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Drama VShojo/Ex-VShojo/Mythic rrats

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Things might be more interesting down the line.
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I find it very hilarious on a personal level that Fillian has less Vshojo, ex-vshojo members following her on twitter than Nux Taku. And I feel somewhat pity that Niji has fell to the point that Pippa folded them tonight and will seem to enter another collab with Henya. Filian is already challenging Hololive members in terms of subs and Gura might have a reason to stream again or be competitive about it when Filian eventually will start challenging her spot because her ranking in terms of how long she was Vtubing deserves enough praise by friends and enemies alike. Filian might get a chumbud audience only due to the fact of her being a non-hololive member challenging Gura just for Gura to regularly stream.

-Hololive: Became dominant starting off 1st with major advertisements and they grew big on youtube.

-Nijisanji: decisions and management fucked up their growth. Hololive is a tough competitor on youtube right now, but it is still very questionable if they would have been bigger than Vshojo assuming the Vshojo members or large independent vtubers would have chosen youtube as their platform in an alternate timeline if Hololive took twitch leaving no survivors. Would have Nux chosen Niji members over the Vshojo members for helping spread the start of publicity for mutual benefits? Would have Nijisanji have made less retarded decisions if Vshojo was an easier youtube platform competitor than hololive?

-Vshojo: grew big because they were basically the only major vtuber company on Twitch. As much as the Vshojo members, large independent vtubers, Vshojo and large independent vtuber fans hate to admit it but they are very lucky Hololive didn't choose twitch as their streaming platform during the start of the Covid epidemic or it would have ended up looking this.
We would basically be living in an alternate timeline if Hololive chose twitch instead of youtube as their streaming platform which would be interesting to imagine.

-Phase Connect: sort of hard to grow big when you already have to compete against two companies that got a head start before you did on either platform. But their viewership as small as it is now isn't declining but gradually growing.

Possible Filian Drama

-Hololive or its members won't mention her name or try to acknowledge her maybe Mori would be cool with her since she was expressive about Pippa raiding her and talking to other agency vtubers like Ironmouse. I wonder if Filian might be the one to awaken Gura back to life to stream in term of being competitive again.

-Filians jokes or sense of humor will consider her far right or get her in trouble in some ways with twitter(Makes sense her saying Pippa was her inspiration for Vtubing), its rather a huge shock that Froot, Zen and Mel still follow her because it would be like Hasanabi trying to be best friends with Ben Shapiro.

-Ironmouse: both have still not collabed with each other and Filian is known well enough in wanting to collab with anyone just for the sake of collabing which makes it seems ironmouse doesnt want to collab with her. I heard this week Ironmouse has taken an interest to stream on youtube but that it got cancelled. maybe popularity and CCV numbers could be the reason ironmouse does not want to collab with her. Mouse has used Connor before to get Mori to basically say its because of their huge fanbase they have so many subs and viewers and considering she had in interest in choosing youtube this week is she wants to probably try to beat filian before filian challenges Gura on Youtube. Sometimes their CCVs would overlap the other as well

-Vei and nyanners not collabing or following her on twitter suggests it could be because of her road to popularity and CCV.

-Silvervale last time I saw her stream she was at 6.5k viewers or that its because of Asmon raids. She did collab with Filian before, but I have no Idea if she followed Filian before on twitter or not because she is not following Filian now. Filian randomly brought up what silvervale said about ironmouse on her twitch stream meaning she was in bad terms with silvervale to just go do that so there had to be some kind of fight between the two in DMs or on a voice call. Silvervale is well known for being a well known menhara only 2nd to Nazuna on Twitch.

Possible Pippa Drama

-Filian met her idol on her stream but Filian made the collab quite awkward in her own approach some viewed it as Filian trying to awkwardly flirt with her.

-acknowledged and in good terms with Mori.

-Got Hasanabi pissed off to retweet her drama on hogwarts, But I am assuming Hasan didnt choose to fuck with Filian(for her 4chan /pol/ joke ways) was because of OTK/Mythic connections, pikamee(when alot of people felt sad for her) and Silvervale because of Vshojo at the time.

-got Nyanners randomly angry to call her a pickme, no idea if Nyanners cooled down or not when she was streaming with aethel looking at vtuber wrestlers when she went OMG its Pippa.

-mouse personally exited a pippa video on her twitch stream which probably might have gotten pippa pissed when she heard about it saying some brazilian kid sounds like mouse in her own stream. No idea if this was personal beef or that iron mouse did it for nyanners sake since she heard she wasnt happy with pippa in which nyanners might have cooled down later.

-Silvervale follows pippa on twitter while Vei has no interests to know her or get to know her which makes sense now because of lack of streams or collabs with others.

-collabing with Henya suggests Vshojo is looking for closeness with other vtuber agencies especially with the ex-niji hires.
 

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I guess the timing of when I talked about Filian it would be a matter of time until some YT content creators might cover it as well because it's an astonishing subject.
Hope her growth doesn't start distancing other Vtubers from her because I feel like 2 major vtuber companies from 2 different streaming platforms with their big shot or ex-big shot vtubers that had an earlier start than Filian might have a growing envy. Keep in mind she is super open to collabs but we can't say the same for others even if she shares her viewership with them.

Besides having a big CCV on twitch her YT sub growth is probably for being class clown.
 

blackjack

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she tried youtube
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accusations are being made she uses bots for CCV by comparing her viewership to other vtubers like filian using YT. in case this thread link dies anyone interested can use warosu. https://boards.4channel.org/vt/thread/61765866#p61791987

Edit: I heard filian got a 5k ccv by not advertising or tweeting about it that she streamed on YT.
 
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Considering Haachama just had 120k viewers a day ago, it's certainly hard to tell how many people would be using viewer bots.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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she tried youtube
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accusations are being made she uses bots for CCV by comparing her viewership to other vtubers like filian using YT. in case this thread link dies anyone interested can use warosu. https://boards.4channel.org/vt/thread/61765866#p61791987
Two things to note here:
1. The Twitch audience is quite well known for not going to different platforms. It's like they lack object permanence. When you are not on Twitch, then you don't exist.
2. I've gotten way less recommendations on YT for clips of Iron comoared to a few months ago.

I do wonder though how they stream on YT. As far as I know once you are a Twitch partner you need to enter an exclusivity contract with them.
 

blackjack

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Although I included it in my edit. Mouse was advertising she was going to stream on YT filian I heard did it unannounced for YT. So a 2.3k ccv with mouse to 5k ccv with filian will probable cause a bigger drift between the 2. So I guess mouse might have an interest later to promote her YT channel more than promoting Connors.

I guess justice is served for the mouse/Connor clique.
 
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still looking for answers to this.
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Following responses I got
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Edit more to know info.
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Man I cannot believe I just found out about cookieswirlc today and she was that much of a monster in subs and viewership. So I guess Gura, Mouse and Filian fight for the EN 2nd place. while Pekora will have her own ranking in JP
 
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YakuInTheFlesh

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Man I cannot believe I just found out about cookieswirlc today and she was that much of a monster in subs and viewership
To be fair content for kids is just a different beast alltogether. Sure she has 20 Mil, but her views are extremly inconsistent one time she has a vid with 2 Mil views and another time shes has one that barely cracks 50k. Added to that you don't have a "fanbase" / "community".
Also iirc she was a kids channel with millions of subs before becoming a vtuber. I saw this quite happen quite a bit in other regions. Kid's only care about loud and colorful stuff and for kids channels VTubing was just a way to add more color.
 

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Oh yeah, I forgot about those channels that tried to use their existing subs to push into a market. That's why no one talks about them.

As for numbers, people always ignore the JP side of things. Pekora is super consistent in streaming and her viewers reflect that, nearly all of them sit at 300k views. She tends to stick to about 3 to 5 hours of up time, with collabs and gimmick streams being around an hour and a half. Going by released stats, even though she doesn't have as much airtime as others, her streams end up with the longest views. More people will watch Pekora's entire stream when compared to other streamers.

If Gura were to have the same streaming schedule, she would easily match Pekora's viewership numbers. Instead she just streams like 3 times a month and posts 1 video randomly. Her most popular stream is still her debut stream. Currently, Gura's entire issue is that she doesn't stream on her channel. She pops up regularly in collabs though, but good luck figuring out who she's going to collab with this week.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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If Gura were to have the same streaming schedule, she would easily match Pekora's viewership numbers. Instead she just streams like 3 times a month and posts 1 video randomly. Her most popular stream is still her debut stream. Currently, Gura's entire issue is that she doesn't stream on her channel. She pops up regularly in collabs though, but good luck figuring out who she's going to collab with this week.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think holo is holding her back, because she is the most subbed one and in a way she is the face of HoloEN and Holo in general.
They probably want to prevent any controversies when it comes to their biggest talents.
 

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Whenever I see the top hololive chart I can't help but feel a little freaked out. Poor Mori too is so down the list. I half expected her to be maybe up there.

I'm a bit behind on things.
 

blackjack

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CEO of Twitch has interests in Filian.(guess he watches her content enough to know the infamous filian shitpost of do a flip)


Apparently Filian had an interview with the CEO, where she announced her awards as well

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I feel like if we somehow shitposted Anthime into winning the hidden gem awards the panel wouldn't allow it but if it did the twitter meltdowns would be hilarious.
 
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This clipper is going to get himself in trouble with ironmouse. using back up image if it gets nuked from youtube.

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Russian and Ukraine language is not that completely different as poles talking to czechs and slovaks or serbs talking to croats, so technically 3 languages instead of 4 or sticking with 4 to not get cancelled on twitter.

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new shitpost meme on 4chan
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Edit: I already lost interest in the Vtuber awards thing. Because last time it was connor and Hasan shilling ironmouse, OTK shilling Vei, etc before the voting process began. To have the fairest Vtuber election in any awards show the date has to be unannounced where friend circles don't shill other friends before the voting begins to make the awards feel more genuine with no imposter syndrome.
 
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Got bored so I created a thread for the biggest 3 male vtubers that crushed unicorns on other fanbases to see the general knowledge of the /vt/ board.
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Vesper is basically more of a victim of the 3 only because of fanbase size.
Luca committed the worst crimes of the 3
Aethel which is why I put the topic on this thread seems barely known for others to give a good answer.
 
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What are the requirements to get nominated for the games awards? The only thing I can think of is that Normie shits love a sob story. I expect her to win and them making her sickness the main focus. Everyone else is a literal who. I think it might be related to this chart since she is the only one that can speak English compared to the above 3.
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Wonder if some youtubers will be announcing the drama.
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Pekora is also too anti-woke to even participate in any nominations hosted by the west.
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It's pretty much just the language barrier for normies. As for the outlets, remember, these things are run by people who hate anything Japanese. I still remember when Phil Phish publicly tried to shame a bunch of Japanese developers at a convention, and all the media fags agreed with him. These people will forever be jealous of the decades long streak Japanese developers and tiny handful of western devs had.

I guarantee mouse is envious of others like Pekora, Miko, or even Pippa. Pekora doesn't even have to do anything and she's gets more watch time than anyone else. Just look at that gap, nearly 10 million more hours watched with only half the amount of hours up. Hell, everyone above mouse has less uptime than her.

God, it's still so funny that she opened with sad girl shit with the whole "I'm dying" bullshit, only for PC to corner the market with a dozen sad girls.
 
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