Eccentric Individual Wroggles @WrogglesRevenge|@burnbern8|Desu (?)|ApocryphalKnight|etc.: The Paedofinder General of Twitter

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Someone on discord sent me this link, and I thought it would be funny to respond to the 'on the off chance that you read this.' It's funny if someone speaks to the void on the off-chance that that person reads it, and they do and respond to it. I genuinely never knew of this website before someone linked it to me.
Alright. Well funny how that works.
 

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As was mentioned earlier in the thread, Wroggles recently appeared on Bad At The Internet (or B.A.T.I.) using his pseudonym Burnbern8 along with some faggot named GrubbaMacho. I actually went through the effort of both watching it and taking notes. They're kind of a mess given how I went through an entire six pack in the hour I spent watching it, but I'll give deciphering this the old college try.

First of all, these are the three most painful voices to ever have in your ears for a podcast. Brennan can't help his natural speaking voice, I'll give him that much slack, but his auto quality is spotty in a way that I think has to do with stream quality rather than a bad condenser mic. Wroggles uses this legitimately awful voice filter (that fucks up at least once) that both distorts, fucks up the pitch, and extends out certain sounds. It makes him sound older than he probably is. I have no idea why he is using a voice filter as he already revealed his voice unfiltered in the video in which he doxed Avie. Maybe it's to put on an air of legitimacy, who knows. Grubba sounds like a early 20s version of Ethan Ralph with distinct homosexual tinge to it. Often uses language that places him distinctly in the deep South. If I were to guess, somewhere in or around Tennessee or Kentucky.

The entire thing comes across as incoherent rambling to anybody not already knee deep in various other forms of Internet drama. Grubba was only brought on because he apparently trolled Null by playing script kiddie in his discord server. He also takes credit for having taken down the server by ratting out to a bunch of transexuals about an 'imminent raid' on their server. He also doesn't understand how DDOSing works and thinks that him pressing F5 on his keyboard while the site is down for maintenance is him 'preventing it from coming back up.' I legitimately believe he might have a developmental disorder. Outside of this opening bit he was largely quiet while Brennan and Wroggle talked shit about Null and the Farms for an hour and a half; Wroggles brings up the Mr__Cynical and Dimitri stuff during all of this but Brennan seems uninterested in it outside of how it relates to Null and the Farms. Both Grubba and Brennan might be too autistic to notice, but Wroggles voice is dripping with fake sincerity when replying to anything they're talking about. So much so that it leaked through the voice filter, it legitimately unnerved me.

Some other interesting things I bothered to take notes on, in no particular order:
  • Multiple times they lie about Null being a Shotacon during a 'gay phase.'
  • Wroggles knows of the Infinitychan+ drama from 8chan. This sounds more like recalling from memory rather than reading off of notes.
  • When the Femboy Hangout leaks are brought up, Wroggles fails to mention Soarel having posted it publicly on his twitter and claims that Dimitri is the direct source of the leaks. Further claims that these were directly handed to Flamenco.
  • He apparently first submitted a Cybertip and RMCP report on Rikafag in 2015. He has continued to send these reports on a frequent basis since he became aware of him being a minor e-celebrity and 'recognizing his voice.'
  • He started suspecting Flamenco of having a deeper relationship with Dimitri because he got upset that he 'brought up his info mid stream.' Given how he handles reports to authorities, I'm going to imagine he just spammed it constantly. He also tried to spam Andy Warski with this during a stream.
  • He has a fundamental misunderstanding of the Farms and probably started using it thinking it was an e-vigilante forum rather than a internet gossip site. Yes, he is upset that it wasn't his personal army.
  • He claims the Rika thread was being 'slid' by a 'clique,' presumably masterminded by Dimitri that infiltrated the Kiwi Farms. Rika's thread was on the Internet Famous section of the site, which was a subforum with a lot of active threads. It wasn't being 'slid' the thread was dead as there was no new information coming forward, so other threads started being bumped to page one, burying the Rika thread. This is a normal function of internet forums.
  • Gives a weird analogy about the culpability of the Farms in not policing its userbase offsite using a weird 'city limits' analogy that sounds an awful lot like 'the internet is a series of tubes.'
  • Talks about Chris-Chan's relationship with Null, alleges that Null was purposely withholding some donation money from him(?). I'm not familiar with this so I cannot comment on it.
  • Wroggles talked about the Dimitri shit with Keffals at some point, apparently even Keffals wasn't buying what he was selling.
  • He unironically apologized to Keffals at some point.
  • More weird language from Wroggles. He refers to light banter as 'chillville jokes.'
  • More or less confirms that Brennan was his last outlet.
  • He thinks that Jim Watkins controls the farms because he doesn't have a lolcow thread. While I believe that was true, 8chan and the community around it did. That included Jim Watkins.
  • Brennan tries to dunk on Null by telling an anecdote from when he first moved to the Philipines to work with Watson. According to him, Jim Watson try to get null to sleep with a prostitute so he could 'trust him,' something he apparently asked of all 8chan staff. Null refused. Basically uses this to make fun of Null for 'never being with a woman.' Common sense explanation is that this was clearly a blackmailing ploy Null was trying to dodge and not an incel thing.
TL;DR, the throughline of Wroggles claims is that he believes that Dimitri Monroe has, through a network of alt accounts and infiltrators, a grip on the Farms. Unironically. This is a thought is shared in sincerity.

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Apparently drunk Scorn was upset with Grubba as I have MACHO KILL YOURSELF!! taking up half a page. I do not know if there is context to that or if it was a general feeling.

Anyways, it appears that we have a new challenger. All we need is like Dimitri and Wroggles to make accounts and I can safely sit back and watch everyone embarrass themselves on the Internet. Somehow, despite me writing 'in the off chance you read this,' I did not expect Cynical to show up. I wonder if the same person who threatened Soarel with this thread is also the one who DM'd this to him?
 

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I was going to address your longer response to me before I commented on anything else, but have been delayed in doing so due to tech issues. I’m just going to respond to a couple things re:the podcast because you don’t have your facts entirely straight

When the Femboy Hangout leaks are brought up, Wroggles fails to mention Soarel having posted it publicly on his twitter and claims that Dimitri is the direct source of the leaks.

Dimitri told me to post it. He received the leaks from someone who was in the server, but didn’t want to continue his direct involvement in the drama so he contacted me and asked me to post it for him, which I agreed to. since my original discord was banned I do not have access to our DMs, but I do have this screenshot from a private server we shared in which he mentions it.

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the throughline of Wroggles claims is that he believes that Dimitri Monroe has, through a network of alt accounts and infiltrators, a grip on the Farms

This does seem to be at least partially the case, I’m not sure if it’s actually ops per se but whenever he gets brought up in someone else’s thread, the same few users always inevitably appear to defend him. This is what he’s referring to, basically saying that there is a group of users on the Farms that go out of their way to defend him.

Somehow, despite me writing 'in the off chance you read this,' I did not expect Cynical to show up. I wonder if the same person who threatened Soarel with this thread is also the one who DM'd this to him?

I was I sent this thread by Avie. I’m not going to include a screenshot because I don’t want to get hounded for leaking DMs again but you can ask him yourself.
 

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Oh boy, we have a regular Snopes contributor in here.

Dimitri told me to post it. He received the leaks from someone who was in the server, but didn’t want to continue his direct involvement in the drama so he contacted me and asked me to post it for him, which I agreed to. since my original discord was banned I do not have access to our DMs, but I do have this screenshot from a private server we shared in which he mentions it.
That doesn't change the fact that a) you posted it and b) he willingly left you out the story, telling an incomplete narrative. If you were to just listen to the podcast and believe it without context, it would come across as Dimitri having personally forward the leaks to Flamenco. He left you out because that both runs counter to a narrative that ties Dimitri and his 'pedoguard' and also could lead people, including the hosts, to discover that he was assossciated with somebody who played messenger for the leaks. While this is publicly viewable on his Burnbern8 account, it is buried in replies to other threads. Most people are incurious and aren't going to go researching into something that doesn't directly affect them. I.E. internet gossip about a femboy warring with a tranny and her horde of sniplets.

He's lying by omission.

This does seem to be at least partially the case, I’m not sure if it’s actually ops per se but whenever he gets brought up in someone else’s thread, the same few users always inevitably appear to defend him. This is what he’s referring to, basically saying that there is a group of users on the Farms that go out of their way to defend him.
No, people were mocking because he was trying to bump the KF thread with alts in an attempt to make the Rika thread about Dimitri and her 'pedo clique conspiracy.' I read the thread myself while looking into the two of you, it's plain as fucking day what he's doing. He fucked it up, and people were pissed at him for making it near impossible to get anything more out of Rika. The guy has a bad habbit of using weird language that can tip off anybody with a modicum of observational skills and common sense.

I was I sent this thread by Avie. I’m not going to include a screenshot because I don’t want to get hounded for leaking DMs again but you can ask him yourself.
I am not in contact with Avie, but I'll choose to believe you here as that does line up with him having the tendency to get imflammatory in DMs when pissed (something that's pretty easy to glean from the leaks).

Anyways, let us turn our gaze to the next ringbearer.

It was funny almost a decade ago on 4chan(...)
4chan humor was more fucked up back then, that much I can confirm. Very much still in the 'being a shitter' mode than the 'shitting on people mode.' A lot of people miss that distinction.

(...)In 2013-2014, I considered the waifu threads to be cancer, so I created bullshit to make people angry. I succeeded, and most threads became people who continuously spammed the threads to get me to leave, resulting in the /a/ mods permanently deleting the waifu threads.
The clip about Thailand was on a mumble call with a bunch of waifufags after the waifu threads were permanently banned. When Wroggles recognized my voice from my popular youtube videos, he had a recording of it and uploaded it on twitter and youtube.
Was Wroggles in that VC? Or was the mumble audio given to him by somebody else? Either way, I heard about the waifuthread shit while looking into this but I couildn't confirm whether or not is legit. I don't even think I mentioned it in the OP post.

It's a self-perpetuating cycle of dragging more and more people to 'raise awareness' about the bullshit I said a decade ago with the vicious cycle goal of raising more awareness to reach a non-existing goal.
That's ultimately what floors me about all of this, most vigilantes have at least have an end goal in mind. I don't believe Wroggles has one outside of ruining an Internet career.
On an even funnier side, consider the possibility that I actually did all those evil things and that I got away with it all.
Ultimately it's your word against your own. You put yourself in a position where the only way to clear yourself of wrongdoing to your detractors would be to give compromising information (basically proving that you didn't go to Thailand, so flight logs).

One more thing, I've seen both logs and claims about you having posted images of (what is allegedly) your younger sister in those waifu threads that could be considered sexual in nature depending on the context. With the most egregious being a picture of her bare feet; you yourself claimed that it was 'consentual' on her part on your old account. While I'm not familiar with Canadian law, I know in the US that this could be considered 'pandering' and treated the same as child pornography under federal law. Do you care to comment on that, if at all? Even if the Thailand story is bullshit, I can't accept that you're completely clear of wrongdoing with that in mind.
 

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Ultimately it's your word against your own. You put yourself in a position where the only way to clear yourself of wrongdoing to your detractors would be to give compromising information (basically proving that you didn't go to Thailand, so flight logs).
And the apparent outcome of 'your word against your word' is not to trust a person's words unless there is evidence. Claiming you've done something is not evidence, and one does not have to provide evidence to counter bullshit claims; it is your responsibility to recognize that claims, on their own, mean nothing. It is perfectly acceptable to be suspicious, wary of me, and not want to ever talk to me, but I don't have to prove that I never went to Thailand to remove those doubts unless the police ask for it because then my life is at risk. The joke is that if Wroggles somehow manages to get the police to find me, they can look at my flight logs and see that I never went there. That's why people say, 'why not just let the police handle it,' and he keeps claiming that the police are worthless. If the police won't do anything, what can you do? What can raising more awareness about me do? He always evades that point because he's an idiot. I prefer to let my absurd claims speak for themselves because they are a test to see whether people are gullible idiots.

One more thing, I've seen both logs and claims about you having posted images of (what is allegedly) your younger sister in those waifu threads that could be considered sexual in nature depending on the context. With the most egregious being a picture of her bare feet; you yourself claimed that it was 'consentual' on her part on your old account. While I'm not familiar with Canadian law, I know in the US that this could be considered 'pandering' and treated the same as child pornography under federal law. Do you care to comment on that, if at all? Even if the Thailand story is bullshit, I can't accept that you're completely clear of wrongdoing with that in mind.
No, it would not be 'pandering' under US federal law, as feet themselves are not sexual and are thus not under the classification of being obscene. This topic is more of an ambiguity problem as no one can adequately define obscenity; it always becomes an 'I'll know it when I see it.' None of the pictures were pornographic because the photographs are neither erotic nor show any sexual body parts. The pictures came more from these 'talk about your sister' /a/ threads where people would talk about their sisters. Most people would only tell stories about their sisters, and I thought it would be fun to do that and post pictures of my sister, as most people were larping and I wanted to give more credibility to my own cute stories with my sister. The one about feet is where I took a photo of her while she was watching tv. Wroggles wants to claim nefarious intentions because I joked, 'is anyone a footfag,' because it's well known that some people on 4chan have weird obsessions over feet. The picture shows her sitting on the couch (fully clothed, if that seemed ambiguous), where you can see her bare feet. By no possible context does it become child pornography in either intent or actual photograph. Wroggles wants to argue that taking such a picture and posting it on 4chan is proof of ill intent because he believes the meme that everyone on 4chan is a pedophile. Therefore, to post non-sexual pictures of someone underaged on that website is a criminal act, which is laughably wrong and incoherent as it does not violate 4chan's terms nor violates the law. I don't mind if people see my actions of posting pictures of my sister on the internet and 4chan to be dubious, but the whole world posts pictures of their relatives. The fact that I did so, but on 4chan, is not a crime, and I don't see it as wrongdoing.

All Wroggles can do is repeatedly point to when I joked 'is anyone a footfag' as proof of guilt, hoping that it convinces people, all while ignoring the photograph's context that bare feet are just part of the picture, and are not by themselves sexual in nature. Wroggles' 'evidence' on me is why the police keep ignoring him. Look, this guy posted a photo that includes his sister's feet on the internet! Horrific! Wow, he said he did things online? I guess that's good enough for me! It's nothing, and everyone knows it; that's why everyone keeps telling him to fuck off. And, because of this one thing, he keeps focusing on it and will drag everyone to acknowledge that it's enough to label anyone who refuses to talk about me as part of a pedophile ring. Attempting to destroy the lives of multiple people over a picture that includes bare feet from almost a decade ago, is that not the height of absurdity?
 
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A small update; Wroggles has been fairly quiet since the stream with Hotwheels. Mostly he's just been engaging in petty arguments with randos and slowly distancing himself from Keffals and the #DropKiwifarms crowd, however, I noticed he's been retweeting a relatively fresh account though:


Made in July of this year with it only becoming active on the eighth of this month. I'm not a betting man, but this screams 'sockpuppet account.' The main purpose of this account is to create and post truly bad memes about e-celebs; mostly Dimitri related but there are a couple that are Ralph and Rikafag related. They are shockingly low quality image macros:

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I don't know how he failed to understand how both the Andy and Parkland shooter meme formats work. This guy is, supposedly, roughly my age by my estimates. How does he have a sub-Boomer understanding of Internet memes?

Here's his follows, followers, and likes respectively:

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A lot of meme and content aggregation accounts, the type that a lot of impressionable young people might follow. And his only like is Wroggles' thread on Rika's blurry semi-face dox. I'm not sure who the random Iranian-Swedish migrant is following the Revy account is. Probably somebody Wroggles dragged into DMs. If I were to speculate, then I'm pretty sure that he's trying to get one of these accounts to insert one of his cringe memes into their rotation in hopes that it gets picked up by Dimitri's hate following. That, of course, is operating off of this being a dummy account.

That's all, I'll leave off with a stunning case of self-awareness:

 

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I've got bad news, everyone, Wroggles is a hard H varisher and not a variser. How dare he appropriate our language. Varish is OUR WORD!


This is yet another case of a critical lack of self-awareness. I'm assuming this and not intentional duplicity; I highly doubt that Wroggles is capable of seeing that both him and Keffals are willing to use similar tactics for the high crime of talking about him, albeit in an unfavorable light. He really wants to believe that everyone isn't laughing at his hamfisted attempts to war with a femboy, a crossdresser, and Canada's (alleged) knockoff Epstein.
 
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