Censorship The Japanese Communist Party new platform policies is very bad (loli and more at threat) 0

Ellyloop

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Breaking news on japanese twitter, a lot of people are going ape over JCP's new platform policies including loli regulation and a lot more. This is fresh news, so it's still popping off. The thing about japan is you cant trust political parties to defend freedom of expression, but you can typically rely on individuals within each party to keep the party in check. The big issue here is the JCP is the first party I have seen that straight up has loli regulation within it's platform.

Here is one of the most vocal pro freedom of expression politicians commenting on it

"Mr. Communist Party, it looks like you are going to shift to two-dimensional regulation as well."


And here is the contents of the new policy
Child pornography is the worst of all “sexual commercialization”. The definition of child pornography in the Child Pornography Prohibition Law (enacted in 1999, revised in 2004 and 2014) was changed to "depiction of child sexual abuse / sexual exploitation" from the serious human rights violation of sexual abuse / sexual exploitation. We call for the protection of all children to be clarified as the purpose of the legislation and to be more effective.
The current law does not regulate so-called "non-existent child pornography" such as cartoons, anime and games, but Japan has cartoons, anime, CG, videos and online that depict extremely violent child pornography. It has been internationally named as a major producer of games, etc., and special rapporteurs of the United Nations Human Rights Council have recommended more in-depth measures to properly regulate these (2016). Non-existent child pornography disseminates the false social notion that a child can be a target of libido, violence, and an outlet, even if it does not harm any real or living child, and undermines the dignity of the child. Will lead to. We will work together with a wide range of stakeholders to create a social consensus that does not allow children to be the target of sexual abuse or exploitation, while preserving "freedom of expression" and right to privacy.


The fact they bring up the UN and the special rapporteur Maud de Boer-Buquicchio is a big concern as she was a major push back in 2008-2011 to ban loli. Fun fact, The current new Prime Minister Kishida butted heads with this individual to oppose her regulations which was interesting to learn...


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Jahy

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Communists utilizing the "think of the children" argument as an excuse to censor expression and restrict freedoms while distracting attention from the real issues? Color me surprised. :hibiki-chew:

If Japan has any sense, nobody is going to care what a bunch of dumb fuckin' ugly reds think, but I do think that even bringing attention to the topic in an official party platform could potentially draw negative attention from those with more pull as far as policy goes.

Them tripping over themselves by admitting that lolicon "does not [actually] harm any real or living child" is all you really need to see. If these retards actually cared about real children, then they wouldn't be equating non-existent "harm" to real world child explotation. Banning fiction has not and will not ever solve anything.

No better a time to remind everyone of the extremely baste Kumiko Yamada's stance on this sort of fictional depictions of sexual violence and how aggressively working against its existence is complete nonsense and a gross misuse of resources better spent on addressing actual issues involving actual victims.

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island

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Well I cant imagine the commies are very popular in general there in Japan, so I dont see them getting very far. I guess its still good to keep an eye on it tho.
if the end is in sight, someone will definitely channel otoya yamaguchi to save their loli
 
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Narbray

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Well, they are communists, what else can you expect from them.
I don't think that this is really something to worry about. Although as @Hexasheep93 says it wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on them.
 
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Ellyloop

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Well, they are communists, what else can you expect from them.
I don't think that this is really something to worry about. Although as @Hexasheep93 says it wouldn't hurt to keep an eye on them.
The concern is the JCP is currently in a soft coalition with the main opposition party and have promised to work towards common goals and elections are coming up. If you are aware of the recent Feminist Parliamentary drama concerning removing vtubers and that group is entirely composed of JCP/CDP/SDP members(200+ total) so they certainly have some sway.
 

Hexasheep93

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The concern is the JCP is currently in a soft coalition with the main opposition party and have promised to work towards common goals and elections are coming up. If you are aware of the recent Feminist Parliamentary drama concerning removing vtubers and that group is entirely composed of JCP/CDP/SDP members(200+ total) so they certainly have some sway.
Mmm interesting, and what is japan's reaction towards all this?

Also what wasnt there like a huge backlash for that nonsense they pulled
 

chester

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> we will 'protect freedom of expression'
> we will sacrifice freedom of expression to virtue signal and keep up national appearances
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Ellyloop

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Mmm interesting, and what is japan's reaction towards all this?

Also what wasnt there like a huge backlash for that nonsense they pulled
Right now regarding this JCP stuff it's rabid, Im seeing so many lawmakers and artists jump in and take shots at how dumb this is. The feminist parliamentary Group getting vtubers removed is also still raging for several months already. This policy is being called out extra hard cause the JCP promise not to introduce laws to ban art, but instead they will go the route of using pressure groups(feminist parliamentary) instead to make it more socially unacceptable to enjoy this "naughty" stuff.
 

Hexasheep93

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Right now regarding this JCP stuff it's rabid, Im seeing so many lawmakers and artists jump in and take shots at how dumb this is. The feminist parliamentary Group getting vtubers removed is also still raging for several months already. This policy is being called out extra hard cause the JCP promise not to introduce laws to ban art, but instead they will go the route of using pressure groups(feminist parliamentary) instead to make it more socially unacceptable to enjoy this "naughty" stuff.
Lol thats just completely idiotic. So theyre not gonna ban stuff... but theyre gonna ban stuff. Also "socially acceptable" arent otakus basically already that? :gura-pain:
Im hopefull that at election the japanese know who to vote for.

Also I feel the commies are giving the feminists the short end of the stick with that pressure group nonsense. They seem perfectly capable of "pressuring" without the commies help lol :cirno-laugh:
 

Scornful Gaze

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What's particularly funny about all of this is that they're using the 'non-existent Youth' phrasing that Ishihara, and LDP politician, used in his attempts to ban art back in the early 10s. Measures that the Japanese Communist Party at the time opposed. For many of the Otaku that were voting for them after the fact, this is a bit of a betrayal. The concern at the moment is that this might encourage opposing coalition parties (the 'we're not the LDP' side of things) to adopt similar policies.
 

Hexasheep93

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What's particularly funny about all of this is that they're using the 'non-existent Youth' phrasing that Ishihara, and LDP politician, used in his attempts to ban art back in the early 10s. Measures that the Japanese Communist Party at the time opposed. For many of the Otaku that were voting for them after the fact, this is a bit of a betrayal. The concern at the moment is that this might encourage opposing coalition parties (the 'we're not the LDP' side of things) to adopt similar policies.
The world seems to be going on a puritan bend lately I guess we can only hope that cooler heads prevail :a-disgust:
 

forestfurry

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Breaking news on japanese twitter, a lot of people are going ape over JCP's new platform policies including loli regulation and a lot more. This is fresh news, so it's still popping off. The thing about japan is you cant trust political parties to defend freedom of expression, but you can typically rely on individuals within each party to keep the party in check. The big issue here is the JCP is the first party I have seen that straight up has loli regulation within it's platform.

Here is one of the most vocal pro freedom of expression politicians commenting on it

"Mr. Communist Party, it looks like you are going to shift to two-dimensional regulation as well."


And here is the contents of the new policy



The fact they bring up the UN and the special rapporteur Maud de Boer-Buquicchio is a big concern as she was a major push back in 2008-2011 to ban loli. Fun fact, The current new Prime Minister Kishida butted heads with this individual to oppose her regulations which was interesting to learn...


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Unfortunately the irony about this is that even the non-communist political parties of Japan are so out of touch with time that they still successfully censor certain type of media like legal pornography that doesn’t hurt adults as a whole. They haven’t looked back to the issue of that because they all want advantages to stay in power and continue their corruption and attempts of full authoritarian control of Japan like they were pre-WW2.

Pornography wouldn’t be legal to be possessed, distributed or produced if its in the list of obscene media according to the 1907 Obscenity act and it is against the outdated authoritarian obscenity laws. It makes no sense that they enforce censorship of explicit sex body parts while pornography as a whole being legal. They act like it’s hurting Japan when they also hypocritically love the sex culture.The strict censorship of pornography including anime porn is a violation of freedom of expression in the Japanese constitution of the monarchy.

This issue needs to be brought up in the Japanese Diet parliament. Thus far only one politician is openly against that outdated law still in the books. He proposed the amendment of that law in late 2019 that would modify the act to legally let pornography to be viewed unblurred especially anime. Unfortunately the covid-19 pandemic has forced him to temporarily put the legislation on hold or worse scrap it completely, so pornography will remain permanently censored.

You need to know that Japan is really not as free on expression as they were portrayed to be. They were much worse in the past but in the near future their former fascist ways are possible to return. If their citizens are not going out protesting the government for their undemocratic acts, democracy would be a thing of the past.

Their politics now is awful in itself, reforms should be made to finally no longer strictly censor legal media like anime. The LDP, JCP should resign and let real true parties that would really represent freedom and their citizen. Anime has come a long way from its humble beginnings. They don’t need to be blurred because the government hates explicit sex.

Overall, to anyone that lives in Japan, please speak up to the politicians so they can listen to you and decide what to do with their outdated laws.
 
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DosonTheIrate

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Communists are all the same, so they're really easy to spot. I've talked to hundreds of commies and they have all used the exact same tactics. Very disingenuous. Not one exception. One of their most common tactics is what I have dubbed "The Statement Question" where the try to put all of their arguments in the form of a question, so they can avoid standing behind their words when pressed. Basically proxy arguing. They also often pretend to not know what you're saying, so they can get you to keep talking some more, in an effort to get you to say something with which they find fault, often engaging in semantic arguments. The key is to not give them what they want, and to use their tactics against them. If you play by their rules, you lose. Don't use their lingo or their words, like "fascist" (it won't bother them), but use their TACTICS. Only use their tactics against those acting in bad faith, otherwise you'll just piss people off.
 

Hexasheep93

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I have my hopes on ww3 happening soon. Then everybody will be too worried with finding food and hiding from nukes to care about cartoon porn :korone-smug:

Unfortunately the irony about this is that even the non-communist political parties of Japan are so out of touch with time that they still successfully censor certain type of media like legal pornography that doesn’t hurt adults as a whole. They haven’t looked back to the issue of that because they all want advantages to stay in power and continue their corruption and attempts of full authoritarian control of Japan like they were pre-WW2.

Pornography wouldn’t be legal to be possessed, distributed or produced if its in the list of obscene media according to the 1907 Obscenity act and it is against the outdated authoritarian obscenity laws. It makes no sense that they enforce censorship of explicit sex body parts while pornography as a whole being legal. They act like it’s hurting Japan when they also hypocritically love the sex culture.The strict censorship of pornography including anime porn is a violation of freedom of expression in the Japanese constitution of the monarchy.

This issue needs to be brought up in the Japanese Diet parliament. Thus far only one politician is openly against that outdated law still in the books. He proposed the amendment of that law in late 2019 that would modify the act to legally let pornography to be viewed unblurred especially anime. Unfortunately the covid-19 pandemic has forced him to temporarily put the legislation on hold or worse scrap it completely, so pornography will remain permanently censored.

You need to know that Japan is really not as free on expression as they were portrayed to be. They were much worse in the past but in the near future their former fascist ways are possible to return. If their citizens are not going out protesting the government for their undemocratic acts, democracy would be a thing of the past.

Their politics now is awful in itself, reforms should be made to finally no longer strictly censor legal media like anime. The LDP, JCP should resign and let real true parties that would really represent freedom and their citizen. Anime has come a long way from its humble beginnings. They don’t need to be blurred because the government hates explicit sex.

Overall, to anyone that lives in Japan, please speak up to the politicians so they can listen to you and decide what to do with their outdated laws.
The pros and cons of a conservative system really. On the good side there arent people trying to "improve" stuff that works just fine the way it is. On the bad side you have things that actually need fixing and arent beign fixed.
 

Narbray

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The concern is the JCP is currently in a soft coalition with the main opposition party and have promised to work towards common goals and elections are coming up. If you are aware of the recent Feminist Parliamentary drama concerning removing vtubers and that group is entirely composed of JCP/CDP/SDP members(200+ total) so they certainly have some sway.
is certainly something to consider, however I wonder if they can actually ban the use of lolis in japan or limit it or something similar.

they shouldn't be able to change it so easily. it would be a violation of the japanese constitution [article 21 I think it is].
there are also many people who work with this and make a living from it, companies among other things, I think it would be complicated, and I really hope that the Japanese will protest against any form of limiting their freedom of expression as they should in any other place.
There is no evidence that this is harmful, there is no one who can say otherwise and prove it and therefore it should not be possible to limit it, it is as simple as that.
people are simply ignorant and do not understand that communism is simply a big piece of garbage that is harmful and should not even be allowed, I was born in a communist country and I know first hand how dangerous it is to give the state all the power and apply censorship laws without the people having the possibility to question it.
it is quite frustrating not to be able to do anything while you see stupid politicians adopting stupid policies like these, I hope the Japanese will not be fooled by these anti-democratic filthy parties.
for their own good and ours
 

Ellyloop

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Few of the bigger players in this have stepped in(so many more have spoke up)

"The opposition parties were very helpful in the fight against the Child Protection Law in 2014, but times have changed, and now they are even naming "manga and anime" as "hurting the dignity of children" and treating manga as "depictions" of sexual abuse. As a manga artist, I feel very bad about this. Why do they only want to hit creative works before protecting real children?"

"Human rights do not exist in non-existent expressions such as manga and anime, and no creative works should be regulated. Human rights are global, but culture should be local; I confronted Mr. Bukicchio directly about the 2016 UN recommendation, and his points were questionable and out of line. The Japanese government does not recognize the interpretation of the treaty. The definition of child pornography is also vague, and if it includes non-existent material, freedom of expression will be at risk."

The JCP is also trying to save face, but the whole changing "social consensus" reeks of pressure groups and brainwashing and it's not working.
 
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