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Square Enix no longer focusing on the Japanese market.

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This is what greed does to a company and its creativity. It's not about appealing to fun and entertainment. It's about appealing to profits.

For those of you, that think it's not a big deal and no major changes are going to be made keep in mind that the square Enix Ethics department is what influenced a lot of the design aesthetics of the Final Fantasy 7 Remake, such as Tifa's Bust size. I know modding fixed that issue pretty quickly, but some would agree that it's the principle of the thing. If this is honestly how the company feels it's safe to assume that they’re going to defer to the department or western ethical codes for a lot of their decision-making. That means nothing the SJW and christian minority groups deem inappropriate.

Quick disclaimer. I currently haven't the patience nor the time to read the 49-page annual report by Square. So I would appreciate it if someone could. If there is something that Senkaku Complex is getting wrong (it wouldn't surprise me) it should be known before any misinformation is made the alternative fact.
 
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Funny how not too long ago they said that "they can't make good games by trying to copy western games" or something along those lines. But well Square has been pretty shit for a while now, just hope Yoko Taro isn't influenced by it too much or at least gets out sooner rather than later. Don't really care about the rest of Square's games anymore
 

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Funny how not too long ago they said that "they can't make good games by trying to copy western games" or something along those lines. But well Square has been pretty shit for a while now, just hope Yoko Taro isn't influenced by it too much or at least gets out sooner rather than later. Don't really care about the rest of Square's games anymore
I like Yoko Taro design and games and all, but I would still not bother buying them if Square is publishing them, seeing as their translations would still be garbage.

The whole Westernization by Square is nothing new and already started way back when the original PS3 version of Nier replication was being made.

I just wish more people would just drop franchises as they get butchered. All classics are now being butchered and morons still flock to the remakes or reboots of these games while the original are good enough in terms of gameplay. Even now, all these so-called Japanese companies are being led by their western branches.
The most hypocritical stance of these people that buy garbage remakes are those that claim to be against the butchering but still buy the games under the excuse of "If we don't buy it, it might disappear."
 

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Companies like Square and Capcom have fallen into a vicious cycle of pandering to the west, making their games less appealing to Japan, making them think they should pander to the west more. They are no different than any other western company until they break this cycle by going back to their roots and making games Japan likes again.
 

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I like Yoko Taro design and games and all, but I would still not bother buying them if Square is publishing them, seeing as their translations would still be garbage.

The whole Westernization by Square is nothing new and already started way back when the original PS3 version of Nier replication was being made.

I just wish more people would just drop franchises as they get butchered. All classics are now being butchered and morons still flock to the remakes or reboots of these games while the original are good enough in terms of gameplay. Even now, all these so-called Japanese companies are being led by their western branches.
The most hypocritical stance of these people that buy garbage remakes are those that claim to be against the butchering but still buy the games under the excuse of "If we don't buy it, it might disappear."
I'm well aware, but I am at a level where I can easily spot the localization being shit (not that I plan on buying new games anyway) so I enjoyed the Nier games regardless. If I judged every game by its localization there'd be nearly no games to give a shit about. And I'm working on completely bypassing the localization anyway at which point I can pretend 8-4 and other trash companies don't even exist.
 

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They tried this in the 7th gen
That is how we got beloved ips such as mindjack and respected reimagining of established series such as front mission evolved
You would think that with the global success and praise of nier automata they would be more interested in pursuing eccentric ideas
At least i know who to avoid
 

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Harvestella or whatever it was called having a non-binary option makes a shit ton more sense now.
 

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Didn't CAPCOM try this before and failed?

Well I hope SE's executives are happy with getting ESG investments and tranny cock up their ass, cause none of their recent output is worth playing outside of Neir Automata and that's only because of Yoko Taro, if he takes his games elsewhere then SE really has nothing.
 

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Didn't CAPCOM try this before and failed?

Well I hope SE's executives are happy with getting ESG investments and tranny cock up their ass, cause none of their recent output is worth playing outside of Neir Automata and that's only because of Yoko Taro, if he takes his games elsewhere then SE really has nothing.
Pretty much, The Capcom drive for Westernization happened during the Reboots of DMC, Lost Planet 3, and the Bionic Commando. They were all critical failures, so now they are basically Westernizing Japanese titles in different ways. Like with the Resident Evil remakes/reboots, they altered stuff which made the games a lot more empty and cheap.

The weirdest thing is how they tried to change Lost Planet, while the second game had the same design as Monster Hunter and was very entertaining and really stood out during the time it got released. But then again, like today's consumers are full of the stupid people, and they will all flock to the copy pasted games that have been done to death.

Square Enix upcoming western game Forspoken is tanking on YouTube with massive amounts of dislikes.

This was the day that Square went down the drain.
 

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Pretty much, The Capcom drive for Westernization happened during the Reboots of DMC, Lost Planet 3, and the Bionic Commando. They were all critical failures, so now they are basically Westernizing Japanese titles in different ways. Like with the Resident Evil remakes/reboots, they altered stuff which made the games a lot more empty and cheap.
Wasn't the remakes outsourced to some western dev?

Capcom is weird, they had a good run initially with Rockman 11, DMC5, MHW and MHR but they fucked up with the RE remakes and continue to fuck it up further. Can't imagine any of their upcoming games being any good.

Square Enix upcoming western game Forspoken is tanking on YouTube with massive amounts of dislikes.
:flan-yea:

Good, isekai was already overdone, it's not better with niggers and rap.

This was the day that Square went down the drain.
I always hated this shitty version of Nier, never given a shit what westerners prefer, I like Japanese games because it's Japanese, I avoid western games because it's western and I don't want to see western garbage infect Japanese games.
 

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Wasn't the remakes outsourced to some western dev?
They outsourced it as one of their idea's of Westernization. I fear that Inafune basically convinced them that Japanese developers actually sucked, while in reality almost all the good games that ever got release were done by Japanese devs. How Capcom ever went with Inafune idea of western games are better is beyond me.
Capcom is weird, they had a good run initially with Rockman 11, DMC5, MHW and MHR but they fucked up with the RE remakes and continue to fuck it up further. Can't imagine any of their upcoming games being any good.
Capcom already starting to milk fans with nostalgia again, seeing as now they will finally release a full version of RE3, most likely at full price.

Resident Evil village sucked ass, I was expecting them to do more horror, but it just ended up being a generic shooter. The only good thing to come from that game is the fan art.
:flan-yea:

Good, isekai was already overdone, it's not better with niggers and rap.
Totally agree on the last part.

I have a hard time imagining black people as heroes. Guess the whole 13% 54% thing and their own denial of facts sure makes them seem as petty children which makes it hard to imagine them as grown up adults that stand for righteousness.

I always hated this shitty version of Nier, never given a shit what westerners prefer, I like Japanese games because it's Japanese, I avoid western games because it's western and I don't want to see western garbage infect Japanese games.
I bought the game when it went for like a 15 bucks sale, but never played it. I was always hoping for the original to be released and now that it is its translation is pretty butchered, so I guess the only option is to watch the walkthroughs on YouTube by the YouTuber AirdnaPlays who was working on the PS3 translation.
 

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They outsourced it as one of their idea's of Westernization. I fear that Inafune basically convinced them that Japanese developers actually sucked, while in reality almost all the good games that ever got release were done by Japanese devs. How Capcom ever went with Inafune idea of western games are better is beyond me.
Inafune was in a high position at the time and had influence. Shame CAPCOM didn't learn from this and went back to westernizing their games by outsourcing them. You're right there that the best games CAPCOM made were by Japanese devs not western ones, I wish someone would tell management that.

Capcom already starting to milk fans with nostalgia again, seeing as now they will finally release a full version of RE3, most likely at full price.

Resident Evil village sucked ass, I was expecting them to do more horror, but it just ended up being a generic shooter. The only good thing to come from that game is the fan art.
Really? Well there's that CAPCOM greed again, rereleasing the same game with minor additions and charging full price for it, remember Street Fighter?
Only good thing from RE8 was the vampire milf and she wasn't even in the game much, missed opportunity much, if she was actually in the game more I'm sure it would've been better.

Totally agree on the last part.

I have a hard time imagining black people as heroes. Guess the whole 13% 54% thing and their own denial of facts sure makes them seem as petty children which makes it hard to imagine them as grown up adults that stand for righteousness.
They're like that everywhere. Doesn't matter if it's the US, UK, Canada or Australia, it's the same attitude and issues.
I have never seen any Asian, Indian etc respond with "because I'm X" whenever there's an issue but blacks always do, where ever they are they have a chip on their shoulder and expect the world to bend over backwards for them or be assaulted, raped, killed etc.

I bought the game when it went for like a 15 bucks sale, but never played it. I was always hoping for the original to be released and now that it is its translation is pretty butchered, so I guess the only option is to watch the walkthroughs on YouTube by the YouTuber AirdnaPlays who was working on the PS3 translation.
If only the fan translation can be imported in to the PC game, that would be nice.
 

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Really? Well there's that CAPCOM greed again, rereleasing the same game with minor additions and charging full price for it, remember Street Fighter?
Only good thing from RE8 was the vampire milf and she wasn't even in the game much, missed opportunity much, if she was actually in the game more I'm sure it would've been better.
If I recall, at this moment it was just speculation and some claiming it was just fake, but with capcom you'd never know. Like you said, street fighter sold a so called complete game that just had extra characters on the disc. The worse they ever did was I think called Capcom VS marvel 3 where they released a complete edition 9 months later after the initial release of the game.

They're like that everywhere. Doesn't matter if it's the US, UK, Canada or Australia, it's the same attitude and issues.
I have never seen any Asian, Indian etc respond with "because I'm X" whenever there's an issue but blacks always do, where ever they are they have a chip on their shoulder and expect the world to bend over backwards for them or be assaulted, raped, killed etc.
Kinda stupid that the general media think that that demographic is missing role model, while that isn't even a factor in why they are high on crime in general.
Sadly, that does mean that all new entertainment is garbage as a result, and everything that was great will now turn into shit.

I'm sorta surprise these companies haven't gone down the drain yet, to be honest, with all the virtue signaling they have been doing. Nearly ever new game they released are related to diversity, and barely any of them feel like they have a Japanese flavor.

I hope PC gaming is getting more popular in Japan, seeing as the consoles are slowly being ditched by Japanese users. It seems that even Japanese users aren't in the mood for diversity.
 

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I just wish more people would just drop franchises as they get butchered.
This is exactly why this keeps on happening. It's profitable for them and the bigger companies become, the harder it is for passion to matter anymore. Companies just become monoliths and your "coworkers" become just like the bus driver you barely acknowledge. Now imagine you have a higher position as well and you don't even care about games, you're just there for the salary.

Square Enix, Capcom, Sony, they just become bigger and bigger, and since they're global entities, their original culture doesn't even exist anymore.
:flan-yea:

Good, isekai was already overdone,
Shit opinion, gaming barely even touches isekai unlike anime and literature.
Even when it does, it does not follow the trope at all.
it's not better with niggers and rap.
True.

EDIT: Did we all forget about the fact that Square Enix sold their western studios, by the way? Supposedly they want to be attractive to Sony.
 
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Kinda stupid that the general media think that that demographic is missing role model, while that isn't even a factor in why they are high on crime in general.
Sadly, that does mean that all new entertainment is garbage as a result, and everything that was great will now turn into shit.

I'm sorta surprise these companies haven't gone down the drain yet, to be honest, with all the virtue signaling they have been doing. Nearly ever new game they released are related to diversity, and barely any of them feel like they have a Japanese flavor.

I hope PC gaming is getting more popular in Japan, seeing as the consoles are slowly being ditched by Japanese users. It seems that even Japanese users aren't in the mood for diversity.
That's because no one wants to acknowledge the real issues why blacks commit more crime regardless where they are.

I think it's a "too big to fail" at this point, no investors and shareholders will let these big AAA companies die.

Me too, mate.

Shit opinion, gaming barely even touches isekai unlike anime and literature.
Even when it does, it does not follow the trope at all.
That's because isekai doesn't work with video games, you, the player are already entering "another world".
Is the expecation, you enter another world to then enter another world?

Did we all forget about the fact that Square Enix sold their western studios, by the way? Supposedly they want to be attractive to Sony.
Weren't those western series bought by THQ Nordic?
There was also rumors spreading of Sony buying up From Software.
 

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That's because isekai doesn't work with video games
It could work if they actually wanted it to be an isekai, unless you think Mario is somehow the poster child of isekai as well lately.
the player are already entering "another world".
Is the expecation, you enter another world to then enter another world?
:kekw: Bro, if your argument is that every game is an isekai, you're retarded.
Weren't those western series bought by THQ Nordic?
Studios, not series. It was "Embracer" that bought off their western branches, and Square Enix said it wanted to focus on Japanese games.
Now they've changed their stance 6 months later again.
 

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It could work if they actually wanted it to be an isekai, unless you think Mario is somehow the poster child of isekai as well lately.


:kekw: Bro, if your argument is that every game is an isekai, you're retarded.

Studios, not series. It was "Embracer" that bought off their western branches, and Square Enix said it wanted to focus on Japanese games.
Now they've changed their stance 6 months later again.
they will likely still make 'japanese' games just plasticized and packaged for global consumption without any of the eccentricities and things that your average consoomer would find off-putting
I dont see them trying to westernize them again like with what they attempted in the 7th gen

also: how would you make an isekai video game? not one based on an existing IP like an anime/manga/LN but a fresh IP
 

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also: how would you make an isekai video game? not one based on an existing IP like an anime/manga/LN but a fresh IP
starts off as a normal high school dating sim VN in modern day Japan, then you get fucking merked by some Witch/Demon/God/Truck, transported into another world and it turns into a RPG (possibly of the J variety)
 

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That's because isekai doesn't work with video games
Ultima, one of the oldest RPGs that helped spawn the JRPG genre is an isekai. The hero and several of his companions are from Earth, but the games take place in another world called Britannia.
 

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they will likely still make 'japanese' games just plasticized and packaged for global consumption without any of the eccentricities and things that your average consoomer would find off-putting
I dont see them trying to westernize them again like with what they attempted in the 7th gen
I don't see how including a "non binary" option in one of their recent games anything except westernization of Japanese games.

starts off as a normal high school dating sim VN in modern day Japan, then you get fucking merked by some Witch/Demon/God/Truck, transported into another world and it turns into a RPG (possibly of the J variety)
By that standard it's been done numerous times and is not notable enough to say that we need more isekai in video games.
 
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