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Balrog

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Better ban me if you want me to "fuck off", bozo. I've done nothing but argue in good faith and so far all you've offered in response is blatant denial, making shit + random insults. Hopefully some better users will look at this thread tomorrow, I've wanted to talk about this with someone with at least half a brain about this for a while and home you're not it.
I'm not a mod, retard and why would I ban you just for being retarded? Not everyone is like you and will throw a tantrum just because someone disagree with them. Only antis like you and those who parrots the same talking points do that.

If you use pre-made anti arguments, you're not arguing in good faith at all. Suggesting that because pedos breath air, everyone who breath air has 'overlaps' with pedos like you're doing can't be a good faith argument either, it's at best fallacious bullshit that doesn't hold up or at least purposefully misuse the word 'overlap' to create a connection where there is none.

Did you think you were having an argument with the 'admin of lolis' or some dumb LARPing shit?

Proving you wrong isn't what denial mean and neither is dismissing your empty assertion that we've got overlaps with pedos like you.

Nobody care about the fact that you're desperate to talk about your cope and want people to agree with it.

You're so mad you can't even write your gay rap punchline correctly. You're gonna end up behind bars anyway.
 

NretsewThePerv

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I love how the last part of my rant was completely fucken ignored
and on the people spewing shit about loli and its relation to pedo shit just see one of my many posts on this forum about abstraction as I don't feel like repeating myself. are there pedos both making and enjoying loli? sure. just like there are pedos making movies, games, books, and all kinds of media you like. pedos are fucken everywhere, you may or may not have come face to face with one IRL and you would never know. so there is no need to state the blatantly fucken obvious unless you are an anti trying to use it as some kind of gotcha, unless we got proof they doing crimes I don't fucken care

LiterallyRichter you are not fucken smart pointing out that some lolicons/loli artists CAN be pedos, it's not "nuanced" to point out the blatantly fucken obvious. ofc there are prob some loli artists out there who are pedos. but unless you show me some fucken proof of them going after real kids or being in the possession of real CP then shut the fuck up and fuck off. no one is impressed with this bullshit. it's just fucken annoying as lolicons want to distance themselves from real fucken pedos who do real fucken crimes but you seem hell-bent on connecting the two. and for what? so you can seem big brain on the internet it seems like based on how you post

the fact of the matter is this you don't have to be a pedo to be into lolicon and some pedos are into lolicon are both true statements, and also being into lolicon does not make one a pedo. like I said I'm not gonna repeat what I've said before about being attracted to abstraction over reality. but it's very relevant here

now stop fucken double posting and go get a room (make your own fucken thread about this topic so you can shit in there)
 

LiterallyRichter

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I love how the last part of my rant was completely fucken ignored


LiterallyRichter you are not fucken smart pointing out that some lolicons/loli artists CAN be pedos, it's not "nuanced" to point out the blatantly fucken obvious. ofc there are prob some loli artists out there who are pedos. but unless you show me some fucken proof of them going after real kids or being in the possession of real CP then shut the fuck up and fuck off. no one is impressed with this bullshit. it's just fucken annoying as lolicons want to distance themselves from real fucken pedos who do real fucken crimes but you seem hell-bent on connecting the two. and for what? so you can seem big brain on the internet it seems like based on how you post

the fact of the matter is this you don't have to be a pedo to be into lolicon and some pedos are into lolicon are both true statements, and also being into lolicon does not make one a pedo. like I said I'm not gonna repeat what I've said before about being attracted to abstraction over reality. but it's very relevant here

now stop fucken double posting and go get a room (make your own fucken thread about this topic so you can shit in there)
Oh I've got no problem with them being pedos, I'm not even sure why you're bringing the other stuff up. Just because they're pedophiles it doesn't mean they're involved in criminal activities, I don't know a single place on Earth where just being a pedophile lands you in jail. This is what I mean when I say you got 0 nuance. I'm not "hellbent on connecting the two" I just think saying loli has nothing to do with pedophilia is frankly a silly statement and it's creating a wave of annoying ironic lolicons that are gasping for air once they realize that some artists and publications are like the pedos that are supposed to be their (mortal) enemies!
 

NretsewThePerv

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Oh I've got no problem with them being pedos, I'm not even sure why you're bringing the other stuff up. Just because they're pedophiles it doesn't mean they're involved in criminal activities, I don't know a single place on Earth where just being a pedophile lands you in jail. This is what I mean when I say you got 0 nuance. I'm not "hellbent on connecting the two" I just think saying loli has nothing to do with pedophilia is frankly a silly statement and it's creating a wave of annoying ironic lolicons that are gasping for air once they realize that some artists and publications are like the pedos that are supposed to be their (mortal) enemies!

I love how you did not even read what I said you dumb cunt

I don't fucken care if you have no issue with them being pedos or not. I'm telling you pointing it out and making that connection is fucken meaningless and just causing the kind of bullshit we have seen all day in this thread.

and what the fuck are you even talking about with this shit, "I don't know a single place on Earth where just being a pedophile lands you in jail." well yea dip shit no fucken shit you have to commit a crime to get landed in jail. that doesn't make shit like fucken MAPs ok or welcome. like I assume you are trying to infer here with your line of reason "well maps have not gone out and diddled a kid yet so it's fine to allow them in lolicon spaces" or some shit

this is why everyone is calling you the fuck out and why you seem sketchy as shit, you are not as smart as you think you think

if you want to start a fucken pedo defence thread go on ahead. cuz that seems like what you want to do. just know people who are attracted to real kids are not welcome here. as even tho, you seem to not think there is. there is a difference between loli and real shit

otherwise, stop making blatantly fucken obvious statements
 

Scornful Gaze

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It's kind of what I'm trying to pry back in.
Which begs the question, why? Why do you care what a bunch of people in an obscure ass forum thinks about the subject? If you're just trying to get a laugh, I'll understand, but what's the endgoal of saying shit basically everyone already knows? Not being hostile I'm legit curious the rationale here because, I'll be honest, I'm legit surprised how much attention this place gets compared to its relative lack of activity or interesting posts.
 

ninja8tyu

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This has been slang on 4chan before Nil ever became infamous on lolicon twitter. Please. All of these arguments have been had before.
i really don't see the point nor really care enough about what's being said

i'm simply completely confused to what point this brings exactly

like what, exactly, is "lolicons are more closely related to pedophilia" supposed to be significant towards in the grand scheme of things

you all can argue about whatever the fuck pedophilia is like the retards on twitter thinking attraction to a 500-year old grandma
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is somehow pedophilia, because that term has lost all its meaning

no one ever makes that point as-is besides antis
because they want lolicons to admit that they're a "pedophile;" the attraction to the abstract properties related to youth, but not necessarily within the category of youth, because glasses are minor-coded now and beyonetta is actually a JC
and via double-speak, call them a pedophile; a child-raping monster who traumatizes children for life and may even kill them after their done using them as nothing more but a tool for their own pleasure

the fact you seem so utterly shocked that everyone here is calling you a pedophile projecting onto lolicons is rather a surprise, because i genuinely can't believe there's a person who's capable of communication yet so low-functioning that they fail to realize that simple thing and the general stigma related to that term, alongside carelessly accusing comic LO artists as pedophiles with only the reasoning that antis typically use rather than any firm proof.

and making bold claims like "lolicon artists are open about their pedophilia" without proof is pretty fucking much what antis always do
and i even doubt it's actual pedophilia either.

feel free to reiterate the fact that these ideas have been talked about in the past as if it has a point.
it doesn't change the fact they're just as stupid then as they are now.

you're rather insistent on making everyone agree on your notion that there's a giant overlap, but have no point beyond that
which leaves us to fill in the gaps

of all the possible connotations that presumes your unproven premise is true, and your attitude the entire time, it's either "we're also all technically pedophiles (already have/will develop an attraction for real children) for liking fictional children and that's okay," "utilizing minors as reference for adult works is not unethical (do i even need to explain this?)," and "we're hypocrites for (implied to be knowingly) supporting 'pedophiles' but not pedophiles"

so of course, people would get mad, because that presumes quite a bit about all of us individually and as a group, which is false.

feel free to call us idiots for being unable to comprehend the ideas created by your 177013-dimensional mind capable of abstract thought beyond mortal comprehension if you want
but it certainly won't change the fact we see you as a giant fucking retard who is without any reasonable doubt an anti, and if somehow not, still leaves several negative implications to what you are like in terms of personality, intelligence, wisdom, and ability to convey information.
 

Loliliberator_DQN

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Is this the part where the curtain falls and you guys admit that though distinct there is a closer link between pedophilia and lolicon than you'd like to admit? Bubbuka is not the only artist to just be openly a pedo(see Mammoth, Dorontabi and pretty much everyone who works with Comic LO).
I'm not going to deny that certain artist could fall into the category with bubbuka and shadman, But i recently had a conversation with Patrick W. Galbraith and the artist and publishers of LO have outspoken statements about pedophilia and it not having a connection to lolicon.
 
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