Spider-Cunt
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Literal Autistic Nigger moment.
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If you're here for vtubers, I highly recommend you go to The Virtual Asylum instead.
They'll love you there
Well for one is admitedly kind of hard to say if things are getting worse with the public. Thats the issue with the silent majority, you cant never really know which way they go until they are made to decide.
As for our efforts. Well I guess I gotta ask what those efforts have been. Here we have people that call out censorship and even try to fix it, but the forum is small so there is not that many people.
What do you think or proppse you could do to help with the situation?
Spider-Cunt
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True. I probably worded it dramatically lol. But yeah you got a point. I guess it's like I said, I'm just feeling pessimistic.
sariel
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If you’re worried about legality, that probably won’t ever change. If you care how people see you, just don’t tell them what you jerk off to.
Its never been about not telling. You should be able to post your likes and dislikes like everyone else does. So long as you dont shove it on peoples faces.
Its on the other users to block whatever they dont like instead of throwing hisyfits whenever they see something they dont like
if you mean not being looked at as if you're a pedophile, nope
that's because the public lacks elementary forms of critical thinking, analysis, and autonomy
observe the parrots and what they echo
when parrots screech often at others, it's because they're rewarded for it; when a parrot says something wise, it's only because it heard something wise
you cannot make parrots smarter than what they're capable of
Nothing major, just more on that dumbass mangakamen because my youtube recs reminded me that he exists when I happily forgot that months ago.
He released a video on Yu-Gi-Oh ARC-V, he has some good points on some plot bits but like last time he felt the need to act sickened at the fact that the bracelet girls (Yuzu, Serena, Rin, Ruri) and Asuka/Alexis in GX wear mini skirts and end up mind controlled by the villains equating it to "underage" fetishization despite the fact that the also under 18 guys face the same fate and there's no bog standard hentai plot here, they are mind controlled to psychologically fuck with the MC in a goddamn card game, at no point did Serena decide to show the world her panties or make Asuka show her tits (unfortunately) while drawing Exodia or some shit.
He released a video on Yu-Gi-Oh ARC-V, he has some good points on some plot bits but like last time he felt the need to act sickened at the fact that the bracelet girls (Yuzu, Serena, Rin, Ruri) and Asuka/Alexis in GX wear mini skirts and end up mind controlled by the villains equating it to "underage" fetishization despite the fact that the also under 18 guys face the same fate and there's no bog standard hentai plot here, they are mind controlled to psychologically fuck with the MC in a goddamn card game, at no point did Serena decide to show the world her panties or make Asuka show her tits (unfortunately) while drawing Exodia or some shit.
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Think its less about stupidity and more about the will to publicly defend smut and porn, which people already don't have the guts to, let alone kinky porn.
Common example would be the censorship of genitalia of JAV actress, which makes no sense, but is perpetuated simply because who the fuck wants to be the guy to risk their political career to say, "Ummm, maybe we should remove the censorship from porn"
Basically, porn is easy to attack but hard to defend.
pedophile who redistributed csem came back 2 years later to block my abandoned twitter account before tagging me in a call-out post and complains about my misquoted comment
honestly the fact he's still got a little rage boner 2 years later for lolis and shit is amazing
at this point, being a corpse is a mercy, his faggoty little ass suffers more knowing i wank to lolis
The guy is an idiot for equating drawings as actual children, but he, and many others (myself included) were right that Dicey was and still is a pedophile.
Everyone ignored it when dice admitted to having nude photos of said 15 year old. Then last year, he "suddenly" becomes friends and starts defending a known pedophile.
The problem wasn't the relationship, it was him (and many others, some of which used to post here) mocking anyone questioning why he had CSEM. My favorite part was when he finally showed his true colors and all the people who defended him just pretended he never existed in the first place.
Everyone ignored it when dice admitted to having nude photos of said 15 year old. Then last year, he "suddenly" becomes friends and starts defending a known pedophile.
The problem wasn't the relationship, it was him (and many others, some of which used to post here) mocking anyone questioning why he had CSEM. My favorite part was when he finally showed his true colors and all the people who defended him just pretended he never existed in the first place.
i mean i defended him mostly out of principle rather than actually knowing who dicey was as a person and what he does, and not trusting an anti to be credible (the boy who cried wolf being this whiny faggot here) and didn't grasp the full situation and context, so i feel nothing personal toward him or this situation, nor have anything to hide
and not like pedo crusader here presents it as a serious accusation anyway, because if his main reason for calling someone a pedophile was because he was a lolicon/shotacon and solely bitching about that, and making "hey dicey has actual fucking illegal shit on his phone" an extraneous detail and actual facts obfuscated in a fuckton of lies, then i wouldn't take him seriously even now
as for him possessing that shit, i thought it was only on his "boyfriend's" public twitter that he himself posted from what little detail i got (wasn't tempted to find more of it to "verify" the truth, especially by redistributing said nudes, unlike the eager corpse here), and i mostly stayed away from most of the shit happening because it was a shitfest where nothing useful could be gleamed from anything lmao, so i can't say i know what happened with his more fervent defenders
and well, as bad as this sounds, a gay non-binary (iirc) furry turns out to be a pedophile? that's as surprising as the sun rising the next day kek
I just think that given the situation where someone underage was involved, that even if it's an anti that's making a scene, stepping back and analyzing what's going on is an important thing to do. One should disregard the obvious emotional outburst (won't someone think of the anime girl, age gap), and should pay attention to what dice himself was saying. Sharing questionable posts from his "boyfriend" should have been a red flag for anyone involved.
I think what ticked me off the most was that people were sharing the main picture, the "short skirt thigh" shot, as if it was no big deal. As if it was something a 15 year old should be sharing and spreading around. People actually tried to argue it wasn't sexual in nature.
I get that not everyone is an analyst, but that whole situation just reinforced my hatred for social media. It showed just how quick people were ready to hand wave questionable behavior because either they were questionable themselves (calling the picture cute and spreading it around) or because they didn't like what some people were focusing.
Despite all that, I do agree that these antis are just fucking idiots. They focus on the most pointless shit and just make insane rants all the while ignoring the problems surrounding their own friend groups.
Anyway, this shit is like two years old now so it's basically the beginning of time for the internet.
You would think all copies of that image would be rightfully taken down off the Internet.
One would think that, but Twitter, before Elon, was previously on record refusing to remove a sex video of a 17 year old boy. While I'm not sure if I'm remembering right, I believe the video was taken when he was 15.
well that might explain why corpse there is still using twitter 2 years later crying about lolis
his favorite channels for child rape are probably still alive and running on the site that originally allowed that shit
Alys
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Who's gonna stop me? The moral police?
This is late but eh. I doubt it'll ever be deemed as normal. That being said, I also do think that the hate that has ramped up over the years has something to do with how sex-negative people have become nowadays. I mean, it's not even just lolis that get hated on -- but people who have smaller, more youthful bodies. Full grown adults, but get called pedo-bait or people that like them are called pedos... For an adult.
I have a feeling that if things become more sex positive, while lolicon will always be considered "odd", it can at least be ignored to a higher degree than it does in current day.
Sex negativity comes down to the fact we have a combination of these 3 things in society.
1. Lazy Activists who do not go after actual Pedophiles and predators, but instead try to make up low hanging fruit by associating pictures of lollicon with actual children for likes on Twitter or pats on the head on social media. You see these people everywhere because kids here are terminally ill online and can not get off the internet. Good news is though they never go beyond their safe sites and are like Boomers in that way.
2. Those who psychologically project, they always hate lollicon, but like Shota or Furry Porn, or even worse actual CP. I have even read a statement that went like "Lollicon's like Lolli's because they are pedophiles they just do not wish to admit it" projecting their own guilt. People who usually like Lolli's tend to like short ladies, which like you mentioned they seem to confuse with actual children. It shows how biased they are and how they see the world vs how ordinary people see the world like any of us do.
3. Group think and low info types that hate lollicon or fanservice because it's popular to do and they dedicate their lives around it like #1 but are different in that it's due to narcissism and attention seeking than activism for any actual cause.
I agree it will go away, it's like those who hate fanservice in Anime, they still exist and make videos to this day. But their voices have become irrelevant as time has went on because everyone who believed in it watched more anime and either 1. Liked it 2. decided that it's apart of Japanese culture or finally 3. they moved onto a different hobby altogether. The same will be true with Lollicon, sure people will still say it's bizarre, there will even be remnants of people who say they hate it, but their voices will not be as loud or as popular as it once was, and most will just gloss over them like they do with those that still talk about violence or rape in video games.
I dislike it when people use that meme as it's annoying and i think the general population found it cringe. But i will also say you are a dumb person as a whole who does not understand anything at all by loosely grouping everyone together without knowing what you are talking about.
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So I'm not sure if anyone is aware about this, but the Vaush situation is strange. For those who don't know, he got caught on stream with loli hentai and horse porn in one of his folders. And his entire history with debating for actual pedo shit, him molesting his pet lizards, and other things came to light.
But something isn't sitting right with me about the situation. On the Vaush stream, you can tell that he's currently in a OneDrive folder. OneDrive, iCloud, Discord, and Google all have tools that use known hashes to detect CSAM, so I can look at that in good faith. Microsoft uses PhotoDNA and has policies that say that you can't use their cloud service for CSAM.
The fact that he was grifting and lied to his fanbase of far-left leaning fandom police that were already trying to ruin the anime community like they did with gaming and other things, makes me wonder if he's done worse. But according to that folder, I don't think anything damning that we haven't already seen is in those folders. Even if I think his hard drive should be looked at based on his previous history alone. The real issue here is his lying.
Now onto the topic of the whole situation. There's a bunch of YouTubers and livestreamers that are virtue signaling and trying to pedojacket him, not for his previous statements, but for the singular image of Matsuri (the Hololive VTuber), when that's the least egregious thing he has done.
So I've put together a list of all of the major people playing into this. NOTE that I don't entirely agree with some of these points, I'm just bringing them up to highlight the blatant hypocrisy of these people.
If people are going to turn this into a glorified cancel culture situation, we may as well have it blow up in the canceler's faces.
A list of major players, how they've been exposed for being sexpests, pedophile enablers, inconsistencies in their statements, or having blatant agendas in the Vaush situation going on:
Ethan Klein: Admitted to thinking Korra from The Legend of Korra is hot, she's underaged. He's also a zionist.
Tipster: This should be self-explanatory. He has defended other people with loli content before, but is now just being a virtue signaling mong about it now, because Keemstar and others have been constantly pedojacketing him.
Keffals: The Catboy Ranch, enough said.
The Quartering: Caught protecting pedophiles by telling them to "simply delete the files off their computer" when that's not a secure erasing procedure. He admitted to looking through people's files back when he was repairing computers, and seeing things like porn, so it's entirely possible that he has actually watched CSAM. He was also, according to twitter SJWs, acting gross about the SheRa show.
Brittany Venti: Friends with a groomer named Anthony Cumia, still on cope mode over Gawr Gura.
Boogie2988: Dating someone a third of his age, admitting to not wanting a child because he'd sexually abuse them, can't shut up around a voc rehab interview because he said he wouldn't get a job because people thinks he's a pedo.
Keemstar: Was talking to a 15 year old, profited off pedophiles like Wings of Redemption and Boogie2988 on his lolcow podcast. Wings of Redemption was caught talking to minors in a R6S voice chat in a sexual way, and said that he would cut child pornography at around the age of 12. He is still malding over anime avatars on Twitter and calling them "bots".
Turkey Tom: Got cucked by Lerix who apparently is a lolicon, AND willingly stayed with his girlfriend afterwards, which is worse than anything iDubbbz did. I guess bonus points for Lerix being the one to break the news that MamaMax was a grifter that faked a lot of his videos, and that makes it funny considering Turkey Tom and Nicholas DeOrio's podcast let him have a platform. MamaMax also had a hentai review series on YouTube before it got taken down by himself.
Mutahar (From Some Ordinary Gamers): Admitted on a podcast to liking hentai with school girls in it, has Nux Taku on his podcast who made jokes about liking underaged characters in western cartoons, also associated with Nyanners, which was a explicitly loli youtuber before she went on the troll's remorse route due to fandom police)
Richard Masucci from ReviewTechUSA: Attacking Sony's censorship policies, which people were trying to strawman others into thinking it "only targets loli content" when it wasn't just that. One of the big examples he listed in that video was Blue Reflection. His recent take about Vaush and loli content is questionable.
Wings of Redemption:
I need to corroborate a source on this, but it's possible that you can add Wings of Redemption to the list, as Wings007 (a channel dedicated to documenting hijinx involving Wings has mentioned the whole situation).
For those who don't know about Wings of Redemption, I covered some of the things he said and did in the Keemstar section.
People I'm waiting for some evidence to drop on:
But something isn't sitting right with me about the situation. On the Vaush stream, you can tell that he's currently in a OneDrive folder. OneDrive, iCloud, Discord, and Google all have tools that use known hashes to detect CSAM, so I can look at that in good faith. Microsoft uses PhotoDNA and has policies that say that you can't use their cloud service for CSAM.
The fact that he was grifting and lied to his fanbase of far-left leaning fandom police that were already trying to ruin the anime community like they did with gaming and other things, makes me wonder if he's done worse. But according to that folder, I don't think anything damning that we haven't already seen is in those folders. Even if I think his hard drive should be looked at based on his previous history alone. The real issue here is his lying.
Now onto the topic of the whole situation. There's a bunch of YouTubers and livestreamers that are virtue signaling and trying to pedojacket him, not for his previous statements, but for the singular image of Matsuri (the Hololive VTuber), when that's the least egregious thing he has done.
So I've put together a list of all of the major people playing into this. NOTE that I don't entirely agree with some of these points, I'm just bringing them up to highlight the blatant hypocrisy of these people.
If people are going to turn this into a glorified cancel culture situation, we may as well have it blow up in the canceler's faces.
A list of major players, how they've been exposed for being sexpests, pedophile enablers, inconsistencies in their statements, or having blatant agendas in the Vaush situation going on:
Ethan Klein: Admitted to thinking Korra from The Legend of Korra is hot, she's underaged. He's also a zionist.
Tipster: This should be self-explanatory. He has defended other people with loli content before, but is now just being a virtue signaling mong about it now, because Keemstar and others have been constantly pedojacketing him.
Keffals: The Catboy Ranch, enough said.
The Quartering: Caught protecting pedophiles by telling them to "simply delete the files off their computer" when that's not a secure erasing procedure. He admitted to looking through people's files back when he was repairing computers, and seeing things like porn, so it's entirely possible that he has actually watched CSAM. He was also, according to twitter SJWs, acting gross about the SheRa show.
Brittany Venti: Friends with a groomer named Anthony Cumia, still on cope mode over Gawr Gura.
Boogie2988: Dating someone a third of his age, admitting to not wanting a child because he'd sexually abuse them, can't shut up around a voc rehab interview because he said he wouldn't get a job because people thinks he's a pedo.
Keemstar: Was talking to a 15 year old, profited off pedophiles like Wings of Redemption and Boogie2988 on his lolcow podcast. Wings of Redemption was caught talking to minors in a R6S voice chat in a sexual way, and said that he would cut child pornography at around the age of 12. He is still malding over anime avatars on Twitter and calling them "bots".
Turkey Tom: Got cucked by Lerix who apparently is a lolicon, AND willingly stayed with his girlfriend afterwards, which is worse than anything iDubbbz did. I guess bonus points for Lerix being the one to break the news that MamaMax was a grifter that faked a lot of his videos, and that makes it funny considering Turkey Tom and Nicholas DeOrio's podcast let him have a platform. MamaMax also had a hentai review series on YouTube before it got taken down by himself.
Mutahar (From Some Ordinary Gamers): Admitted on a podcast to liking hentai with school girls in it, has Nux Taku on his podcast who made jokes about liking underaged characters in western cartoons, also associated with Nyanners, which was a explicitly loli youtuber before she went on the troll's remorse route due to fandom police)
Richard Masucci from ReviewTechUSA: Attacking Sony's censorship policies, which people were trying to strawman others into thinking it "only targets loli content" when it wasn't just that. One of the big examples he listed in that video was Blue Reflection. His recent take about Vaush and loli content is questionable.
Wings of Redemption:
I need to corroborate a source on this, but it's possible that you can add Wings of Redemption to the list, as Wings007 (a channel dedicated to documenting hijinx involving Wings has mentioned the whole situation).
For those who don't know about Wings of Redemption, I covered some of the things he said and did in the Keemstar section.
People I'm waiting for some evidence to drop on:
- ContraPoints (She has gone on to defend trans children, and is literally paid (alongside PhilosophyTube) by the British intelligence agency for their videos, which is a government that will refuse to do anything about child trafficking rings because they don't want to appear racist towards illegal immigrants.
- Harmful Opinions
- Nicholas DeOrio (Although he technically is responsible for similar things to TurkeyTom by giving MamaMax a platform)
- BlowBlax (Typical Twitter retard that constantly makes content on what the Twitter freaks say about things)
- Think Before You Sleep
yeah this entire vaush shitfest is literally a soyjak civil war
it's literally a bunch of faggots with black histories waging war on another creator with black history
not because of the years of that horse fucker advocating for the lowering of the age of consent and distributing child rape media through paid means is morally okay, but because of a drawing
considering no one has a problem with any of vaush's previous hot takes, but with the drawings (not even the horse cock ai ones), it's so beautifully close to them all just admitting that they were completely fine with (i'd even argue they wanted the same thing as) vaush's talking points until the anime was involved
it's literally a bunch of faggots with black histories waging war on another creator with black history
not because of the years of that horse fucker advocating for the lowering of the age of consent and distributing child rape media through paid means is morally okay, but because of a drawing
considering no one has a problem with any of vaush's previous hot takes, but with the drawings (not even the horse cock ai ones), it's so beautifully close to them all just admitting that they were completely fine with (i'd even argue they wanted the same thing as) vaush's talking points until the anime was involved