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Drama British YouTuber heelvsbabyface dragged by leftists for criticizing Starfield's pronoun 'option'

immahnoob

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Why do you think I am being civil with retards? I never said to do that I said to not sound like a retard to people that like whatever you like, but don't advertise their stance. Those people can potentially be brought over to your side.
Gatekeep but also don't gatekeep. You are an idiot.
 

immahnoob

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I am saying retards should be kept out and good people should stay. Do you not agree with this?
I am saying that your method does not work, you "do not sound like a retard" by gatekeeping like the dude in the OP did, even if that wasn't actually the intent. You for example do not gatekeep, you live in some ideal made up world of yours where you think you are.
 

Rentaro

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I am saying that your method does not work, you "do not sound like a retard" by gatekeeping like the dude in the OP did, even if that wasn't actually the intent. You for example do not gatekeep, you live in some ideal made up world of yours where you think you are.
How do I not gatekeep? I push retards away and try to get the good people that keep their head down on my side. And I am only talking about the good one's that are already into whatever it is that I like. Personally I am completely against getting new people into what I like because the less people into the shit I like the better.
 

immahnoob

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How do I not gatekeep? I push retards away and try to get the good people that keep their head down on my side. And I am only talking about the good one's that are already into whatever it is that I like. Personally I am completely against getting new people into what I like because the less people into the shit I like the better.
You're a liar through method.
 

Lost Branch

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The funniest thing about the pronoun garbage is that the game completely ignores it. The npcs in game only seem to recognize which walk animation you picked. Nearly everyone in game just calls you guy/girl, even if they haven't seen you at all. It's fucking hilarious.

You can stealth kill someone and the people nearby will start screaming things like, "Where is she!!", "Somebody find her!!", they instantly know which walk cycle you picked.

As for the pronoun garbage itself, it's completely pointless in real life because the demand is about how people speak in the 3rd person. These freaks are so narcissistic that they're demanding to control how you speak about them when they're not around. If you were to speak directly to them, their garbage pronouns would never come up unless you're being overly polite. Even then it just amounts to sir/maam.

It was never about respect. It was always about control.

Also, whoever that heel guy is, he's absolutely right about the whole choice being boring.
 

Hexasheep93

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Ok

So lets get some things straight.

First. I think we can safely assume that everyone in this thread agrees with heelvsbabyface point about the pointless pronoun stuff.

Second the discussion is now about the tone and just how he made that point.

I cant speak on the specific video as I did not watch it. However I can tell you that, in cases like this, getting the normies to agree with you is definetly important, and yes that does involve trying to be more diplomatic.
I mean is not just "our side" that is suffering the from "poor optics", if you step away from the social media ecochambers you are going to notice that the "trans activists" insessant screeching and harrasing is starting to catch up to them with public opinion turning against them slowly but surely.

So if you really want to get rid of their nonsense you need to convince the masses that your view is the sane view. At the end of the day people are dumb and sweet words can be very convincing to dumb people.

Lastly, while I agree with his point. I dont know just how much going to bat for this guy is worth. I mean rant tubers, specially anti-woke ones have the frustrating tendency of stabbing anime fans in the back.
 

grapedApe

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Az/Heelsvsbabyface would count under normie anime viewer.

I've never heard him say anything on the subject of loli ecchi/hentai but considering his interests, nationality (from the UK) and the people he hangs with (Nerdrotic, ryan kinel, the other Friday night tights members) who have lightly touched on it (they don't like it but they haven't been demanding bans like connor from lotus eaters last I checked) I'd say he wouldn't defend it if was asked.
 

salty_apollyon

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Second the discussion is now about the tone and just how he made that point.

I cant speak on the specific video as I did not watch it. However I can tell you that, in cases like this, getting the normies to agree with you is definetly important, and yes that does involve trying to be more diplomatic.
I mean is not just "our side" that is suffering the from "poor optics", if you step away from the social media ecochambers you are going to notice that the "trans activists" insessant screeching and harrasing is starting to catch up to them with public opinion turning against them slowly but surely.

So if you really want to get rid of their nonsense you need to convince the masses that your view is the sane view. At the end of the day people are dumb and sweet words can be very convincing to dumb people.

Lastly, while I agree with his point. I dont know just how much going to bat for this guy is worth. I mean rant tubers, specially anti-woke ones have the frustrating tendency of stabbing anime fans in the back.
>Second the discussion is now about the tone and just how he made that point.
i call fucking bullshit on the "muh optics" game.
normies are fucking weak willed lemmings, they will follow whatever set of rules seems to be the strongest, no matter how "discontent" a normie is they will not do SHIT out of fear of repercusion against them, they are all cowards.

and if every time someone goes hard some other retard appears to be like "well ackshually you should've said it more camly" then this ""movement"" will just appear to be extremely weak and that it will crumble at any moment


the reason why troons are getting a bad image now is because they are going after kids and ruining peoples lives.

we arent fuckin doing that
 

salty_apollyon

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I'm noticing a lot of concern trolling about "optics" over this, from people who are ostensibly on our side. What the fuck is going on?
anyone that worries about optics bullshit is a fuckin centrist cuck, a subversive element trying to kill momentum or a grifter worried about his paycheck.

fuck them all

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Hexasheep93

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>Second the discussion is now about the tone and just how he made that point.
i call fucking bullshit on the "muh optics" game.
normies are fucking weak willed lemmings, they will follow whatever set of rules seems to be the strongest, no matter how "discontent" a normie is they will not do SHIT out of fear of repercusion against them, they are all cowards.
I mean I partly agree with you. The people calling the guy out are pretty much bad faith actors and crabs in a bucket just trying to get clout off the drama.

But as you said the normies dont like to stray from the set path, and right now the set path is the one catering to those online activists and other idiots. "Our side" doesnt really have the "brute strength" advantage in this situation and so, I think need we need to consider more carefully on how we make our points.
the reason why troons are getting a bad image now is because they are going after kids and ruining peoples lives.

we arent fuckin doing that
They have been doing that for years now since the early 2010s, people just let it slip because the mainstream media was on their side. The difference is that now people have lost their patience, with them after giving them so many years chance of changing.
 

immahnoob

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If that is what you need to believe to get through this then that is fine. And I'm sorry for hurting you dude I didn't know you were so sensitive. Starting now I will do my very best to be nicer to you.
This is how a woman talks, opinion rejected.
 

salty_apollyon

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I mean I partly agree with you. The people calling the guy out are pretty much bad faith actors and crabs in a bucket just trying to get clout off the drama.

But as you said the normies dont like to stray from the set path, and right now the set path is the one catering to those online activists and other idiots. "Our side" doesnt really have the "brute strength" advantage in this situation and so, I think need we need to consider more carefully on how we make our points.

They have been doing that for years now since the early 2010s, people just let it slip because the mainstream media was on their side. The difference is that now people have lost their patience, with them after giving them so many years chance of changing.
>"Our side" doesnt really have the "brute strength" advantage in this situation and so, I think need we need to consider more carefully on how we make our points.

and we'll never have it if we are always acting like hammers striking down every nail that stands out

>They have been doing that for years now since the early 2010s, people just let it slip because the mainstream media was on their side. The difference is that now people have lost their patience, with them after giving them so many years chance of changing.

partly but it's also because they have become so cocky they no longer try to hide it.
 

Rentaro

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>"Our side" doesnt really have the "brute strength" advantage in this situation and so, I think need we need to consider more carefully on how we make our points.

and we'll never have it if we are always acting like hammers striking down every nail that stands out

>They have been doing that for years now since the early 2010s, people just let it slip because the mainstream media was on their side. The difference is that now people have lost their patience, with them after giving them so many years chance of changing.

partly but it's also because they have become so cocky they no longer try to hide it.
The lack of strength is something I have noticed for awhile and I don't even mean the strength that comes from corporate and government support. Our side just doesn't seem that interested in doing fucking anything other than the bare fucking minimum. Here is an example of what I mean. When the retards see something they don't like they swarm the twitter accounts of the company that did it like fucking insects and post their complaints. What does our side do when we see something we don't like? We will do a quote retweet or make a fucking youtube video about it. Now what fucking company is gonna give a flying fuck about that shit? Why don't the accounts on our side with bigger followings try to get people to do something? The other side gathers together and hits shit hard why don't we?
 
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