Why are Americans so frustrated with politics, and how does this play into the view that "everything is about politics".

[EnrikuhLose]

I'm making this thread to hear other people's opinions about this.
Both non-Americans and Americans who aren't like that.

Why are so many Americans, and people from other countries who are influenced by this American worldview, so fond of summing up all of reality to something political?
Art mostly, I'm tired of hearing how "art is always political". And how Americans are unaware of the artistic method of creating art.
(Which is simply taking a real idea, and turning it into something different and new to make it more interesting in a fictional story. This is not the same as making the work political or being that.)
But the most important thing why I'm creating this topic is:
The fandom of several works is starting to be infested with this kind of fetishist and obsessed with politics.
These tourists will soon influence how future games will be, and with that will rewrite the past that "the old games were politicized too!".

We fans of some game or anime, etc, who are not like that, need to do something and also be vocal about these parasites infesting the fandom, wanting to pass this narrative that "everything is political".

(Some examples of how these people act and think:

 

[Hexasheep93]

People will always have their own interpretation of a work and its message and, personally I think that is fine. The problem comes when people just want to impose those interpretation on others as if theirs was any more right than others.

Hell if you believe in death of the author then not even the "cannon" message is any more valid than fans interpretations.

I have no problem with people that believe a work of fiction have a political message as long as they acknowledge that not everyone shares that view and their view is not any better than others.

Sadly that type of person is very rare specially on online cesspools like twatter and reddit

 

[YakuInTheFlesh]

In my opinion, one of the biggest problem in American politics is, that it is a two party system. Sure you have some others floating around, but you are either republican or democrat. Black or White. 0 or 1.
This binary system creates difficulty to not being very into one of the two standpoints. Sure we can say there are far right and far left, but when all you have is right and left it's hart to distinguish the spectrum.
This entire believe system then goes over into other things like games, anime, etc. Because of this lack of nuance you inadvertently almost have to see a message in everything. Sure a e.g. game can draw from an existing issue and point it out / use it as a plot device, but from a story telling perpective this is often done to give the consumer something to realate to and not to make a political statement.
This brings me to the last point. Americans are colonists even to this day. Even the left. If they want to admit it or not. But since the world is "taken" they do it through culture, politics, etc. Americans are the most butthurt about "cultural appropriation". And that I believe comes from their unending quest to make the rest of the world more american.

TL;DR: Binary politics don't allow for nuance and the forced politics in everything could be seens as "cultural colonization".

 

[Cursed]

some people can only see art with politic views
some other only can watch art with moral value
and some just enjoy show.

 

[EnrikuhLose]

People will always have their own interpretation of a work and its message and, personally I think that is fine. The problem comes when people just want to impose those interpretation on others as if theirs was any more right than others.

Hell if you believe in death of the author then not even the "cannon" message is any more valid than fans interpretations.

I have no problem with people that believe a work of fiction have a political message as long as they acknowledge that not everyone shares that view and their view is not any better than others.

Sadly that type of person is very rare specially on online cesspools like twatter and reddit

Of course, it's totally ok for people to have their own interpretation of a work.
The problem is that these people obsessed with politics are mostly leftists and progressives who act like bullies and tourists (because that's what they are).

It doesn't matter if it's in my country or in the US, they act the same. They are vocal in saying that "everyone got this series wrong. It's only us progressives who really understand the message of the work, and it's political and talks about our ideology!".

In the example case there, it's a game that has Jehovah and Lucifer as the final boss of multiple games, but in fact "it's all a political metaphor..."

They don't believe in this "death of the author" theory, because they distort the author's lines to

 

[EnrikuhLose]

In my opinion, one of the biggest problem in American politics is, that it is a two party system. Sure you have some others floating around, but you are either republican or democrat. Black or White. 0 or 1.
This binary system creates difficulty to not being very into one of the two standpoints. Sure we can say there are far right and far left, but when all you have is right and left it's hart to distinguish the spectrum.
This entire believe system then goes over into other things like games, anime, etc. Because of this lack of nuance you inadvertently almost have to see a message in everything. Sure a e.g. game can draw from an existing issue and point it out / use it as a plot device, but from a story telling perpective this is often done to give the consumer something to realate to and not to make a political statement.
This brings me to the last point. Americans are colonists even to this day. Even the left. If they want to admit it or not. But since the world is "taken" they do it through culture, politics, etc. Americans are the most butthurt about "cultural appropriation". And that I believe comes from their unending quest to make the rest of the world more american.

TL;DR: Binary politics don't allow for nuance and the forced politics in everything could be seens as "cultural colonization".

It's really a problem that influences this bipolar mentality even more.
You hit a sweet spot, because Americans are crazy like this, I've never seen one even understand nuance. Even more so if he's a Marvel or DC fan.

And when you don't understand nuance, everything to the person seems to be an apology or interpreted that such a thing is the focus of the work.
In the case of the discussion I had, it was entirely because of that, me trying to explain that artists take real ideas, which includes political ideas, and turn them into something different and new within fiction.

And what's more, SMT borrows political ideas to build a realistic and contextualized world, so that it doesn't look like the theological apocalypse is happening in empty space.
And none of the retards could understand something as simple as that. On the contrary, they hunted for anything that "supports that SMT is a work with a political theme, yes!"
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And Americans are colonialists even today, in the way you described.

Whether through progressivism or any other ideology, they want to make everything a reflection of American culture, or that every game, music, art appeals to their taste.
The worst fruit of this was the new type of translation, called "localization".

This term is becoming popular even in my country.

 

[PhantomXero1x]

some people can only see art with politic views
some other only can watch art with moral value
and some just enjoy show.

Those people always want others to be miserable as others.

I rather stay apolitical af as is personally to be happier in life.

 

[EnrikuhLose]

Those people always want others to be miserable as others.

I rather stay apolitical af as is personally to be happier in life.

"Those people always want others to be miserable as others."

Exactly.
They cannot understand any kind of idea and emotion, which is not related to politics.
They hate anything personal and intimate.