Discussion Sinder & Silvervale (potential partners or clash bound to happen?)

[Misan]

Sinder
Twitch 164k
Youtube 165k

Silvervale
Twitch 476k
Youtube 370k

Sinder's side:
While still keeping her ASMR channel, Sinder did removed her lewd patreon on it. While the reason isn't known, it could be gaining too much attention for it (and unwanted results, like content being stolen out of her content page, thus losing money), or someone (friend or TKO adviser) convinced her to drop the lewd gig... or she is making enough now as a Vtuber that she doesn't need to do the lewd content anymore to pay the bills. After all, people do porn content not because they enjoy it, but because they try to make some money. Nobody stays for the 'fun'.

Silvervale's side:
Some of her long-term projects are finally done, like the new animated 'intro' done by Tonari Animation. While a lot can be said about her as a Vtuber, she is consistent in her own way and make her projects happen. May not make her more successful or give her a boost in the audience, but she does seems to put work behind the scene (and TKO seems alright to provide for her what she was looking for).

 

[Misan]

Sinder
Twitch 176k
Youtube 172k

Silvervale
Twitch 477k
Youtube 370k

Sinder's side:
Took a chibi avatar for this month. Seems to have put a hold on her ASMR stuff - maybe the gained attention in this regard wasn't positive since she was a steady creator of them before. Won't be surprised if some unwanted comments/requests just made her go silent for a while, or she lost interest to it - now of all times. No specific on an holidays special hosted by her.

Silvervale's side:
Seem to be working on a holidays special, but things aren't quite ready for it - so delay on it may be possible - and health issues could keep her out of it for a while. Heard about another project for making a board game - of all things - but that seems quite the left field project, no idea if it is just gossip or if it will truly pay dividends for her. However, this series of projects being done under her name - and they aren't cheap - makes me wonder where she gets the support because TKO would have been more forward on promoting them if they invested that much on her stuff, unless she saved some of her early money gained in her career spike.

 

[Misan]

Sinder
Twitch 182k
Youtube 177k

Silvervale
Twitch 478k
Youtube 371k

Sinder's side:
2023 was a big year for Sinder: family showing up on stream, her going on multiple cons cosplaying as her own avatar and the huge increase of collabs with a wider range of indie Vtubers and from VShojo. More of what she did as sideline (such as ASMR) came up later on, but every spotlight she got from others, she was able to handle it properly, without any unecessary drama. While not a 'top dog' in the business in america, her social qualities (aka. not being a self-sheltered person) and consistance at streaming assure her audience she isn't done with this gig yet, which promise her another good year in 2024...

Silver's side:
Plainly, 2023 was a rollercoaster with too much dramas. However, since she left VShojo in spring, the same constant wave of drama seemed to have finally stopped around her... for now. While I'm sure she is glad of the decision, Mythic will not invest too much on her as Vshojo did before, as she doesn't provide enough to be worth the risk for any company to invest on a big project for her to become bigger and win more (but again Mythic is more an advisor or provider than actual company/owner of a product). However, that hasn't stopped her to make and finish projects of her own.
Her collabs became officially few and with the very limited vtuber/streamer she seems to trust.
While she seems to be a gem at taking care of her community and they seem to give it back with dedication, people have to wonder for how long can she keeps this up, as her numbers are finally starting to stale - took almost more than a month now for just 1k gain. The fact she still keeps at it does mean she haven't wasted all of her gained money, but again how long can that be enough. While not as bad as her 'friends', she have been less consistant on streams across the year (maybe not on her discord server), so again she doesn't work to prevent her ship to start slowing down/sinking. No one lives forever and change is the only fact, and that goes for her fans as well.

 

[naughtyfred]

Sinder was in Silvervale's chat today saying hi.

 

[Misan]

Sinder
Twitch 186k
Youtube 181k

Silvervale
Twitch 477k
Youtube 370k

Sinder's side:
Have started to play Okami HD game, a long-time favorite of hers... or is it Silver's ? Got her okami avatar for the streams, or is it... ? Outside of that, steady streams as always.

Silver's side:
Finally was back this week, after a long vacation of 24 days-ish (which is main reason her subcribers dropped). As far as I know, she still kept her community events active. Before the break, Silver have started to stream earlier than before, like 12 hrs in general from previous schedule. No idea if it is for health reasons, or to be outside competitors schedules (days of the week still a strech but there is a pattern), or she just aims for her community most active hours. Also, she started to call them 'sleepy soldiers', which makes you wonder if her audience got more than a few people with military backgrounds.

 

[Misan]

Sinder was in Silvervale's chat today saying hi.

Could explain why she is now playing the pokemon gun game that Silver is playing yesterday; palworld.

 

[Misan]

Sinder
Twitch 198k
Youtube 190k

Silvervale
Twitch 479k
Youtube 370k

Sinder's side:
Did a couple of music projects, especially a cover for Winter Rain from Sick Century, and got a good feedback from a member of the band and LittleVMills as well. Seems a way better result than what happened for her very first song. Steady streams, steady projects, steady collabs.

Silver's side: Did a Valentine's Day stream, with a new model based from her big contest from long ago, so at least there is some constance in her projects. However, she planned a lot of streams for the week after, and it seems to be all cancelled - outside of the rival Palworld contest but nothing is sure. On one side, it is annoying to see someone with so much experience as a streamer to not being able to manage even a little her own pacing. On another level, with her long winter vacation and some hints of personnal issues, maybe Silvervale's physical health (& also mental) isn't that great right now and her fans should expect some bad news to be revealed in the months to come.

 

[Misan]

Sinder
Twitch 206k
Youtube 202k

Silvervale
Twitch 480k
Youtube 370k

Sinder's side: Reached 200k landmark and celebrated it by playing mario kart with her audience. Did also an eyetracker stream - an original idea but not sure how much streams she can do before it gets old fast. Got punished often with hot sauce, so this may become a trend with her. Seems to make steady collabs with Fillian - whom was vocal against Silver for both her call out on Ironmouse and fangirling on Asmongold. Not sure how much water it will take for this to be under the bridge.

Silver's side: Restarted to do collabs with others beyond her chosen ones - though still not streaming them herself. Played Tekken against her audience, gifting freely some mouse cursors to her community and plan to make another video game for her community to play with. Heard she got a new lewd model incoming, as well as rumors she could go back doing voiced NSFW - but nothing is certain as it have been a very long time since her last done. While all that work hasn't made her numbers bigger but kept her community stable, the possiblity she could go back doing lewd stuff may actual show just how much money is starting to be sparse.

 

[blackjack]

as well as rumors she could go back doing voiced NSFW

I am willing to bet anyone here that the voiced NSFW animations she conveniently deleted a year or more ago she will re-use that audio for her supposed new NSFW animation projects. Only reason I have no interest in Sinder is she is dating her mod Red despite all the NSFW audios she did in the past. Silvervale has shown to be more ominous towards mouse, snuffy and filian than to Sinder. Maybe rename the thread, "Silvervales Menhara Attitude is bound for clashes with others?"

 

[Misan]

I am willing to bet anyone here that the voiced NSFW animations she conveniently deleted a year or more ago she will re-use that audio for her supposed new NSFW animation projects. Only reason I have no interest in Sinder is she is dating her mod Red despite all the NSFW audios she did in the past. Silvervale has shown to be more ominous towards mouse, snuffy and filian than to Sinder. Maybe rename the thread, "Silvervales Menhara Attitude is bound for clashes with others?"

It is very possible as it is hard to believe Silvervale would go back to lewd audio content. But you never know.
As for the ominous part, I guess past beef will make that happen. Sinder just happen not to jump or make any drama herself.
However, not interested in changing the title and make it a drama subject.
After all, V-Shojo (and ex members) drama section is for that.

Edit: If NSFW rumor true, wouldn't pass her to hire one of her underground-lewd voice actor for it.

Silvervale also decided to change some her community policy concerning the donators, reducing the accessbility of the highest tier of donators to 5k total.

 

[Misan]

Sinder recently was 'viral' for two things:

Her 'famous good boy' yandere ASMR reaching 1M views - with her cringe reaction to it; and

Her 'physics' on weebcon concert.