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KiwiFarms gets thrown under the bus by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene inadvertently providing cover for Keffals

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Army of drooling imbeciles attack Free Speech Forum because people there said mean things about Keffals

VidMasterEon

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Who’s more likely to know what the fuck they’re talking about. A southern dipshit whose only experience on the topic at hand is a religious upbringing and a GED as his only credential, or an educated atheist with no such biases and a master’s degree in clinical phycology. Forgive me for my obvious bias but I’m going to listen to the one with the degree.
Modern scientific studies arent even worth the paper they are printed on
 

Mr. Suave

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Modern scientific studies arent even worth the paper they are printed on
To anti-intellectual retards, sure. If that's honestly how you feel then no wonder the right wing is so willfully stupid and bigoted. Academics don't matter to them.

I thought I fucken unwatched this damn thread. How am I still receiving notifications?
 

Hexasheep93

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I agree that it’s not a decision to be taken lightly. There should be a lot of consideration and forethought given to the decision to transition. The individual should be made aware of the cultural and medical issues that arise. It's in no way a rash decision to make and it should defiantly be a conversation between the individual and a clinical phycologist. And pursuing any kind of hormonal therapy or invasive procedures without medical professionals being kept in the loop is never a good idea.

But puberty blockers (I'm assuming that is what we're talking about here) are 100% safe as long as they're used with the correct instruction. All they do is pause the production of testosterone and estrogen. Once a person stops using the medication, the body begins production once more, leading to normal development. Making them by and large completely harmless. Your assertion that puberty blockers are dangerous is false. As is your claim that minors aren’t “mentally mature” enough to make these decisions. If that’s the case then shouldn’t the rate of transition regret among LGBT youth be through the roof? It ain’t!

The transition regret rate among teenagers who transition is around 3.8%. And that small number is normally attributed to bullying. Employment issues and discrimination are the leading causes of transition regret among LGBT youth. Not because they didn’t feel comfortable with themselves after transitioning. It’s the ostracization and violence of our culture that lead to transition regret among the LGBT youth. I estimate 1% of teenagers truly regret transitioning. 2% at most.

Let it be known. I’m not siding with Keffals, I’m siding with the research that concludes gender-reaffirming improves the emotional state of those questioning. But I’m sure even someone with a master’s degree in clinical psychology is an “ideological groomer” as you put it.

That is the kind of bigoted pseudo-intellectual bullshit is that makes conservatives the detached sacks of fascist shit that they are. Grooming accusations are what you shitheads slap on anyone that disavows your intellectually limited. None of the ridiculous fears regurgitated by you cultural warriors make any sort of coherent sense. A teacher educating students on queer or genderqueer identity does not make that teacher a predator or a groomer. It makes them an educator. That’s not to say that organized indoctrination of children doesn’t exist. But those are mostly by the right-wing freaks filling children with ridiculous conspiracy theories and long-debunked religious dribble. Not to mention all of the cases of catholic sexual abuse. I have no clue what makes a christian conservative of all people think that he can slap the groomer label on an educator when their reputation as groomers is documented far and wide.

Who’s more likely to know what the fuck they’re talking about. A southern dipshit whose only experience on the topic at hand is a religious upbringing and a GED as his only credential, or an educated atheist with no such biases and a master’s degree in clinical phycology. Forgive me for my obvious bias but I’m going to listen to the one with the degree.

I doubt such an undereducated dipshit that makes unsubstantiated claims about puberty blockers and doesn’t even know what grooming is would take even an academic’s words seriously. If sighting medical research by qualified clinical physicians is “grooming” as you put it. Then that really makes the entire science community a community of ideological groomers. In other words, educators are groomers. Best not to send your children to public school if that’s your attitude. Then again, people who frequent a forum like this rarely get the opportunity to breed. Thank god for that.

Anyways. My stance remains on the subject remains. it’s the individual’s decision. It’s their choice what to do with their bodies. Not yours, the government’s, or anyone else’s.
Why are you still coming here if all you do is mald at people?
is it because this is the only forum that hasnt banned you?:shinobu_kaka:
 

VidMasterEon

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To anti-intellectual retards, sure. If that's honestly how you feel then no wonder the right wing is so willfully stupid and bigoted. Academics don't matter to them.

I thought I fucken unwatched this damn thread. How am I still receiving notifications?
>anti-intellectual
so, what is your opinion on this guy?
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grapedApe

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null plans on having the site up by today or the 31st, no idea how cemented that is. Skimming his recent video null is dead set on remaining alive on the clearnet despite acknowledging KW can survive on TOR so I'm expecting that 7GB torrent to pop up sometime in november. Every time we thought faggels finally lost a new threat to aid the bitch popped up.
 
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Loded Diaper

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I agree that it’s not a decision to be taken lightly. There should be a lot of consideration and forethought given to the decision to transition. The individual should be made aware of the cultural and medical issues that arise. It's in no way a rash decision to make and it should defiantly be a conversation between the individual and a clinical phycologist. And pursuing any kind of hormonal therapy or invasive procedures without medical professionals being kept in the loop is never a good idea.

But puberty blockers (I'm assuming that is what we're talking about here) are 100% safe as long as they're used with the correct instruction. All they do is pause the production of testosterone and estrogen. Once a person stops using the medication, the body begins production once more, leading to normal development. Making them by and large completely harmless. Your assertion that puberty blockers are dangerous is false. As is your claim that minors aren’t “mentally mature” enough to make these decisions. If that’s the case then shouldn’t the rate of transition regret among LGBT youth be through the roof? It ain’t!

The transition regret rate among teenagers who transition is around 3.8%. And that small number is normally attributed to bullying. Employment issues and discrimination are the leading causes of transition regret among LGBT youth. Not because they didn’t feel comfortable with themselves after transitioning. It’s the ostracization and violence of our culture that lead to transition regret among the LGBT youth. I estimate that 1% of teenagers truly regret transitioning. 2% at most.

Let it be known. I’m not siding with Keffals, I’m siding with the research that concludes gender-reaffirming improves the emotional state of those questioning. But I’m sure even someone with a master’s degree in clinical psychology is an “ideological groomer” as you put it.

That is the kind of bigoted pseudo-intellectual bullshit is that makes conservatives the detached sacks of fascist shit that they are. Grooming accusations are what you shitheads slap on anyone that disavows your intellectually limited stances. None of the ridiculous fears regurgitated by you cultural warriors make any sort of coherent sense. A teacher educating students on queer or genderqueer identity does not make that teacher a predator or a groomer. It makes them an educator. That’s not to say that organized indoctrination of children doesn’t exist. But those are mostly by the right-wing freaks filling children with ridiculous conspiracy theories and long-debunked religious dribble. Not to mention all of the cases of catholic sexual abuse. I have no clue what makes a christian conservative of all people think that he can slap the groomer label on an educator when their reputation as groomers is documented far and wide.

Who’s more likely to know what the fuck they’re talking about. A southern dipshit whose only experience on the topic at hand is a religious upbringing and a GED as his only credential, or an educated atheist with no such biases and a master’s degree in clinical phycology. Forgive me for my obvious bias but I’m going to listen to the one with the degree.

I doubt such an undereducated dipshit that makes unsubstantiated claims about puberty blockers and doesn’t even know what grooming is would take even an academic’s words seriously. If sighting medical research by qualified clinical physicians is “grooming” as you put it. Then that really makes the entire science community a community of ideological groomers. In other words, educators are groomers. Best not to send your children to public school if that’s your attitude. Then again, people who frequent a forum like this rarely get the opportunity to breed. Thank god for that.

Anyways. My stance remains on the subject. it’s the individual’s decision. It’s their choice what to do with their bodies. Not yours, the government’s, or anyone else’s.
I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves. I'm a Yahweh Fetishist, your a Fetishist of self. I will ask my god to cast away your demons. you need to convert, anyone who disagrees is an sinner ignorant of god's word. I will not meditate on the holy stricture for you, for those who are too lazy damn themselves.
 
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Saibrah

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schizoposting
I HATE THE ANTICHRIST I HATE THE ANTICHRIST I HATE THE ANTICHRIST

null plans on having the site up by today or the 31st, no idea how cemented that is. Skimming his recent video null is dead set on remaining alive on the clearnet despite acknowledging KW can survive on TOR so I'm expecting that 7GB torrent to pop up sometime in november. Every time we thought faggels finally lost a new threat to aid the bitch popped up.
This tranny has like three fucking health bars.
 

Loded Diaper

varishangout.com
I agree that it’s not a decision to be taken lightly. There should be a lot of consideration and forethought given to the decision to transition. The individual should be made aware of the cultural and medical issues that arise. It's in no way a rash decision to make and it should defiantly be a conversation between the individual and a clinical phycologist. And pursuing any kind of hormonal therapy or invasive procedures without medical professionals being kept in the loop is never a good idea.

But puberty blockers (I'm assuming that is what we're talking about here) are 100% safe as long as they're used with the correct instruction. All they do is pause the production of testosterone and estrogen. Once a person stops using the medication, the body begins production once more, leading to normal development. Making them by and large completely harmless. Your assertion that puberty blockers are dangerous is false. As is your claim that minors aren’t “mentally mature” enough to make these decisions. If that’s the case then shouldn’t the rate of transition regret among LGBT youth be through the roof? It ain’t!

The transition regret rate among teenagers who transition is around 3.8%. And that small number is normally attributed to bullying. Employment issues and discrimination are the leading causes of transition regret among LGBT youth. Not because they didn’t feel comfortable with themselves after transitioning. It’s the ostracization and violence of our culture that lead to transition regret among the LGBT youth. I estimate that 1% of teenagers truly regret transitioning. 2% at most.

Let it be known. I’m not siding with Keffals, I’m siding with the research that concludes gender-reaffirming improves the emotional state of those questioning. But I’m sure even someone with a master’s degree in clinical psychology is an “ideological groomer” as you put it.

That is the kind of bigoted pseudo-intellectual bullshit is that makes conservatives the detached sacks of fascist shit that they are. Grooming accusations are what you shitheads slap on anyone that disavows your intellectually limited stances. None of the ridiculous fears regurgitated by you cultural warriors make any sort of coherent sense. A teacher educating students on queer or genderqueer identity does not make that teacher a predator or a groomer. It makes them an educator. That’s not to say that organized indoctrination of children doesn’t exist. But those are mostly by the right-wing freaks filling children with ridiculous conspiracy theories and long-debunked religious dribble. Not to mention all of the cases of catholic sexual abuse. I have no clue what makes a christian conservative of all people think that he can slap the groomer label on an educator when their reputation as groomers is documented far and wide.

Who’s more likely to know what the fuck they’re talking about. A southern dipshit whose only experience on the topic at hand is a religious upbringing and a GED as his only credential, or an educated atheist with no such biases and a master’s degree in clinical phycology. Forgive me for my obvious bias but I’m going to listen to the one with the degree.

I doubt such an undereducated dipshit that makes unsubstantiated claims about puberty blockers and doesn’t even know what grooming is would take even an academic’s words seriously. If sighting medical research by qualified clinical physicians is “grooming” as you put it. Then that really makes the entire science community a community of ideological groomers. In other words, educators are groomers. Best not to send your children to public school if that’s your attitude. Then again, people who frequent a forum like this rarely get the opportunity to breed. Thank god for that.

Anyways. My stance remains on the subject. it’s the individual’s decision. It’s their choice what to do with their bodies. Not yours, the government’s, or anyone else’s.
Aslo this long over due, here's my faggot-ass queer alignment list

Pro:

  1. Asexual ( like seriously i can't of anything to be angry about, they are more holy then us allosexuals )
  2. Intersex ( This is more important any troons rights, yet it's still perfectly legal to cut off intersex genitals at birth, which is honestly a worse humans crime then allowing minors to use HRT )
  3. Crossdressing* ( Tasteful of course, don't push children to do this and don't go out in public in ABDL sissy fetish dresses )

IDC:
  1. Pronouns ( like i don't mind using she, he, or they, But im not using any dumb ass "bunnyself" to refer to anyone
  2. Gay Adoption*( Not ideal, but i don't see why a single man should be able to adopt, but if it's two men it becomes an issue, Still a man and woman is ideal, i was raised by a single mother and she did the best she could, but she is not a father figure. )
  3. Sex Change************* ( Don't do it, you basically fucking up your body, the only reason i tolerate this is because cis people are also allowed to shit like tie their tubes, so at at that point it's dumb to stop at Sex Changes, though personally both are horrible things to do to your body)
  4. Polyamory ( Dumb but as long your only fucking over your life i don't care, aslo don't try to raise child like this)

Against:
  1. Egg Culture ( I swear if some shit head calls me an "boymoder" i'll make it 42%, either from them or myself )
  2. Minors destorying thier bodies ( Like okay don't care if a kid wants to wear a dress or change their name, they can undo do that if they want as adults, But HRT and Blockers are hard to undo. )
  3. Maps Zoos ETC. ( i don't need to explain)
 

Nehir

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I love anyone who pisses off freaks that try to preach monotheistic religious philosophy as if it's moral.
✨This post was sponsored by Polytheist Gang.✨
Seriously though, there are LGBT, liberals and lefties on Kiwi Farms. Go into it openminded and ignore any thread you feel is someone being singled out for being a lefty/minority (including LGBT people). Even right wingers like Richard Spencer, TRS Radio, Vox Day etc. have a thread. A good percentage of the LGBT people with threads are very extreme and usually scammers/really scummy in some way, you're not allowed to create a thread just bc someone is gay/trans.
 

Loded Diaper

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✨This post was sponsored by Polytheist Gang.✨
Seriously though, there are LGBT, liberals and lefties on Kiwi Farms. Go into it openminded and ignore any thread you feel is someone being singled out for being a lefty/minority (including LGBT people). Even right wingers like Richard Spencer, TRS Radio, Vox Day etc. have a thread. A good percentage of the LGBT people with threads are very extreme and usually scammers/really scummy in some way, you're not allowed to create a thread just bc someone is gay/trans.
Im semi Polytheistic, Atleast a "gnostic" sense, like i don't worship Zeus but i believe the old gods say something about Human Nature and or Jungian Roles. Otherwise i worship Yahweh.
 

Sloth_cult

varishangout.com
TL;DR: I hate both conservatives and liberals. I love the LGBT community. IRL harassment isn’t free speech. I enjoy Varis hangout but hope it’s not as filthy as KF. I would probably hate Keffals, but she did a good thing by shutting down kiwi farms.

Since there seem to be some KF sympathizers here, there are some things I want to make clear. I'm not liberal or conservative. I identify as a radical centrist. Mostly due to feeling unwelcome on either side of the political spectrum as not only do my beliefs tend to piss off both sides but also both sides tend to piss me off equally as much. First off, since most right-wingers think shit like homosexuality and transgenderism are cancers to society I should admit that fact that I'm highly pro-LGBT. Mostly because I adore a group that doesn't contribute to the climate crises by breeding another toxic human being that’s just going to contribute to the cycle of environmental degradation. But also, because I love anyone who pisses off freaks that try to preach monotheistic religious philosophy as if it's moral. Conservative Christians are filthier and more irrational than most liberals. By far. Conservative arguments usually involve nothing more than dishonestly cherry-picking data and leaving out crucial context to push their talking points. That’s what happens when the majority of conservative thought is driven by religious indoctrination and its acquired cultural biases. You get pseudo-intellectualism.

But while I support the LGBT community I'm not the kind of retard that denies a person’s basic personal liberties. While I’m for same-sex couples to adopt children. But there’s no way in hell that I condone putting children on puberty blockers or forcing the gay lifestyle on them just to increase the numbers of the gay community or for whatever other reason they may have for pushing their sexuality and gender identity on a child. Sexuality and gender are for the individual to decide for themselves. Not anyone else’s. And yes I said gender identity. Gender is a spectrum. Look at a fucken dictionary. And no, gender dysphoria isn't a mental illness. It means that you have a different gender identity than the one you were assigned at birth. The desire to convey your gender in the way you feel most authentic is a normal aspect of free expression. Mental disorders are defined as thought patterns and behaviors that make it difficult to interact and function as a member of society. I have a mental disorder. I have ASPD and it makes me prone to narcissism and a disregard for the feelings and opinions of others. That obviosity makes socializing and functioning in the workforce a challenge. People who identify as a gender other than what was assigned at birth doesn't make them unable to function. The only thing that makes it difficult for these people to function in society is baseless attacks on their character. Transgender people can speak, work, socialize, and function as well as any other member of society. They have a mental illness because you insist it's a mental illness.

Whether the facts I spew out my gullet side with liberal or conservative thinking is the least of my concerns. For the record, most of my beliefs side left of the political spectrum simply because facts just tend to favor liberal thinking. Do you ever wonder why scientists usually donate to democrats? It’s because democrats - on average - listen to the science community and are more rational than conservatives. Barack Obama topped the list, taking in nearly $18 million from scientists and engineers during his two presidential campaigns. And he was a hardcore environmentalist. Food for thought to the people of Varish giving me shit for believing in climate change. But none of this goes to say that I particularly enjoy the double standards of lefties. Liberals love to flog and demean Christians for the sexist fascism they're constantly pushing, but once you try to attribute those same criticisms to Islam they completely flip the switch and call me a bigot. I want nothing to do with that level of cognitive dissonance, so I try not to associate my name with liberal circles. And don’t even get me started on the attacks on anime and video games that they constantly engaged in. I'm sure we can all agree that we’ve all had enough of that.

But it seems the free speech warriors on this forum can’t tell the difference between free discourse and harassment. Truth be told I don’t know a lot about Keffals or what activities she’s engaged in. In all honesty, I only heard of him/her/it when YouTubers began mentioning the KF shutdown. But whether or not she’s just another dumbass cunt riding the trend of virtue-signaling social drivel, the fact of the matter is this is one thing she’s done that’s actually beneficial to society. KF didn’t stick to its charter as a forum for the “exploitation of the mentally ill for entertainment purposes”. They committed actual crimes. They targeted underage girls, attempted to brake into homes, and participated in swatting, real-world stalking, and mass murder. Don’t think for a minute that this was just about free speech, and don’t any of you dare try to hind behind it as a means to justify their continued activities. If I were to get a relative of Mitch McConnell swatted, break into a republicans house or spray paint "kill republicans" on the side of their home, I would be charged with a crime. None of those actions are protected under the first amendment. If Keffals has ever participated in such criminal activity towards some poor misunderstood scrub that has done no physical wrong to the world of the living then my apologies, that’s an entirely different matter entirely. But shutting down a trash can of a forum like KF is the one good deed she deserves praise for, and that feeling isn’t going to change.

Make no mistake. I’m a free-speech absolutist. Without it, we wouldn’t be able to speak truth to power and call it willfully imbecilic. Regardless of political affiliation. But the difference between the dumbasses here on Varish and the dumbasses on KF is that the people here aren't making a conscious attempt to engage in real-world criminal activity. At least I hope not. I’m still relatively new here and haven’t seen any signs of major criminal activity from you guys. Just typical right-wing baboonery. Which is tolerable. I hate the majority of Twitter SJW’s as much as you guys do so we have some common ground in that area. Not so much the whole fake news bandwagon. The fake news hysteria is the result of stubborn retards not wanting to accept anything that contradicts their political brainwashing.

Anyways I've said my piece. I'm unwatching this thread. Infer from this rant what you may.
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness and its can be treated through transition ofc that doesn't mean that you must be trans some people don't transition they live their life being a homosexual person and yes non binary thing is bullshit there is no third gender or sex
 

Sloth_cult

varishangout.com
To anti-intellectual retards, sure. If that's honestly how you feel then no wonder the right wing is so willfully stupid and bigoted. Academics don't matter to them.

I thought I fucken unwatched this damn thread. How am I still receiving notifications?
Sorry but left wing became more bigoted than anything else especially these days also most of the scientific organization feeded by far left ideology science itself not an ideology its not just belongs left wing like religion not just belongs right wing science is like a religion to left its became extremely cult like thing after the enlightment age. as a agnostic i trusted science in my young age and yes its important and valuable but these days i just trust facts not some liberal propaganda when i realised that i moved on left to center right
 
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