge undertaking that take years of hard work to complete.

As much as I would like to support Nintendo of Japan if they have uncensored Japanese games on their platform, I don't speak Japanese, and I'm sure Nintendo of Japan is taking counter-measures against console modding.
 
I'm hoping the region lock makes Japanese devs more comfortable making two separate versions of their games again instead of having a global censored version. The 3DS/Wii U era was better for Japan than the Switch era probably because of their region lock. Bravely Default will be a good litmus test for that since it was censored on 3DS outside of Japan, so hopefully it remains uncensored in Japan still.
I wondered about this, too. Perhaps it won't just be an avenue for uncensored Japanese games; maybe they're bringing back Japan-only games wholesale. That does suck for compatibility (I own a few JP games on Switch), but if that means the only obstacle devs have to deal with is CERO (and NOT localizers), then I'm willing to give Nintendo their due. Freedom of expression is more important than user convenience.

But otherwise I am not interested in Switch 2 until I see a serious reversal of Nintendo's recent censorship.
This is also a concern.
 
Why is nobody talking about how Nintendo is butchering Donkey Kong? I already hated the redesign from the movie, but it seems like Nintendo is implementing it in both the upcoming Mario Kart game AND an upcoming Donkey Kong game.

Does Universal Studio actually have a ton of power over Nintendo now?
 
That does suck for compatibility
I don't think we will have to worry about compatibility since the rest of the world has the multi language model by default. Rather than a traditional region lock it's more of a language lock on Japan's model where they can't change the system language to anything but Japanese; a gimped version to prevent scalpers selling it outside of Japan.
 
I'm hoping the region lock makes Japanese devs more comfortable making two separate versions of their games again instead of having a global censored version. The 3DS/Wii U era was better for Japan than the Switch era probably because of their region lock. Bravely Default will be a good litmus test for that since it was censored on 3DS outside of Japan, so hopefully it remains uncensored in Japan still.

But otherwise I am not interested in Switch 2 until I see a serious reversal of Nintendo's recent censorship.
This can go two ways.

1. They will Region Lock themselves from outside forces especially Overseas and will not produce a Global Version. Reminder they have a Japanese Only Switch 2 which will only work in Japan itself. There is a huge possibility this is going to be way more restrictive to not only prevent China from importing their own Switch 2's, but also to prevent people overseas from using it to play their games, but that is up in the air because it's not out yet.

2. This is to like you mention make a Global Version and an Uncensored version. But I have this weird feeling that this is going to mean more games that are Japan Only, but no longer Overseas in mind, because to Japan they currently are mad enough there to not want to move anything West or deal with Censorship, so they wish to keep it Japan Only until the Overseas Branches change their stances(Nintendo Of America, Nintendo Of Europe, Nintendo Of Asia).

In all honesty I would be extremely worried if I am NOA because they have been riding comfortably thanks to the No Censorship policy, but now that NOJ has region locked itself out, and can make Games Japan Only without needing to care about putting Games Overseas. NOA will lose money over time due to the Weeb Audience no longer buying Switch 2 or spending much on their store to begin with. It's essentially up to NOA/NOE to now either stop censoring, allow Japanese Games to be unfiltered, or it does not come West and make money for those branches anymore.

Overview:
  • The Nintendo Switch 2 will launch on the 5th of June, 2025 at a retail price of $450 USD
  • Physical and digital games will sell at an increased price between $80-90 USD (other regions are already more expensive)
I am really shocked about 450$ price point, people keep saying it's the Tarif's and I believed it at first until I realized this is for all regions. Everyone is going to be paying this inflated price. As for Physical and Digital Games being 80$-90$ I do have a strange feeling this is Nintendo trying to get ahead before GTAVI does it first with 100$ price point. I will give a very controversial take and say this is potentially good news. It's going to be difficult to explain but keep with me here. If more games go to 80-120$ it can filter out the Blue Ocean and the Fake Fans from purchasing Games as they like these Games, but they do not love them to put more money into these series. For Red Ocean Hardcore types like ourselves we will buy these games if the value and price are worth it. For example let's say Xenoblade Chronicles X2 was 80$ It had AI Translation, Zero Censorship, and it had Extra Fanservice Content. All of us here will buy it because it's worth the Value and the Premium Price point it is selling for. Most of us might even be willing to pay 100$ or 120$ for Deluxe and Ultimate Sets if we are even greater fans of these series as a whole. Which we do exist.

This also is bad news for Western Branches in America like NISA, Square Enix, etc etc. Because if Japan gets it's way and GTAVI happens with 100$ price point, it does mean no more uniform pricing, and they do have to make it worth what people pay into for 80-120$ price tags otherwise it fails and can lead to the deaths of these studios. AI Translation, Zero Censorship and Extra Fanservice Content will be the way they need to move forward with that. Without all of those key things together the Western Branches will die, and NOA will be in trouble as Blue Oceans will never pay those prices, but the Hardcore Red Ocean Audiences can and will do so. It forces their hand and the cards are in our favor now. It's a Red Ocean Hardcore Paradise because they need to add value and make it worth the higher prices, it's time we make that argument online more often. Nobody is going to pay 80-120$ unless it's uncensored, AI Translation, Zero Censorship and it's authentic to the Japanese Experience.

Note: Even Gacha does the same thing as well, any form of Censorship, bad translations can mean a death of a game and it lives off of monthly revenue and it's volatile. It's why they have to lean heavily on Fanservice and being as uncensored as possible and can not afford to mess it up. This is the same mechanism in place for Video Games with higher price points.

  • Some Switch 2 games will NOT be on the cartridge, instead they're game keys for Internet downloads
This one is extremely concerning, especially in countries with barely any internet access and in Military Bases that have no Internet at all. It still exists in other parts of the world and South America/Latin America was freaking out because it's obvious it's to deter Piracy but it's also going to harm those who do not do Piracy themselves. I will not be surprised if this pushes a lot of people to PC/Steam Deck.
 
NOA will lose money over time due to the Weeb Audience no longer buying Switch 2 or spending much on their store to begin with. It's essentially up to NOA/NOE to now either stop censoring, allow Japanese Games to be unfiltered, or it does not come West and make money for those branches anymore.
Sadly for us, the weeb audience is negligible compared to the normie crowd. Nintendo has already alienated the weeb audience with the Nintendo Switch being included in 3rd party censorship, and it only made a tiny dent compared to the normie crowd buying the latest Marios, Zeldas, Pokemons, and Super Smash Bros games in record amounts.

Also, consumers are a lot dumber and have much lower standards than they used to. Unlike us real geeks, there's a significant demographic of soyboys who made corporate brands their religion. They have zero standards as to the quality of games being put out, and will spend a ton of money on the most expensive version of a shitty game, as long as it has big brand name attached to it. Remember how many people were willing to spend over $100,000 on a PS5. That's the kind of blind fanboyism that stops companies from being held accountable for their anti-customer tactics.
 
The normie crowd doesn't seem to follow after successful hardware. Wii's success did not carry over to the Wii U. It's quite likely that people won't move to the Switch 2, just like PSP had a huge otome ge base that simply did not want to move to the Vita for their visual novels.
 
With how expensive the games for a switch2 are and the fact that Nintendo has thrown the fanservice enjoyers under the bus.

The switch2 is looking like a skip to me outside of maybe picking up a refurb to solder a hardware mod to in a few years from now.

It really just makes the eventual steam deck2 look more affordable by comparison.

I can justify spending 1000+ cad on a deck2. It's also a pc and not a locked box.

I have a hard time justifying a switch2 which is a locked box with really expensive games.
Especially since the game cartridges are now drm keys being a beta test to probably switch 3 when they go digital only.
 
Sadly for us, the weeb audience is negligible compared to the normie crowd. Nintendo has already alienated the weeb audience with the Nintendo Switch being included in 3rd party censorship, and it only made a tiny dent compared to the normie crowd buying the latest Marios, Zeldas, Pokemons, and Super Smash Bros games in record amounts.
The Normal Crowd is not going to buy inflated prices. They will always justify prices when it's affordable. But push things way too high then they will become aversive to it. Only the most dedicated will buy the Switch 2. Only the most dedicated will buy these games. The main issue comes down to the fact they will not sustain Nintendo because as much as Nintendo gets money from 1st party, the most important is that the E-Shop is healthy and sales are high. If it ends up being lower on Switch 2 than Switch 1 Nintendo will enter into panic mode. It happened with Wii-U then they backpeddled to 3DS. No reason to think the same will happen here.
Also, consumers are a lot dumber and have much lower standards than they used to. Unlike us real geeks, there's a significant demographic of soyboys who made corporate brands their religion. They have zero standards as to the quality of games being put out, and will spend a ton of money on the most expensive version of a shitty game, as long as it has big brand name attached to it. Remember how many people were willing to spend over $100,000 on a PS5. That's the kind of blind fanboyism that stops companies from being held accountable for their anti-customer tactics.
I agree. But the thing is those are a small minority. They will justify any practice a company does like a brand ambassador. In America majority are not rich kids or middle class a majority are in the lower middle to lower income bracket. In this case they do not appeal to rich people as much. Sony does because they are trying to become the "Premium Brand" with nothing to offer.

With how expensive the games for a switch2 are and the fact that Nintendo has thrown the fanservice enjoyers under the bus.
See that's the problem if they had Japanese Games that were not censored and poorly translated it would actually be justified for the price and people would buy it. But it's not.
It really just makes the eventual steam deck2 look more affordable by comparison.
Honestly i am looking forward to Emulation and paying for a Steamdeck 2 if it's better than a Switch 2 or even a PC handheld that has SteamOS on it. As bad as people will say Valve has in fact been a coin flip in approvals. At least you can buy from other stores and are not locked into a single store.
I have a hard time justifying a switch2 which is a locked box with really expensive games.
Especially since the game cartridges are now drm keys being a beta test to probably switch 3 when they go digital only.
I agree. If the expensive games were worth what was being asked people would buy. But because it's not worth it other than a high price it's not worth it. Also the DRM Keys are a no go for Physical this generation. Nintendo royally messed up on this one.
 
Honestly the only reason I can see to get a Switch 2 at launch is in anticipation of cracks and bypassing the entire 90 dollar price point for games entirely. But that would be immoral and illegal and certainly not something I'd do.
 
I'm curious if Nintendo will still provide games for the Switch 1 now that there's "Switch 2 Edition" games. Metroid Prime 4 will be released on both Switch consoles, but I doubt that there's gonna be any more new Switch 2 exclusive titles that are also available on the old one (even with high prices) around launch. Regardless, I'm satisfied with my Switch (that has the Tegra exploit), especially with the huge library of exclusives.
 
well i guess first and foremost IM NOT FUCKING PAYING 90 BUCKS FOR A GAME EVER

even less so from a company that as recently started censoring 3rd party games.

tho that thing you mentioned about the regionlocked switch 2 seems mildly interesting, as things stand right now i have no hope for the japanese as they have been embracing global faggotry more and more BUT in the rare case that the region locked switch 2 sparks again that old fanservice spirit within the nihonjin then i'll see it as a win
 
I'm curious if Nintendo will still provide games for the Switch 1 now that there's "Switch 2 Edition" games. Metroid Prime 4 will be released on both Switch consoles, but I doubt that there's gonna be any more new Switch 2 exclusive titles that are also available on the old one (even with high prices) around launch. Regardless, I'm satisfied with my Switch (that has the Tegra exploit), especially with the huge library of exclusives.
I do think there will be cross-generational games still. But Nintendo usually does this as sort of a backup plan. When the WII-U was doing very poorly they went back to the 3DS and put a lot of their effort on it with Monster Hunter and Xenoblade when the WII-U was nearing release. They also did the same with WII-U Slightly with Zelda BOTW when Switch came out in case the Switch Failed. Switch will be this generations version of the PS4 at this rate. Because the problem with the Switch 2 will be the same problem the PS5 is dealing with. Censorship which is not good at all. Unless NOA/NOE reverses it's stance or there is some great convincing reason to go on the platform I will go full on Emulation.

well i guess first and foremost IM NOT FUCKING PAYING 90 BUCKS FOR A GAME EVER

even less so from a company that as recently started censoring 3rd party games.
I can agree. The only thing that would make me do so is if the Game was uncensored, had AI Translations and had extra content. Ironic that they thing they are doing is not adding value but making people question it's value and the price according to the value of the product itself. I mean what 90$ game is worth that price if it's awfully censored, it's badly localized? I mean products should be dropping their prices if they do that poor of a job anyways.
tho that thing you mentioned about the regionlocked switch 2 seems mildly interesting, as things stand right now i have no hope for the japanese as they have been embracing global faggotry more and more BUT in the rare case that the region locked switch 2 sparks again that old fanservice spirit within the nihonjin then i'll see it as a win
That's what it's meant to do. Why do you think they created the Region Locked Japanese Switch? Let alone have it only work if it's in the Region of Japan? I am not mad about it at all they have to do that and to lock Overseas out from importing and to have their own platform away from us. But I am mad at NOA/NOE and Nintendo Of Asia. It's their own fault for trying to enforce "GLOBAL STANDARDS", DEI/ESG and the Localizers alongside the Execs of the Western Branches thinking this would be a huge win, when it did devastating damage to Japan at home and Overseas. It makes me glad they are keeping it at home and not caring than to push it overseas and even bending backwards to censor it to make it over here. Until these branches and localizers change their minds, Japan should not import anything over here at all. Hell if they put it out for 90$ it might bankrupt the Western Branches quicker.
 
That's what it's meant to do. Why do you think they created the Region Locked Japanese Switch? Let alone have it only work if it's in the Region of Japan? I am not mad about it at all they have to do that and to lock Overseas out from importing and to have their own platform away from us. But I am mad at NOA/NOE and Nintendo Of Asia. It's their own fault for trying to enforce "GLOBAL STANDARDS", DEI/ESG and the Localizers alongside the Execs of the Western Branches thinking this would be a huge win, when it did devastating damage to Japan at home and Overseas. It makes me glad they are keeping it at home and not caring than to push it overseas and even bending backwards to censor it to make it over here. Until these branches and localizers change their minds, Japan should not import anything over here at all. Hell if they put it out for 90$ it might bankrupt the Western Branches quicker.
I legitimately feel like the reason why japan has a regionlocked switch 2 being sold for cheaper is that they don't want to end up like sony and the PS5 in japan. Where no one has a PS5 in japan because it was getting scalped and that the PS5 continues to go up in price as the yen goes to shit. Nintendo saw this and went man I really don't want to end up SHAMEFUR DISPRAY DISHONOUR UPON the japanese people by effectively losing their heritage like sony did.

Though in all honesty the fact that Nintendo raised the price of the games to 80 usd probably isn't going to do them any favours in japan when the yen is so dogshit. I feel like the fact that they raised the price is potentially going to hurt sales of the product due to you know No one having money.

Oh well I guess we'll see if nintendrones gonna consoom or if they'll refuse to consoom at 80 usd and everything ends up 70 usd or something. Worst case scenario if Nintendo raises the price of videogames overall industry wide. Father Time is undefeated for games on PC they all eventually go on sale it's only a matter of time. We all have such large backlogs anyways we can wait.
 
I legitimately feel like the reason why japan has a regionlocked switch 2 being sold for cheaper is that they don't want to end up like sony and the PS5 in japan. Where no one has a PS5 in japan because it was getting scalped and that the PS5 continues to go up in price as the yen goes to shit. Nintendo saw this and went man I really don't want to end up SHAMEFUR DISPRAY DISHONOUR UPON the japanese people by effectively losing their heritage like sony did.

Though in all honesty the fact that Nintendo raised the price of the games to 80 usd probably isn't going to do them any favours in japan when the yen is so dogshit. I feel like the fact that they raised the price is potentially going to hurt sales of the product due to you know No one having money.

Oh well I guess we'll see if nintendrones gonna consoom or if they'll refuse to consoom at 80 usd and everything ends up 70 usd or something. Worst case scenario if Nintendo raises the price of videogames overall industry wide. Father Time is undefeated for games on PC they all eventually go on sale it's only a matter of time. We all have such large backlogs anyways we can wait.
I think it's both. To Prevent Scalping and also to make sure Japan has it's own Console for themselves while locking the entire world out. I can not blame them for the decision. It's the Overseas that are at fault not Japan itself. But yes lol I agree the 80$ price tag is huge, but I think they are willing to take that hit for the fact Nintendo basically protected them from Overseas Censorship and created a Home Market without needing to cater to Overseas.
 
So I stumbled upon a video in Discord, which according to the one who posted it, confirms that:
So.
Nintendo shuts down switch emulators.
Creates their own switch emulator/translation layer with their own compatibility chart.
So Yuzu/Ryujinx really was a direct competitor to whats going on here.
The video is linked here:
 
So I stumbled upon a video in Discord, which according to the one who posted it, confirms that:

The video is linked here:
It goes to show that the existing Switch emulators could easily patch in Switch 2 game support. Nintendo saw this as a threat.

I wonder if this also means their hardware security hasn't improved all that much.
 
I haven't played console games for like 20 years. Enjoy your $90 games while I refuse to pay more than $15 for a video game on steam
 
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