Censorship Nintendo blocks Neptunia trilogy's Western release on Switch

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Lusty Daicon

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Okay, I'll get straight to the crux of the matter then.
If attacked directly as Anti-Fiction, they can't be willfully ignorant. They will have to be explicit about their awful use of Anti-Fiction beliefs to scapegoat and censor fiction, and thus they will never be able to blend in with creators and people who respect fiction... I personally feel anyone involved in the creation, distribution, and celebration of fiction is capable of becoming a FictionAlly/Pro-Ship.

However, I will not concede that left-wing social ideas are inseparable from what I call Anti-Fiction... by explaining that the issue with wokeness is its Anti-Fiction scapegoating and its censoring of fiction, the ideas of fiction uncensorship would spread.
All of this, I disagree with. These people are extreme hypocrites. They have no shortage of cognitive dissonance and double standards. If the Handmaid's Tale, or something near and dear to the gay community, were censored, you'd see an outpouring of objection from typically anti-fiction and fence-sitting "progressives". I'll repeat this again, because it's essential to the problem and went unreplied to: Woke people do not give a fuck about normal, heterosexual men. They're either indifferent to, or happy to see something straight guys enjoy taken away from them. This applies to the "creators" among them too, like the author of I am not Starfire (I prefer to call them propagandists).

As for leftism not being inseparable from anti-fiction, it's more conducive to being anti-fiction than other ideologies, such as libertarianism. Marx never said anything about freedom of expression being intrinsically valuable. Marxism does not have the concept of unalienable rights. Instead, it makes everything about present circumstances, "material conditions". Your freedoms are entirely dependent on circumstance. Marxists raised with enlightenment values, will take certain freedoms for granted, failing to recognize that if society wholly adopted their new ideology, all of those freedoms would be put on trial.

Within even the current generation of leftists, there are many who wish to proactively remove freedoms on grounds that intentionally muddle morality with practicality, like Big Joel. In a video of his defending Anita, he concocted a hypothetical piece of nazi propaganda so ridiculous that it could not actually influence anybody. However, because the ideas within this propaganda are obviously "harmful", the propaganda can be considered harmful. When laid out like this, it seems absurd, but an entire debate isn't necessary to influence people. If something is called harmful enough times, that will worm its way into people's subconscious, and they will feel compelled to prevent it from being produced and disseminated.

Bayonetta was awful, until they decided she's a lesbian in their headcanon, and then she was awful again when PlatinumGames revealed she's not. By and large, woke people despise conventional, male sexuality. That is a core part of their ideology. Being anti-fiction might not be, but being pro-fiction isn't either, and they believe applying different standards in different circumstances is the right thing to do.
 
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CACF

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Instead of just complaining on a forum, why don't we actually do something about?

Let's be realistic, the number of consumers that would actually refuse to buy a Switch 2 due to NoA's and NoE's new restrictions is miniscule. So instead, I want to start a letter-writing campaign. Writing to NoA or NoE would be useless, because they will misinterpret any anti-censorship backlash as a right-wing backlash. Instead, I want us to write directly to Nintendo of Japan about NoA's and NoE's new policies, and how they negatively effect us as consumers.

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TacoBell-kun

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Instead of just complaining on a forum, why don't we actually do something about?

Let's be realistic, the number of consumers that would actually refuse to buy a Switch 2 due to NoA's and NoE's new restrictions is miniscule. So instead, I want to start a letter-writing campaign. Writing to NoA or NoE would be useless, because they will misinterpret any anti-censorship backlash as a right-wing backlash. Instead, I want us to write directly to Nintendo of Japan about NoA's and NoE's new policies, and how they negatively effect us as consumers.

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No shit. Of course bringing this up on a niche forum alone isn't going to fix the problem.

As for writing letters to Nintendo of Japan, I actually agree. Though a challenge with this is that the letters will have to be written in Japanese, a language that a good majority of people on this forum don't understand. We'll need a translator who's willing to translate the letters to Japanese.

Also, the letters will have to be physical letters. Emails hold much less weight.
 

Tsetskhli776

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Hmm there's a bunch of hentai shovelware in the eshop but Nintendo didn't allow this.
I wonder if the reason is another thing entirely rather than censorship, but i doubt it.
 

Narmy

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Hmm there's a bunch of hentai shovelware in the eshop but Nintendo didn't allow this.
I wonder if the reason is another thing entirely rather than censorship, but i doubt it.
If there is a reason I'd say it's because they are specifically targeting games that people care about from developers that aren't big enough to fight back. Nobody would even notice if some random AI game that is churned out by the hundreds was banned.

Reminder that this fuckface still works at NoA. He couldn't stop the release of Senran Kagura, but now NoA is probably full of likeminded people who can stop the release of games they don't like.
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JX475

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Writing to NoA or NoE would be useless, because they will misinterpret any anti-censorship backlash as a right-wing backlash. Instead, I want us to write directly to Nintendo of Japan about NoA's and NoE's new policies, and how they negatively effect us as consumers.
You talk about being realistic, yet you do not realize Japanese Creators are up to their breaking point with DEI/ESG, Western Branches visiting their offices to tell them to censor, emailing them about some design that is not for "Modern Audiences", how to make games, or what to do, that essentially regardless of what everyone argues here about Capitalism and Money, they would rather take that hit of not having any money by not releasing it West, if it meant not having to deal with that as a whole. It's why NOJ is protecting Japan, and telling them they do not have to deal with the Western Branches and all they need to care about is Japan. NOJ should put Japan first, much like NOA should put America first. Everyone wishes to take the easy way out than to address the problems. Until the Western Branches are replaced by people who are Pro-Japan and let Japan be Japan. Down to it's Fanservice, to it's writing, down to it's humor, and not ask for any censorship or changes. Then essentially it will stay this way and we will be locked out from their content and it stays Japan Only.

There are rumors that companies like Square Enix has put into the Japanese Version of the Survey if they would like to prioritize Japan and take a hit in the West by not releasing anything else West to make amends for how badly they treated Japan. This is because "Modern Audiences" did not buy the games, and they know that they are going to need Japan to carry them and would rather cater to Japan than to censor itself for the Western Branch even if it means losing money. So welcome back to 2007 if this is true, where only Final Fantasy or Kingdom Hearts made it West, and other games were Japan exclusive. I can believe it only because it was hard to even get Nier to come West because the Western Branch would complain to Yoko Taro about the Protagonist being an Adult Male and the Younger Female existing until they finally caved in with Replicant a decade later. Now it's all or nothing. Either the Branches are not going to say anything and allow it to come West with Zero Issue or it will stay Japan Only just like it was 14 years ago.

If there is a reason I'd say it's because they are specifically targeting games that people care about from developers that aren't big enough to fight back. Nobody would even notice if some random AI game that is churned out by the hundreds was banned.

Reminder that this fuckface still works at NoA. He couldn't stop the release of Senran Kagura, but now NoA is probably full of likeminded people who can stop the release of games they don't like.
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Exactly, it's targeting the games we like in order to "own the chuds" they are in all the Western Branches. We need to mark these people as our enemies and begin to campaign on their removal and put people in NOA and every Western Branch in America that is going to be a Pro-Japan type and not an Anti or Moralistic type. At some point if we do not, we run the risk of circling back to where we started again. Where Senran Kagura and Neptunia Mainlines can not even come West unless it goes with this stupid SJW "Guidelines" and removes everything. We have the numbers, we just need to disseminate the information and begin putting pressure now and call these places out like we always do. Time to put Nintendo Of America on the list and highlight these people working in these companies in the localization threads and hopefully people begin to see it and realize the issue is that deep in America and remove it.
 

HYppog

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I am deciding whether to get Tokyo Clanpool on Switch. This version is also censored like GOG right?
 

JX475

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I am deciding whether to get Tokyo Clanpool on Switch. This version is also censored like GOG right?
All of them have the censored Mini-Game. The main problem is that they wanted to make it available on ALL platforms even if it meant taking out the Mini-Game due to the NOA/NOE and even the odd Nintendo Of Asia Guidelines. There is no Mod to add it back in sadly. One thing I think we will need to do moving forward is to make an account on GOG and go there, to buy the games if they are rejected on Steam. As on 4ch I think Developers and other users were basically saying Nintendo and Steam are huge platforms, and there needs to be enough users buying on GOG to offset the costs of not censoring a title to put it on all platforms. GOG allows anything because it's 2nd place to Steam.
 
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