Stellar Blade developers fired two feminists from their company, gamers rejoice

[Rama]

Shift Up is pretty cultured, as anyone who plays Nikke can tell you. The problem here is Soyny so i'm actually surprised how much sexiness was left behind. (JK shirt with full length jeans still looks suspicious though).

From what i gather there could be 2 reasons. The 1st is that Sony is only biased against anime games because those retards think it's for children and all the characters are children too. This game looks "realistic" enough that Shift Up got away with it.

The 2nd reason is that Shift Up's financial situation changed massively during the 1 year Nikke was released. Before that they even had to EOS their other gacha (Destiny Child) to gather resources for Nikke. They were probably at an overwhelming disadvantage in discussions with Sony since they needed money to make Stellar Blade. Nikke made hundreds of millions $ and can already fund Stellar Blade after a single year in service so Shift Up can afford to fight for their creative vision now.

 

[YakuInTheFlesh]

It looks decent for what it is, but I wonder if they will break even with it. Even though the PS5 sales look good, most of them are still normies that got into it during COVID. Most of them play FIFA and maybe like one other game.
I do get why this game is exclusive / sony wants to keep it exclusive (The PS5 has a total of 12 exclusives since launch including tech demos and unreleasee games), but this impact sales hard.

 

[Narmy]

Shift Up is pretty cultured, as anyone who plays Nikke can tell you.

Being known primarily for gachashit tells me they are quite the opposite of cultured actually.

 

[HYppog]

It's going to have A LOT of outfits.

While this looks positively, I'm going to wait and see final product on release first, knowing Sony and their unbridled lust for censorship.

 

[Rama]

Being known primarily for gachashit tells me they are quite the opposite of cultured actually.

Sure, then you can keep sticking to your ugly western landwhales troons games or censored japanese games. Gachas are popular for a reason lol. Not saying it's perfect but wtf in life is?

 

[Narmy]

Sure, then you can keep sticking to your ugly western landwhales troons games or censored japanese games. Gachas are popular for a reason lol. Not saying it's perfect but wtf in life is?

This is a false choice, I can easily reject all of those. And to be blunt, gamers with no standards who support gacha are a huge reason why we are in this predicament in the first place.

 

[Rama]

This is a false choice, I can easily reject all of those. And to be blunt, gamers with no standards who support gacha are a huge reason why we are in this predicament in the first place.

Lol, which Gacha hurt you? The fact you generalize a whole fucking genre (almost) makes it clear you got a personal vendetta against something. If you don't then that's even worse, cuz you just don't know shit about what you're talking about. Saying all gachas are the same is like saying all action games are the same. It's a retarded statement.

You're acting like if gachas don't exist, the whole industry would be magically cured of everything. That's far from the truth. Gachas exist because there's a market segment for them, plain and simple. Most gacha players are not even traditional gamers, if gachas don't exist they're not gonna go for AAAs. The gaming industry got actual fcking problems, and it's not just woke shit or censorship. That's just what we cares about here.

 

[Narmy]

Lol, which Gacha hurt you? The fact you generalize a whole fucking genre (almost) makes it clear you got a personal vendetta against something. If you don't then that's even worse, cuz you just don't know shit about what you're talking about. Saying all gachas are the same is like saying all action games are the same. It's a retarded statement.

You're acting like if gachas don't exist, the whole industry would be magically cured of everything. That's far from the truth. Gachas exist because there's a market segment for them, plain and simple. Most gacha players are not even traditional gamers, if gachas don't exist they're not gonna go for AAAs. The gaming industry got actual fcking problems, and it's not just woke shit or censorship. That's just what we cares about here.

I'm not talking about a genre, I am talking about a business model that makes sure you don't own your games and tries to squeeze as much money as possible from you. It really annoys me that people rightly criticize companies like Ubisoft for all their shitty business practices, but as soon as you poke the elephant in the room they act like you're out of line. Well I will keep poking that elephant until you wake up and demand a better industry.

 

[Rama]

I'm not talking about a genre, I am talking about a business model that makes sure you don't own your games and tries to squeeze as much money as possible from you. It really annoys me that people rightly criticize companies like Ubisoft for all their shitty business practices, but as soon as you poke the elephant in the room they act like you're out of line. Well I will keep poking that elephant until you wake up and demand a better industry.

Lol, you're talking about the model that every single company in this industry has been pushing for years? The model that will decrease cost and increase revenue for them? If you think you own your PS, XBOX, Steam, etc.. games then i've got a bridge to sell you. And no even your precious physical copies wouldn't be safe. The day 1 patches and online requirements will make sure of that.

Like, i'm not defending gachas here lol. All those practices are bad. I just find it weird that you single gachas out for shit everyone else is doing, like it's fcking personal or something. Meanwhile you also ignore the fact that gachas give people what they actually want, like engaging stories, beautiful women and constant updates. I've played most big/medium releases of 2023 and they're all a fcking disgrace. Even with no additional monetization what so ever.

I guess you think gachas started the trend? As i said, they are not made to target gamers (cuz we're stingy and effective). You can blame the big studios for thinking they can pull the same shit but greedy suits are the same in every industries.

 

[Narmy]

Lol, you're talking about the model that every single company in this industry has been pushing for years? The model that will decrease cost and increase revenue for them? If you think you own your PS, XBOX, Steam, etc.. games then i've got a bridge to sell you. And no even your precious physical copies wouldn't be safe. The day 1 patches and online requirements will make sure of that.

Like, i'm not defending gachas here lol. All those practices are bad. I just find it weird that you single gachas out for shit everyone else is doing, like it's fcking personal or something. Meanwhile you also ignore the fact that gachas give people what they actually want, like engaging stories, beautiful women and constant updates. I've played most big/medium releases of 2023 and they're all a fcking disgrace. Even with no additional monetization what so ever.

I guess you think gachas started the trend? As i said, they are not made to target gamers (cuz we're stingy and effective). You can blame the big studios for thinking they can pull the same shit but greedy suits are the same in every industries.

I single them out because unlike other practices you have a large majority of people in our niche sphere actually defending and participating in this shit. I want engaging stories and beautiful women in real games like we used to have, not an always online service that can be shut down at any time. The only way to get that is to reject both gacha and shitty westernized games. Please just have some standards.

I mean, I've taken a look at the twitter clone thing here before, it's wall after wall of gacha shit. I'm not going to close my eyes to so many people supporting this practice who should know better.

 

[Rama]

I single them out because unlike other practices you have a large majority of people in our niche sphere actually defending and participating in this shit. I want engaging stories and beautiful women in real games like we used to have, not an always online service that can be shut down at any time. The only way to get that is to reject both gacha and shitty westernized games. Please just have some standards.

I mean, I've taken a look at the twitter clone thing here before, it's wall after wall of gacha shit. I'm not going to close my eyes to so many people supporting this practice who should know better.

Beggars can't be choosers bro. How can you have standards if literally only one store sells what you want? Even in Japan eroges are dying.

The reason people in our sphere participate in this shit is because those real games stopped giving us what we want so we've to find SOMETHING, not the other way around. The industry can't return to what we had before because they're not making any money with that model (not with the raised costs and dev time nowadays). The only people willing to subsidize that shit will NEVER give us what we want.

Life moved on, we're just adapting.

 

[Hexasheep93]

Looks decent. Stock outfit got toned down from initial project eve reveal, but industry is in such a draught that even the toned down outfit still look decent. Apparently shift up devs are big snoys lol. Would have tried it if it was on PC, no way I am gonna buy a ps5 just for this.

Snoy?

 

[Xephavitos]

This is a false choice, I can easily reject all of those. And to be blunt, gamers with no standards who support gacha are a huge reason why we are in this predicament in the first place.

Japanese developers publishing games on PC and console being complete cucks to Sony/Valve/"Global Standards"/"Modern audiences", and the ones that were actually not sellouts and worth supporting moved to gacha because it's literally impossible to release those kinds of games nowadays. The console market in Japan has been dying for years on top of that.

I'd argue that it's the reverse. The reason gacha games are so prevalent is because mobile games somehow have less bullshit content policy strings attached to them than PS/Xbox/Steam games. The gacha game for Senran Kagura had a promo event with Neptunia x Senran Kagura, and the content in that is way more risque than literally anything in the soulless goyslop game it's promoting. The Dead or Alive gacha game is the only good thing Team Ninja has been doing nowadays.

It's fucking sad when a Korean gacha game like Blue Archive has more respect for their playerbase AND more of a backbone than literally any cuckold Japanese developers putting their slop on consoles and PC, despite that being a gacha game (And at least the grind is nowhere as bad as Mihoyo's, and you don't have to engage with the gacha system if you don't want to). I hope the developers won't change the game for grifter terminally online retards that don't play the game.

 

[PhantomXero1x]

Snoy?

Who else Sony is zesty as hell these days.

Sony can't even function at all properly because they the same company who made a promo tweet bout first female demon to a fucking tradcath fanbase like doom has lol.

 

[Narmy]

Japanese developers publishing games on PC and console being complete cucks to Sony/Valve/"Global Standards"/"Modern audiences", and the ones that were actually not sellouts and worth supporting moved to gacha because it's literally impossible to release those kinds of games nowadays. The console market in Japan has been dying for years on top of that.

I'd argue that it's the reverse. The reason gacha games are so prevalent is because mobile games somehow have less bullshit content policy strings attached to them than PS/Xbox/Steam games. The gacha game for Senran Kagura had a promo event with Neptunia x Senran Kagura, and the content in that is way more risque than literally anything in the soulless goyslop game it's promoting. The Dead or Alive gacha game is the only good thing Team Ninja has been doing nowadays.

It's fucking sad when a Korean gacha game like Blue Archive has more respect for their playerbase AND more of a backbone than literally any cuckold Japanese developers putting their slop on consoles and PC, despite that being a gacha game (And at least the grind is nowhere as bad as Mihoyo's, and you don't have to engage with the gacha system if you don't want to). I hope the developers won't change the game for grifter terminally online retards that don't play the game.

Yeah, making people gamble for jpegs sure is showing respect to the players. Fuck off, that is peak goyslop.

I've heard all of these gacha apologetics before and it all boils down to the psychological manipulation they design into the game fucking up your brain. No different from a drug addict defending his addiction.

 

[Zurathetix]

Snoy?

Devs are playstation fanboys. There was an article how the ceo of the company bought everyone ps5s.

because it's literally impossible to release those kinds of games nowadays.

Its not though. Especially stuff that marketplaces like appstores allow, that type of content could easily be released elsewhere, yet the devs choose to cuck themselves. I feel like there should be a separate thread for all the gacha talk as its a pretty interesting topic.

 

[Narmy]

Devs are playstation fanboys. There was an article how the ceo of the company bought everyone ps5s.

Its not though. Especially stuff that marketplaces like appstores allow, that type of content could easily be released elsewhere, yet the devs choose to cuck themselves. I feel like there should be a separate thread for all the gacha talk as its a pretty interesting topic.

Yeah I didn't mean to derail the thread so I'll just leave it at that.

 

[JX475]

Devs are playstation fanboys. There was an article how the ceo of the company bought everyone ps5s.

Its not though. Especially stuff that marketplaces like appstores allow, that type of content could easily be released elsewhere, yet the devs choose to cuck themselves. I feel like there should be a separate thread for all the gacha talk as its a pretty interesting topic.

That is what bothers me. It seems like this studio kept promoting these tech demo trailers and was waiting on investment to come in from someone and it came from an American Company that used to be Japanese. That is known to censor, tone down and even ban anything that is fanservice in nature to where we are back in the 90's again.

As for marketplaces i agree, I could go in order of least censored places to most.
1. JAST. An eroge store that does also sell fanservice and eroge games nowadays and allows any fanservice title on its site. It even sells the Dual Princess game that is not on Steam and Nintendo.
2. GOG. Allowed Rance, Muramasa etc Uncensored, and most adult titles are not censored. There is hardly any picking and choosing when and how things get approved like Steam.
2. Steam. Better than Consoles overall due to allowing hentai and fanservice but is weird due to their approval policies and lack of transparency of how things get approved. Also sometimes forces developers to cut the content to then get a patch offsite for things even Western Devs are allowed to get away with more than Japanese developers. Only time they reverse decisions is if the news reports on it like Chaos;Head etc.
3. Switch/Nintendo allows fanservice and not hentai for obvious reasons.
4. Microsoft and Sony. Two of the most American companies in modern times that like to censor everything. If it was not for Sony being so bad I would put Microsoft below them. But Sony has been known to try and do retroactive censorship where it effects other platforms when it goes on their own. Microsoft last I checked does not do that and is less worse but it's a small difference.

Honestly the platforms exist and there is audiences there to buy them and even those willing to go over and switch away from platforms that are bad. But it's up to the devs themselves to really make that decision and try to know the market overall.

 

[RaptorJesus]

I'm not talking about a genre, I am talking about a business model that makes sure you don't own your games and tries to squeeze as much money as possible from you. It really annoys me that people rightly criticize companies like Ubisoft for all their shitty business practices, but as soon as you poke the elephant in the room they act like you're out of line. Well I will keep poking that elephant until you wake up and demand a better industry.

Gacha is older than video games. Capsule machines have been around for decades. There's nothing wrong with it. Your complaint is just with anything that isn't client-side. Anything online will eventually end.