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Discussion The push to replace/heavily imply Otokonoko charachters as trans/non binary is becoming a big problem.

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Spoiler warning for some series , Starting a discussion on the push for traps and otokonoko to be considered trans/Non Binary.

Exoskull Zero RX-78-2

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Soon there's going to be a character in bleach that is going to cause controversy because of his gender.
Ahh, you're talking about Giselle.
(I really like the expressions they make when they're triggered. :LOL:)
 

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Styner

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Read the thread I hate myself for it, but basically they just shite on about how they hope the character is trans and that they don't have an way of actually knowing based off what little info we have. And that they head cannon the character as trans. They tried to use certain terms as a catch all. But regardless it's a shit thread if I ever seen one.

Especially since there's not any real info yet.

It's like the shiver situation was .

Could be a guy, could be a girl definitely isn't anything else.

We just gotta wait for info.
 

Gondolindrim

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Apparently you can't just be gay anymore, or feminine. According to these people if you act like a girl or dress like a girl you're automatically trans. Then they "claim" the character, like bridgett, and declare that any thought to the contrary is transphobic.
 

Lost Branch

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I'm pretty confident the original version does what normally happens with these characters and does what they did with Shiver and Juniper, meaning no actual "gendered" language in his description, but the character most likely uses boku because it's cute.
 

Styner

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What I love is now they're all screaming it's a localization issue and that he's not a boy!
 

NretsewThePerv

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time to take the W boiz


this should remind us why we should ALWAYS speak up about these issues and not feel shamed into silence. it also proved that the best way to really combat the rot in the industry is to bypass the western site and talk directly to the JP author/publisher.

But yeah, we can take the W with this one and run with it. even if the work to stop this shit is far from over
 

Hikikimorgan

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Yeah the one on bridgets head is the androgyne symbol as in androgenous

Pay attention to the sleight of hand these kind on people use
They will claim that japan is absolutely onboard with lgbt nonsense but will attempt to launder the comparatively benign with the indefensible
They will say japan has pride parades too but you will notice an absence of adult men with their dicks hanging out and ones in full fetish gear around young children
They will try to lump mishima in with teaching elementary school students about sex and masturbation
They will say that japan is ok with transexuals but would not be onboard with puberty blockers for childre and vaginoplasty/phalloplasty/masectomies for teens
Remember to call them out on that bullshit
Same sex marriage is not legal in Japan from what I have seen, either. The whole argument is false.
 

Brazio

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time to take the W boiz


this should remind us why we should ALWAYS speak up about these issues and not feel shamed into silence. it also proved that the best way to really combat the rot in the industry is to bypass the western site and talk directly to the JP author/publisher.

But yeah, we can take the W with this one and run with it. even if the work to stop this shit is far from over
Not to be that nitpicky person, but for someone who lolcowlizer defended ferociously for, allegedly, done an effort to "research", why the fuck they would use boy♀️to refer otokonoko when girl♂️ is the norm (e.g My Wife is a Man has ♂️ in the title art which indicate it is a trap).
 
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saltycoinsandmilk

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Idiots and groomers from twatter are always going on about femboys and traps beign trans because they cannot live in a reality where they are not the center of attention. This is sadly something that has been foing of for years now sadly, just another topic tge internet likes to go apeshit over:mokou-lying:
ever since 2016 or so if I'm not mistaken.
I remember half of the GBATemp regulars trooned out around that time. as well as a bunch of other circles that were adjacent to it.

seems like a lot of people who later on became your typical Twitter queercow joined the internet around 2014-2016 too, so that seems to have factored into the matter, too. perfect timing for them, since that's roughly when the scope of the internet pretty much changed drastically thanks to Discord.
Nintendo confirmed shiver is a woman.
Splatoon fandom is full of pedos (it's a kids game with a childish artstyle), no wonder they're really mad about it

rare Nintendo W for actually not pandering to the woke crowd too. nice.
God I fucking hate trannies and pronountards so goddamn much. Your personality is not your gender. You are either a boy or a girl, just look between your fucking legs to know what you are. If you as a boy like stuff that is typically considered "for females" or are a girl with "male interests" who gives a shit? Just be yourself. That's just your personality, your gender has nothing to do with it.
you forget that such people are usually autistic enough to the point where you can literally tell they're autistic just by looking at them from across the road due to a lack of sense of physical appearance (and general lack of attractiveness IRL) - if not that, the sound of their voice and their speech patterns alone would give them away.

again, such people are vulnerable, easily manipulated, and often overly horny. sometimes they are destined to be shitty people no matter what, sometimes they are groomed into becoming shitty people, with no way to turn them back around. they join Discords for their nerd hobbies, and then they feel like they 'belong' for the first time in their lives after all the shit they're given at school for pretty much existing, and then that's when the predators kick in and start making them question their gender identity - the beginning of it being all the trans flags and discussion about their transness and what offended them in the realm of troonistan this week.

it genuinely makes me sad how few of these people ever recover from this and they literally just keep going until the diversity hires come through, and they gain utmost power over western society. the ones that do recover are left mentally wrecked from it all and considered traitors (and have to live with whatever atrocities they may have committed in their time), worse still if they took hormones and whatnot.

the governments probably are encouraging this absolute shitshow because it helps them in their road to creating complete and utter fucking chaos, distracting everyone from the real issues going on. we're already at the point where wrongthink pretty much means you're ostracised from a certain portion of society and have to essentially hide in order to avoid mobs at your door trying to post your address on twitter (see: what happened to jk rowling a while ago because she said troons don't menstruate)

maybe I shouldn't feel bad for troons but it's really clear to me, many of them were just ordinary, awkward teenagers at some point who were upstreamed into that shit by all the groomers on game modding/retro PC communities and whatnot - had they never came across such communities online, they'd never have trooned out
, and that's what gets me most.

now I just feel upset.
 

VidMasterEon

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ever since 2016 or so if I'm not mistaken.
I remember half of the GBATemp regulars trooned out around that time. as well as a bunch of other circles that were adjacent to it.

seems like a lot of people who later on became your typical Twitter queercow joined the internet around 2014-2016 too, so that seems to have factored into the matter, too. perfect timing for them, since that's roughly when the scope of the internet pretty much changed drastically thanks to Discord.

Splatoon fandom is full of pedos (it's a kids game with a childish artstyle), no wonder they're really mad about it

rare Nintendo W for actually not pandering to the woke crowd too. nice.

you forget that such people are usually autistic enough to the point where you can literally tell they're autistic just by looking at them from across the road due to a lack of sense of physical appearance (and general lack of attractiveness IRL) - if not that, the sound of their voice and their speech patterns alone would give them away.

again, such people are vulnerable, easily manipulated, and often overly horny. sometimes they are destined to be shitty people no matter what, sometimes they are groomed into becoming shitty people, with no way to turn them back around. they join Discords for their nerd hobbies, and then they feel like they 'belong' for the first time in their lives after all the shit they're given at school for pretty much existing, and then that's when the predators kick in and start making them question their gender identity - the beginning of it being all the trans flags and discussion about their transness and what offended them in the realm of troonistan this week.

it genuinely makes me sad how few of these people ever recover from this and they literally just keep going until the diversity hires come through, and they gain utmost power over western society. the ones that do recover are left mentally wrecked from it all and considered traitors (and have to live with whatever atrocities they may have committed in their time), worse still if they took hormones and whatnot.

the governments probably are encouraging this absolute shitshow because it helps them in their road to creating complete and utter fucking chaos, distracting everyone from the real issues going on. we're already at the point where wrongthink pretty much means you're ostracised from a certain portion of society and have to essentially hide in order to avoid mobs at your door trying to post your address on twitter (see: what happened to jk rowling a while ago because she said troons don't menstruate)

maybe I shouldn't feel bad for troons but it's really clear to me, many of them were just ordinary, awkward teenagers at some point who were upstreamed into that shit by all the groomers on game modding/retro PC communities and whatnot - had they never came across such communities online, they'd never have trooned out
, and that's what gets me most.

now I just feel upset.
Hormones destroyed nerd communities worse than crack destroyed black communities
 

Gun

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Chihiro Fujisaki(Danganronpa) the argument is that the story was written as a trans story, but the author was a coward.
The ironic part is that Chihiro's whole motivation was to become stronger so he could actually be a manly man, but whatever, even if the author was just a coward, it still his own decision whether Chihiro Is a boy or a girl, whether you like it or not the only word that matter is the author's.

Honestly, I just wish people would stop being like that. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for lgbtq+ representation, but if an author doesn't want to put a queer character on their piece for whatever reason, they don't have to. Simple as that. A character's identity, personality, aesthetic and sexuality is solely chosen by the author and point. They are the ones writing it, therefore it's their choice whether a character is lgbtq+ or not. And you can't deny that femboys and tomboys >ARE< a thing and they aren't necessarily lgbtq+, putting all character who are femboys or tomboys as trans, lesbian, non binary and etc is actually excluding people who are like this and aren't lgbtq+ from getting represented in media. If you want representation, then you should include all kinds of people.
 
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