Happenings Kiwifarms in Meltdown Mode After Null Has a Sperg Out Over not Understanding Vtubers

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Jahy

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None of these clowns sit and talk down with the people consuming said content to see if it changes anything in their brains to make them more likely to do X activity that they claim that consuming the content does
Right. What's more convenient for them instead is to capitalize on the post hoc fallacy and isolate very niche and fringe cases of criminal individuals who did have some sort of connection to lolicon. It's much easier for them to use that the explain their behavior instead of addressing their underlying and likely extensive mental illness. So many people still want to uphold the kindergarten rules of "one bad apple spoils the bunch".
 

whyyes

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I was in the thread when he started sperging out, it made me kinda sad to see. Null is usually pretty based but he freaks the fuck out when he sees anime. I assume it's to hide the fact that he jerks off to neko shotas :laugh:
 

weanoob

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I stopped following 9chan past the loli/cp spammers, but didn't he sell/give-away the site?

What happened with that?
maybe I should just make this a general Null/Josh thread :zt-think:


That's true, you'll never get a big audience by allowing loli, especially on a small start-up site like Minds where it'll be far more prominent compared to twitter where its easily hidden in the background cause of just how big the site is.

Total free speech is more of a talking point than anything. Right-Wingers/altright (if I've learned anything from the pleroma :hinata-acid:) just want to hear their own voices. I honestly doubt any of them could give a damn about "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".
Wait what the fuck was 9chan exactly? I know about it from drama involving Heyuri, but I didn't know that KF was involved with it.
 

Halo

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Wait what the fuck was 9chan exactly?
imageboard owned by null

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Scornful Gaze

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I can't tell if this is just the core demoraphic of imageboards now, or if this (the later (sic) demographic especially) was some sort of pointed attack on myself specifically.
That first one; and not the core demographic of 'imageboards,' just the core demographic of 8ch. It was predominately a shithole outside of 8/a/ and /hgg/. 8/a/ only managing that because of its strict moderation that incentivized lurking. Like man, I appreciated the optimism but you had to have known that you were herding the unwanted embers of the toilet fire that was post-GG 4chan.
 

Halo

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Like man, I appreciated the optimism but you had to have known that you were herding the unwanted embers of the toilet fire that was post-GG 4chan.
Didn't they also heavily shill on 4chan?
I don't think that's exactly bringing the best imageboards have to offer.
The majority of users I imagine have either abandoned imageboards or found a site that fits their niche. Like /a/ users I'd think would've gone to smugloli. Also saw some posts from guys who just gave up on the webring and went back to 4chan.
 

Beginner

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Didn't they also heavily shill on 4chan?
I don't think that's exactly bringing the best imageboards have to offer.
The majority of users I imagine have either abandoned imageboards or found a site that fits their niche. Like /a/ users I'd think would've gone to smugloli. Also saw some posts from guys who just gave up on the webring and went back to 4chan.
I didn't spend much time around the webrings, but I do know Julay.world had something of a shitstorm in a teacup when they started kicking boards off after the whole 'webrings are the future of imageboards!' lecture.
Not surprised people are just past the point of 'fuck it'.
 

Scornful Gaze

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Didn't they also heavily shill on 4chan?
I don't think that's exactly bringing the best imageboards have to offer.
The majority of users I imagine have either abandoned imageboards or found a site that fits their niche. Like /a/ users I'd think would've gone to smugloli. Also saw some posts from guys who just gave up on the webring and went back to 4chan.
I know for a fact that a lot of 4channers ended up on discord at some point via migrating from general threads. Whoever is using 4chan actively now isn't the same group of people from pre-2014.

I didn't spend much time around the webrings, but I do know Julay.world had something of a shitstorm in a teacup when they started kicking boards off after the whole 'webrings are the future of imageboards!' lecture.
Why is it that so many of the webdevs who run non-corporate sites tend to go on this same spiel? 'Webrings are the future of imageboards!' 'Twitter users and facebook karens will use Mastodon if only we could drive off those awful coomers!' Do server hosts hand out free kool-aid or something?
 

Beginner

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Why is it that so many of the webdevs who run non-corporate sites tend to go on this same spiel? 'Webrings are the future of imageboards!' 'Twitter users and facebook karens will use Mastodon if only we could drive off those awful coomers!' Do server hosts hand out free kool-aid or something?
My theory: Risk.
A lot of webhosts don't like NSFW stuff. Places like Newgrounds get away with it because they're so fucking old they not beholden to others like that, they can just do their own thing.
 

nitwitsworld

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Null just needs to chill and just retire for his own good. Someone else will run his site for him. Look at 4chan's new owner?
 

Jahy

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Null just needs to chill and just retire for his own good. Someone else will run his site for him.
The problem here is that you need someone like Null to run something like KiwiFarms. Of course, I'm not saying you have to be an insufferable faggot towards things like anime, but rather Null's personality and commitment is what has allowed the site to not only remain up to this day but also flourish as it has. It's obviously taken a serious toll on his mental psyche, but that's just a nature of the position and less so his fault. Becoming a jailor of the damned in a world where literal governments hate you for existing is both a thankless and exhausting duty.

There's also the issue of determining who else is capable enough to be his replacement. I'll be honest and admit I don't anything about any of his jannies except one, so I can't speak to who would be viable or not. All I know is that years of legacy could be trashed by one single bad egg taking the reins. As cringe and cancerous as KF can get sometimes, the world really needs more places like it in a time when Internet censorship is becoming mainstream.
 

Halo

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The problem here is that you need someone like Null to run something like KiwiFarms.
When people like Null and Vis die its pretty likely their sites will go with them :gura-pain:.
Not enough autistic people to run sites like that, otherwise the fediverse would be a lot more populated, and we'd have more variety in sites than Twitter, Discord, and [Other social media site].
People just gotta take the leap, rent a cheap server and do their own thing again :mokou-lying:
 

Beginner

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When people like Null and Vis die its pretty likely their sites will go with them :gura-pain:.
Not enough autistic people to run sites like that, otherwise the fediverse would be a lot more populated, and we'd have more variety in sites than Twitter, Discord, and [Other social media site].
Sounds like you're a little worried about yourself there Halo :gura-pain:.
You alright?

People just gotta take the leap, rent a cheap server and do their own thing again :mokou-lying:
Takes a particular kind of person to take the plunge. Someone that's okay with the risk, likes being somewhat social and more importantly, likes being responsible for things.
Not always the most common combination.
 

Hibiki

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These sites are gonna die in a year and I'll have nothing left to live for :mokou-lying:


it doesn't take that much autism. Just a bit of free time and like 20 bucks to spend.
The sites won't die unless you decide to kill them or I get suspended on twitter, I find the second one unlikely.
 

erobotan

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I have never understood why people look up to Null or like his kiwi farm forum its no better than Redit. And he seems to be bad at knowing what is on his forum if a 1000 page thread can just go unnoticed.
I don't know much about kiwi farm but everytime i hear they talk about something they does sound like sjw-lite/sjw, drama queen ... and a bunch of doxing attempts. So my impression about them is pretty bad.
 
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