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blackjack

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Wondering when Twitch is going to have Neuro as the next poster girl of Twitch to replace ironmouse. The last few streams are making her look Gura tier in viewers.
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He got denied his front page request because of Mr.Beast.
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Vedal was not raided by any big streamer and still not on front page. Mr. Beast is still on front page and gets mogged anyways.
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NotEnoshima

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While I get that the trend of Vtuber is all about hiding behind a pixelated model, isn't Neuro-sama, in the sense of being an actual, you know, virtual tuber more suitable for the trend?
 

blackjack

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yeah she is in the sense of a true virtual tuber, in fact she has to be quite entertaining based on how much she streams with her current viewers.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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Neuro has some fun moments, but I think there may be something shady going on. Sure she is an AI in the way most people use the term, but I also think there is some scripting / feeding instructions going on.

That being said, the seeth from VSJ would be insane if Iron gets replaced by Neuro as the Twitch poster VTuber. Hell I've seen how many people have collabed / want to collab with Neuro compared to Iron.
 

blackjack

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Even if it was scripted by someone else, than the person doing that is pretty entertaining to keep that large audience from what the twitch tracker is telling me.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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Even if it was scripted by someone else, than the person doing that is pretty entertaining to keep that large audience from what the twitch tracker is telling me.
Oh absolutely! However, people would feel betrayed if it came out. It's like a female VTuber having a boyfriend (regardless of if she does GFE or not). Or to name a more mainstream example, look at Milli Vanilli. Nobody cared about either the voice behind them or for Rob and Fab themselves after the incident.
 

blackjack

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What is making me laugh about this all of a sudden is that its like Vedal and Neuro stole connors and ironmouse's scripts if you compare their content.

-Vedal and Cdawgva's streams are like I am the funny british man appeal.
-Neuro and Ironmouses streams are like I am this cutesy female streamer kind of appeal.

There were times Shylily, Filian, Vei, Nyanners and Ironmouse could pull 10k viewers for weeks, sometimes less and sometimes more but Vedal's channel has been very consistent in nearly touching 20k as the average which is insane because he is getting very close to pulling viewers around the same as Gura. Ironmouse averaging 4k CCV with 5K peak twice on twitchtracker is weird and I am assuming she doesn't like Vedal(never did anything wrong AFAIK that would cause controversy) not because he pulls more CCV but the likelihood that they might be sharing the same kind of audience.

Edit: For my own curiosity later I want to catch ironmouse and vedal live at the same time.
 
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blackjack

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Oh yeah another important mention is that Vshojos fanbase and swarm have fought on pixel wars.
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Connor and Mouse wont touch swarm for the next pixel war because based on viewers lately it looks like their community got bigger. The concern is annytf being drunk on power.
 

blackjack

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I am still trying to figure out what goals Vshojo is trying to accomplish.

1.Hololive: although still big, going from private to public to meet DEI quotas caused some major EN vtubers to start quitting and it can only be a matter of time until Gura goes indie. So with a declining company you can aim to be 1st place as the number 1 vtuber EN company.

2. Phase connect: all streamers barely put enough stream time(it makes me question if haruka or hime hajime have more stream time than them) like catching a Lia stream and she quits after 1 hour and she barely streamed with Bao and bounced. Fishman probably told Pippa to chill down with her content which plummeted her viewers. Erina took the advice that she has a sex voice, model and personality with an ASMR video blowing up to 180k views. Just a little ear licks like Saruei or halo_sweety she would blow up in viewers but YT is cracking down on ASMR streams. With twitch and YT being assholes to vtubers. Fansly is looking into benefitting from the stupidity of those 2 platforms. Clara recently started ASMR so we will see if she has growth. Also I recommend their content to be somewhat less boring. Growth of phase has hit a halt it seems.

3. Billionaire decisions: news report say Bezos is losing money from Twitch. And some news out there says he wants to join the musk and trump train. With consideration to vshojo streamers and audience it's still a concern if the platform they are in can get sold to some cool edgy autist that loves trains, rockets and electric cars because of political views.

4.Filian: is a lingering threat, depending on streams and time of day she can have more or less viewers than ironmouse and has very huge support from a lot of vtubers. She might have recently got kirsche and tricky to stream together despite some Internet beef of trump almost getting shot in the head Twitter drama.

5. Vedal987: at 1st I and among others question if he is using bots but his last 2 streams before the subathon were pretty big which might suggest the loli looking RTX nyanners AI vtuber is the new Gura of Twitch. This isn't like where some stream weeks filian, ironmouse, nyanners, vei and shylily would be slightly above or below 10k viewers this is like nearly touching 20k viewers which probably caught the eyes of some other big streamers since they know the platform treats ironmouse as their vtuber mascot. Neuro I heard doesn't share the same viewers from other vtubers like either cdawgva or ironmouse fans would watch either one of them if the other isn't live. Makes me wonder if some chumbuds got tired of Gura to watch her instead. Fairly speaking the swarm is a threat. His only weakness I can see is called Anny. Like when neuro said musk is her role model anny with some chatters shown displeasure and others said based. Even the I hate Russians could split an audience 50/50 some call out Ukraine for being far right nazis because of azov the other side calls Russians ziggers etc(see why kiwifarms has 2 separate threads with regards to the war). Some hate Putin, some think he is based for calling out the Jews as godless and his tucker interview. The fact he just recently found out anny speaks Russian suggests the best advice I have is he stays out of politics or avoid streamers that bring politics to his channel.

Think the only life support vshojo has is some oilers to donate enough subs to shill ironmouse to collab with xqc, Kai cenat, hasanabi and twitch to constantly talk about her on Twitter to win some rewards to keep it afloat. They have some streamers that actually stream and some that don't. Nux drama, bringing up politics before, and froots tweet coming out of nowhere where the members that showed support for froot got ratio'd hard by some negative comments that cheating = bad. I wish they had a ASMR streamer like erina or finana(plenty of hololive members to) and no having a vtuber that streams on CB doesn't count. For some reason I don't know why but I think Froot would be a great choice even if she appears to be the biggest prude of all of them for asmr content. Matara is taking the vei, nyanners and anny route with her slavic sisters in content being 2nd wheels to their 1st wheel collab partners(don't care racism is funny). I think vei, nyanners and silvervale with snuffy interactions they were the life of the party when their content wasn't shit and they had some consistent streams.

3 companies don't seem to give a shit about competition while only filian and vedal might be serious trying to be the top like dokibird to always aim higher.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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Growth of phase has hit a halt it seems
I would argue, that this is false. Phase is really pushing right now (sponsoring events and such) and trying to find their footing. Sure Pippa is playing it a bit too safe right now, but Lia's streams are great. I like when a stream is not this 12+ hour monolith and instead a nice hour that I can watch in one sitting.

news report say Bezos is losing money from Twitch
They have been saying this for a while, but I think if it's really true, then they are just retarded. There is a bunch of things they could do to improve revenue, but instead they piss everyone off by going "We now want a bigger cut from ads!".
In off chance that someone high up on Twitch reads this. Hire me! I can increase your revenue by at least 50% and in the best case scenario quadruple it!

Neuro I heard doesn't share the same viewers from other vtubers like either cdawgva or ironmouse fans would watch either one of them if the other isn't live
I makes sense, that there is little overlap there. Connor is mostly fangirls and normies who are getting into anime and Iron is the pity party.
And also Gura just doesn't stream often enough, but when she does all the chumbuds are there busting their donation nuts all over Gura's face!

Honestly at this point VSJ is really the retirement home of VTubers. VTubers who are done working for a corpo basically use their already existing fame like a pension to live out their remaining time. And just like with actual old people, some just don't want to let go, some have already give up completely and most just kinda live their remaining lives.
 

Lost Branch

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Yeah, as far as I can tell, Phase is doing very well and is growing. I'm pretty sure they just teased more talents (Fauna could do something really funny in that regard).

As for the Bezos thing, Amazon has stated that Twitch has never once made profit since they purchased it, but Amazon has fuck you money, so they don't care. It's more about cultural control than profits.
 

blackjack

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Musk had his net worth blow up not too long ago.
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It is no secret that Musk and Bezos always had dick measuring contests with their net worths being very close but their networth comparison now is exactly like comparing Vedal's viewers to ironmouses. I heard in South Africa whites get mistreated by blacks so that might have shaped his own political views.
What I view most billionaires is like this.
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Musk using twitter talking about if he is ZOG owned and playing path of exile on a plane with starlink makes people view him like this.
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Even going to a barbershop there were 2 people complaining about money is never enough for Musk or some shit like that. But hey everyone is passionate about money at some point even willing to grift their own medical condition on a streaming platform. But Musk is passionate, learned coding in a short period of time even flew to Russia to buy their rocket designs got told no and made better rockets to the point Russia went back to their drawing board in designing rockets like Amur with other various projects like aerospike engines, nuclear space tugs, etc. Doesn't seem to have hate for the Russians based on his geopolitical views and neither does Putin instead praising his decision in AI pursuit in Tuckers interview. I went from being a hater to holy shit this guy is based.

Alright getting off his dick I would not mind that a guy that is passionate about the US being more rich and powerful decided to buy Twitch. His growth and possible decline of Bezos would decide the future of Twitch and what decisions they make on shilling vtubers like Ironmouse.
 

blackjack

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Matara: People on 4chan keep complaining about how I keep talking about Bricky excessively on every stream and I even personally told them that I visited him in real life. I will go talk on stream about how I am still single with guys like Anthony failing to score with me. That way I can keep the unicorns and continue fellating Bricky underneath his desk to see if he will start whimpering live on stream playing warhammer.

She is worser than Vei, Nyanners, Cottontailva, Layna and Filian who atleast have not denied on stream their BFs are soda, aethel, jolltv, tomato and rekson.
 

blackjack

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The thing that gets me is their earlier pursuits to try to interact with streamers like XQC and Kai Cenat like even if they attempted to be besties their communities would not help make your own grow bigger because their own community is like Vtubers? yuck, gross. Personally, I can see Caseoh's community getting along better with Vshojo than XQC or Kai Cenat's community.

Determining botting is still difficult.
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Vedals and ironmouse CCV would be super low and super high, like how the hell do you get 2 streams with a 4k average and peak 5k while the rest go slightly above or below 10k and for vedal the numbers feel like they came out of nowhere. What is very amusing about this is that Gura, Vedal and Ironmouse are respectively the top 3 EN vtubers in terms of CCV but multiply Ironmouses community by 2 you get the swarm community and multiply the swarm community by 2 you get the chumbud community. Ironmouse has loyal fans because of chronic illness. Vedal has loyal fans as when their community was smaller, they were wrecking Vshojo's community in the reddit pixel war. Gura has loyal fans that decided to change their fetish to masochism for her lack of streams.
When people think 1st, 2nd and 3rd place they usually think of it as a very close race, but instead their viewership is like comparing one that leads a platoon, the other a company and the last one a battalion.
 

blackjack

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2025 starts off strong for Neuro if we believe there will be a swarm vs vshojo war.

Vedal beats twitches previous hype train record of level 111 which is assumed that vedal will have a global emote since piratesoftware got one for his previous record.
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Wasn't even in the front page where most other vtubers had a high CCV count on their channels.
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Time to celebrate her achievements.
 

Pendora

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Wasn't even in the front page where most other vtubers had a high CCV count on their channels.
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What I find funny is how Twitch denied Vedal being on the front page (I believe because Mr.Beast was given the slot instead to promote his dogshit show) so I'm glad this is the biggest middle finger he can give to them. Doesn't even need to be front page and smashes the record, get fucked Twitch.
 
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