Lol this was the reply I got, these people are such simps man.
it's a forum, don't worry about itSorry for the blog post
you'll never know. The best you can do is judge online influencers for yourself, and when they do show themselves to be assholes distance and stop supporting them. Really the best any of us can do.This was kind of a black pill for me because now I can't help but wonder if my favorite vtubers are like this behind the scenes too
No reason to let it get you down (Unless you're a nyanners yourself ), unless you're purely out for profit and e-fame theres no real reason to join a group. You can make the connections/collabs and build your own corner of the net (Fanbase) on your own.and it killed my hype to become one myself.
Lol this was the reply I got, these people are such simps man.
aight so tldr: you're all meanies reeeeeeeeeeNearly all of you claim to be so denouncing of "woke S J W politics," gaslighting attempts at decorum, decency, and progress by bemoaning in imaginary moral panics with typical schlock buzzwords, while hypocritically engaging in plebeian ableist banter with seemingly every slur and insult under the Sun from here to Timbuktu. Parading and putting down others regarding intelligence is not so based, believe it or not. Despite all this, you still cancel her for past behavior, while also asserting preposterous, extreme claims that there is "no" principle in "anyone," which is beyond impossible and also ironic of you to state. That's not to also mention the accusations of low self-respect, her being bad, that villains are "always rewarded," "life sucks," because these are far from always being the case, even if by luck or our own making...that all is also so egregiously ridiculous.
Many like you claim this and that about "social media narcissism," feed the insecurity, complexes, and self-hatred in others, doing little to be publicly responsible for your unkind words or constructive in your criticism. Projecting hypocrisy, jealousy, and self-loathing much? There's hypocrisy and cognitive dissonance all around here, gentlemen. Possibly a circular firing squad. We've all supported or allowed gross things in the past, often by ignorance or force of society. We have to acknowledge our own and do the best we can at a time, regarding ourselves and others, about this.
This is all honestly concerning and a bit disappointing to find out some of this about her. I will adjust some of my interest, respect, and liking to her accordingly, and see how I may adapt in the future. However, some of the supposed evidence is missing, can be fabricated, may have even been spoken in joking or jest, which is likely a miscommunication/misinterpretation, and to totally or completely cancel her is just as, if not more evil, even though the vast majority of you seem very needlessly stuck in the past. While she may seem a bit skittish about the subjects you described, that doesn't mean she wholly denounces Otaku culture or even similar, adjacent subjects. She might have even changed her mind, or become more open-minded!
She embraces some level of an open, honest sexuality involving many kinks or otherwise mildly taboo categories/topics, and hasn't given it up yet. Some change or evolve over time, like you or me, and she seems to have somewhat. She may be more considerate and wanting to be a little more approachable, which many of you seem to sorely and utterly lack such qualities here. She wants to make a welcoming space, but that does not mean she excludes or looks down anymore on others with similar or relevant failures or sins, like y'all love to, as she can probably relate now herself. Even her current Twitch rules reflect this. I got timed out on a few occasions recently, but reading them I understood, changed the error of my ways, and carried on in better banter with chat. What a concept.
The problems in Japanese culture of acceptance and some measures of equality are tough, complex to go into, as I only know so little from others are more well-versed. However, many in these circles are aware, and progressive thought possibly being adapted slowly but surely there, if done in a non-invasive, not colonial way, is not going to ruin media, as it hasn't for us. Companies exploiting it? A little suspect and slightly destructive. However, it is not casting a pall, like you claim.
If it satisfies your sadistic, woeful, and hateful slander, on the topic again of self-respect, let it be known she has quite some exaggerated, undeserved large gobs of self-hatred pent up. This is probably partly because of unsavory, brutish, unforgiving characters like yourselves. She may need to be more public in acknowledging these past problematic situations or habits, but it does not give you license to be some of the most brutal bullies around. She is gracious and grateful to her audience and colleagues, while also entertaining.
Please reconsider your rude, unseemly behavior, for goodness sake! Especially not wanting to dox someone and then sharing way too much stuff anyway. Low blow, buddy. Some have the nuance to take both the good and bad of a person, see them as a whole individual. Learn and consider in larger, more detailed terms, for once. I am beyond upset with how hurtful, misleading, regressive, disgusting, and abhorrent this thread is that I made an account just to report you sorry, pathetic cowards and tell you what's what. This needs to stop, right now. I am sorry if I am also being uncouth or vulgar, but I am attempting to be as classy, gracious, yet honest as possible to win your respect and, more importantly, hear me out by trying to not be hasty, rash, misleading, biased, casual, unprofessional, or otherwise looking like I'm not worth your time. I better not have wasted nearly 2 precious hours of my life to address you all today, and I hope your time wasn't wasted, either. I took what actual, wholesome value you provided in your concerns, and here I exchange mine tenfold. You still have plenty of hope, as you care and think deeply enough to get this far, but are in absolute need of a wake-up call. Heck, I have plenty of room to improve, too, as we all once did, and still do.
HoloEn vtubers, specially the first generation, look like honest people.You know? I honestly gave Nyanners a second chance after she became a vtuber. In good faith, I thought she had chilled out.
After the Nux fiasco, I won't be giving her a third chance. Nor I'll be giving any of the VShojo girls a second one. I genuinely thought that Froot and Iron were cool, but now I realize they're just the same clique-driven people that originally made me distance myself from the mainstream weeab crowd. They seem to see themselves as influencers and not as entertainers, which shows that they're also terrible businesswomen.
This was kind of a black pill for me because now I can't help but wonder if my favorite vtubers are like this behind the scenes too, and it killed my hype to become one myself.
Sorry for the blog post, I don't have much to contribute outside of memories of Nyanners' 4chan days. Zero evidence.
oh we got another mention from Turkey Tom .
Overall a pretty good summary of her history go watch it