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Discussion Bridget is a 41%er

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GG Strives Horribly Misinterpreted

KageBentou

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So this is how this story ends huh? Yet another piece of media claimed by mentally ill maniacs. It's so fucking sad to see, as I myself had that kind of "phase" when I was a teenager but luckily realized it's just a fetish, that if not supressed will lead to delusion and complete denial of reality.
GGST was the first "actual" fighting game I picked up and it was so much fun and even though I bought the Season Pass it seems, I likely won't play it anymore (might even refund it even it's just symbolic) and I will probably look for another fighting game:gura-pain:

and why shouldn't I lynch troons again :zt-think:
"And then one day, for no reason at all, people voted Hitler into power." is a quote I see becoming more relative day by day and at this point I'm not minding it. I mean fuck, the books the nazis burned were the ones which layed the groundwork for troons to be accepted into society. I'm not saying they were the good guys, I'm just saying not everything they did was bad.
 

Cayhr

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Testament was the prelude, Baiken was the bait, and Bridget was the switch. In a twist of pure irony, OG Guilty Gear fans got trapped by Arc Sys into giving their money to support transformer propaganda. The only thing now is to move on, build new subcultures, and gatekeep them while the dying legacy media slowly rots from stagnation and dilution.

A shame, I wonder how it will be done to Xenoblade next.
Monolith will have to justify non-binary Gormotti once the worlds split and return to their original states. They let the cancer find a starting point, and there is no going back unless they (retroactively) write out the sex ambiguity of Yuzuhira entirely. In Xenoblade 2, the femboy trap Floren is explicitly a male, but in Xenoblade 3, there is no specification for Yuzuhira being a female.
Edit: Shortened spoiler tag and used better syntax.
 

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I honesty think 95% of people with dysmorphia are just people in their puberty (which can start quite early or late. Like 10-18 or smth) getting groomed into it. Everyone feels shit about themselves during it, but doesn't mean you are a troon.
theres a reason they wanna get near kids when they're young, and mald and seethe whenever people (or lawmakers) tell them to fuck off :kuroko-sip:

I wasn't even anti-LGBT until like 2016. Before that I genuinely believed the "live and let live" stuff, but once troons appeared, and the pride parades started coming to light i couldn't support that shit anymore. It's genuinely a slippery slope down :senko_sigh:
 

Exoskull Zero RX-78-2

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well unless there is some translation fuckery its all oger boiz

https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-1657/ (archive)

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devs support grooming confirmed lol

I guess at the end of the day at least it's been confirmed and can be openly criticized with less ambiguity. I would advise people not to huff to mutch copeim tho. It's just some dumb fighting game character and the porn of em's still good regardless of what the obnoxious people on Twitter go off about. and the more you cope and seethe about it the more ammo you are giving these loons

the best thing to do now is just to criticize their direction, and then move on. maybe im just huffin my own copeim right now. but unless there is real legit backlash and feedback given to them about this direction from both the JP and EN side I think this is the path the devs have chosen to take and we are just gonna have to deal with it.
"As mentioned in her character profile, Bridget was born as the younger twin son and then raised as a girl by her parents-"

Lol, I thought the narrative Trans people pushed was that you were "always" born as the gender
you identify as, but here it states he was born a boy and later changed (groomed) into being a girl later in life. did the troon's celebrating even read this carefully?
They're usually good at chimping out over every little detail.
 

KageBentou

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I honesty think 95% of people with dysmorphia are just people in their puberty (which can start quite early or late. Like 10-18 or smth) getting groomed into it. Everyone feels shit about themselves during it, but doesn't mean you are a troon.
Yeah, the vast majority are just impressionable kids who feel "different" and are usually social outcasts (the rest of them being people with an actual mental disorder that should get treated correctly). So they try to find people that are like them and this will usually lead them into the claws of a groomer. I luckily didn't try to get into touch with these kinds of people and instead got influenced in the other direction by for example visiting tranny hate threads on 4chan (that is probably one of the best ways to convince anyone that this is clearly not normal).

Lol, I thought the narrative Trans people pushed was that you were "always" born as the gender
you identify as, but here it states he was born a boy and later changed (groomed) into being a girl later in life. did the troon's celebrating even read this carefully?
They're usually good at chimping out over every little detail.
ArcSys wouldn't have taken the decision to answer the drama this way if they didn't have troon intentions in mind. Bridget was always the feminine dude who realized you can express your manliness however you want. Now with even Daisuke saying he sees himself as a girl it's confirmed these retards want to change Bridget into a troon. For them it's probably some "assigned male at birth" bullshit so they can say he "was" a dude.
 

Saibrah

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"As mentioned in her character profile, Bridget was born as the younger twin son and then raised as a girl by her parents-"

Lol, I thought the narrative Trans people pushed was that you were "always" born as the gender
you identify as, but here it states he was born a boy and later changed (groomed) into being a girl later in life. did the troon's celebrating even read this carefully?
They're usually good at chimping out over every little detail.

They don't give a shit about their own semantics. They got a big corpo to bend to the will of their troonism, and the rush of power is most likely more important to them than their own identity which they have to bend over backwards to convince themselves is even real.
 
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Deleted member 1309

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I honesty think 95% of people with dysmorphia are just people in their puberty (which can start quite early or late. Like 10-18 or smth) getting groomed into it. Everyone feels shit about themselves during it, but doesn't mean you are a troon.
Transtrender is a thing, look it up. A lot of people just influenced in their vulnerable period of life, by cultists, and feed lies. And when in doubt, they will show you pics of very few selected good looking trans people, and tell you how if you take the pill, all your problems will go away, and you will be true self and happy.
 

grapedApe

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Fucked the gameplay (still no instant kills), turned loli May into a generic JK girl, made the desired girls DLC (Baiken and Jack-O), the bullshit with testament and now this.

Glad my stance for buying most new things is "bring in/back this girl and dressed like this so she'll give me a boner" which I highly likely won't do since at best they might bring back Dizzy but without the ability to get her pre-Xrd outfit back. I already have Xrd-Rev2, I'll just replay that.
 

Lost Branch

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I'm starting to think Strive didn't sell as well as most are claiming. I saw that Japan first week sales figures, which was around 11k, and cross referenced it with articles stating it sold over 300k* (this number takes into account digital sales because it's based on data from August 2022) units in the first week. Taking this number, we can easily see the PC sales numbers with Steam showing around 30k (which is what Steam peaked at). Knowing all of this, it pretty much tells us that the mass majority of sales were overseas console sales at least in the first week.

Edit: *Correction, checking what ArcSys stated, they only shipped 300k worldwide in the first week, so no actual sales being reported in the first week. No one has confirmed the 300k being actual units sold, only shipped. This reinforces that sales were awful in Japan in the first week.

It then reached 500k a month later in July, but we know it wasn't from Steam sales because the Steam player base dropped by 20k players going by the charts. Those numbers continued to drop until dlc characters released, but not a single one of those characters, including Bridget, got them numbers like the first month. It can be assumed consoles suffered the same drop in players because that's the nature of fighting games.

This confirms that the primary area of sales were, obviously, on consoles. It took over a year to reach a million units, which we don't even know if it's an accurate number due to shipped/sales inaccuracies. It may have actually been Bridget being released that got it to 1 million units. Japanese players had been begging for Bridget to be added this past year going by popularity votes. It's entirely possible when Bridget was announced that sales in Japan jumped, but not likely enough to make all that much of a difference compared to international sales. Everything we know about the reception of the game in Japan has been not great. Even as far back as the beta we saw a lot of flack coming from the Japanese player base, that flack seems to have only increased as time has gone on.

With all of this information it can be concluded that the mass majority of all sales were outside of Japan. Now, I know I said it didn't sell as well as claimed, but it's still the best selling compared to all the previous games from what I can tell. It's pretty clear that ArcSys will do everything it can to pander to the larger market.

Now, the important part, none of that shit matters if barely anyone is actually playing the game. GG has always been a niche game and it continues to be as such especially after they alienated their original player base. I touched on it while talking about the Steam numbers, but here's a clearer picture involving both Steam and PS:

Steam numbers are easy to find, recent numbers are only peaking at around 3.4k in the last 24 hours. GGS doesn't seem to be sold on any other platform other than Steam for PC, so those numbers are done.

Console numbers are a lot trickier, but thanks to some work back in December of 2021, we have an idea of what the PS player count could be. Seen here, we have a person who was looking into popular characters found something interesting. It looks like that majority of players by Dec 21 were on PC and not PS4 or PS5. These numbers are based on the amounts of times characters were used at least once online.

Xbox doesn't even need to be factored because that version isn't coming out until next year.

As far as I can tell by looking at what data is available, the actual player count that is actively playing the game on all platforms most likely peaks around 5k worldwide daily. That amount isn't bad at all for a year old fighting game... except that a highly anticipated character released barely a month prior. Steam shows a pretty good spike in active players at that time, hitting around 11k and then losing nearly 6k active players in two weeks. It can be assumed that console players reacted the same way, played Bridget for a bit and then moved on to other games.

This game is apart of a niche series that is only just now mildly popular do to them making massive changes to how the game is played. This unfortunately will cement how they make games from now on, but I doubt they'll see numbers like this again. Bottom line, it sold well compared to previous GG titles, but was pretty average compared to anything else released in the same month or against other fighting games.

Feel free to destroy anything I said here, I only spent around an hour looking into this stuff, so it's entirely possible I missed something.
 

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theres a reason they wanna get near kids when they're young, and mald and seethe whenever people (or lawmakers) tell them to fuck off :kuroko-sip:

I wasn't even anti-LGBT until like 2016. Before that I genuinely believed the "live and let live" stuff, but once troons appeared, and the pride parades started coming to light i couldn't support that shit anymore. It's genuinely a slippery slope down :senko_sigh:
I knew this was the inevitable result of gay marriage, activists don't stop once they achieve their goal, they continue to push further and further.
Troons and the ideology that birthed it requires grooming kids otherwise how would troons increase their numbers, there was a video a few years back I saw about a psychiatrist who's research was blacklisted because he found 99% or something people with gender dysphoria grow out of it with therapy.
 

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Both the west and china censoring and butchering, I wonder what's the future of Japanese games, or if it even has a future.
 

grapedApe

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I knew this was the inevitable result of gay marriage, activists don't stop once they achieve their goal, they continue to push further and further.
Troons and the ideology that birthed it requires grooming kids otherwise how would troons increase their numbers, there was a video a few years back I saw about a psychiatrist who's research was blacklisted because he found 99% or something people with gender dysphoria grow out of it with therapy.
I used to think when the republicans made the claim that gay marriage would lead to this were crazy, exaggerating bullshit but for a few years now I see I was wrong.

These motherfuckers openly advocate for goading elementary grade boys to wear panties and dance in strip clubs yet they claim its us loli fanservice fans who are the pedos when I never tell anyone about any loli media unless asked and I deem trustworthy or I know I'm talking to someone who's already a fan.
 

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I used to think when the republicans made the claim that gay marriage would lead to this were crazy, exaggerating bullshit but for a few years now I see I was wrong.

These motherfuckers openly advocate for goading elementary grade boys to wear panties and dance in strip clubs yet they claim its us loli fanservice fans who are the pedos when I never tell anyone about any loli media unless asked and I deem trustworthy or I know I'm talking to someone who's already a fan.
the "slippery slope" is noticing the inevitable conclusions of your enemy's premises before they are ready to defend them
The "frog in boiling water" and "foot in the door" tactic's effectiveness is well understood, thus "muh slippery slope" was coined to throw you and lemmings off guard
 

faggot kys

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tranny niggers really think by inserting more troons in the media and entertainment suddenly the whole acceptance of their kind goes through the roof as if people with a critical brain will let troons brainwash them easily. :ohohoh:

I feel like the more troons do this, the more reinforced the repulsion towards them cements. As for those who supported troons and their doings with our entertainment (genuinely in support of troons or just being a faggot with "inclusivity and diversity"), please transition as soon as possible, and then kill yourselves. :ohohoh:




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I used to think when the republicans made the claim that gay marriage would lead to this were crazy, exaggerating bullshit but for a few years now I see I was wrong.

These motherfuckers openly advocate for goading elementary grade boys to wear panties and dance in strip clubs yet they claim its us loli fanservice fans who are the pedos when I never tell anyone about any loli media unless asked and I deem trustworthy or I know I'm talking to someone who's already a fan.
Yes and no. They were right but for different, to me personally, wrong reasons. I oppose gay marriage because I knew it never stops there, no activism for anything ever just stops when it achieves it's goal, it's human nature to demand more, a rational, logical argument made from observation of history and humans in general. Conservatives opposed it because of their religious teachings, the same teachings that censors Japanese entertainment when it came westward. The end result may be the same but the road to get there is completely different.

I'll try and find it but there was a post on 4chan regarding cuteness aggression that you might already know of, I found it interesting.

the "slippery slope" is noticing the inevitable conclusions of your enemy's premises before they are ready to defend them
The "frog in boiling water" and "foot in the door" tactic's effectiveness is well understood, thus "muh slippery slope" was coined to throw you and lemmings off guard
I don't consider slippery slope to be a fallacy but just a simple observation of human nature, anyone that tries to throw it at you, inevitably wants to normalize the abnormal. Give this a watch if you haven't, it explains the process.

 
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KageBentou

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Oh right, we somehow all forgot about who's actually running ArcSys
ArcSys pandering to both China and fags. That is probably one of the most stupid decisions a (somewhat) niche Japanese game studio can make. They've alienated most of their fanbase both in Japan and overseas and now have to rely on either people who don't play their games and/or people who won't even have access to their game if it becomes to woke. ArcSys will suffer from this, but it is their responsibility to learn from this.
Guess I'll just sit back, not play GGST and enjoy the shit show.
 

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