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Megathread Lolidrama

JX475

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I will just say i used to visit lolcow areas like Kiwifarms and even left wing areas and right wing arena's just for fun. Vaush strikes me as a person who has a problem of being honest about certain subjects because of a wider problem with far left wing circles, as much as the V for vendetta guy(MR.Obvious i think?) for far right circles when it was found out he was likes lollicon eroge(to which the right called him a pedo). For some reason it's like these extreme movements have a misunderstanding of lollicon as does the broader public. They label it as Child Porn or CP despite the fact it's not none of them look like real children or based off real characters, the FBI and government agencies even mention this as much to stop sending them emails and messages over it. I mean is Maid Dragon CP because Kanna is a loli? Is Jahy Child Porn because she is a lolli? Nagatoro? I mean none of them look like real children and do not even fit the definition because they have ridiculous proportions and facial features, none of them look like any realistic child at all. But somehow these types that go against lollicon, magically engage in CP themselves and date females vastly underage and do far worse than any lollicon ever does who just sits there in the corner and reads and watches lolli stuff. Double standards and misunderstandings will never cease to amaze me, American society is too low info because they do not know what Lollicon actually means, do not consume it, and do not understand it, but yet think it's CP. By most people's definition if you watched Evangelion and you found either Asuka or Rei of them attractive you would be engaging in CP because both Asuka and Rei are below 16 lol.
 

Xephavitos

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People I'm waiting for some evidence to drop on:
  • ContraPoints (She has gone on to defend trans children, and is literally paid (alongside PhilosophyTube) by the British intelligence agency for their videos, which is a government that will refuse to do anything about child trafficking rings because they don't want to appear racist towards illegal immigrants.
Heartbreaking, the worst person you know made a very good point. So I guess we can add ContraPoints to the list.
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grapedApe

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I follow Harmful Opinions on twitch but I've never heard anything about him being into loli, he's shit on it every time I've brought it up in his chat but more in a 'I don't want to talk about it' way.

edit: now I've got my foot in my mouth. Decided to catch a stream of his (February 16th 2024), he starts with the vaush drama by watching a keffals video about it (I don't want to hear that thing's voice) where he mentions that he agrees with the retardation that if you're interested in loli hentai then that must mean that you want to pork kids (around the 1:20:00-1:30::00 mark).

That was a easy drop, haven't regularly watched his streams for months and whenever I did he always plays some fucking silent hill/resident evil clone. My time is better spent on those who aren't going to shit on me.
 
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ninja8tyu

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reminder this is the same dude who enjoy watching deep web's video
pretty much

i've mentioned this in this megathread and other places, but again, people who bitch about lolis are 100% guaranteed to be morally bankrupt lmao

nigga 100% has cheese pizza on one of his hard drives from some dark web source he ain't publicly flaunting like the other shit he does
 

Xephavitos

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Richard Masucci from ReviewTechUSA: Attacking Sony's censorship policies, which people were trying to strawman others into thinking it "only targets loli content" when it wasn't just that. One of the big examples he listed in that video was Blue Reflection. His recent take about Vaush and loli content is questionable.
LOL! Grifters Gonna Grift!
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Xephavitos

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People I'm waiting for some evidence to drop on:
Add MeatCanyon/Papa Meat to the list of these people.

This is straight coal coming from the same guy that animated Rigby getting molested by Benson, and that follows a loli VTuber.


So it looks like he was following a loli vtuber, who he collaborated with, just to then unfollow, because he knows it would look bad on his image.

He also has pictures of naked babies in his likes:

This comment talking about the Ben 10 thing might be worth investigating:
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The most that I can see is that he did a Ben 10 animation where there was an insinutaion that Ben and Gwen were fucking, and a joke about Ben's penis being like a 50 year olds, which is extremely questionable given his own line of logic.
 
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Noeru

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I'm honestly considering that Meat is just trolling XD standing in front of a bookshelf full of manga & showing clips and anime containing the stuff he deems so very close to CP is peak comedy.

If he's genuine about this whole video then it's just sad..

"Bottom Line: Never expose yourself to those things because it'll turn you into a pedo"
- person who researched those things in detail to make a video about it, exposing everyone to it as well in the process

But yeah, here's me hoping it's just a big troll x3
 

grapedApe

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"Just trolling" is the same as "this is my real opinion" when it concerns loli. I'm not going to trust anyone going from "it's just drawings leave it alone" to "this should be banned lol I'm joking but not really but I am!".

flashgitz and meatcanyon pulled this "anime is for pedos" shit too often for me to believe they were just joking.
 

JX475

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"Just trolling" is the same as "this is my real opinion" when it concerns loli. I'm not going to trust anyone going from "it's just drawings leave it alone" to "this should be banned lol I'm joking but not really but I am!".

flashgitz and meatcanyon pulled this "anime is for pedos" shit too often for me to believe they were just joking.
It's just people that like to have their cake and eat it to in regards to fanbases. There are people who do this freedom of speech grift and then you find out they only like it when it is their kind of free speech and brigade users off of the site. People that are ironic do not deserve to be a voice for anything. It's just insecurity and those that will run at the drop of a hat.
 

YakuInTheFlesh

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On one hand it's obvious, that most of these people do it for the grift. It's currently popular to both shit on lolicon and on anime in general. Tourism has reached critical mass, to the point where it becomes profitable to incite drama. Because of that I wouldn't necessary jump on the "they have something to hide" bandwagon.
On the other hand though. Meat did just recently say he wanted to get away from drama, just to come out with this. This just feels like he wants to add some weights to his moral scale to prevent some nearing fallout that is about to happen. I wouldn't be surprised if some DMs of his leak with some damming stuff.

Also some of the comments under the video defending him are hilariously similar to the shit everyone else always says. "His sexualizing of under-aged characters is satire!", "There is nothing wrong with making fun of the Brady situation", "His characters don't look like children", etc.

On a different note. Why is it always the people who are against loli who bring up the "She's a 800 year old vampire / dragon" defense? I haven't heard/read that from anyone defending loli in a decade. The current thing people are saying ("It's a fictional character", "It's a drawing", etc) is almost never brought up. Almost like it would show just how focused these people are on seeing real children in anything sexual.
 

ninja8tyu

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Well it was never a good defense since it plays into the idea that the ages of fictional characters matter.
and it was a joke, it doesn't make it look better

no one likes to explain jokes, but that's quite literally it

"officer, i swear! she's only 500 years old!" is the frame
"sure as fuck doesn't look like it" is the telling
the loli agreeing and/or proving that is the case, the guy believing it anyway, and so on is the punchline

is how this usually goes, but for some reason, the website that banned porn allegedly because of a massive problem with child (real) rape and explicit content weren't so keen on letting others use it in real life

considering how much tumblrites think they can be the opposite gender so badly, i can imagine them playing out scenarios in their favorite fictions in real life didn't turn out so hot

pretty sure it was tumblr that spawned the girls from the slenderman stabbings at the time as well
 

PatioRama

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The frustrating thing about that strawman is when people try to explain the trope its talking about as a legal/moral loophole on the behalf of the creators somehow, when damn near every series that uses that trope also sexualizes actually "underaged" characters.

Monogatari and Dragon Maid have both lolibaba and actual loli/shouta characters, the lolibaba isn't there as a 'loophole'. Granted, expecting these people to actually do research into what they're talking about is a lost cause.

Dragon Maid being talked about as if its the anime equivalent of shit like When the Dead Go to Die is funny admittedly though that's only 'in a vacuum' so to speak.
 
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