japanese political party and russia via the u.n trying to censor anime fanservice of under -18s

[grapedApe]

From russia through the u.n

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1492792339110064135

and from the social democratic party of japan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494852153805918212

Both want to ban fictional "minors" in sexual situations. That fucks over thousands of anime/manga/games including "everyone's" current seasonal darling Sono Bisque Doll (Marin is 15-16) as well as all of your(twitter's) hypocritical exceptions to your prudishness.

We can't get a goddamn break. Add in all the privacy violating shit being pushed, where the fuck we would go. For years I've heard no one listens to the u.n but it sounds like everyone involved will have to comply with this cybercrime treaty.

 

[Hexasheep93]

From russia through the u.n

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1492792339110064135

and from the social democratic party of japan

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1494852153805918212

Both want to ban fictional "minors" in sexual situations. That fucks over thousands of anime/manga/games including "everyone's" current seasonal darling Sono Bisque Doll (Marin is 15-16) as well as all of your(twitter's) hypocritical exceptions to your prudishness.

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We can't get a goddamn break. Add in all the privacy violating shit being pushed, where the fuck we would go. For years I've heard no one listens to the u.n but it sounds like everyone involved will have to comply with this cybercrime treaty.

I dont know enough about this to say how bad it is I know we have some users from Japan so maybe they can offer some input

 

[strawberryicecoffee]

The U.N. should be caring about actual children but fictional lives matter more I guess

 

[loliglitch]

kek, fictional lives matter moment, child porn is when a person appearing to be a minor engages in sexual activity, what the heck

 

[Solar Blade]

the social democratic party of japan

Why am I not surprised?

The good thing is that this party is a complete nothing burger in the Japanese political system, they have about as much sway in making laws as my grandma and she's fucking dead.

Case and point:

They can barely scrape even 1% of the seats, they're a complete joke.

As for how Russia sees it, if it's anything like the previous attempts to put it into action it will go nowhere, it was shot down by America, Japan and Austria pretty quickly.

I wouldn't worry about this, the lolis are safe.

 

[Hibiki]

if it's anything like the previous attempts to put it into action it will go nowhere, it was shot down by America, Japan and Austria pretty quickly.

You have no idea of what you are talking about. Despite the complaints from USA, Japan, Austria and the thousands of emails we sent them to not fucking change it, they completely ignored it and changed it anyway, now it's in full effect.
The good thing is that part is optional, so they can't really force anybody, only suggest they change it. That doesn't mean it's nothing to worry about, as it can be used by your shitty local politicians to argue in favor of throwing people in jail over drawings. Actually that already happened in Japan with the Japanese communist party.

 

[American Kazuma]

Not surprised the UN is caring more about fictional characters than human rights abuses taking place in China and elsewhere. They are the modern day League of Nations (i.e fucking useless) but with more members

 

[strawberryicecoffee]

Not surprised the UN is caring more about fictional characters than human rights abuses taking place in China and elsewhere. They are the modern day League of Nations (i.e fucking useless) but with more members

Kim jong Un have an entire harem made of underage girls and no one does shit about it.

 

[American Kazuma]

Kim jong Un have an entire harem made of underage girls and no one does shit about it.

Not surprised the crazy fucker that started corona (yes for once China is innocent) would also be a pedophile

 

[Mr. Wells]

Not too worried about Russia now, seems like Putin has other destructive things in mind. Like starting wars.

 

[Scornful Gaze]

Negotiations Over UN Cybercrime Treaty Under Way in New York, With EFF and Partners Urging Focus on Human Rights

While tensions run high across the globe over the invasion of Ukraine, the world’s governments are meeting at the UN this week and next to find common ground on a proposed treaty to facilitate international cooperation and coordination in computer crime investigations. The treaty, if approved...

www.eff.org

Older article to follow up, but apparently there was a meeting in New York over this on the eleventh (may have been cancelled, I am not seeing a followup post on the EFF about this). but I can't imagine there is a lot of headway on many of the proposed amendments that Balarus and Russia brought to the table given recent events. These types of multi-lateral agreements take years to come to fruition, and there was already a lot of questions popping up on how wide the scope of the bill should be (we can't decide on what even constitutes a 'cybercrime,' many things proposed are already illegal without the aid of computers or technology).

You have no idea of what you are talking about. Despite the complaints from USA, Japan, Austria and the thousands of emails we sent them to not fucking change it, they completely ignored it and changed it anyway, now it's in full effect.
The good thing is that part is optional, so they can't really force anybody, only suggest they change it. That doesn't mean it's nothing to worry about, as it can be used by your shitty local politicians to argue in favor of throwing people in jail over drawings. Actually that already happened in Japan with the Japanese communist party.

To add to this, Austria and Japan's objections (seeing no need to expand the scope of child pornography law) and the US's objections are fundamentally different. On the federal level 'virtual child pornography,' which is what lolicon would fall under the definition of, is protected insofar as it isn't considered 'obscene.' See both the Ferber and Ashcroft decisions on this, as well as the three-prong Miller test required to meet the definition of obscenity. That is to say, the US cannot actually expand the scope of its child pornography law on the federal level without violating the first amendment and putting any proposed law into jeopardy. That is why the US objected. It wasn't a 'we don't want to do this (the DoJ absolutely would)' it's a 'we functionally cannot do this.' We're likely to see something similar here with the mandatory language being struck, as there is actually no way the US can stick to that agreement as it is written.

That assumes this even gets pushed through, the Russo-Ukrainian war might actually popularize the idea of encryption in the general populace and national security representatives. We're already seeing Telegram being given positive press and even Twitter rolled out a shitty onion site.

 

[Torment]

These guys never lift a finger to help real kids, they just want to "protect" fictional kids

 

[ジエントＰ]

Not too worried about Russia now, seems like Putin has other destructive things in mind. Like starting wars.

Technically it was Obama (who did Libya, Egypt ,and Syria too) who started it, and the escalation was coming for a long time when there wasn't a peaceful resolution to the conflict.

 

[Solar Blade]

I still don't think this is really going to amount to much in the end, laws like this take forever to get pushed through and that's assuming everything in the bill is agreed upon, bearing in mind the LDP in Japan tried to make a law to include stricter laws that involved possession of lolicon in 2011, they moved forward with the proposal in 2013 and a decision on it still hasn't been reached to this day.

Granted the way each country makes laws is significantly different but considering the current state of affairs I wouldn't worry too much, at least not in the near future.

 

[Kyou]

Not happening. They tried that shit numerous times before and never did anything.

 

[grapedApe]

Ken Akamatsu Highlights New Attacks on Free Speech

Recently, Ken Akamatsu brought to light a petition submitted to the Japanese Diet with censorious ramifications for manga, anime, and other fictional works made in Japan.

blog.jlist.com

Another petition submitted to ban loli, this time by the komeito party. I swear on my life these assholes are working for the west considering they keep bringing up the u.n's non-binding bullshit.

 

[Scornful Gaze]

Ken Akamatsu Highlights New Attacks on Free Speech

Recently, Ken Akamatsu brought to light a petition submitted to the Japanese Diet with censorious ramifications for manga, anime, and other fictional works made in Japan.

blog.jlist.com

Another petition submitted to ban loli, this time by the komeito party. I swear on my life these assholes are working for the west considering they keep bringing up the u.n's non-binding bullshit.

Unsurprising. Komeito is Ishihara's party.

 

[Narbray]

I don't know about russia.
but I don't think this is really something to worry about right now.

 

[grapedApe]

This cybercrime bullshit is still a ongoing problem

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1543173033355264000

I know it's very long, but please take the time to read it.
I also want everyone to know that something like Level 100 of the petition to amend the Child Pornography Law that was talked about the other day is currently being deliberated by a special committee of the United Nations, and it is a very dangerous situation.
↓(New) Convention on Cybercrime

There is a proposal (in Australia) to make it a mandatory criminal offense to produce, distribute, and possess creative works that depict not only sexually explicit material but also torture, abuse, and other cruelty to minors (under 18).
There is also a proposal to criminalize the production, distribution, and possession of creative works that depict not only sexual descriptions but also torture and abuse of minors (i.e., under 18 years old).
(In Canada, there was an incident like this.　

Russia is taking the lead, but countries with strong censorship and restrictions on their citizens are increasingly getting on board, and despite this global situation, the debate is moving toward the Russian side.
Even if they defend it to the death in Japan, it is inevitable that they will be shut out from the international platform if they are outed overseas.

The Convention will be in session until 2024, with the next meeting in August of this year.
It's a matter of a moment, so vote for the candidate who values "freedom of expression" in the Upper House elections, which end on the 10th of this month! (You can write in the proportional representation candidate from anywhere in Japan & write in your personal name!)
↓(You can vote for candidates for proportional representation from anywhere in Japan & write your personal name!)

Question 1: Why the fuck is anyone still listening to russia considering the bullshit they're pulling right now?!

And it's looking like fanservice of loli and even the hypocrites beloved HS girls will be illegal sometime after 2024. Fuck the 2020s. Got to start using indirect methods to keep it alive.

 

[Hexasheep93]

It sounds to me like unenforceable laws honestly