japanese political party and russia via the u.n trying to censor anime fanservice of under -18s

[Scornful Gaze]

From my understanding, these conventions have to meet a consensus of all signatories. Given that the US cannot actually enforce Russia's or the Aussie's definitions and Japan's reluctance on everything but the most draconian copyright measures (they're bringing their share of garbo to the floor), I'm still only miffed rather than in panic mode for the reasons I've stated earlier in the thread. Still, if you're concerned and live in either Russia or Austrailia, you know what you can do.

This whole thing is insanely unpopular outside of these sections. I'd be surprised if the new proposal gets ratified even in a lukewarn form. Brazil and the UK are already moving to strike the mandatory language from the bill, and the US opposed expanding the scope of existing definitions. Or so I have read.

 

[Cursed]

From my understanding, these conventions have to meet a consensus of all signatories. Given that the US cannot actually enforce Russia's or the Aussie's definitions and Japan's reluctance on everything but the most draconian copyright measures (they're bringing their share of garbo to the floor), I'm still only miffed rather than in panic mode for the reasons I've stated earlier in the thread. Still, if you're concerned and live in either Russia or Austrailia, you know what you can do.

This whole thing is insanely unpopular outside of these sections. I'd be surprised if the new proposal gets ratified even in a lukewarn form. Brazil and the UK are already moving to strike the mandatory language from the bill, and the US opposed expanding the scope of existing definitions. Or so I have read.

UE didn't want ratified too. they think is to much for the liberty and they propably never ratified a russian text.

 

[blackjack]

the irony of Russia in this video some random polish anon user showed me on 4chan /pol/.

Had lolis and shotas before it was cool I guess? Probably the 90s but dont know source of video.

 

[grapedApe]

The cybercrime treaty bs is flaring up again. It's looking like loli may die this year.

deepl
[518th] Bad Facts ・・・・ New Cybercrime Convention to be submitted to the UN General Assembly the year after next. What will happen to Japan's proud freedom of expression! (2022/12/28 #Taro Yamada's Sanchan Channel

This new treaty will ban not only pictures, but also fictional depictions, including audio and text, and threaten the secrecy of communications.

I hope the people who are screaming that their information will be extracted by the my number card make a lot of noise about the new cyber treaty because it's even worse!

I think there's a possibility that child-faced porn stars/actors will also be nixed because "if they look underage, they're out".

If you look underage, you're out, so any illustration, image, video, or audio is punishable if it's perceived as a sexual depiction of a minor, not their actual age

Quit with the vague definitions.

At least make "actual age" the minimum requirement and leave out non-existence.

Even if it's not in domestic law, if you sign a treaty, it will take effect!

"Treaties are treated above the law."

In other words, if the rogue states get their way in the UN and international affairs and get a treaty signed, there will be no freedom of expression!

This is why Russia, China, Syria, Iran, etc. are actively involved in the new cybercrime treaty.

 

[Hexasheep93]

This is concerning. That said treaties arent really treated about the law. Hell just look at all the current treaties ain the UN. Less than half the signatories follow them

 

[grapedApe]

Considering how much shit we've had tossed our way this year I'm not willing to place optimism on "they're lazy". There's politicians in japan that want all lewds of under 18 characters banned to fellate foreigner sensibilities and I seriously doubt they'll stay quiet once their weapon is functional.

 

[Narmy]

What will happen to Japan's proud freedom of expression!

That is a strange thing to say when Japan doesn't even have freedom of expression. That's part of the reason that he even got elected.

 

[grapedApe]

The shitshow (the 4th of 7 draft text negotiations) has started

EFF and Partners Call Out Threats to Free Expression in Draft Text as UN Cybersecurity Treaty Negotiations Resume

EFF is attending this week and next a new round of negotiations over the proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty to raise concerns that draft provisions now on the table include a long list of content-related crimes that pose serious threats to free expression, privacy, and the legitimate activities of...

www.eff.org

We can expect some major problems for freedom of expressions next year.

 

[Hexasheep93]

The shitshow (the 4th of 7 draft text negotiations) has started

EFF and Partners Call Out Threats to Free Expression in Draft Text as UN Cybersecurity Treaty Negotiations Resume

EFF is attending this week and next a new round of negotiations over the proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty to raise concerns that draft provisions now on the table include a long list of content-related crimes that pose serious threats to free expression, privacy, and the legitimate activities of...

www.eff.org

We can expect some major problems for freedom of expressions next year.

Well at least people are making their concerns known, also is there a reason why there are 7 draft negotiations? Is that to follow some law or regulation?

 

[Cursed]

The shitshow (the 4th of 7 draft text negotiations) has started

EFF and Partners Call Out Threats to Free Expression in Draft Text as UN Cybersecurity Treaty Negotiations Resume

EFF is attending this week and next a new round of negotiations over the proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty to raise concerns that draft provisions now on the table include a long list of content-related crimes that pose serious threats to free expression, privacy, and the legitimate activities of...

www.eff.org

We can expect some major problems for freedom of expressions next year.

like some people i am "cautiously optimistic".

https://nitter.varishangout.net/SaintFelixVI and https://nitter.varishangout.net/RadioactiveLT make a thread and discuss about that if you want follow what country say or did.

 

[Deleted User]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613265722574262273

Romly@C101 土曜日 西せ03a on Twitter: "Since this Himasora went viral, whi…

archived 12 Jan 2023 02:54:40 UTC

archive.md

Would love to hear what's happening from Japanese since I'm quite confused

 

[Cursed]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613265722574262273

Romly@C101 土曜日 西せ03a on Twitter: "Since this Himasora went viral, whi…

archived 12 Jan 2023 02:54:40 UTC

archive.md

Would love to hear what's happening from Japanese since I'm quite confused

is collabo a group of anti-anime , anti porno group , if you want more info check this account https://nitter.varishangout.net/yyposi918/status/1613349821548761088#m

 

[grapedApe]

Reading rayforcegame's twitter thread on this it's china pushing hard for the "make hentai/ecchi of loli/under 18 characters illegal" bullshit. Not surprised, I always expected china to want to eliminate the competition especially after they neutered their own "anime" with retarded censorship that basically only allows some cleavage from girls 18+.

 

[Hexasheep93]

Reading rayforcegame's twitter thread on this it's china pushing hard for the "make hentai/ecchi of loli/under 18 characters illegal" bullshit. Not surprised, I always expected china to want to eliminate the competition especially after they neutered their own "anime" with retarded censorship that basically only allows some cleavage from girls 18+.

Can you link the thread/archive?

 

[Cursed]

Can you link the thread/archive?

＜レイフォース＞ (@rayforcegame)

https://media.un.org/en/asset/k1x/k1xrzjercx My English skill is not enough. So please correct me if I'm wrong. In this video around 50:30～51:30,China seemingly suggest to include manga and anime into CP. On top of that,they want to delete "reservation". Repeat,please correct me if I'm wrong...

nitter.varishangout.net

anyways EU and USA are against and australia ( yes them ) want add reservation for japan
russia say nothing only china attack manga
majority want reservation so japan can be fine too.
actually is really fine for anime/manga

St. Felix VI (@SaintFelixVI)

update from cybercrime convention: many big players aka USA and EU wanted to remove drawings and writing some wanted to remove appearing like India and Australia wanted a revamp but had a reservation for “a real person “ only china directly attacked manga to add cartoon,manga etc

nitter.varishangout.net

 

[Hexasheep93]

＜レイフォース＞ (@rayforcegame)

https://media.un.org/en/asset/k1x/k1xrzjercx My English skill is not enough. So please correct me if I'm wrong. In this video around 50:30～51:30,China seemingly suggest to include manga and anime into CP. On top of that,they want to delete "reservation". Repeat,please correct me if I'm wrong...

nitter.varishangout.net

anyways EU and USA are against and australia ( yes them ) want add reservation for japan
russia say nothing only china attack manga
majority want reservation so japan can be fine too.
actually is really fine for anime/manga

St. Felix VI (@SaintFelixVI)

update from cybercrime convention: many big players aka USA and EU wanted to remove drawings and writing some wanted to remove appearing like India and Australia wanted a revamp but had a reservation for “a real person “ only china directly attacked manga to add cartoon,manga etc

nitter.varishangout.net

Well thats good at least.

Tho I do wonder how much it is them being against it for the sake of freedom of expression or because its china the one suggesting it

 

[Cursed]

Well thats good at least.

Tho I do wonder how much it is them being against it for the sake of freedom of expression or because its china the one suggesting it

well most of EU have important freedom of art so they can't concede something like that like US.
for me is the only good news for me since 2 years about internet policy specialy in EU.
anyways the cybercrime is not good at himself for our liberty , sometime i'm tired about authoritarian tendency since 2016 about interne.

 

[grapedApe]

Media Briefing: Proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty Negotiations Headed in Troubling Direction, Sidestepping Human Rights Protections and Threatening Free Expression, EFF and Allies Warn

San Francisco—On Thursday, April 13, at 10:00 am Pacific Time (1:00 pm Eastern Time, 7 pm CEST), experts with Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and four international allies will brief reporters on the grave threat to human rights posed by ongoing UN Cybercrime Treaty negotiations that could...

www.eff.org

EFF is saying none of this has gotten any better but they're mostly referring to "misinformation" and "hate" speech being banned coupled with worse internet surveillance to prosecute it, I don't know if the 'include fiction under cp crimes' part has gotten worse or they accepted the already unacceptable terms.

 

[Cursed]

Media Briefing: Proposed UN Cybercrime Treaty Negotiations Headed in Troubling Direction, Sidestepping Human Rights Protections and Threatening Free Expression, EFF and Allies Warn

San Francisco—On Thursday, April 13, at 10:00 am Pacific Time (1:00 pm Eastern Time, 7 pm CEST), experts with Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) and four international allies will brief reporters on the grave threat to human rights posed by ongoing UN Cybercrime Treaty negotiations that could...

www.eff.org

EFF is saying none of this has gotten any better but they're mostly referring to "misinformation" and "hate" speech being banned coupled with worse internet surveillance to prosecute it, I don't know if the 'include fiction under cp crimes' part has gotten worse or they accepted the already unacceptable terms.

no but is still a problem , UN cyber crime treaty is not only a shit things for loli but for the whole internet in general.
what i understand for loli we need to wait an other meeting ( September not sure )

 

[grapedApe]

Latest Draft of UN Cybercrime Treaty Is A Big Step Backward

A new draft of the controversial United Nations Cybercrime Treaty has only heightened concerns that the treaty will criminalize expression and dissent, create extensive surveillance powers, and facilitate cross-border repression. The proposed treaty, originally aimed at combating cybercrime, has...

www.eff.org

So this bullshit hasn't gotten any better. If what EFF is saying is true then whatever progress made before was erased November 28th so I have to assume that a bunch of countries, possibly america too, will be coming after us for enjoying loli hentai and japan will be forced to bend to their will. Some corrections against that assumption are desperately desired if any exist.