Megathread Lolidrama

Grönsak

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If it happened to Shadman it can happen to any of us.
I don't think Shädman is formost a lolicon he's a Edgelord his art is made to provoke people more than anything. his early work is just gore. And he used to have a about me page where he talked about his wife dying. which I presume is bs. loli was just the new provocative thing he started doing around 2014-15 before that it was all gay shit then futa and nazi stuff became more of a thing later on. And he always seemed weird and unstable to me.
Especially this Midna drawing
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So while is a shame what happened I don't see most lolicons leaving cunny for drugs. Its just him going from steroids to hard drugs and he basically stopped doing art all together at this point.
 

Akamebigtits

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hahaha I'm sorry but I'm compelled to respond, I'm that kind of retard lol
Then I'll give my best spiel

wait, at least I always take all the bullshit very seriously, I usually don't open debates on twitter because I don't want to lose my account fighting against people who are not worth reasoning with, but here it's another story.
so if you are going to leave at least give me time to answer you.
If you are really interested in discussing it, of course

I'm sorry but my english is not very good and sometimes I don't understand things well, thank you for simplifying
for this I have the question
exactly why is it wrong? could you answer this?
and not, saying that it is the image of a child is wrong is not an answer, because in the end they are fictitious children drawn that do not resemble the real ones so there is absolutely no one that gets hurt in this process, so I still can not see where the problem is.

bro, but please, this is not an opinion thing, let's be open minded, it's science, it's like people who say the earth is flat and hide behind saying ''it's my opinion and you have to respect it'' lol to excuse themselves that their opinion is silly and anti-science, plus why give your opinion in the first place if you literally say you don't care to listen to others.
It's fine that it's your opinion but you have to realize that you're just making a fool of yourself and you can't be offended when people tell you what you're clearly showing yourself to be.
also wtf, opinion is that I say ''I don't like lolis because for me they look like children and I am not interested in that kind of taste``.
but to say that everyone who likes lolis that not have tits are pedophiles is not just an opinion, how do you expect people not to be offended by that lol.
everybody can have an opinion, but in the same way everybody should be aware of what kind of opinions we can have and when an opinion stops being just that and becomes directly something offensive or harmful or a meaningless prejudice.

this is where people who think like you get very confused.
if you go to a psychologist just because you are attracted to lolis' drawings, then you are wasting your money.
because it is important to know when to differentiate a pathological disorder from just a sexual attraction, which although people find it hard to admit is much more common than they think.
to put ourselves in context we will use something that falls within the Chronophilia and compare to see how there is much prejudice and ignorance behind this whole subject.
if a person is attracted to an elderly person, should he/she seek professional help? [Gerontophilia]
if a person is attracted to teenagers or young ppl, should he/she seek professional help? [ephebophilia]
in fact if we continue we will realize that there are paraphilias identified for all age ranges, so following your logic all the people on the planet should be going to therapy lol
that's why we have to differentiate when an paraphilia is in fact a mental disorder.
in fact it's funny because of all the chronophilias the only one included in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is pedophilia, but if you know about it you realize that there is no difference between this and other paraphilias lol

now it is important to determine that in order to be considered a mental disorder there must be a series of noticeable symptoms that affect the life and well being of the patient, these psychiatric symptoms can be various [the most common, anguish, depression, or in this case we are talking about can be seen as an intense and uncontrollable desire] but they are indicative that a disorder is present and that treatment is needed, in the same way as with a physical illness, after all, if a person is attracted to lolis, but does not affect anyone, is aware of what he is doing, does not result in symptoms and is in control of his desires, then I don't see what the problem is and it would be questionable whether he really has a mental disorder, so if he goes to therapy he would literally be wasting his time, since psychologists can only give tools to alleviate the symptoms of a [diagnosed] mental disorder and can do nothing more.
likewise this approach can be complex and not applicable to all cases, so it is very likely that a person who is attracted to girls is not necessarily attracted to boys and vice versa, so it would be quite questionable whether it applies to pedophilia in the first place. So these people who label lolicons as pedophiles are just jumping to conclusions without any basis.
So this can be summed up as:
1. a person who is attracted to children doesn't necessarily have to like loli.
2. a person who is attracted to lolis does not necessarily have to be attracted to children [much less reach an patological attraction which is very different and is what is most important to differentiate and what people like you do not differentiate].
3. pedophilia does not apply to all people who have ever been attracted to a child or have ever been aroused by a child for any reason.
3. pedophilia should not always be treated as a mental disorder [and I don't care what it says in the WHO manual these people are pathetic, as proof we only have to bear in mind that pedophilia is the only chronophilia that is included in the manual, although it does not differ in any way from the others].
4. and most importantly, pedophilia should never be treated as a prejudice problem, in the end it only causes more problems than it solves.
Also with so many people liking lolis I doubt there are really that many people with the mental illness lol and there is absolutely no indication of anything that would cause it, this alone sounds like a
5. Pedophilia [as a real mental disorder] is difficult to diagnose, and NO ONE should take such liberty without following proper procedures and diagnoses based on pseudoscientific or unfounded stupidities should not be taken for granted, because even if this may not seem like it, they cause many more problems than they believe.

Anyway, I don't know if you're going to read all this
but I think it is good to leave prejudices and see things in the correct way.

All this these prejudices are based on two very beautiful fallacies:
You like "children`s drawings", then you are a pedophile
and then
Pedophiles are bad and need urgent help

and few people are willing to reason outside of this lol
nobody thinks that the thing is really much more complex than this, that's why it is a fallacy.

In the end said like this, it is important to know that, even if it is proven that the lolicon are pedophiles, hypothetically, even so, I still do not see the problem lol
One I'm not offended by u or anyone else opinions here.
also, no one has to respect opinions but also no one has to be an asshole to that person for that opinion :/

I'm happy you took your time on this response and I respect you for doing that and not being an ass and actually pulling up facts to prove your point to me.

But I never said anything about oh that's a fact, I give what I thought of it, right or wrong that is my opinion of it

you don't have to respect it or anything but I'm not changing the way I think because of these facts but I get behind its a mental disorder and none of them are pedophiles but I was on about the ones drawing the NSFW drawings of loli's :/

I see you went on the highly defective route of a response, so sorry if my response is/was underwhelming, I can only type so much before I started fucking up due to my dyslexia but I get your message. gg
 

Akamebigtits

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ninja8tyu

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i wonder why every anti-lolicon is just, y'know
like, we all know it's just a drawing and we don't look further into it
and every argument against lolicon is just bloated as fuck

like, "IT ISN'T JUST A DRAWING, IT'S A SYMBOLIC REPRESENTATION OF A CHILD, WHICH IS PEDOPHILIA, AND-"
it's a drawing.

"NO IT ISN'TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IT LITERALLY DEPICTS A CARTOON CHILD, AND IT'S PEDOPHILIA, AND IT'S WRONG, AND-"
it's a drawing.

"OMGGGG THE LOGICAL LEAPS YOU FREAKS MAKE TO THINK THAT THE DRAWING ISN'T THE ABSTRACT DETAILIZATION OF A YOUTHFUL FIGURE AND THE CONCEPT OF A CHILD BEING SEXUALIZED, AND PEDOPHILIA IN ITS SUPER ABSTRACT FORM IS ANY FORM OF RELATION WITH A CHILD, THUS IT'S PEDOPHILIA, AND YOU'RE FREAKS, AND NEED TO BE KILLED-"
it's a drawing.

i'd humor their words if i were bored, but really, it's rather the same things.
they claim that there's some metaphysical tautology with fiction and abuse media, but it always just sounds so full of pseudo-intellectual bullshit from the depths of tumblr.
i personally found the fake essays on how sharks are smooth to be funny, but goddamn i'm surprised some people think they are smooth because some person on the internet said so.

it's a drawing.
there's really all there is to it.
everyone likes to make things complicated, and even those that simplify it to simple disgust still have the same convoluted reasons why they think everyone should die.
they whine about how it normalizes things, how it's no different to the brain, so on, so on
but like, you know NONE of these people are remotely intellectuals, nor passed with a degree in college that's actually of science or of intellectual utility.
at best a degree in literature/english arts or some fine arts degree, at worst a failed college dropout with huge college debt behind them.
and i've got to be honest: you don't even need any of those things to understand that it's just a drawing.


it's a rather simple test anyone can conduct.
look at a lolicon image.
if you don't feel the urge to assault a real kid, then ta-da. the alleged "normalization effect" either doesn't exist or doesn't affect you.
doesn't matter if you're a lolicon or not.
if it doesn't make you want to go out in the real world and stalk a playground, it's proof that either the effect doesn't exist or doesn't affect you.

of course, this test is essentially a survey, which is unreliable, because people can be dishonest or fake information to push one narrative or another.
however, it's enough to verify for the tester themselves that they're no threat, and they don't deserve to be treated as one.

of course, for those who actually do feel such an urge, professional help is the go-to, but even those who give a damn about human lives and well-being yet still fearful for their own can take the simple method of not looking at such media that raise such feelings to control themselves.

which is why i see anyone who whines about how they see a "LITERAL KID" and overreact to be a threat.
they failed the test, and assume that everyone else is like them.
but why are those people allowed to be creeps in the open while they rot as freaks?
they want to do the same things those other people want to do (they don't).
they feel the same things those other people do (they don't).
but only they are ostracized (they aren't).
and because bullies like to do what was once done to them, they pretend to be "normal" and preach about "wholesomeness" and "common sense" when they themselves lack it.

and it's precisely because of all those factors, where the complainer is often either the one who actually holds those abnormal feelings, or are abnormal in a different sense, that i don't remotely believe for a second those people are sinless and perfect as they claim and dictate, and are simply claiming that we have the same skeletons in our closet as they do theirs, but they omit the part where also have the same skeleton.


Case # - Type of PersonOpinion on LoliconReaction to LoliconBehaviorResponse
Case 1 - Normal LoliconPerson likes LoliconPerson doesn't feel the urge to assault someoneCares about human lifeWhat's the issue?
Case 2 - Normal PersonPerson dislikes LoliconPerson doesn't feel the urge to assault someoneCares about human lifeWhat's the issue?
Case 3 - Abnormal LoliconPerson likes LoliconPerson feels the urge to assault someone/Sees real kidCares about human lifeStay away from the media if it makes you feel that way. Seek trusted help.
Case 4 - Abnormal PersonPerson dislikes LoliconPerson feels the urge to assault someone/Sees real kidCares about human lifeStay away from the media if it makes you feel that way. Seek trusted help.
Case 5 - Autistic Unironic Loli Supremacy IdiotPerson likes LoliconPerson doesn't feel the urge to assault someoneDisregards human lifeA sex pest. Keep them out.
Case 6 - Tradcath, Brit, Aussie, any English-speaking nationality, and/or Assigned Child MarriagesPerson dislikes LoliconPerson doesn't feel the urge to assault someoneDisregards human lifeAn asshole, and probably a cultist or nationalist. Keep them out.
Case 7 - Projecting PedophilePerson likes LoliconPerson feels the urge to assault someone/Sees real kidDisregards human life/Has assaulted someoneA pedophile projecting onto lolicons.
Case 8 - Projecting Pedophile (Antis), Brit, Aussie, any English-speaking nationality, and/or Assigned Child MarriagesPerson dislikes LoliconPerson feels the urge to assault someone/Sees real kidDisregards human life/Has assaulted someoneA pedophile who despises lolicons.

maybe it's the fact that the people eventually caught to be sex abusers and pests show no regard for certain lives that i'm not remotely surprised they treat other certain lives as nothing more but tools of sexual pleasure.

people rarely make true exceptions; exceptions are often consistent with other rules unspoken and of different topic.
dehumanization is rarely an exception to one group of humans, and as far as i've seen in this world, that dehumanization includes innocent people.

i say this as if i'm an exception, but honestly, i think it's more revolting that people refuse to acknowledge their nature as humans, believing themselves to be all-good, that they're willing to ignore all the bad they do because they can't accept dark aspects of the human psyche, and continue to do horrible things in spite of the truth.
 

cunny poster

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I love that thread sad it's dead asf
also, thanks for showing off my other social media in the archive but also I hope no one goes on them discord servers and harass people
that's all I ask

also thanks for reminding me I have TikTok and amino I kinda forgot about them
I hope you followed both 😈
I dont have social media accounts, whats up with the devilish emote? cringe faggot
 

grapedApe

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https://archive.md/ESu0o

kyuotto gave up on her loli avatar, now sticks to her "true version" (a.k.a slightly less twitter unapproved typical moe girl) succubus because of mental health or some shit (so no reason to shit on her like nyanners).

I barely give a shit about vtubers (I only like gawr because she's a white haired shark loli), only gave kyuotto support (subbing, some comments in defense) because of the attacks on the loli succubus. She mentions following her just to support a loli agenda, that's kind of the reason for the follow (defending loli from the haters), cute anime girls like her new avatar are very common. If a anime ban passes big boob moe girls aren't first on the chopping block, that would cut into love live profits.

Without the loli succubus no reason for me to stick around.
 

ninja8tyu

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https://archive.md/ESu0o

kyuotto gave up on her loli avatar, now sticks to her "true version" (a.k.a slightly less twitter unapproved typical moe girl) succubus because of mental health or some shit (so no reason to shit on her like nyanners).

I barely give a shit about vtubers (I only like gawr because she's a white haired shark loli), only gave kyuotto support (subbing, some comments in defense) because of the attacks on the loli succubus. She mentions following her just to support a loli agenda, that's kind of the reason for the follow (defending loli from the haters), cute anime girls like her new avatar are very common. If a anime ban passes big boob moe girls aren't first on the chopping block, that would cut into love live profits.

Without the loli succubus no reason for me to stick around.
no, she's just bad at wording things, and clarified sometime after

she wants to use her true form more because she spent a lot of money on it, and will switch back to loli every now and then

it's old news as well, so
 

Hexasheep93

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no, she's just bad at wording things, and clarified sometime after

she wants to use her true form more because she spent a lot of money on it, and will switch back to loli every now and then

it's old news as well, so
I trust kyutto enough to believe she has good reasons behind her decisions. I dont watch vtubers but I support anyone whos been harrased by puritans.

I guess it also bears remembering that she was a victim of abuse (thats what she said at least) so even if she is reasonable to know the difference between fiction and reality too much of it may get a little grating idk thats just my opinion
 

Hexasheep93

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Of all the things to trust, you trust an e-girl. You absolute fools.
I mean I trust her not to pull a nyanners lol I am still dissapointed about the change, but if it really was on her on volition then thats fair I guess.

Also I guess its easier for me to say that since I dont watch vtubers I just like to support people that get harrassed by antis :shrug:
 

Hexasheep93

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I was really trying to just keep myself off of twitter idiocy but this is just some nonsense that I cant ignore.
Anothet push by the western idiots. Vice no less to ban drawings cause "think of the children"

Of course the author is one of those "japanese" people that live in America

The one comfort I have is that vice has lost so much credibility over time that I this idiocy should be quickly forgotten
 

cunny poster

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On one of the site's where i jannie there was a bit of drama over lolicon, so unprompted Kengle the admin of onion farms made a board about lolicon and shotacon.

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After a bit of criticism from lolcow.org or [do not link directly use archive.is} as theyre known on kiwi farms Kengle decided to make the lolicon and shotacon discussuon board private to only those who have accounts.
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Kengle later destroyed it, and to be quite honest I thought he was going to take away the broom i never asked for (he only made me jannie because i used to tard wrangle CWC pre motherfucking). and i wouldnt have minded but it was fun while it lasted.
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Hexasheep93

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On one of the site's where i jannie there was a bit of drama over lolicon, so unprompted Kengle the admin of onion farms made a board about lolicon and shotacon.

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After a bit of criticism from lolcow.org or [do not link directly use archive.is} as theyre known on kiwi farms Kengle decided to make the lolicon and shotacon discussuon board private to only those who have accounts.
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Kengle later destroyed it, and to be quite honest I thought he was going to take away the broom i never asked for (he only made me jannie because i used to tard wrangle CWC pre motherfucking). and i wouldnt have minded but it was fun while it lasted.
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To be fair disccussion of the topic rarely turns into something constructive, and it often devolves into a shouting match filled with insults and and ad hominems
 
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