JesterMan
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I trust you as much as if a left-winger said the same about right-wingers
Okay what do you think about Smugumin telling you to give a view to an anti-lolicon?
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If you're here for vtubers, I highly recommend you go to The Virtual Asylum instead.
They'll love you there
They're pro-abortion there in vshojo though, but sure, it's not like this dumb fuck could debate anyway.Honestly, I'm all for keeping appearances when it comes to vtubing because that's kind of the point.
I don't want them to pertain to certain groups just to please us though.
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TomboyEnjoyer
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From what I remember Turkey Tom doesn't like lolis but I have yet to see him sperg out too hard about lolis so he's overall fine in my book, just won't ever give him money.
haux
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No pro life give 2 shits about any of these babies who were aborted. The whole pro life agenda is just a bunch of emotional crap based on religious and conservative bias to have more citizens. Then they say "omg but we need accountability" yeah and make a person carry a whole human being and maybe not give two shits about this human being. I have friend that her mom neglected her her entire life. Her whole family is unstable, her father is broken and a fucking N4ZI and her mom was a whore that her father banged. The only person who cares about about her well being is her aunt who pays even for her house. She has to lock the fucking door because she doesn't trust her mother and her mother used to steal all her clothes. (panties, bikinis and bras). "But give them to adoption" ah, come on. No government would let that easy to parents abandon children, in my town there was a woman who wanted to give her child to adoption and she was arrested because she was economically stable.
But for real, why bring up political topics in a lolicon forum?
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Mr. Suave
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Or get a vasectomy. I hear there pretty cheep.
Mr. Suave
varishangout.com
I thought this was an "internet bullshit" forum.
haux
varishangout.com
(I know this will sound cruel and maybe I will get hated but let's go) Even if abortion was murder, the thing is: It will have little to no impact in anything except triggering some moralistic people. I am saying that because I even saw people saying that they didn't care about women literally dying because of illegal abortions because "they have no empathy with someone who kill innocent people." Even tho these "innocent people" don't even breath the same air as us. Climate change, economy, politics and the family will still be the same with these fetuses being born or not. The only thing that I could imagine abortion having a negative impact is the low born rate.
Wow you know whats funny the day after i was born was the day this thread was even made lol.
OT
Honestly religion and politics are both total cringe and whether or not someone wants to keep the baby thats really not my buisness just as long as its not for clout chasing or if its some serious medical or violence related shit like incest or rape then ye i can get that.
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Honestly religion and politics are both total cringe and whether or not someone wants to keep the baby thats really not my buisness just as long as its not for clout chasing or if its some serious medical or violence related shit like incest or rape then ye i can get that.
Schizophrenic Rock Fan
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I think Lithuania should invade Estonia
Schizophrenic Rock Fan
varishangout.com
Its really funny to go onto tiktok and search "things you shouldnt watch if you're Christian" people should enjoy things without worrying if it makes fun of god
I rather not get mental illness from a place like tiktok.
skimmed through, watched a carlin skit, my stance:
who the fuck cares; to abort or not abort, feel free to end your bloodline here or an annoying little shit that costs a million to raise
i have many thoughts about this, but that's the basic summary, but being the schizo on the forum, i'll type up an essay for optional viewing
Also, memes
who the fuck cares; to abort or not abort, feel free to end your bloodline here or an annoying little shit that costs a million to raise
i have many thoughts about this, but that's the basic summary, but being the schizo on the forum, i'll type up an essay for optional viewing
There's a lot of bullshit about religioncucks and anti-natalists, government needing manpower and using propaganda for pro-life, eugenicists, racial purity -- there's an abundance of movements, ideologies, beliefs, and emotions behind this shit for honestly no good reason.
The reason being that honestly, they all presume a LOT about YOUR case -- why the fuck does this matter to YOU?
That isn't to say they know nothing, but the thing that always irked me is that they presumed to know everything about your specific case, speak for not only how you should feel, but for an imaginary lifeform that likely has yet to exist, for their life into their future.
With pro-life, to claim that a fetus MUST be birthed, because it MAY experience the joys of life, that it MIGHT have so much to give back (read: they want your kid to do something for them, and they want you to make your kid for them, probably fuck them or use as trafficked slaves if anything) to the world, that you WOULD take away its chance at a happy life.
Unfortunately for them, no one born on this planet is guaranteed or owed happiness, fulfillment, satisfaction, or joy in life. I speak from personal experience, and I believe others would attest for their own experiences.
Like Carlin in his skit said, you're basically on your own; no one else is going to take care of your kid, nor for you once you're born aside from your parents, and if your parents are shit, good fucking luck. More often than not, you and whatever baby you're having is only worth more to others when you are/the baby is alive, not worth more to yourself, such as being a soldier to die in wars made by others more powerful, but sometimes it's as little as flipping burgers in an unfulfilling life, or maybe being a genius inventor whose inventions gets stolen by others or denied further development because it's so good it'd fuck with profits of comparatively mundane goods of today.
There's also the argument of "if you were aborted, you wouldn't have this life!" but in my case, it wouldn't work, because I rather would have "died" in the womb and reject this "gift" of life, because it's a miserable one. This argument tends to work on more happier people, but that's likely due to the fact their family and surrounding environment were healthy and great, and the idea of not letting someone else enjoy living in such a beautiful world (that's very local to their experience) would utterly baffle them. They can't conceive of a life without what they aren't even aware they should be grateful for, and honestly should shut up, ESPECIALLY if they aren't gonna give it and expect it all to just work out without putting in the elbow grease. And then they're surprised their kid thinks they should've died at birth.
There's people in this world who raise children expecting them to be a retirement ticket, to be servants that take care of them once they're old, but never preparing them for their own lives and futures. I suppose pro-life would support such a thing, though whether you view that as a disingenuous statement or not doesn't matter to me, because they sure aren't going to step in and help if the situation is placed right in front of them, no matter how volatile -- or I suppose more gently put, vivid and passionate -- emotions they experience.
The real conflict against this is what does it even mean to live, to have life, and anyone who's sane and isn't a faggot will already know that it isn't all joys, that not everyone's going to live that happy life, that it's difficult to raise a child -- especially if you end up discovering how weird, or deformed (aspergers/autism, down syndrome, brain developmental issues that lead to schizophrenia, sociopathy/psychopathy, etc) they become, regardless due to birth or surrounding environmental influence, despite "doing everything right" yet cursed with a "spawn from hell" -- and not what the baby can give to the world, but what can the world give to the baby? Not to say the world owes it all to the newborn, but personally I think it's common sense that a "gift" with an expectation for something in return isn't a real gift.
And in this age of mental illness, retardation, destruction of family bonds, destruction of a cohesive society and friendly bonds with those around you for menial shit, despair and gloom covering the world like a fog, of course, the appeal of abortion is there, but also it may be the reason for why proponents of life argue harder -- to not give into it. That, however, doesn't change the fact they're basically pushing their fight and problems onto others, or at least that's how absolutely everyone on that side argues, so fuck on right off.
In short, advocate for life all you want, actions speak louder than words, and every single person I've met who was pro-life wasn't willing to actually make a life worth living, and are generally people who shouldn't have kids at all costs.
But that is half of the story -- anti-natalists and pro-abortion are another case to cover which needs to be talked about. Aside from all the issues presented above which advocate for abortion, which I'm sure that anyone with a brain can come up with various scenarios, such as a drug addicted slut of a mom and a deadbeat dad, there is the fact that even the initial conditions, despite whatever horrible past (or pleasant one to cover all bases, I suppose despite the fact the answer would be likely "no" to abortion in this event), life can still be worth having lived.
Where pro-life imply your child will have a wonderful life, 100%, and taking it away is akin to "murder," abortionfags imply your child is gonna hate all this shit, and taking it away is mercy.
This is why most advocates of abortion are likely mentally ill -- they likely live a shit life, unfulfilling life, worthless life, whatever you may call it -- these people are people who can't see the beauty in life and what joys and value it brings.
In the same vein, being asked "if you were aborted, you wouldn't have this shitty, awful life!" but in my case, that wouldn't work because jerking off, imagining I'm breeding a harem of lolis is the greatest gift god has given mankind. I suppose that's actually an argument against life, considering how pathetic it is, but I imagine an answer of "burgers are tasty" and "bunnies are cute to watch" and other sentimental "little things" really wouldn't work on people who've forgotten, can no longer acknowledge, or can no longer experience (regardless of reason) the joys I bring up, so a joke answer is the only thing I'd care to give. After all, "jokes are funny and I find joy in them," regardless if others may find them as, if at all, funny.
Most abortion statements honestly come from either people saying you don't deserve to live -- you didn't give anything back to the world or to that person specifically that was of value to them, likely you killed them too many times in that one round in that one FPS game you played or pissed off a keyboard warrior on tumblr (which expanded to twitter, youtube, tiktok, and newgrounds) -- or that raising a child in certain conditions (which may or may not be a condition you're in) would be bad -- not enough money to raise one healthily or giving them enough to sustain a happy better future for them --, or that you're bringing someone into this world just to suffer -- all life only exists to suffer, to die, in this pointless cycle of life, as what has a bunny done to live a life in a world full of predators or a starving child done to be denied food in a world bountiful with them? Or so they'd ask.
A child born from rape is of course, one of the possibilities which is commonly brought up by hoes who just want to fuck, and honestly, they'd be bad parents, which of course, must further prove their point, because they'd probably end up abusing or neglecting their child themselves and shouldn't be allowed to give birth. Despite this, the argument that follows still holds.
It isn't necessarily false to believe that a child can find happiness in their lives despite anything the world throws at them, and that's to the extreme as well. Even if you're a shitty good-for-nothing parent, even if their environment is equally as fucked with abusive teachers, manipulative "friends," strangers are all a very likely threat to their life, or hell, they're born with so many defects, or their entire life even up to retirement age (I suppose that's now 70-80 in present time now), literally imagine any horseshit scenario of a life you can imagine, and now, how hard would it be to imagine it to turn all around?
A man can find what he was born for at the very last second of his life, or even in face of all the trials and tribulations a piece of shit god would find funny to throw at a toddler a man can find his meaning in life and fulfillment pursuing it. Even if the entire past is nothing but suffering, so long as there's a meaningful present, a meaningful future, something that genuinely has worth, none of the suffering in this world could ever make life not have been worth it. Hence why many pro-abortion assholes advocate for it: they haven't found theirs yet, but they themselves and pro-life niggers aren't going to help them find it, through guidance or setting up circumstances such that they can find it themselves without worrying about menial shit like bills each month.
It is in fact a shame that there could've been a person who could've fought with all their might and found a happy life, had they been given a chance, despite the odds and situations, but was aborted, and was unable to even allowed to fight, even if unfair and unjust of a war and its battles, for the happiness life can bring to the living, that only those alive can experience, that it was denied because someone else made that call for them. By all means, I'm rather aware of the fact I doubt the ability of every human alive to be able to find their own happiness and fulfillment in such situations, especially the fetusfucking pro-lifers, but nevertheless, that is a tragic tale by which someone was, or many were, denied an opportunity in the end, whether it be by the hands of ones own parents -- mom and/or dad through abortion or infanticide -- or by the hands of others, even if it were an accidentally or unwanted fertilization.
In short, no amount of suffering will make a life which is worth living not worth it, but I can assure you neither abortionfags nor fetusfuckers will aid you in the endeavor of finding its worth for you or your offspring.
At the end of the day, it's just another decision for YOU to make.
Is it a good one, a bad one, one that'll feel good or bad, one that changes or not the future by its happening or not, that's for you to find out as a surprise, wonderful or horrible.
Make the best decision or don't give a fuck and flip a coin, it's your life. I can't stop you from giving a kid a happy life by being a good person surrounded by good people, or the fact you'll botch up their development by being a shit parent or their environment's shit, or from outright just abusing them.
I can argue that it's worthwhile and you should have a baby, I can argue it'll be a shit experience for both you and the baby, but either fucking way, you should be able to figure it out yourself, and the opinions of some faggots who think a bearded man in the sky loves their intolerable personalities or godless freaks who just want to indulge in sex and other earthly pleasures without making anything of themselves for neither others or themselves shouldn't be that impactful to you.
And at the end of the day, it's up to you to decide whether or not your own life is worth living, even after all the unending suffering life brings with nothing to show for it, or even after a wonderful life that suddenly went bad, or an easily answered with life full of practically nothing but joys and fulfillment in spite of the struggles.
It's your child, and honestly you're responsible for their life. And your very first decision to every single one of your descendents is how you need to protect them from existence, and I suppose both not protecting them at all in any way from conception to adulthood or denying them the very experience of existence are choices that exist, as worst-case as these are.
There's also a big fight between "the good of humanity's survival by having a kid" or "the great evil of existence" and all that shit, but again, all that honestly comes down to the fact of the individuals advocating for either's life experiences and being raging fags unable to comprehend with their disposable lives that not everyone's the same. The argument of the fetus being alive or not doesn't change the fundamental arguments this eventually goes toward unless someone's a retarded faggot.
The reason being that honestly, they all presume a LOT about YOUR case -- why the fuck does this matter to YOU?
That isn't to say they know nothing, but the thing that always irked me is that they presumed to know everything about your specific case, speak for not only how you should feel, but for an imaginary lifeform that likely has yet to exist, for their life into their future.
With pro-life, to claim that a fetus MUST be birthed, because it MAY experience the joys of life, that it MIGHT have so much to give back (read: they want your kid to do something for them, and they want you to make your kid for them, probably fuck them or use as trafficked slaves if anything) to the world, that you WOULD take away its chance at a happy life.
Unfortunately for them, no one born on this planet is guaranteed or owed happiness, fulfillment, satisfaction, or joy in life. I speak from personal experience, and I believe others would attest for their own experiences.
Like Carlin in his skit said, you're basically on your own; no one else is going to take care of your kid, nor for you once you're born aside from your parents, and if your parents are shit, good fucking luck. More often than not, you and whatever baby you're having is only worth more to others when you are/the baby is alive, not worth more to yourself, such as being a soldier to die in wars made by others more powerful, but sometimes it's as little as flipping burgers in an unfulfilling life, or maybe being a genius inventor whose inventions gets stolen by others or denied further development because it's so good it'd fuck with profits of comparatively mundane goods of today.
There's also the argument of "if you were aborted, you wouldn't have this life!" but in my case, it wouldn't work, because I rather would have "died" in the womb and reject this "gift" of life, because it's a miserable one. This argument tends to work on more happier people, but that's likely due to the fact their family and surrounding environment were healthy and great, and the idea of not letting someone else enjoy living in such a beautiful world (that's very local to their experience) would utterly baffle them. They can't conceive of a life without what they aren't even aware they should be grateful for, and honestly should shut up, ESPECIALLY if they aren't gonna give it and expect it all to just work out without putting in the elbow grease. And then they're surprised their kid thinks they should've died at birth.
There's people in this world who raise children expecting them to be a retirement ticket, to be servants that take care of them once they're old, but never preparing them for their own lives and futures. I suppose pro-life would support such a thing, though whether you view that as a disingenuous statement or not doesn't matter to me, because they sure aren't going to step in and help if the situation is placed right in front of them, no matter how volatile -- or I suppose more gently put, vivid and passionate -- emotions they experience.
The real conflict against this is what does it even mean to live, to have life, and anyone who's sane and isn't a faggot will already know that it isn't all joys, that not everyone's going to live that happy life, that it's difficult to raise a child -- especially if you end up discovering how weird, or deformed (aspergers/autism, down syndrome, brain developmental issues that lead to schizophrenia, sociopathy/psychopathy, etc) they become, regardless due to birth or surrounding environmental influence, despite "doing everything right" yet cursed with a "spawn from hell" -- and not what the baby can give to the world, but what can the world give to the baby? Not to say the world owes it all to the newborn, but personally I think it's common sense that a "gift" with an expectation for something in return isn't a real gift.
And in this age of mental illness, retardation, destruction of family bonds, destruction of a cohesive society and friendly bonds with those around you for menial shit, despair and gloom covering the world like a fog, of course, the appeal of abortion is there, but also it may be the reason for why proponents of life argue harder -- to not give into it. That, however, doesn't change the fact they're basically pushing their fight and problems onto others, or at least that's how absolutely everyone on that side argues, so fuck on right off.
In short, advocate for life all you want, actions speak louder than words, and every single person I've met who was pro-life wasn't willing to actually make a life worth living, and are generally people who shouldn't have kids at all costs.
But that is half of the story -- anti-natalists and pro-abortion are another case to cover which needs to be talked about. Aside from all the issues presented above which advocate for abortion, which I'm sure that anyone with a brain can come up with various scenarios, such as a drug addicted slut of a mom and a deadbeat dad, there is the fact that even the initial conditions, despite whatever horrible past (or pleasant one to cover all bases, I suppose despite the fact the answer would be likely "no" to abortion in this event), life can still be worth having lived.
Where pro-life imply your child will have a wonderful life, 100%, and taking it away is akin to "murder," abortionfags imply your child is gonna hate all this shit, and taking it away is mercy.
This is why most advocates of abortion are likely mentally ill -- they likely live a shit life, unfulfilling life, worthless life, whatever you may call it -- these people are people who can't see the beauty in life and what joys and value it brings.
In the same vein, being asked "if you were aborted, you wouldn't have this shitty, awful life!" but in my case, that wouldn't work because jerking off, imagining I'm breeding a harem of lolis is the greatest gift god has given mankind. I suppose that's actually an argument against life, considering how pathetic it is, but I imagine an answer of "burgers are tasty" and "bunnies are cute to watch" and other sentimental "little things" really wouldn't work on people who've forgotten, can no longer acknowledge, or can no longer experience (regardless of reason) the joys I bring up, so a joke answer is the only thing I'd care to give. After all, "jokes are funny and I find joy in them," regardless if others may find them as, if at all, funny.
Most abortion statements honestly come from either people saying you don't deserve to live -- you didn't give anything back to the world or to that person specifically that was of value to them, likely you killed them too many times in that one round in that one FPS game you played or pissed off a keyboard warrior on tumblr (which expanded to twitter, youtube, tiktok, and newgrounds) -- or that raising a child in certain conditions (which may or may not be a condition you're in) would be bad -- not enough money to raise one healthily or giving them enough to sustain a happy better future for them --, or that you're bringing someone into this world just to suffer -- all life only exists to suffer, to die, in this pointless cycle of life, as what has a bunny done to live a life in a world full of predators or a starving child done to be denied food in a world bountiful with them? Or so they'd ask.
A child born from rape is of course, one of the possibilities which is commonly brought up by hoes who just want to fuck, and honestly, they'd be bad parents, which of course, must further prove their point, because they'd probably end up abusing or neglecting their child themselves and shouldn't be allowed to give birth. Despite this, the argument that follows still holds.
It isn't necessarily false to believe that a child can find happiness in their lives despite anything the world throws at them, and that's to the extreme as well. Even if you're a shitty good-for-nothing parent, even if their environment is equally as fucked with abusive teachers, manipulative "friends," strangers are all a very likely threat to their life, or hell, they're born with so many defects, or their entire life even up to retirement age (I suppose that's now 70-80 in present time now), literally imagine any horseshit scenario of a life you can imagine, and now, how hard would it be to imagine it to turn all around?
A man can find what he was born for at the very last second of his life, or even in face of all the trials and tribulations a piece of shit god would find funny to throw at a toddler a man can find his meaning in life and fulfillment pursuing it. Even if the entire past is nothing but suffering, so long as there's a meaningful present, a meaningful future, something that genuinely has worth, none of the suffering in this world could ever make life not have been worth it. Hence why many pro-abortion assholes advocate for it: they haven't found theirs yet, but they themselves and pro-life niggers aren't going to help them find it, through guidance or setting up circumstances such that they can find it themselves without worrying about menial shit like bills each month.
It is in fact a shame that there could've been a person who could've fought with all their might and found a happy life, had they been given a chance, despite the odds and situations, but was aborted, and was unable to even allowed to fight, even if unfair and unjust of a war and its battles, for the happiness life can bring to the living, that only those alive can experience, that it was denied because someone else made that call for them. By all means, I'm rather aware of the fact I doubt the ability of every human alive to be able to find their own happiness and fulfillment in such situations, especially the fetusfucking pro-lifers, but nevertheless, that is a tragic tale by which someone was, or many were, denied an opportunity in the end, whether it be by the hands of ones own parents -- mom and/or dad through abortion or infanticide -- or by the hands of others, even if it were an accidentally or unwanted fertilization.
In short, no amount of suffering will make a life which is worth living not worth it, but I can assure you neither abortionfags nor fetusfuckers will aid you in the endeavor of finding its worth for you or your offspring.
At the end of the day, it's just another decision for YOU to make.
Is it a good one, a bad one, one that'll feel good or bad, one that changes or not the future by its happening or not, that's for you to find out as a surprise, wonderful or horrible.
Make the best decision or don't give a fuck and flip a coin, it's your life. I can't stop you from giving a kid a happy life by being a good person surrounded by good people, or the fact you'll botch up their development by being a shit parent or their environment's shit, or from outright just abusing them.
I can argue that it's worthwhile and you should have a baby, I can argue it'll be a shit experience for both you and the baby, but either fucking way, you should be able to figure it out yourself, and the opinions of some faggots who think a bearded man in the sky loves their intolerable personalities or godless freaks who just want to indulge in sex and other earthly pleasures without making anything of themselves for neither others or themselves shouldn't be that impactful to you.
And at the end of the day, it's up to you to decide whether or not your own life is worth living, even after all the unending suffering life brings with nothing to show for it, or even after a wonderful life that suddenly went bad, or an easily answered with life full of practically nothing but joys and fulfillment in spite of the struggles.
It's your child, and honestly you're responsible for their life. And your very first decision to every single one of your descendents is how you need to protect them from existence, and I suppose both not protecting them at all in any way from conception to adulthood or denying them the very experience of existence are choices that exist, as worst-case as these are.
There's also a big fight between "the good of humanity's survival by having a kid" or "the great evil of existence" and all that shit, but again, all that honestly comes down to the fact of the individuals advocating for either's life experiences and being raging fags unable to comprehend with their disposable lives that not everyone's the same. The argument of the fetus being alive or not doesn't change the fundamental arguments this eventually goes toward unless someone's a retarded faggot.
Also, memes