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JX475 said:
The AI is accurate, the other one this guy did is not. That is all there is to it. Nobody cares about prose, styling, and trying to make it sound like something that it is not saying.
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It looks like it's both wrong.
イエロースター
ま 仮の姿だからね
本当は八頭身のびじょだし
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イエロースター looks like transliteration of Yellow Star
ま is some expression
仮 temporary
の possesive particle
姿 appearance
だから from this, "therefore"
ね isn't it?
本当 hontou, really
八頭身 I'm not familiar with this phrase, looking it up in dictionary comes as body higher than 8 head lengths which is apparently some phrase denoting someone of beauty. I guess this is the culture dependent thing to highlight.
美女　pretty woman
だし (end sentence, I'm bad with japanese so I just looked it up, functions in this context as a end of statement to a list of reasons (therefore, since))

I thought that impact font text was swapped for a bit and got me in a loop.
So maybe take the keikau means plan route, hattoushin means 8 heads high proportioned body.
 
JX475 said:
I keep thinking the main problem is just sunk cost, they spent so much time playing the game that they wish to sound pretentious and act like they are superior. It's like seeing Dunning Kruger in action at times when they speak "I know Japanese" "You are insecure" it's like this projection and pretend knowledge to act like they are the authority and are delusional despite evidence pointing to the fact the script is altered in ways that really change the world and characters in such a way that waters things down. There is zero defense against something that alters the meaning of things with the exception of names due to copyright infringement.

I find it funny as it goes on he starts to write less words and begins to realize he can not formulate an argument without using "But the Official DEV team had input" which they should realize is a weak defense. They do not know English, Spanish, Tagalog,German, Italiano, British, or any of the other languages in that studio so of course the NOA/NOE accounts are going to use that as advertisement to cover the Translators for messing anything up. Also have they considered that Xenoblade Chronicles would sell a lot more if the story was what it originally supposed to be? I wish people could see the differences like a scene by scene example of it in Japanese, in English and in the version you are creating that have huge impact so they can realize just how heavy the censorship is and realize that the Japanese Version and your Version are superior to theirs because it's Authentic, it's not trying to be something that it's not. The worst excuse was seeing how "it would distort the characters" if it was written near 1:1 from the Japanese counterpart. When they have NO real basis for that to begin with and could not name examples. Japanese things always have origins from various religions and is theistic to a fault with multiple gods, religions etc and it's what Xenoblade Chronicles is truly about in the grand narrative.
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Sunk cost is definitely a good point to bring up. I've seen way too many people solely blame localizers for why video game localization still exists. While they ARE a problem, another reason why translations of Japanese video games are still so bad and still contain outdated practices like name changes, westernization, and rewrites and thus haven't been improved upon like the translations for anime and manga is the gamers themselves. Most western gamers never evolved with the fans of anime and manga to embrace true accuracy, and thus never left behind the fabrications and distorted personalities. I am not saying that ALL western gamers were localization defenders, but it is clear most didn't care about translation quality(partly since video games back then used to be GAMES and not semi-interactive movies).
 
ジエントＰ said:
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It looks like it's both wrong.

イエロースター looks like transliteration of Yellow Star
ま is some expression
仮 temporary
の possesive particle
姿 appearance
だから from this, "therefore"
ね isn't it?
本当 hontou, really
八頭身 I'm not familiar with this phrase, looking it up in dictionary comes as body higher than 8 head lengths which is apparently some phrase denoting someone of beauty. I guess this is the culture dependent thing to highlight.
美女　pretty woman
だし (end sentence, I'm bad with japanese so I just looked it up, functions in this context as a end of statement to a list of reasons (therefore, since))

I thought that impact font text was swapped for a bit and got me in a loop.
So maybe take the keikau means plan route, hattoushin means 8 heads high proportioned body.
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You are right. "八頭身(hattoushin)" literally means that the length of the body is 8 times the length of the head. It is a phrase specifically referring to the proportions of the body relative to height. Whereas "bombshell" does not necessary imply height and tends to be synonymous with having a voluptuous figure. There also seems to be some cultural context like you said. According to a Japanese Wikipedia article the phrase "八頭身美人(8-heads-tall beauty)" was popularized by descriptions of a Miss Universe model named Kinuko Itou(伊東絹子). So the closest translation of this part would be something like "I'm a really a bombshell with a model body."
 
ジエントＰ said:
?
It looks like it's both wrong.

イエロースター looks like transliteration of Yellow Star
ま is some expression
仮 temporary
の possesive particle
姿 appearance
だから from this, "therefore"
ね isn't it?
本当 hontou, really
八頭身 I'm not familiar with this phrase, looking it up in dictionary comes as body higher than 8 head lengths which is apparently some phrase denoting someone of beauty. I guess this is the culture dependent thing to highlight.
美女　pretty woman
だし (end sentence, I'm bad with japanese so I just looked it up, functions in this context as a end of statement to a list of reasons (therefore, since))

I thought that impact font text was swapped for a bit and got me in a loop.
So maybe take the keikau means plan route, hattoushin means 8 heads high proportioned body.
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Maybe bombshell isn't the best word for it, but it definitely isn't meant to be literally translated. It simply means the ideal female proportions/figure

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あんらい said:
Maybe bombshell isn't the best word for it, but it definitely isn't meant to be literally translated. It simply means the ideal female proportions/figure

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I know this really has nothing to do with the conversation but I have to point out two things.

1) It's nice to see translation conversations over what is both the most accurate and overall the best translation to go with.

2) It sucks that translation is so bad that it has to get to that point.
 
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