No that called actually knowing what i'm talking about. Yarosh, Timoshenko, Chekivski. Those examples of Rada members with proven hard ties to ultra-nationalists.
Hey retard, my government has an ex Muslim extremist and some extreme socialist in their cabinets, so who gives a fuck?
But I'm not expecting an uprising anytime soon anyway, simply having a nationalist in your cabinet doesn't mean the world is coming to an end.
Which most of the people with IQ higher than room temperature already did. Thank fucking god my family left in 2014.
WTF? And opinion of actual Ukranians doesn't matter just because they oppose all the BS happening in Ukraine right now right?
Seeing as you had the option to leave shows you probably lived a privileged lives and people that tend to go for nation extreme groups tend to come from the poorer classes.
Hence, why your virtue signaling the idea we now need to police Ukraine, while the people themselves chose this route. This is the same retarded notion that we need to force
Japan to uphold our values instead of chose their own. If they didn't, there would be no Azov.
Actually naming organizations and their motives. You are projecting honey. Because so far i'm only one presenting actual arguments you just throwing ad homenims and deflecting.
That's pretty retarded seeing as any part has a motive and so hard to find out what it is, the question is how dangerous is that motive really and to what degree will it
form in its extremist. There were a lot of socialist parties banned, under Zelensky. And even socials parties can simply be tied to Marxism in its initial form.
So simply claiming he is a nationalist and just uses symbols of the past doesn't really show the entire roadmap.
The problem is that people like you think the concentration camps will suddenly open again, yet when we apply this to the opposite ideology which most people
seems to support it suddenly is ok. In general socialism had a higher body count yet people in this day and age seem to praise it and the mainstream are ok with it.
Me. And other Ukranians. As a former Ukranian. There is a reason why most normal people left the country, and only people who can't, or who wants to participate are left. It saddens to see my homeland turning into this shithole
Its corruption is its Achilles heel on why there will never be a Nazi scare there, they barely had guns until moronic leftist needed another one of their agenda's filled.
But then again you name Ukraine a shithole, but the west is slowly turning into the same one, so simply thinking other countries under globalism are better is a delusion.
You are projecting hardcore here my dude.
No need to project, seeing as you need an obscure forum like this to get free speech or else your lovely globalist leaders and their NKVD will come and silence you for not
speaking their party lines. Seeing as they want more and more control under the idea of progressivism and not to forget trying to disown the farmers of their lands like
under the Stalinist era. Not to mention enforced indoctrination in school with delusional progressive ideologies.
First of all make up your mind, is it me being delusional and there is no ultra-nationalists or they are absolute minority, or there is and they can run their country as they want.
You are blind to actual problems, you actually brainwashed my dude. They are glorifying the actual nazi collaborator as a hero. Dude who participated in genocide. Learn history maybe.
Dude, there is ultra nationalism, but it's nowhere the delusional state you're making it out to be. I got a love your delusional claims that it's big, yet the white population is declining and
the re-population in general is taking place yet nothing major has yet happened. Funny how the so-called minority in the west is doing the most of the killing, yet you barely see any white supremacist coming out of the woodwork even when there were two that tried to start a race war failed miserably in their efforts.
The only thing you seem to be doing is seeing shadows of the past, thinking they're real. Even when there were claims of rising right wing activity in the U.S. most claims of racism turned out out to be fake and nothing more than a grifters way to make money.
You know delusion of documented and factual information of openly ultra-nationalistic organizations, and goverment complicit in glorification of Nazism. Maybe its you need to check your brain? But projection is pretty normal for you i see.
Simply stating something about a minority doesn't mean there is suddenly a German Reich waiting to pop-up. In the west in school they glorify Marxism, an even more deadly ideology and
I see little fear behind that yet the whole mainstream media and the left seem to love that shit without looking at its effects.
Me looking at the state of Ukraine since 2003... Sure pumpkin. Sure.
And you call me delusional? You are an uneducated buffon, who have no idea what he is talking about. Ukranian Ultra-Nationalism has NOTHING to do with whatever is you screaching about. It has roots in their seperatist movement, and subsequent finger pointing at anyone else to blame for their problem. Its not crippling poverty, corruption, mismanagment... Its fucking polaks, europeans, moskalies to blame for our problems, never us. Educate yourself you idiot.
Dude, you're like the mainstream media that needs something to virtue signal about because it didn't turn out they way you wanted it to. Even now when the whole Ukrainian army is being obliterated and barley would have any military strength left in the end, you can scream nothing but the Reich his coming back!! And I'm triggered because of symbolism.
Ukraine will never be a powerhouse in any forms because of its corruption. Even when Azov was at full military strength they only counted for about 900 to 2,500 combatants in 2017–2022
Yet you keep seeing more connection than there are, and yet the people of Ukraine didn't vote for them when they ran for a seat.
Like I said, you're seeing shadow out to kill you... you delusional fuck!
Do you have anything smart to say, or just yapping?
I'm not seeing you saying anything smart other than what the mainstream hasn't sold people on, and not to forget digging up a ghost from the past.
Even your so called the Rich is coming back is nothing, but you're speculating about a small group of people. In my country, there were extreme people in the
cabinet, and yet nobody gave a fuck and nothing changed.
Interesting fantasy based on real facts and reality of the country. Sure.
It's your fantasy, not mine...
Hypocrisy and the west. Nothing new. You are actually brainwashed, by media who is trying to white wash ukranians ultra-nationalists.
No, I'm just not thinking that the past will not repeat itself because they aren't the majority of the world. Even in my country, the right wing parties are automatically labeled as Nazi's
For not supporting the retarded globalist agenda of diversity, yet only diversity in the west while Africa and yet all other Third World countries are monocultures.
Yeah, because its your fantasy. I never called anything third reich, i just point out to real organizations operating in Ukraine, and real historical facts about Ukraine. Sorry if its inconviniance your strawman of me.
Regardless of those facts and you're making it out to be bigger than they are and that makes you delusional, it's like the media screaming at everything even remotely right as Nazi's.
But even suggesting that seems to trigger you into the beyond...
Crazy for seeing the result of globalism? Being dragged into a war nobody in the west wanted other than our leaders? Not to mention The slow degradation of our free speech is more than enough to show how we're turning more into a control society. Not to mention rich countries being burden under the debt of corrupt countries like Ukraine.
Clearly you are caring, but when there is ukranian who is against how shit is going you are losing your shit over it. YOu know you can run your country hovewer your want except not the way i disagree with. Hypocrite.
I'm not losing my shit, more tired of morons thinking the world is full of Nazi's not to mention thinking Azov is something big. The only thing you're doing is connecting a handful of people and claiming there is a bigger agenda. You don't agree what your country is doing, yet you run away and then complain without even bothering to make a change yourself? Pretty hypocritical if you ask me.
Geniunely brain dead take. People care. Its not a lot you can do to rectify this.
Not really if you take into account there are more Muslim committing genocide right now and all you come with is a ghost from the past claiming that ghost is going to be the bigger danger.
Bullshit notion when you take into account the world isn't full of Nazi's and the majority of people are Muslims and Asians, yet you come crying about a future minority as the major boogeyman.
You clearly giving a fuck, with how much words you just typed out.
It's more that I want to be clear and not give a short boring answer claiming I'm simply right like you did. The fear of the new Reich you have is even more hilarious, hence why I keep mentioning it.
Its not trivial for millions of people. It just trivial for you, because your lack of understanding of actual conflict and sympathy to victims.
It's pretty much trivial why they are actually dying, when you take into account that this war is just for more minerals, and they are simply dying so that Europe can use claim those for the cost of the war. The real reason for the war is the trillions of dollars worth of minerals in the ground. But the main question would be who is really to blame for the war, seeing as Europe kept baiting Ukraine for membership regardless of older accords being made.
What washing Ukranian ultra-nationalism is a bs media sold to the simple-minded people... Like you. And you are eating it.
Not really, I know what AZOV stood for, but I would rather see it's true effect instead of making judgement because of something from the past. If the symbolism is just something in the sense of national pride I would see no actual problem and the true problem would be if they acted like those in the past. Hence, why simply being right wing nowadays gets you the Nazi label by the left. I always knew about how the Ukrainian willfully participated in the persecution of the Jews during WW2, but you can't always expect everything to be as it seem, seeing as education is key and not everything automatically state fed.
This basically would be equal to the left wing Marxist in the west pushing their gender ideology and Marxist crap yet for some reason that seems to be fully supported by the state as normal these days. And it's damaging a whole new generation.
Objection. Relevancy? And yes Ukraine cleared their shit in the coutnry so well... Where are we in the corruption and crime rate. HOLY SHIT.
The point being that the Nazi label is easily used nowadays against anybody you don't agree with when you're from the politically left spectrum.
We got it boys! I knew you would say that shit "but muh rosia". Well, the only proof of that is ONE photo and even source of that photo is saying "alleged" photo of that guy.When even the FUCKING SOURCE is telling you that they are not sure, its telling that you are being lied to with plausible deniability. Congratulation, you are legit brainwashed. What else you gonna bring? Trophy jacket?
Funny how me just correcting a dude because Japan is nowhere close to the state of Ukraine in terms of Ultra-nationalism, xenophobia and corruption, which is true, factually fucking true. Prompted this kind of response from you. And you are saying i'm a triggered snowflake.
No I used that example of you worry about Ukraine, but both Russia is in the same league as Ukraine so as nation they are very much alike. But people love to only use Ukraine as the Nazi boogeyman. No there were many docs about the rise of right wing extremism in Russia you're planning to force us to fight that war too? Because you seem to think that's the biggest threat of this era. A simple solution for this is let countries run themselves however they like, instead of imposing your will on them.
Ukraine chose which path it wanted to follow, and it seems you are more triggered that it didn't conform to your will.