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Drama VShojo/Ex-VShojo/Mythic rrats

Misan

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The problem with Silvervale can be simplified around the words parasocial and nice girl.

Her 'husbando' 1000$ / playing rent-a-girlfriend gig could be the best textbook story (outside of stalking and worse) on how messy and fucked-up those parasocial relationships can be. Consider the document found by Blackjack and now multiply it by 5 or 10 the number of guys going through their own seperate drama with it.

On the other end, I heard from some of her mods she went through it because enough of her audience convinced her it would be 'fun' to do (and I'm sure she wasn't saying no to the money either - until the issues made the gain not worth it). And with her saying she doesn't leave her home, her chatting part on stream makes her seems barely functionnal or knowledgeable, she is also a textbook reference of a streamer whom her only 'friends' are her audience and people she collab with on stream or follows on other social platforms. As for friends with the others, she always call Vei 'my Queen' and always showers her with compliments, while both have less game collabs together than what Silver did with Mouse or anyone else in V-Shojo. From Silver herself, she had to do the Vei singing portion on their Zombie song because Vei didn't want to sing. This is very odd to give such a pass on someone who did less for you (and make you work to cover their own ass) than others did. I think it is fair to say she identify 'friends' those who give to her any kind of validation or affection, because she have nothing else going for her socially.

My own take on why Silver still get away (for now) with some things is that she may genuinely be a 'nice girl'. Just someone who tries very hard to please everyone, while making nobody happy at the same time because she is such a gullible, spineless pushover who seems bordeline an addict for validation and affection from anyone who bothers to (or want to take advantage of her). Because of that, she probably get excused more in the community due to a form of empathy since a lot of the audience and others Vtubers were most likely labelled or have been that 'nice' once or still are. However, while she doesn't make drama, dirt or rrats intentionally per say or isn't just an actual bitch, she is very much a shit magnet because she can't learn from her past mistakes, repeat them over and over, which makes it impossible to keep her own act straight and consistant. This is what will make her career go stalled for good one day before rolling down to nothing.

So, as Boob said, Silver is nothing more than just a time bomb and pity the one ending up as collateral damage when that happens just because they will be at the wrong place, wrong time.
 
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BoobaciousDood

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It's even sadder when you look at her old pre-Vjosho youtube playthroughs. Back then she didn't try to be overly horny or do the bad bitch act, she was just an airhead who got easily impressed at everything she saw in any game she played, and it was that simplicity what made her so endearing to watch and follow. Now she's just a Vei simp who tries to act like a cool thoth just to farm validation from people who probably think of her as little more than a used condom.

In a way she's basically the Sneako of the Vtubing community.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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It's even sadder when you look at her old pre-Vjosho youtube playthroughs. Back then she didn't try to be overly horny or do the bad bitch act, she was just an airhead who got easily impressed at everything she saw in any game she played, and it was that simplicity what made her so endearing to watch and follow. Now she's just a Vei simp who tries to act like a cool thoth just to farm validation from people who probably think of her as little more than a used condom.

In a way she's basically the Sneako of the Vtubing community.
I never seen her pre VSJ to be fair, but she does sound way more endearing the way you described her.
 

404

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I never seen her pre VSJ to be fair, but she does sound way more endearing the way you described her.
Endearing like a retarded puppy, like you want to hit it but you'll feel bad.

In other not really news Henya currently has over 3000 more viewers then nyanners 3.8k - 7.2k and this makes me very happy
 

blackjack

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Silver simply has a inferiority kind of complex, 2020 saw a clip that she lashed out at one of her chatters asking for a mouse collaboration and she stated OK I will just drop everything I was planning to do for the collab in a pissed off mood and then jokingly tried to brush it off to continue with her stream. She started randomly numberfagging on her own stream when mouse got more viewers and that last stream about mouse not talking to her. Than someone mentioned Snuffy on her stream and it became a banned word. Either she has a problem of mouse having a bigger cock than her in viewers or snuffy having a bigger cock than her in terms of patreons, but that sort of wouldnt make sense because she would lash out at nyanners and vei who had more viewers than her in the past and even present unless 1. the random vtuber chatters made her immediately hate the vtubers(wasnt the 1st time she gets sidetracked by chatters) 2. she sees vei and nyanners as part fellow polak sisters along with Hime and maybe Mel. Polish pussy must be amazing if Asmon, Soda, Aethel and Gigguk manage to deal with their menhara female partners. Hope they do know services exist in eastern europe and English is a pretty popular language.
 

BoobaciousDood

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Silver simply has a inferiority kind of complex, 2020 saw a clip that she lashed out at one of her chatters asking for a mouse collaboration and she stated OK I will just drop everything I was planning to do for the collab in a pissed off mood and then jokingly tried to brush it off to continue with her stream. She started randomly numberfagging on her own stream when mouse got more viewers and that last stream about mouse not talking to her. Than someone mentioned Snuffy on her stream and it became a banned word. Either she has a problem of mouse having a bigger cock than her in viewers or snuffy having a bigger cock than her in terms of patreons, but that sort of wouldnt make sense because she would lash out at nyanners and vei who had more viewers than her in the past and even present unless 1. the random vtuber chatters made her immediately hate the vtubers(wasnt the 1st time she gets sidetracked by chatters) 2. she sees vei and nyanners as part fellow polak sisters along with Hime and maybe Mel. Polish pussy must be amazing if Asmon, Soda, Aethel and Gigguk manage to deal with their menhara female partners. Hope they do know services exist in eastern europe and English is a pretty popular language.
Silver always did have a rule about never mentioning other streamers in chat unless she spoke about them first so that's definitely a possibility. Still, my best guess as to why she never lashed out at Vei and Nyanners is because she's a Vei simp and because pink cat does have a way of pulling the strings so Silver probably didn't lash out at her out of fear she would get singled out from the group (which did happen anyway). As for Mouse and Snuffy there's the chance some shit took place behind cameras between her and those two, hence her whole "we haven't talked in over half a year" statement. Consider that there also seems to be some presumed bad blood between Silver and Fillian it could simply boil down to Silver being utterly insufferable to be around and those three in particular not being willing to deal with her shit.
 

Bingus405

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Silver simply has a inferiority kind of complex, 2020 saw a clip that she lashed out at one of her chatters asking for a mouse collaboration and she stated OK I will just drop everything I was planning to do for the collab in a pissed off mood and then jokingly tried to brush it off to continue with her stream. She started randomly numberfagging on her own stream when mouse got more viewers and that last stream about mouse not talking to her. Than someone mentioned Snuffy on her stream and it became a banned word. Either she has a problem of mouse having a bigger cock than her in viewers or snuffy having a bigger cock than her in terms of patreons, but that sort of wouldnt make sense because she would lash out at nyanners and vei who had more viewers than her in the past and even present unless 1. the random vtuber chatters made her immediately hate the vtubers(wasnt the 1st time she gets sidetracked by chatters) 2. she sees vei and nyanners as part fellow polak sisters along with Hime and maybe Mel. Polish pussy must be amazing if Asmon, Soda, Aethel and Gigguk manage to deal with their menhara female partners. Hope they do know services exist in eastern europe and English is a pretty popular language.
There's no way Silver and Nyanners are Poles. I know Vei is but Vei's a fake-Pole who's family has been in England for too long for it to really matter.
 

blackjack

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There's no way Silver and Nyanners are Poles. I know Vei is but Vei's a fake-Pole who's family has been in England for too long for it to really matter.
Well Nyanners is technically from what I heard Russian/Polish. I think even her vocaroo threads here shows her saying pro-communist shit, heard she had the soviet anthem as her myspace background song before(explains why she gets along with Aethel for loving Hasan as his role model) and sang a random Russian Christmas song on youtube. Her appearance along with Aethel would pretty much pass as eastern european. To be honest I would throw slovaks, czechs, russians and ukrainians as on the same shit category with the poles, south slavs being questionable. Aethel was watching a random polish cooking stream and talked about nyanners should embrace her heritage stating he knows some of the potato related food living next to a Ukrainian store. Silver of course is questionable despite saying she is polish in that collab.
 

BoobaciousDood

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Silver of course is questionable despite saying she is polish in that collab.
My biggest inclination is on Silver being american or maybe Canadian. I've watched her stream both with her mother and brother and neither one stuck out as having an european accent to their way of talking (Then again I'm not that good at picking subtle things like those so It's more of a guess than a fact). Although If those pics I've seen of her having blonde hair are her legit natural color then I'd probably take a shot in the dark and guess she might be german or even Norwegian but I have no evidence to back it up.
 

blackjack

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My biggest inclination is on Silver being american or maybe Canadian. I've watched her stream both with her mother and brother and neither one stuck out as having an european accent to their way of talking (Then again I'm not that good at picking subtle things like those so It's more of a guess than a fact). Although If those pics I've seen of her having blonde hair are her legit natural color then I'd probably take a shot in the dark and guess she might be german or even Norwegian but I have no evidence to back it up.
another one, which could make sense in regards to living in the Midwest.

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Also it seems there was a rift between ironmouse and nyanners if ironmouse was not in Nyanners VR birthday party.
 

Misan

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another one, which could make sense in regards to living in the Midwest.

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Also it seems there was a rift between ironmouse and nyanners if ironmouse was not in Nyanners VR birthday party.
Was there a reconciliation between Ironmouse and Silvervale ?

If not, Nyanners may had to decide whom could join on her party between both, so there wasn't any drama.

However, Ironmouse didn't gave any response back/wishes on Nyanners birthday anywhere (though Nyanners did it in Jan), so maybe the departure from VShojo did left a bigger rift among the girls than what Silver spoke out about.
 

BoobaciousDood

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Was there a reconciliation between Ironmouse and Silvervale ?

If not, Nyanners may had to decide whom could join on her party between both, so there wasn't any drama.

However, Ironmouse didn't gave any response back/wishes on Nyanners birthday anywhere (though Nyanners did it in Jan), so maybe the departure from VShojo did left a bigger rift among the girls than what Silver spoke out about.
I doubt they were even that close to begin with. Obviously Silver was the most vocal about it but I could definitely see the girls having way nastier beef with each other behind the scenes.
 

blackjack

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I think this might also be a publicity stunt to pretend they don't get along to only get along way later in a collab since I almost forgot the Vshojo manager did in fact do a real life collab with nyanners and aethel. No idea what this pretend drama accomplishes but I am starting to notice in the offkai event phase connect is getting pretty big with Vshojo and Nijisanji in that event based on some pictures I saw on 4chan.

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phase connect threads normally have like 500-600 replies on 4chan. As long as there is growth there is always hope. If what your currently doing is not good enough despite getting shilled by OTK and other big Vtubers and twitch names, etc, than that is like a life re-evaluation of WTF am I doing wrong with my approaches for appealing to audiences with good content.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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I wonder what happens now that Twitch is under fire. As far as I know VSJ only has really any influence on Twitch and I'm sure Kick doesn't give two fucks seeing as they are backed by crypto gambling.
Now that actual competition is there I could see twitch becoming like a platform where only approved creators can stream. The other option would be to either back track the last couple of years or just outright shutdown. I also feel like VSJs success is tied into how well Twitch does and how much manipulation is going on.
 

Lost Branch

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Considering the changes Twitch is attempting make to payouts without any warning and now xQc just left for $100m, I don't think Twitch is doing too well. Streamers are finding things like this now:
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This one claimed all she did was take a week off after streaming for a year and a half.

If things keep going like this, we could definitely see a bunch leaving Twitch. If VS is dependent on Twitch for advertisement, which I believe they are, we could see the remaining members needing to go independent or splitting the company up.
 

Misan

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Interesting times ahead.
While Twitch may not go down yet, a lot of streamers and talent stream companies dependant on it or on its previous template will need to adapt themselves. With the lack of creativity for some (or even any sense of short-term planning) some will surely end up in the dust because of their flaw at making proper content creation or just basic management.
As for VS, I think most of them would be able to go back independent again, while some may end up not being so lucky and will have to move on from their Vtubing career.
 

BoobaciousDood

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I might be talking out of my ass here (wouldn't be the first nor the last time) but there's definitely something off about the way Twitch is trying to push for all of these new terms. No matter how delirious the staff is they still should be aware enough to realize how bad of a decision this is and even if they were too far gone you'd think at least Amazon would step in and slap some sense into them. Now this is just me putting on the tin foil hat but I feel there has to be some dealings taking place behind closed gates between Amazon and Google or even Amazon and Kick. Considering Google owns Youtube already they'd probably have to deal with way too much shit if they took Twitch under their mantle so instead they're paying Amazong to make Twitch slowly bleed itself out. Another alternative would be that Twitch itself is just costing Lex Luthor way more money than it's worth so he pretty much greenlith all of these changes to make the platform die out as quick as possible.
 

blackjack

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there are some interesting changes going on in social media platforms.

-The channel I follow Sprinter99880 got his twitter account finally reinstated after creating so many different accounts to keep me updated on the war and geopolitics.
-reddit started purging their moderators.
-XQC's deal with Kick might cause Twitch moderation to straighten their act out to sort of stop policing streamers to a high degree too much unless they might competitevely get fucked down the line.

I wish 4chan is next pulling a purge on janitors(not that it bothers me since I can change IPs and wipe session cookies) but atleast this place is gradually growing as a free speech Vtuber discussion kind of platform. No idea if mythic or Vshojo would jump onto Kick because I definitely see Gunrun as a twitch loyalist among others.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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I might be talking out of my ass here (wouldn't be the first nor the last time) but there's definitely something off about the way Twitch is trying to push for all of these new terms. No matter how delirious the staff is they still should be aware enough to realize how bad of a decision this is and even if they were too far gone you'd think at least Amazon would step in and slap some sense into them. Now this is just me putting on the tin foil hat but I feel there has to be some dealings taking place behind closed gates between Amazon and Google or even Amazon and Kick. Considering Google owns Youtube already they'd probably have to deal with way too much shit if they took Twitch under their mantle so instead they're paying Amazong to make Twitch slowly bleed itself out. Another alternative would be that Twitch itself is just costing Lex Luthor way more money than it's worth so he pretty much greenlith all of these changes to make the platform die out as quick as possible.
One of the things about this is, that Kick is basically a source clone of Twitch (from leaked source code) and thus is using AWS. So Kick is using and paying for AWS which means 'No loss for Amazon'. So I doubt Kick would be dealing with Twitch and google would be far more likely to take down TikTok, since shorts are "profitable" and easy on bandwidth.

Platforms like Twitch are quite costly to run and Twitch has backed themselves into a corner, so I'm not surprised that they try to throw shit at the wall until something sticks. Just look at the methods they could've used:
- Donations where they take a cut: They never went for it until they introduced bits which means 3rd parties are more established.
- OnStream branding. Work with affiliates to add little banners and such every so often: Now they want to outright forbid this instead of tapping into it.
- "Selling" bandwidth to Streamers / Orgs: Too late here as well, they will only get shit on for taking features away. If some idiot wants to stream in 4k60 charge them!
- Lean heavy into codecs like VP9/AV1: Less about making money and more about saving money. Sure some dickhead can still send them a H264 or RAW even stream, but the millions of watchers wouldn't consume as much bandwidth.

XQC's deal with Kick might cause Twitch moderation to straighten their act out to sort of stop policing streamers to a high degree too much unless they might competitevely get fucked down the line.
Honestly these alt deals often don't lead to anything, since consumers are quite stubborn when it comes to switching platforms. It's just like Ninja with mixer and PewDiePie with d-live before them. Once the well is dried up it's back to the platform with the most viewers.

I wish 4chan is next pulling a purge on janitors
Honestly despite everyone shitting on how "bad" 4chan is, these days it's not much different to Reddit when it comes to the user base. And I don't see that changing since every time some big YouTuber makes a video about a 4chan event, it feels like 4chan gets a spike of edgy teens / newfags posting.
 
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