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Migi

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Dumb question, would writing to Seven Seas and letting them know my concerns about their localizations even make a difference? I have the feeling it'd be a waste of a stamp and it'd fall on deaf ears.
It will fall on deaf ears if it's just one person doing it. I have been writing a lot to Bamco and Square, and they still keep carrying on the same way for years.
Bandai Namco only give like the standard Pr reply, and Square Enix you get absolutely no reply.
 

translation gundam

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the issue is with a lot of these companies, is they have a lot members who are part of the cartel, and that not including the people that are helping them.
it isn't just seven seas, its fucken all of them, and the few companies that try to keep them out, have to work with them anyway.
it's one big fucken network.
if you want to take these people on, you got to chip away at there network, one step at a time, and never relent on that.
because you got to turn there greatest strength into a weakness, because while there all in this one massive Clique, they are by nature are a very Cliquish organization.
they will eat there own once there support network starts crumbling around them.

so organizing a list, is a good start.
but the deciding factor is how are you going to use that information.
 
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Halo

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I second this notion
If there are no objections, I am taking executive command of this effort
If you are interested or know anyone who is interested in helping with the threads, DM me or find me on the fediverse (im on poa.st)
so organizing a list, is a good start.

@VidMasterEon if you want to get it rolling I believe the best bet is to just make the first thread yourself.
Katrina is a good place to start i think we've got a decent chunk of info on her, you'll just have to compile it into a thread and figure out how to organize it. It'll be a template for others so try to come up with something easy to read for outside visitors so they can quickly find important stuff if needed

but the deciding factor is how are you going to use that information.
in my opinion the use is to create a detailed list for users to use that can be spread to outsiders quickly and easily.
The important part is to get awareness for the misdoing so more people rally around the forum and help out by contributing, documenting, or writing threads.
The moves after an audience/userbase has been gathered is a bit more blurry but I think our translation group is also another great point for people to help with/see as an example of fan translations > the cabal

The problem is of course, the first person to get the ball rolling with a thread
 

NretsewThePerv

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I think once someone makes the first thread. something I think is going to take a bit as they dradge the list thread to get all the caps and archive links for it

we should have a new subcategory dedicated to all localization topics. I think someone else prob vid already pointed this out. I think the current censorship category should stay to cover non-localizor related censorship topics (CCP, SJW, cancelling etc) but have a "localization hub" for all things localization related

I also think Holo you should make a pinned post that is something like your template post you made a while back in here. to give people a good idea of how to format their threads unless Vid has a better idea on how to format it in that case replace it with his to keep things constant

I would also say we should have another pined thread that works as an index. List all the people and companies that already have threads so we dont get double-ups. and also make it easier for people to find what they are looking for. if let's say they are a YouTuber looking for info on someone etc

right now we are in the "laying the groundwork and infrastructure" stage and I think it might be better to set up the subcategory and pined threads soon even if we dont have any content yet. it will give people more structure and might encourage them to get to it while we wait on Vid to do his thing

I dont know if im game to work on making an OP and running it right now but im keeping an eye out and archiving and posting things I find in the list thread in the meantime. and if anyone needs help/assistance in finding info and the like that's something I can look into
 

Halo

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we should have a new subcategory dedicated to all localization topics. I think someone else prob vid already pointed this out. I think the current censorship category should stay to cover non-localizor related censorship topics (CCP, SJW, cancelling etc) but have a "localization hub" for all things localization related
yeah I already have that all thought out. Just waiting for the first few threads to come up to move them into place.

actually... i'm 99% sure I said we'll do everything you pointed out in this post so no worries there.
and if I haven't said it just know i've thought it and it is planned.
 

Meemoo

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@VidMasterEon if you want to get it rolling I believe the best bet is to just make the first thread yourself.
Katrina is a good place to start i think we've got a decent chunk of info on her, you'll just have to compile it into a thread and figure out how to organize it. It'll be a template for others so try to come up with something easy to read for outside visitors so they can quickly find important stuff if needed


in my opinion the use is to create a detailed list for users to use that can be spread to outsiders quickly and easily.
The important part is to get awareness for the misdoing so more people rally around the forum and help out by contributing, documenting, or writing threads.
The moves after an audience/userbase has been gathered is a bit more blurry but I think our translation group is also another great point for people to help with/see as an example of fan translations > the cabal

The problem is of course, the first person to get the ball rolling with a thread

I guess I'm gonna have to pick up the torch and kickstart the whole thing (again).
I just went through the entirety of the thread and collected all the evidence we have on Meru.
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unfortunately it seems the forum's servers shat themselves at some point and lost a very valuable piece of evidence
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image im pointing my cursor at won't load.
it'd really save me a lot of trouble if you could somehow grab that image from the database (if it's even there)

also in what category should I make the thread?
 

Meemoo

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looks like that image was actually an embed to a now delete tweet meaning that it was never posted on the site and therefore is lost media :bep-what:

this is why archiving evidence is so important people :tablesmack:

id say just salp it in censorship for now and then @holo can move it later as he said
alright I will make my thread there.
just need to brainstorm a layout and see about presenting the evidence
hope my brain is still functional after this all-nighter :gura-pain:
 

NretsewThePerv

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hope my brain is still functional after this all-nighter :gura-pain:
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also holo posted a template a while back in this thread that might help

looks like that image was actually an embed to a now delete tweet meaning that it was never posted on the site and therefore is lost media :bep-what:

this is why everyone needs to remember and get into the habit of

ARCHIVING YOUR FUCKEN SHIT. IT WILL SAVE LIVES
 

Meemoo

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thread is done.

please head over and give it a look:

let me know if you have any suggestions on things I could add/change
 

VidMasterEon

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thread is done.

please head over and give it a look:

let me know if you have any suggestions on things I could add/change
Good job
I should be done with the katrina one tonight
 

Halo

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alright I added the Localizers subforum.
Once the Katrina thread is ready I'll make the "index" thread.

Also format titles like this (yes the kiwifarms way). It gives the thread a better chance of getting picked up by google when someone searches their name
Primary Name / @name / alias / alias / alias
 

VidMasterEon

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jobs done
worried how it will turn out but I think I did ok
I put a write up about the koisuru incident in there because she put herself at the epicenter
 

Halo

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jobs done
worried how it will turn out but I think I did ok
I put a write up about the koisuru incident in there because she put herself at the epicenter
firstly good work on that. very detailed, love it.

Secondly
if anyone wants to make a suggestion on the format, feel free to tell me here. I'm gonna lock the thread just to keep it clean and purely as an index.

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If anyone has more examples of Merus works you should talk to Meemoo, i feel translation wise it was lacking a bit.
 

Meemoo

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Secondly
if anyone wants to make a suggestion on the format, feel free to tell me here. I'm gonna lock the thread just to keep it clean and purely as an index.
added a link to the index to my thread for ease of navigation. I suggest Vid do the same for his thread so newbies don't get lost.

If anyone has more examples of Merus works you should talk to Meemoo, i feel translation wise it was lacking a bit.
yeah I didn't have much to work with in that regard. most examples in our threads are usually things she says online. I could really use more bad localization examples from her works.

if you guys have anything then either put them up on her thread or dm me somewhere else
 
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Meemoo

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that being said though

I wonder what I should do about the shitty localizers thread

insert a link to the index and describe it as a place for gathering evidence etc. ?
 

VidMasterEon

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that being said though

I wonder what I should do about the shitty localizers thread

insert a link to the index and describe it as a place for gathering evidence etc. ?
I say rename it to "shitty localization general" and throw it in with our threads
Also i reccommend you put merus company in the threads name so that search engines can pick it up too
 
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