Source: 「ふゅーじょんぷろだくと ロリータ/美少女特集 81/10」
In this issue, there's a 6 page roundtable talk between the most influential and important members of Lolicon and Bishoujo manga history. There's a lot of information not available in English with few articles accurately covering the people involved, leading to much misconceptions that still circulate the western internet. Everything following this paragraph is my translation of the article in question with coloured translator's notes to deliver further info. Please keep in mind there are several different definitions of the word Lolicon, and in 1981, there wasn't a word for Otaku or a word for Moe or Waifu in regards to having a fondness for anime characters, so in these days Lolicon, Lolita, and Bishoujo were the words often used for expressing those concepts.
No matter how you slice it, Bishoujo seems to be booming. So it's for that reason we have gathered the 'authorities' in that field... Oh, the horror, the horror.
You cannot talk about Bishoujo without mentioning him. He hasn't been making much of a stir recently, but he's still stirring nonetheless. Some worship him as the 'God of Lolicon', clapping their hands in prayer, morning and evening.
(野口正之) Noguchi Masayuki (Biyoujo Mangaka) *Penname: (内山亜紀) Uchiyama Aki (Link); Current Status: Alive (His Books are Available Digitally).
No longer able to run or hide from it, a man who is unmistakably a Lolicon. Recently applied in a readers' column for the Shoujo manga magazine 'Nakayoshi', and was happily selected as an honourable mention for the C-class. Apparently, he wants to close up shop as a Lolicon mangaka to walk the path of a Shoujo mangaka.
(谷口敬) Taniguchi Kei (Lolicon Gekigaka) Status: Alive and well (See End Note)
He gave us a stern warning he will never allow us to publish a photo of his face, but nevertheless, we got him to let us publish it. His first public appearance... A brazen... No, no, a rosy-cheeked Biseinen Mangaka. After making his debut in 'Erogenica', he's currently writing for 'Daikairaku' at a serialisation pace.
(早坂未紀) Hayasaka Miki (Lolicon Doujinshi Creator) Current Status: Unknown
More than fact, rather it's a foregone conclusion even he who boasts sparkling talent in the Doujinshi world is actually a Lolicon. Despite being so skilled, he's a modest man who hasn't earnestly drawn for a professional magazine. He's working as an assistant for Murakami Motoka and Azuma Hideo.
(川本耕次) Kawamoto Kouji (Lolicon Editor) Current Status: Alive and Posting on Twitter (Link)
Has had Noguchi Masayuki draw Lolicon manga in 'Peke' and has had Azuma Hideo draw Bishoujo manga in 'Shoujo Alice', you could say he's the man responsible for the current boom. In addition, the phantom masterpiece Bishoujo photo book 'There's a lot of Girls in the City' is also his work. He's currently working hard, day and night, on ero-books over at Gunyuusha.
(蛭児神建) Hirukogami Ken (Lolicon Degenerate) Current Status: Unknown
Whenever Lolicon is mentioned, he's always ready to talk about it. The man is like a street guru. Dressed in hunting cap, sun glasses, mask, and raincoat that have started appearing on dummies all around. He presides over the extreme Lolicon Doujinshi 'Youjo Fancier'.
(藤本孝人) Moderator: Fujimoto Takato (Ordinary 30 Year-old Bachelor) Current Status: Unknown
Publisher of the long-established Mini-communication magazine 'Manga no Techou'. At first glance, he's a true and upright salaryman, but in this special article, he's revealed to be a jack of many trades. Talk about not judging a book by its cover. Recently, he's been subjected to a bunch of marriage interviews, but he has insisted he won't respond to any marriage interview photos unless the girl in question is wearing a sailor suit that fits his preferences.
■Are you a Lolicon?
──"Today's talk is about Lolicon, so I would like to start by confirming whether everyone is a Lolicon."
Noguchi: "I'm a Lolicon." (Blunt)
Taniguchi: "I'm currently working for 'Daikairaku'. So I'm thinking this while looking at the other writing members, but perhaps I'm not the biggest Lolicon." Manga Daikairaku: Link
──"There's always someone insisting 'I'm not a Lolicon!'."
Taniguchi: "At least not a violent one."
Kawamoto: "I'm a Lolicon. In the strictest sense of the word. Recently, there's been all sorts, like Heidi Complex or Alice Complex among other types. I'm just in it for the sailor suits (laughs)."
──"Next, while I don't need to ask, but..."
Azuma: "I'm different." (Blunt)
Everyone: "Not this again."
──"Well, let's leave the arguing aside. What about you, Hayasaka-san?"
Hayasaka: "Everyone says I have it, so it must be true."
──"Any noticeable symptoms?"
Hayasaka: "Nothing more than my trembling hands."
Hirukogami: "My dream is I want to hold my chest high and declare 'I'm a degenerate'."
──"What's the difference between a degenerate and a Lolicon?"
Hirukogami: "The difference is in action."
──In any case, everyone has been speaking their minds, but what about you Azuma-san?
Azuma: "Eh?"
──"Earlier you mentioned you're different, that you're a Lolicon during work."
Azuma: "... Something like that...."
──"So you don't love anime Bishoujo?"
Azuma: "No (laugh). Please don't ask just me; I came here to study what Lolicon are like today."
Hayasaka: "Ah—is that so?"
──"Though many people have awoken to Lolicon after reading Azuma-san's manga."
Azuma: "I don't know. Are there really people like that?"
──"Kawamoto-san has been handling Azuma-san's works for quite some time in 'Peke'." Monthly Peke: Link
Kawamoto: "I'm tooting my own horn, but I've been something of an important turning point in Azuma-san's life. I've turned the second-rate Azuma-san, who was drawing for Akitashoten and Futabasha, into a third-rate mangaka working for 'Peke'. Also, I had him draw Bishoujo manga for 'Shoujo Alice'. That was just turning him from an 'SF-mania artist' into a 'Lolicon artist', it feels like I'm changing him from one bad thing into something worse."
Azuma: "Ah, that's true (laugh)."
──"I believe Noguchi-san also started his career as a Lolicon artist in 'Peke'."
Kawamoto: "He made his debut with the 'OUT' newbie manga award. And it was then I was wandering around the editorial department of Minori Shobou, trying to devise a cheap idea to make his manuscript fees cheaper." Monthly Out: Link
Noguchi: "This is the man I first heard the word Lolicon from (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "Back then, it wasn't popular at all. But I had some interest in it, so I asked Noguchi-kun to draw it since he had the qualities of a Lolicon."
Noguchi: "I'm the type who's happy so long as he gets to draw girls (laughs)."
──"Though looking at what Taniguchi-san published in 'Pafu', his girls were already very cute since then. That's why everyone's always insisting you must be a Lolicon." Pafu: Link
Taniguchi: "There's a noticeable difference between what the readers say about me and what I say about me not being a Lolicon, they're on separate wavelengths. Recently, I've started to understand their side, so if the readers insist I am one, then I may as well give in and accept it."
──"Though I believe you have a fixation on drawing sailor suits."
Taniguchi: "Not at all. ... When it comes to sailor suits these days, the tops are fine, but I don't care much for the skirts."
Everyone: (Laughs)
Azuma: "Do you like short skirts?"
Taniguchi: "When it comes to skirts, I prefer midi, pretty much. The part where you can see half the knee makes midi the cutest."
──"I knew it, so you enjoy drawing those kind of works."
Taniguchi: "Well, I enjoy it, but... Saying that is enough to make me fine with this is a bit..."
──"So it's a forbidden pleasure? (Laughs)"
Hayasaka: "I wonder if the people being called Lolicon by society are people with little sisters. I've been wondering if that only applies to me."
Hirukogami: "My friend has a little sister and he's been writing a novel about violating a little sister with her name."
Everyone: "That's sick. (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "There might be some truth to that. Like a desire for a little sister."
Taniguchi: "True."
──"Something like if you actually had a little sister, you want her to be like this?"
Hayasaka: "I'm not conscious of it, but I believe it's there."
Hirukogami: "That would make everyone who has a desire for a little sister into a Lolicon. If I also had a little sister, I would do this." (Gestures)
Everyone: (Laughs)
Azuma: "Please behave yourself! (Laughs)."
──"In Tezuka Osamu's early works, he often concluded it with a 'become my little sister' 'sure', so now I'm wondering if perhaps Tezuka-san is the grandfather of Lolicon."
Azuma: "Ah, it feels like that."
Taniguchi: "Some parts of 'Phoenix' felt incestuous. Having sex with a little sister and mother, and creating a bunch of descendants." Pheonix by Tezuka Osamu: Link
Hirukogami: "The motif of incest is common in Lolicon."
Kawamoto: "I'm currently working on an ero-book, but I often write confession notes for that reason. Whenever I write a confession note for incest, I always talk about my little sister. I have an older sister, but no younger sister. It's probably because I cannot delude myself into doing it with my older sister no matter what. She's like a mother to me. The only things I can imagine that make for attractive material is stuff about doing it with a little sister. But when I think about it carefully, lines like 'become my little sister' are really raunchy ones (laughs)."
■Where are the Lolicon Civil Rights?
Kawamoto: "I believe everyone potentially has the elements of a Lolicon. It's only by chance in this period we have things like anime Bishoujo characters, Azuma-san's manga, and the Bishoujo Noguchi-kun draws."
Noguchi: "What I draw aren't Bishoujo. They're Biyoujo!" 美幼女 (Biyoujo) are anime girls younger than 美少女 (Bishoujo)
Kawamoto: "(Laughs). I believe there's places that grant social status where it's fine for Lolicon to be into that sort of stuff."
Noguchi: "Lolicon gained civil rights?"
Kawamoto: "In our current situation, suppose we have neither Azuma-san nor Noguchi-kun, nor the Bishoujo characters from Toei, how would there be Lolicon? I believe there's now places where you can publicly show you're a fan of Azuma Hideo as a Lolicon. In other words, couldn't you say we're accepted?"
Noguchi: "I went to a marriage interview the other day."
Everyone: (Bursts into Laughter)
Noguchi: "You see, the matchmaker introduced me to the other party as a mangaka. So the woman in question didn't have any further background information beyond that. And when we met and did our greetings, she asks 'what kind of manga do you draw?'."
Everyone: (Bursts into Laughter)
Noguchi: "The reason I couldn't answer confidently at the time was because I thought I still didn't have civil rights. So I told her 'I draw all sorts' (laughs)."
──"So what you're saying is despite the boom, you still don't have civil rights?"
Azuma: "What I don't understand is why Lolicon is booming. Could such a thing have a boom?"
Hirukogami: "In the past, Lolicon had a dark image, but thanks to Sensei, the image of a Lolicon is bright and fun. Noguchi-san's manga are especially fun. Like you're having fun drawing them. Like they're trying to turn me, who was indifferent to such, into a Hentai."
Noguchi: "I won't deny that (laughs). Someone told me this, but even if the girls I draw wind up ravaged, the girls don't look hurt. He said he didn't get the impression they were being bullied from my manga (laughs). I'm the kind of guy that totally has fun drawing. After all, it's fun drawing girls."
Azuma: "Do you like bullying?"
Noguchi: "No, I inherently dislike the sight of blood; however, when I see an article about a young girl being bullied in the newspaper, it makes my heart skip a beat."
Azuma: "That may be you in the future."
Noguchi: "Only if I make a misstep (laughs)."
──"It seems there was actually a person called Noguchi Masayuki in Yokohama who was arrested for bullying young girls."
Noguchi: "Ah, you're right. The editor of Tatsumi Publishing called me over the phone to check up on me. And he was like 'Huh? You're there?' (laughs)."
Azuma: "He was certain it was Noguchi-san (laughs)."
──"But the name of the policeman that was arrested for climbing onto the stage during a live performance at a strip show theatre was Azuma Hideo, was it not?"
Everyone: (Burst into Laughter)
Azuma: "Uumu."
■My Bishoujo
──"How do I word this? At what age is someone a Bishoujo to you?"
Hirukogami: "For me, if they're past 14, they're past their prime (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "I don't really find age to be relevant. The inner nature of a girl is more important than her actual age. On the one hand, the Tokyo high school girls are terrifying; they all look like female gang leaders. On the other hand, the high school girls riding on Roadpals around Gunma are very cute, they're so pure."
──"Azuma-san, I believe you said a Shoujo is a Shoujo even if she's well-developed in the chest." The God of Lolicon is into Oppai Loli.
Azuma: "Yeah, I believe I said that. But what about Hirukogami-san...?"
Hirukogami: "Her chest must be completely flat." Explains his fashionable choice of clothing.
Everyone: (Burst into Laughter)
Azuma: "That's why we're different. He's unable to have a normal marriage."
Kawamoto: "Well, Lolicon are usually unable to have normal marriages. When I called Azuma's home for the first time, his wife picked up and I thought she was totally a middle schooler."
──"So Azuma-san didn't have a normal marriage (laughs)."
Azuma: "It was normal. What are you saying? I also have children. Is it that unbelievable for a Lolicon to have kids!?"
Hirukogami: "I think it's about time you put up a wire fence around your home."
Azuma: "Everyone's after my daughter (laughs). Someone's gotta do it."
──"So you wanna keep her by your side and never let her get married for the rest of her life?"
Azuma: "No, nothing of the sort. Cause I'm a normal human."
Everyone: (Bursts into Laughter for some Reason)
■Sailor Suits and Randoseru
Azuma: "Sailor suits, they're part of Lolicon, right?"
Taniguchi: "Well, you see (he's been quiet till now, so he's suddenly leaning his body forward). Err, those things had a boom 10 years ago, didn't they? The protagonists during the boom back then were all wearing sailor suits. So isn't this just a prolongation of that?"
Hirukogami: "I'm bad when it comes to high school girls; whenever I hear their high-pitch voices, it makes me want to pull out the ropes to tie them up, and..."
Everyone: "So you want to do that (laughs)?"
Kawamoto: "After all, the ideal is the middle school sailor suit. Tokyo high schoolers don't look good in them. Budding breasts and a height around 155cm, those kinds of girls should wear sailor suits."
Hirukogami: "Their sailor suits are worn all year round, so no matter how you slice it, they're filthy. Glistening with their skin oils."
──"By the same token, are the glistening skin oils on Hirukogami's Randoseru good?"
Hirukogami: "Ah! Randoseru are good alright. I recently got a hold of one, but it's been used for 6 years, so the sweat-soaked red Randoseru is irresistible."
Kawamoto: "(Laughs). I bet you were wearing the Randoseru over your head and rolling around."
──"Did you bring it with you today?"
Hirukogami: "No way. I have it carefully on display back home."
Everyone: (Laughs)
Kawamoto: "I'm just your regular guy wearing bloomers and rolling around."
Taniguchi: "Ah, bloomers are nice."
Kawamoto: "Not just Chouchin-bloomers, but a form-fitting jersey. Those are nice." Chouchin-bloomers (ちょうちんブルマー) are a specific kind of bloomer.
──"How do you feel about leotards?"
Kawamoto: "Umm. Girls in leotards aren't cute, to be honest."
Taniguchi: "(Nodding). They're uncute."
Kawamoto: "I would rather have a school swimsuit than a leotard."
──"You're a very plain man."
Kawamoto: "I want to keep it simple with stuff that has their name written on the chest."
──"How does that make it good?"
Kawamoto: "Um, you see, they're all dressed the same. So it makes the cute girls stand out."
■Licca-chan Doll Craze
──"How does everyone feel about dolls?"
Taniguchi: "Dolls are nice, aren't they?"
Hayasaka: "Hirukogami-san is unchallenged when it comes to dolls."
Hirukogami: "I like them. I have about 20 Licca-chan dolls. Of course, it's boring playing with them normally. Superhero dolls are about the same size as Licca-chan so having Ultraman don Licca-chan's outfits is pretty cute. I also have dolls called G.I. Joe. Though I only have about 5 of them. If I combine the G.I. Joe and Licca-chan dolls, they perfectly encapsulate the body shapes of an adult and child." Licca-chan (Link)
Everyone: "Guwaah (laughs)."
Hirukogami: "I enjoy posing them in various positions."
Azuma: "Y, you're sick (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "You're twisted (laughs)."
Noguchi: "Hirukogami-san dropped by my place the other day, and showed me a big fight between Licca-chan and G.I. Joe (laughs). Ever since then, my impression of dolls has been pretty positive."
Azuma: "So you're doing a Licca-chan doll delivery service?"
Hirukogami: "I wouldn't quite call it a delivery service."
──"Do you have any Petite Angie dolls?" Her Majesty's Petite Angie (Link)
Hirukogami: "Yeah, there's 5 kinds of those. From Takara. Well, I have a big and small one. It's already an old anime, so they're hard to come by. Even though Candy Candy is currently selling, Petite Angie is way cuter and has a better personality! I dislike hypocritical characters like Candy Candy." Candy Candy (Linkj)
──"Azuma-san is also pretty particular about Petite Angie."
Azuma: "Yeah, I also like her. I'm a close match for him in that area. Though I'm still a loser; only have 3 of them."
Everyone: (Burst into Laughter)
Hirukogami: "Do you have any cels?"
Azuma: "Well, I received 2 or 3."
Hirukogami: "Gentlemen, he has cels for Petite Angie."
Taniguchi: "However, not all of them."
Azuma: "Yeah, just the ones where she's tied up at the watermill."
Hirukogami: "Somehow, that's really cute. Ufufufufufu."
Azuma Hideo's Waifu: Petite Angie. His obsession for this character extends to him expressing a desire to become Angie.
■Lolicon is an Ideal
──"I'm of the opinion Takemiya Keiko's 'Fly Me to the Moon!' is the perfect Lolicon manga." 'Fly Me to the Moon': Link
Azuma: "Ah, I agree."
Kawamoto: "However, I believe women do not understand Lolicon on a fundamental level."
Noguchi: "I also think so."
Kawamoto: "Most of them are Fashionable Lolicon."
Hayasaka: "The ones called female Lolicon like small, cute girls, but they also like cute boys and cute children."
Kawamoto: "They lack distinction and principle, you could say they lack the ideal."
──"The ideal?"
Kawamoto: "All Lolicon have an ideal."
Noguchi: "Sounds like you're trying to split hairs (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "No, I'm making a point. There are Lolicon that stick to school swimsuits, there are Lolicon that stick to Randoseru, but when it comes to female Lolicon, the only thing that matters to them is whether something is cute. They're unprincipled Lolicon, so I cannot recognise them as Lolicon. After all the path of a Lolicon is much deeper."
Noguchi: "Ah, so it's a matter of depth? (Laughs)."
Hayasaka: "For some reason, I'm starting to feel afire with desire."
Hirukokami: "I'm still a long ways from that."
Hayasaka: "You'll need to seclude yourself in the mountains with a Randoseru for about three years (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "Though it's been getting a little crazy lately, Lolicon isn't dark at all. In fact, I believe someone said this but, Shoujo are beautiful, but we who love those Shoujo aren't beautiful. That is to say, some are coming into this with the misconception Lolicon is beautiful. I believe Azuma-san's manga provides a cover for that; 'I'm not a Lolicon, but I am a fan of Azuma Hideo'. That's why it's become very cool to call things Lolicon. I think that's a bad trend. After all, those who love Shoujo aren't beautiful in the slightest."
Hayasaka: "It's not beautiful, but it's defiant. That's why you have those saying doing ○○ and ×× is Lolicon."
The perfect Lolicon manga according to the moderator.
■Lolicon is Sexual Science Fiction
Perhaps you don't know anything about Lolicon being sexual science fiction, but it's not limited to Lolicon; Homo, Lez, Sado, Maso, and all the other sex besides the so-called 'normal sexual relationships' are akin to science fiction. Perhaps you could call them science fiction of the lower body. Among their commonalities are suppressed desires, possibility and imagination, and a degree of hatred towards 'reality', Lolicon and SF are very similar in the aspect where they're strangely pessimistic.
However, that is not to say most of what is being written is Lolicon SF. There are many SF where girls appear, but those aren't necessarily Lolicon, just like having a girl appear doesn't make something a porno.
That said, it's not completely out of the question. Out of all the works I'm going to mention, if I have to give a perfect example, is Hoshi Shinichi's early work 'Moon's Light'. This is the story of a middle-aged man who keeps a mixed-race girl as a pet. Though the girl was an abandoned child, the man did nothing to educate her as a human, instead he raised her as a beautiful pet. The pet girl was attached to the man. The man, of course, didn't do anything to her. He was merely fascinated by her presence. Hoshi Shinichi (Link)
Robert Young's 'The Dandelion Girl' is also a romantic Lolicon SF. Her dandelion hair dancing in the wind, a girl standing in the afternoon sunshine comes from a future two hundred forty years away. The man admonishes his agitated self. 'Hey, hey, I'm forty-four.' Young, very much a Lolicon, introduces charming girls even in his 'Jonathan and the Space Whale'.
Speaking of charming, Mitsuse Ryuu's 'Asura King' also has a different kind of charm. In 'Ten Billion Days and One Hundred Billion Nights', he introduces an androgynous Bishoujo who possesses a sublime beauty that transcends gender. Though there's many nostalgic stories about boys by Ray Bradbury, the 'April Witch' is a short story that symbolically depicts the fluttering heart of an adolescent girl. (Kobayashi Katsuaki) This person (小林克彰) shouldn't be confused for the Guilty Gear CV of the same name. So far, this is the only time I've seen this name mentioned.
Unlike the other pieces written alongside the roundtable talk (i.e. one about male crossdressers commenting on sailor uniforms), I felt this one was important to translate to show how important western science fiction media was to budding artists in Japan and Lolicon itself.
The Lolicon Boom mentioned earlier in the talk was happening alongside a Star Wars boom, and as Uchiyama Aki (Noguchi Masayuki) later mentioned in an out-of-panel note in an issue of Lemon People, there isn't a single Japanese mangaka who hasn't been influenced by American comics.
The reason Azuma is treated with such high regard is because Japan was importing the dark Lolicon from Europe and North America (Junior Idol-type pornography), and he turned that dark image around to something fun and positive with his manga Lolicon. The manga and anime industry wouldn't be the way it is right now if it weren't for the above artists influencing all the artists that gained recognition overseas like Takahashi Rumiko, Nagai Go, Toriyama Akira, among others.
Despite that, most of these people haven't really transitioned to the internet age.
Taniguchi Kei, the Lolicon Gekigaka, is still alive and well, posting on the internet.
You can find his Pixiv account here:
In fact, it's thanks to this tweet by Taniguchi,
I went to the trouble of picking up this issue of Fusion Product amidst Covid:
In this issue, there's a 6 page roundtable talk between the most influential and important members of Lolicon and Bishoujo manga history. There's a lot of information not available in English with few articles accurately covering the people involved, leading to much misconceptions that still circulate the western internet. Everything following this paragraph is my translation of the article in question with coloured translator's notes to deliver further info. Please keep in mind there are several different definitions of the word Lolicon, and in 1981, there wasn't a word for Otaku or a word for Moe or Waifu in regards to having a fondness for anime characters, so in these days Lolicon, Lolita, and Bishoujo were the words often used for expressing those concepts.
Lolicon Roundtable Talk
No matter how you slice it, Bishoujo seems to be booming. So it's for that reason we have gathered the 'authorities' in that field... Oh, the horror, the horror.
The Lolicon's Path is Rocky and Deep
Lolita, or how I learned to abandon normal romance and love Bishoujo.
(吾妻ひでお) Azuma Hideo (Bishoujo Mangaka) Current Status: Deceased (RIP)Lolita, or how I learned to abandon normal romance and love Bishoujo.
You cannot talk about Bishoujo without mentioning him. He hasn't been making much of a stir recently, but he's still stirring nonetheless. Some worship him as the 'God of Lolicon', clapping their hands in prayer, morning and evening.
(野口正之) Noguchi Masayuki (Biyoujo Mangaka) *Penname: (内山亜紀) Uchiyama Aki (Link); Current Status: Alive (His Books are Available Digitally).
No longer able to run or hide from it, a man who is unmistakably a Lolicon. Recently applied in a readers' column for the Shoujo manga magazine 'Nakayoshi', and was happily selected as an honourable mention for the C-class. Apparently, he wants to close up shop as a Lolicon mangaka to walk the path of a Shoujo mangaka.
(谷口敬) Taniguchi Kei (Lolicon Gekigaka) Status: Alive and well (See End Note)
He gave us a stern warning he will never allow us to publish a photo of his face, but nevertheless, we got him to let us publish it. His first public appearance... A brazen... No, no, a rosy-cheeked Biseinen Mangaka. After making his debut in 'Erogenica', he's currently writing for 'Daikairaku' at a serialisation pace.
(早坂未紀) Hayasaka Miki (Lolicon Doujinshi Creator) Current Status: Unknown
More than fact, rather it's a foregone conclusion even he who boasts sparkling talent in the Doujinshi world is actually a Lolicon. Despite being so skilled, he's a modest man who hasn't earnestly drawn for a professional magazine. He's working as an assistant for Murakami Motoka and Azuma Hideo.
(川本耕次) Kawamoto Kouji (Lolicon Editor) Current Status: Alive and Posting on Twitter (Link)
Has had Noguchi Masayuki draw Lolicon manga in 'Peke' and has had Azuma Hideo draw Bishoujo manga in 'Shoujo Alice', you could say he's the man responsible for the current boom. In addition, the phantom masterpiece Bishoujo photo book 'There's a lot of Girls in the City' is also his work. He's currently working hard, day and night, on ero-books over at Gunyuusha.
(蛭児神建) Hirukogami Ken (Lolicon Degenerate) Current Status: Unknown
Whenever Lolicon is mentioned, he's always ready to talk about it. The man is like a street guru. Dressed in hunting cap, sun glasses, mask, and raincoat that have started appearing on dummies all around. He presides over the extreme Lolicon Doujinshi 'Youjo Fancier'.
(藤本孝人) Moderator: Fujimoto Takato (Ordinary 30 Year-old Bachelor) Current Status: Unknown
Publisher of the long-established Mini-communication magazine 'Manga no Techou'. At first glance, he's a true and upright salaryman, but in this special article, he's revealed to be a jack of many trades. Talk about not judging a book by its cover. Recently, he's been subjected to a bunch of marriage interviews, but he has insisted he won't respond to any marriage interview photos unless the girl in question is wearing a sailor suit that fits his preferences.
■Are you a Lolicon?
──"Today's talk is about Lolicon, so I would like to start by confirming whether everyone is a Lolicon."
Noguchi: "I'm a Lolicon." (Blunt)
Taniguchi: "I'm currently working for 'Daikairaku'. So I'm thinking this while looking at the other writing members, but perhaps I'm not the biggest Lolicon." Manga Daikairaku: Link
──"There's always someone insisting 'I'm not a Lolicon!'."
Taniguchi: "At least not a violent one."
Kawamoto: "I'm a Lolicon. In the strictest sense of the word. Recently, there's been all sorts, like Heidi Complex or Alice Complex among other types. I'm just in it for the sailor suits (laughs)."
──"Next, while I don't need to ask, but..."
Azuma: "I'm different." (Blunt)
Everyone: "Not this again."
──"Well, let's leave the arguing aside. What about you, Hayasaka-san?"
Hayasaka: "Everyone says I have it, so it must be true."
──"Any noticeable symptoms?"
Hayasaka: "Nothing more than my trembling hands."
Hirukogami: "My dream is I want to hold my chest high and declare 'I'm a degenerate'."
──"What's the difference between a degenerate and a Lolicon?"
Hirukogami: "The difference is in action."
──In any case, everyone has been speaking their minds, but what about you Azuma-san?
Azuma: "Eh?"
──"Earlier you mentioned you're different, that you're a Lolicon during work."
Azuma: "... Something like that...."
──"So you don't love anime Bishoujo?"
Azuma: "No (laugh). Please don't ask just me; I came here to study what Lolicon are like today."
Hayasaka: "Ah—is that so?"
──"Though many people have awoken to Lolicon after reading Azuma-san's manga."
Azuma: "I don't know. Are there really people like that?"
──"Kawamoto-san has been handling Azuma-san's works for quite some time in 'Peke'." Monthly Peke: Link
Kawamoto: "I'm tooting my own horn, but I've been something of an important turning point in Azuma-san's life. I've turned the second-rate Azuma-san, who was drawing for Akitashoten and Futabasha, into a third-rate mangaka working for 'Peke'. Also, I had him draw Bishoujo manga for 'Shoujo Alice'. That was just turning him from an 'SF-mania artist' into a 'Lolicon artist', it feels like I'm changing him from one bad thing into something worse."
Azuma: "Ah, that's true (laugh)."
──"I believe Noguchi-san also started his career as a Lolicon artist in 'Peke'."
Kawamoto: "He made his debut with the 'OUT' newbie manga award. And it was then I was wandering around the editorial department of Minori Shobou, trying to devise a cheap idea to make his manuscript fees cheaper." Monthly Out: Link
Noguchi: "This is the man I first heard the word Lolicon from (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "Back then, it wasn't popular at all. But I had some interest in it, so I asked Noguchi-kun to draw it since he had the qualities of a Lolicon."
Noguchi: "I'm the type who's happy so long as he gets to draw girls (laughs)."
──"Though looking at what Taniguchi-san published in 'Pafu', his girls were already very cute since then. That's why everyone's always insisting you must be a Lolicon." Pafu: Link
Taniguchi: "There's a noticeable difference between what the readers say about me and what I say about me not being a Lolicon, they're on separate wavelengths. Recently, I've started to understand their side, so if the readers insist I am one, then I may as well give in and accept it."
──"Though I believe you have a fixation on drawing sailor suits."
Taniguchi: "Not at all. ... When it comes to sailor suits these days, the tops are fine, but I don't care much for the skirts."
Everyone: (Laughs)
Azuma: "Do you like short skirts?"
Taniguchi: "When it comes to skirts, I prefer midi, pretty much. The part where you can see half the knee makes midi the cutest."
──"I knew it, so you enjoy drawing those kind of works."
Taniguchi: "Well, I enjoy it, but... Saying that is enough to make me fine with this is a bit..."
──"So it's a forbidden pleasure? (Laughs)"
Hayasaka: "I wonder if the people being called Lolicon by society are people with little sisters. I've been wondering if that only applies to me."
Hirukogami: "My friend has a little sister and he's been writing a novel about violating a little sister with her name."
Everyone: "That's sick. (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "There might be some truth to that. Like a desire for a little sister."
Taniguchi: "True."
──"Something like if you actually had a little sister, you want her to be like this?"
Hayasaka: "I'm not conscious of it, but I believe it's there."
Hirukogami: "That would make everyone who has a desire for a little sister into a Lolicon. If I also had a little sister, I would do this." (Gestures)
Everyone: (Laughs)
Azuma: "Please behave yourself! (Laughs)."
──"In Tezuka Osamu's early works, he often concluded it with a 'become my little sister' 'sure', so now I'm wondering if perhaps Tezuka-san is the grandfather of Lolicon."
Azuma: "Ah, it feels like that."
Taniguchi: "Some parts of 'Phoenix' felt incestuous. Having sex with a little sister and mother, and creating a bunch of descendants." Pheonix by Tezuka Osamu: Link
Hirukogami: "The motif of incest is common in Lolicon."
Kawamoto: "I'm currently working on an ero-book, but I often write confession notes for that reason. Whenever I write a confession note for incest, I always talk about my little sister. I have an older sister, but no younger sister. It's probably because I cannot delude myself into doing it with my older sister no matter what. She's like a mother to me. The only things I can imagine that make for attractive material is stuff about doing it with a little sister. But when I think about it carefully, lines like 'become my little sister' are really raunchy ones (laughs)."
■Where are the Lolicon Civil Rights?
Kawamoto: "I believe everyone potentially has the elements of a Lolicon. It's only by chance in this period we have things like anime Bishoujo characters, Azuma-san's manga, and the Bishoujo Noguchi-kun draws."
Noguchi: "What I draw aren't Bishoujo. They're Biyoujo!" 美幼女 (Biyoujo) are anime girls younger than 美少女 (Bishoujo)
Kawamoto: "(Laughs). I believe there's places that grant social status where it's fine for Lolicon to be into that sort of stuff."
Noguchi: "Lolicon gained civil rights?"
Kawamoto: "In our current situation, suppose we have neither Azuma-san nor Noguchi-kun, nor the Bishoujo characters from Toei, how would there be Lolicon? I believe there's now places where you can publicly show you're a fan of Azuma Hideo as a Lolicon. In other words, couldn't you say we're accepted?"
Noguchi: "I went to a marriage interview the other day."
Everyone: (Bursts into Laughter)
Noguchi: "You see, the matchmaker introduced me to the other party as a mangaka. So the woman in question didn't have any further background information beyond that. And when we met and did our greetings, she asks 'what kind of manga do you draw?'."
Everyone: (Bursts into Laughter)
Noguchi: "The reason I couldn't answer confidently at the time was because I thought I still didn't have civil rights. So I told her 'I draw all sorts' (laughs)."
──"So what you're saying is despite the boom, you still don't have civil rights?"
Azuma: "What I don't understand is why Lolicon is booming. Could such a thing have a boom?"
Hirukogami: "In the past, Lolicon had a dark image, but thanks to Sensei, the image of a Lolicon is bright and fun. Noguchi-san's manga are especially fun. Like you're having fun drawing them. Like they're trying to turn me, who was indifferent to such, into a Hentai."
Noguchi: "I won't deny that (laughs). Someone told me this, but even if the girls I draw wind up ravaged, the girls don't look hurt. He said he didn't get the impression they were being bullied from my manga (laughs). I'm the kind of guy that totally has fun drawing. After all, it's fun drawing girls."
Azuma: "Do you like bullying?"
Noguchi: "No, I inherently dislike the sight of blood; however, when I see an article about a young girl being bullied in the newspaper, it makes my heart skip a beat."
Azuma: "That may be you in the future."
Noguchi: "Only if I make a misstep (laughs)."
──"It seems there was actually a person called Noguchi Masayuki in Yokohama who was arrested for bullying young girls."
Noguchi: "Ah, you're right. The editor of Tatsumi Publishing called me over the phone to check up on me. And he was like 'Huh? You're there?' (laughs)."
Azuma: "He was certain it was Noguchi-san (laughs)."
──"But the name of the policeman that was arrested for climbing onto the stage during a live performance at a strip show theatre was Azuma Hideo, was it not?"
Everyone: (Burst into Laughter)
Azuma: "Uumu."
■My Bishoujo
──"How do I word this? At what age is someone a Bishoujo to you?"
Hirukogami: "For me, if they're past 14, they're past their prime (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "I don't really find age to be relevant. The inner nature of a girl is more important than her actual age. On the one hand, the Tokyo high school girls are terrifying; they all look like female gang leaders. On the other hand, the high school girls riding on Roadpals around Gunma are very cute, they're so pure."
──"Azuma-san, I believe you said a Shoujo is a Shoujo even if she's well-developed in the chest." The God of Lolicon is into Oppai Loli.
Azuma: "Yeah, I believe I said that. But what about Hirukogami-san...?"
Hirukogami: "Her chest must be completely flat." Explains his fashionable choice of clothing.
Everyone: (Burst into Laughter)
Azuma: "That's why we're different. He's unable to have a normal marriage."
Kawamoto: "Well, Lolicon are usually unable to have normal marriages. When I called Azuma's home for the first time, his wife picked up and I thought she was totally a middle schooler."
──"So Azuma-san didn't have a normal marriage (laughs)."
Azuma: "It was normal. What are you saying? I also have children. Is it that unbelievable for a Lolicon to have kids!?"
Hirukogami: "I think it's about time you put up a wire fence around your home."
Azuma: "Everyone's after my daughter (laughs). Someone's gotta do it."
──"So you wanna keep her by your side and never let her get married for the rest of her life?"
Azuma: "No, nothing of the sort. Cause I'm a normal human."
Everyone: (Bursts into Laughter for some Reason)
■Sailor Suits and Randoseru
Azuma: "Sailor suits, they're part of Lolicon, right?"
Taniguchi: "Well, you see (he's been quiet till now, so he's suddenly leaning his body forward). Err, those things had a boom 10 years ago, didn't they? The protagonists during the boom back then were all wearing sailor suits. So isn't this just a prolongation of that?"
Hirukogami: "I'm bad when it comes to high school girls; whenever I hear their high-pitch voices, it makes me want to pull out the ropes to tie them up, and..."
Everyone: "So you want to do that (laughs)?"
Kawamoto: "After all, the ideal is the middle school sailor suit. Tokyo high schoolers don't look good in them. Budding breasts and a height around 155cm, those kinds of girls should wear sailor suits."
Hirukogami: "Their sailor suits are worn all year round, so no matter how you slice it, they're filthy. Glistening with their skin oils."
──"By the same token, are the glistening skin oils on Hirukogami's Randoseru good?"
Hirukogami: "Ah! Randoseru are good alright. I recently got a hold of one, but it's been used for 6 years, so the sweat-soaked red Randoseru is irresistible."
Kawamoto: "(Laughs). I bet you were wearing the Randoseru over your head and rolling around."
──"Did you bring it with you today?"
Hirukogami: "No way. I have it carefully on display back home."
Everyone: (Laughs)
Kawamoto: "I'm just your regular guy wearing bloomers and rolling around."
Taniguchi: "Ah, bloomers are nice."
Kawamoto: "Not just Chouchin-bloomers, but a form-fitting jersey. Those are nice." Chouchin-bloomers (ちょうちんブルマー) are a specific kind of bloomer.
──"How do you feel about leotards?"
Kawamoto: "Umm. Girls in leotards aren't cute, to be honest."
Taniguchi: "(Nodding). They're uncute."
Kawamoto: "I would rather have a school swimsuit than a leotard."
──"You're a very plain man."
Kawamoto: "I want to keep it simple with stuff that has their name written on the chest."
──"How does that make it good?"
Kawamoto: "Um, you see, they're all dressed the same. So it makes the cute girls stand out."
■Licca-chan Doll Craze
──"How does everyone feel about dolls?"
Taniguchi: "Dolls are nice, aren't they?"
Hayasaka: "Hirukogami-san is unchallenged when it comes to dolls."
Hirukogami: "I like them. I have about 20 Licca-chan dolls. Of course, it's boring playing with them normally. Superhero dolls are about the same size as Licca-chan so having Ultraman don Licca-chan's outfits is pretty cute. I also have dolls called G.I. Joe. Though I only have about 5 of them. If I combine the G.I. Joe and Licca-chan dolls, they perfectly encapsulate the body shapes of an adult and child." Licca-chan (Link)
Everyone: "Guwaah (laughs)."
Hirukogami: "I enjoy posing them in various positions."
Azuma: "Y, you're sick (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "You're twisted (laughs)."
Noguchi: "Hirukogami-san dropped by my place the other day, and showed me a big fight between Licca-chan and G.I. Joe (laughs). Ever since then, my impression of dolls has been pretty positive."
Azuma: "So you're doing a Licca-chan doll delivery service?"
Hirukogami: "I wouldn't quite call it a delivery service."
──"Do you have any Petite Angie dolls?" Her Majesty's Petite Angie (Link)
Hirukogami: "Yeah, there's 5 kinds of those. From Takara. Well, I have a big and small one. It's already an old anime, so they're hard to come by. Even though Candy Candy is currently selling, Petite Angie is way cuter and has a better personality! I dislike hypocritical characters like Candy Candy." Candy Candy (Linkj)
──"Azuma-san is also pretty particular about Petite Angie."
Azuma: "Yeah, I also like her. I'm a close match for him in that area. Though I'm still a loser; only have 3 of them."
Everyone: (Burst into Laughter)
Hirukogami: "Do you have any cels?"
Azuma: "Well, I received 2 or 3."
Hirukogami: "Gentlemen, he has cels for Petite Angie."
Taniguchi: "However, not all of them."
Azuma: "Yeah, just the ones where she's tied up at the watermill."
Hirukogami: "Somehow, that's really cute. Ufufufufufu."
Azuma Hideo's Waifu: Petite Angie. His obsession for this character extends to him expressing a desire to become Angie.
■Lolicon is an Ideal
──"I'm of the opinion Takemiya Keiko's 'Fly Me to the Moon!' is the perfect Lolicon manga." 'Fly Me to the Moon': Link
Azuma: "Ah, I agree."
Kawamoto: "However, I believe women do not understand Lolicon on a fundamental level."
Noguchi: "I also think so."
Kawamoto: "Most of them are Fashionable Lolicon."
Hayasaka: "The ones called female Lolicon like small, cute girls, but they also like cute boys and cute children."
Kawamoto: "They lack distinction and principle, you could say they lack the ideal."
──"The ideal?"
Kawamoto: "All Lolicon have an ideal."
Noguchi: "Sounds like you're trying to split hairs (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "No, I'm making a point. There are Lolicon that stick to school swimsuits, there are Lolicon that stick to Randoseru, but when it comes to female Lolicon, the only thing that matters to them is whether something is cute. They're unprincipled Lolicon, so I cannot recognise them as Lolicon. After all the path of a Lolicon is much deeper."
Noguchi: "Ah, so it's a matter of depth? (Laughs)."
Hayasaka: "For some reason, I'm starting to feel afire with desire."
Hirukokami: "I'm still a long ways from that."
Hayasaka: "You'll need to seclude yourself in the mountains with a Randoseru for about three years (laughs)."
Kawamoto: "Though it's been getting a little crazy lately, Lolicon isn't dark at all. In fact, I believe someone said this but, Shoujo are beautiful, but we who love those Shoujo aren't beautiful. That is to say, some are coming into this with the misconception Lolicon is beautiful. I believe Azuma-san's manga provides a cover for that; 'I'm not a Lolicon, but I am a fan of Azuma Hideo'. That's why it's become very cool to call things Lolicon. I think that's a bad trend. After all, those who love Shoujo aren't beautiful in the slightest."
Hayasaka: "It's not beautiful, but it's defiant. That's why you have those saying doing ○○ and ×× is Lolicon."
The perfect Lolicon manga according to the moderator.
■Lolicon is Sexual Science Fiction
Perhaps you don't know anything about Lolicon being sexual science fiction, but it's not limited to Lolicon; Homo, Lez, Sado, Maso, and all the other sex besides the so-called 'normal sexual relationships' are akin to science fiction. Perhaps you could call them science fiction of the lower body. Among their commonalities are suppressed desires, possibility and imagination, and a degree of hatred towards 'reality', Lolicon and SF are very similar in the aspect where they're strangely pessimistic.
However, that is not to say most of what is being written is Lolicon SF. There are many SF where girls appear, but those aren't necessarily Lolicon, just like having a girl appear doesn't make something a porno.
That said, it's not completely out of the question. Out of all the works I'm going to mention, if I have to give a perfect example, is Hoshi Shinichi's early work 'Moon's Light'. This is the story of a middle-aged man who keeps a mixed-race girl as a pet. Though the girl was an abandoned child, the man did nothing to educate her as a human, instead he raised her as a beautiful pet. The pet girl was attached to the man. The man, of course, didn't do anything to her. He was merely fascinated by her presence. Hoshi Shinichi (Link)
Robert Young's 'The Dandelion Girl' is also a romantic Lolicon SF. Her dandelion hair dancing in the wind, a girl standing in the afternoon sunshine comes from a future two hundred forty years away. The man admonishes his agitated self. 'Hey, hey, I'm forty-four.' Young, very much a Lolicon, introduces charming girls even in his 'Jonathan and the Space Whale'.
Speaking of charming, Mitsuse Ryuu's 'Asura King' also has a different kind of charm. In 'Ten Billion Days and One Hundred Billion Nights', he introduces an androgynous Bishoujo who possesses a sublime beauty that transcends gender. Though there's many nostalgic stories about boys by Ray Bradbury, the 'April Witch' is a short story that symbolically depicts the fluttering heart of an adolescent girl. (Kobayashi Katsuaki) This person (小林克彰) shouldn't be confused for the Guilty Gear CV of the same name. So far, this is the only time I've seen this name mentioned.
Unlike the other pieces written alongside the roundtable talk (i.e. one about male crossdressers commenting on sailor uniforms), I felt this one was important to translate to show how important western science fiction media was to budding artists in Japan and Lolicon itself.
The Lolicon Boom mentioned earlier in the talk was happening alongside a Star Wars boom, and as Uchiyama Aki (Noguchi Masayuki) later mentioned in an out-of-panel note in an issue of Lemon People, there isn't a single Japanese mangaka who hasn't been influenced by American comics.
The reason Azuma is treated with such high regard is because Japan was importing the dark Lolicon from Europe and North America (Junior Idol-type pornography), and he turned that dark image around to something fun and positive with his manga Lolicon. The manga and anime industry wouldn't be the way it is right now if it weren't for the above artists influencing all the artists that gained recognition overseas like Takahashi Rumiko, Nagai Go, Toriyama Akira, among others.
Despite that, most of these people haven't really transitioned to the internet age.
Taniguchi Kei, the Lolicon Gekigaka, is still alive and well, posting on the internet.
You can find his Pixiv account here:
I went to the trouble of picking up this issue of Fusion Product amidst Covid:
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