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Zurathetix

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I think the main problem overall is more complicated than that. Compile Heart has also run into issues putting fanservice games on Steam. Because Steam is also weird on it's approval process that it's a coin flip on what get's approved overall. Let me give an example. With Genkai Tokki: Seven Pirates this was published with Sony, but they move it to Steam, Steam does not approve of it because of it's loli characters(despite the fact that other games have loli characters) EastAsiaSoft grabs the license and publishes it on Switch's Eshop and allows physical copies to be distributed. This has been the same for Moero Crystal H, despite Moero Chronicle being approved for Steam.

If Steam was not so weird on the approval process i think Compile Heart and IFI would be going into this direction pretty easily, i mean Japanese users are 20 million on Steam, Anime fans are basically another 10-15 million on top of it. They now have to figure out a way to keep fanservice in, while also not trying to be denied on Steam and getting away from Sony, both that i do not think they can do because they rely on money and need to release everywhere. It's very confusing to think about. Sony retroactively censors so other platforms receive it, but also Steam is so weird on it's approvals because there is some Trans type that hates men and most likely has it for Anime and Lolli characters as a whole. I can not help but to sympathize with them on this because it's the worst of both worlds for fanservice. I wish there was an easier solution and that the industry stopped being fanservice negative about anything and everything, even in regards to fictional characters that society thinks are real.

EDIT: Now that i think about it, the same thing happened with Dungeon Travelers 2-2 and 2-2 EX for Aquaplus despite Dungeon Travelers 1 being on PC.
Didnt say that it wasnt complicated, but they never took steps to actually show any initiative for workarounds like DT being released on other stores or other platforms being not censored while the prude ones receiving neutered versions (like Omerabi). Genkai Tokki is dead and buried but thank the gods for Eastasiasoft for the switch physical collectors edition stuff, hope they do castle panzers next so that atleast the whole collection will still be there in this day and age. Mary Skelter Finale was censored for all platforms and now the series is dead (they could have just censored ps/steam versions). Death End Request series even keeps censoring fucking costumes after the first game....All their other series' are dead except for Neptunia which they keep on milking and ofcourse nowadays neptunia is the safest shit there is. The senran kagura collab game is a joke and a reminder that we cant have nice things anymore. Sure I can sympathize with the whole "everyone is now against us" thing but I expected them to do atleast something about it and not just give up. Next time they get any money from me will be through EAS if Castle Panzers happens.
Complie heart is part of idea factory right? well honestly this is what they get them losing buisness because they keep pandering to lolcow otome fans if you ask me.
Idea Factory otome division existed since long before any of this and alongside Compile Heart glory days. What does otome or otomefags have to do with any of this?
 

JX475

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Something i just thought about earlier and had a huge realization. Notice how they never said Global Audience. But Global Niche. I am starting to think it's an indirect shoutout to people like us and that they hear us, we are not Japanese, we are overseas outside of Japan and we are not a big mainstream audience, so we are niche thus being called Global(Overseas) Niche(us not the mainstream that SEGA,Capcom etc talk about). The reason why they would rather have a global niche is because people like us buy their games, do not complain and do not demand censorship, we also are not bleeding them dry right now like what is happening with Marvelous, Capcom, SEGA etc. We are hardly different from the Japanese Otaku. I think this is them giving us a shoutout and appreciating the fact we are putting up with this.

The reason why I think this, is because Idea Factory/Compile Heart has realized recently that Nin Nin Ninja(Aka Neptunia X Senran Kagura) was the final straw in the 1st photo and the sole reason they are changing everything.

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They are done with Sony and moving multiplatform due to the overwhelming criticism from the Global Niche audience about not putting itself on Switch/PC day 1 instead, and no longer follow the censorship guidelines. Which is why in Photo 2.

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They say "we are pursuing multiplatform for the Global Niche audience" and are "changing the way we make games for the Global Niche Audience" it's basically them saying to us "we hear you and we are going to do just that". This does not mean they are not going to listen to Japanese Otaku, they will, but it was a shoutout by the end of the day to those who buy their games, and like the fanservice content they make. They do not want the mainstream mass market audience(Global Audience) they do not make games for them as a whole as stated in the 1st sentence above. They are happy being the niche we like them as.
 
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PhantomXero1x

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Didnt say that it wasnt complicated, but they never took steps to actually show any initiative for workarounds like DT being released on other stores or other platforms being not censored while the prude ones receiving neutered versions (like Omerabi). Genkai Tokki is dead and buried but thank the gods for Eastasiasoft for the switch physical collectors edition stuff, hope they do castle panzers next so that atleast the whole collection will still be there in this day and age. Mary Skelter Finale was censored for all platforms and now the series is dead (they could have just censored ps/steam versions). Death End Request series even keeps censoring fucking costumes after the first game....All their other series' are dead except for Neptunia which they keep on milking and ofcourse nowadays neptunia is the safest shit there is. The senran kagura collab game is a joke and a reminder that we cant have nice things anymore. Sure I can sympathize with the whole "everyone is now against us" thing but I expected them to do atleast something about it and not just give up. Next time they get any money from me will be through EAS if Castle Panzers happens.

Idea Factory otome division existed since long before any of this and alongside Compile Heart glory days. What does otome or otomefags have to do with any of this?
cause otome fans are the ones who usually enable bunch of woke shit imo.
 

Xephavitos

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They make their games for Playstation though, which means following their censorship policy. Unless they make two versions like Omega Labyrinth did then I guarantee their games are censored in development with that policy in mind.

Also "global" niche market is a red flag. They should make their games for the Japanese niche market, which is what people who like Japanese media outside of Japan like to play.
Interestingly enough, there's this bit regarding the overseas market in the interview, which makes me wonder if it contradicts:
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Xephavitos

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now the only "news" is that they are following the "multiplatform" strategy to keep themselves afloat.
Interestingly enough, this is even bullshit when you consider that only one of their upcoming games has a Steam release confirmed, and GameMaker REvolution doesn't have a Steam release confirmed despite the English localization being announced.

That and the Switch version of Neptunia: Sisters vs Sisters has two new characters, some improvements to battle animations, and a far better photo mode, that even the Xbox version isn't getting, and isn't coming to PC, PS4, or PS5 either.

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Xephavitos

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cause otome fans are the ones who usually enable bunch of woke shit imo.
Yeah, they were quick to get IdeaFactory International to delay the Cupid Paradise localization due to being rushed, and yet they didn't delay Mary Skelter Finale for far worse issues regarding it's localization. Apparently otome games are now what IFI prioritizes now.

Like typos, inconsistencies with the previous games, and laughable stuff like this (Yes, this is also a thing on the Switch/PS4 version):

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Xephavitos

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Something i just thought about earlier and had a huge realization. Notice how they never said Global Audience. But Global Niche. I am starting to think it's an indirect shoutout to people like us and that they hear us, we are not Japanese, we are overseas outside of Japan and we are not a big mainstream audience, so we are niche thus being called Global(Overseas) Niche(us not the mainstream that SEGA,Capcom etc talk about). The reason why they would rather have a global niche is because people like us buy their games, do not complain and do not demand censorship, we also are not bleeding them dry right now like what is happening with Marvelous, Capcom, SEGA etc. We are hardly different from the Japanese Otaku. I think this is them giving us a shoutout and appreciating the fact we are putting up with this.

The reason why I think this, is because Idea Factory/Compile Heart has realized recently that Nin Nin Ninja(Aka Neptunia X Senran Kagura) was the final straw in the 1st photo and the sole reason they are changing everything.

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They are done with Sony and moving multiplatform due to the overwhelming criticism from the Global Niche audience about not putting itself on Switch/PC day 1 instead, and no longer follow the censorship guidelines. Which is why in Photo 2.

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They say "we are pursuing multiplatform for the Global Niche audience" and are "changing the way we make games for the Global Niche Audience" it's basically them saying to us "we hear you and we are going to do just that". This does not mean they are not going to listen to Japanese Otaku, they will, but it was a shoutout by the end of the day to those who buy their games, and like the fanservice content they make. They do not want the mainstream mass market audience(Global Audience) they do not make games for them as a whole as stated in the 1st sentence above. They are happy being the niche we like them as.
Interesting interpretation of it.
 

Narmy

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Interestingly enough, this is even bullshit when you consider that only one of their upcoming games has a Steam release confirmed, and GameMaker REvolution doesn't have a Steam release confirmed despite the English localization being announced.

That and the Switch version of Neptunia: Sisters vs Sisters has two new characters, some improvements to battle animations, and a far better photo mode, that even the Xbox version isn't getting, and isn't coming to PC, PS4, or PS5 either.

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What this tells me is that they develop with the lowest common denominator in mind. They may add stuff on top of it later for another platform, but it doesn't change that the base game is compromised in development.
 

JX475

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Yeah, they were quick to get IdeaFactory International to delay the Cupid Paradise localization due to being rushed, and yet they didn't delay Mary Skelter Finale for far worse issues regarding it's localization. Apparently otome games are now what IFI prioritizes now.

Like typos, inconsistencies with the previous games, and laughable stuff like this (Yes, this is also a thing on the Switch/PS4 version):

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I will need a source of the Otome games they have been producing. Because if anything that seems like Arksys lately, they even had their original creator of Guilty Gear leave and all they can do is basically spam Otome VN's and licenses all throughout the year and now they are publishing just two VN that are not even popular and make you wonder who even asked for them. Like always i do not hate Otome or any other genre, but it bothers me when a company prioritizes it to where they would rather bleed money than to make money. It's backwards.

Honestly i think Mary Skelter needs a compilation thread and also some mods to fix any issues it has on PC as a whole especially performance and bad localization issues. It might be that IFI is stretching itself thin and why they are reorganizing to make their games better for Switch/PC. But we still need to see what happens next with IFI/Compile Heart.
 

Zurathetix

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Interestingly enough, this is even bullshit when you consider that only one of their upcoming games has a Steam release confirmed, and GameMaker REvolution doesn't have a Steam release confirmed despite the English localization being announced.

That and the Switch version of Neptunia: Sisters vs Sisters has two new characters, some improvements to battle animations, and a far better photo mode, that even the Xbox version isn't getting, and isn't coming to PC, PS4, or PS5 either.

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First part is retarded, like what game did CH put out on "other" platforms that had to be changed when they only put out games on playstation and were hit by sony censorship policies themselves? like what? I had to check the original japanese article to see if there was translation error but no its exactly what he said...like what the actual fuck is he talking about?
For the second part yeah they put out different versions on different hardware and sounds like they are not going to do that anymore? idk

I know Mary Skelter Finale is a censorship shitshow because IFI caved in to the Ghostlight's "advice" but was its localization a botched job too?
You are thinking of Mary Skelter 2 for steam that is censored but got an uncensored patch offsite (?), released uncensored on switch. Mary Skelter Finale was censored in production for all platforms as they completely removed "purification" altogether from the game. Dunno about localization personally because I dont touch censored shit.

Not directed at anyone specifically, like interpreting this interview as a "good thing" or blaming otome while not understanding the whole picture is cool and all but call me when CH puts out an actual ecchi game like the old days.
 
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PhantomXero1x

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Yeah, they were quick to get IdeaFactory International to delay the Cupid Paradise localization due to being rushed, and yet they didn't delay Mary Skelter Finale for far worse issues regarding it's localization. Apparently otome games are now what IFI prioritizes now.

Like typos, inconsistencies with the previous games, and laughable stuff like this (Yes, this is also a thing on the Switch/PS4 version):

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Otome fans would still buy it tho because daddy uwu gojo kun sexy and mary skelter bad. :/
 

Narmy

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Nihonsei is a blog made by anonymous localizers, they made an article on why they cover each other:
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>to keep our jobs
If you want to keep your jobs then compete for higher standards, don't collude to lower the standards. That may work in a field that is essential, but localization is far from essential.
 

JX475

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Nihonsei is a blog made by anonymous localizers, they made an article on why they cover each other:
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What happened when you had to do your job before but you were to lazy to do it right the first time? Or when you had everyone in America bring up the censorship on Manga, Anime and Video Gamee and laziness but you told them to learn Japanese? At some point you get what you deserve for being lazy and doing a bad job, otherwise you would not have people celebrating you getting replaced by an AI. It's a bunch of people that are nepotistic and lazy anyways because they minmax the system doing less work for more money, and make up fake complaints about how hard it is to be in these industries but will never show their wages because it's a lie.
 

VidMasterEon

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Nihonsei is a blog made by anonymous localizers, they made an article on why they cover each other:
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>you should highlight good translators instead
we should highlight and praise skilled and well made TLs even though those are a rare as a hen with teeth
the matte of fact is that using the stick instead of the carrot produces faster, noticeable, and more effective results
This isnt even taking into account that this like everything is an ideological one with clear friend/enemy lines and that a localizer that values TL integrity could even make it up the ladder as you admit it is about who you know

>it is about protecting our jobs
very well
you will hang together instead of separately
 

JX475

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Lmao, we warn these wokealizers this was coming.
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Thank you Indian man!

Also I might have found another company everyone should keep their eyes on and perhaps even send to friends. I found this on Twitter and someone brought up the work ethic of this certain company.

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Here is a wikipedia in case people think i am making this up.

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I looked in


I found a lot of companies we know who outsource to them.

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Amazing just amazing. The rot goes deeper than anything i could have imagined. Jesus. Japanese Companies who go with this need to be starved, and it's no wonder why Kadokawa pulled Elden Ring away from Bandai Namco.
 
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JX475

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Also sorry for the double post, but there is a page about Keywords Studios Inc which is the second company this guy mentioned and is the one that is supposedly worse than Lionbridge.

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EDIT: Forgot this gem in the link below. Funny how it's about cultural sensitivity and compliance, but then they say desire authenticity lol.
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Dye'd hair, and talking about Colonialism Globalism! so they can be the arbiters of what we get to see and read. Hopefully someone can get the word out and do more research than i just did, but this is some crazy stuff.
 
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Xephavitos

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Honestly i think Mary Skelter needs a compilation thread and also some mods to fix any issues it has on PC as a whole especially performance and bad localization issues.
About the localization issues, there was someone by the name of Eusis Landale that you can find on the GameFAQs forum that did some tweets and some other posts on there essentially highlighting a ton of issues with the MSF localization. Shame this isn't a straight thread, because that would make it easier to actually archive. Trust me, these tweets are up, I tried adding markdown to my Obsidian notes regarding this, and that also is flipping out, has something to do with the embeds.

There were also some problems with the second game's localization (Mainly Tsuu (a female who cross-dresses as a male and wants to be nyngo-hime's prince) referring to her and Jack as "brothers" in the localization, when it originally said "sibling", and Tsuu being named as "Otsuu" in the localization). I gotta dig up some more info about specifics that I saw on the GameFAQs forum for these games. I also recall hearing something about the localizers on that project being extremely defensive for some reason, but I'll have to try and dig up a source on that one.

I am going to have to say that there's obvious spoilers, but I figured I'd document the tweets here:

https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1446289524829478912
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1446196719406907395
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1445973624175808512
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1445876499618271233
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444921532677951488
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444910633183420416
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444847061610885124
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444730916421574656
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444120905106423809
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444114101140013058
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444068988342833153
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1444045404039835651
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443818520421158915
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443779562626641928
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443398734063149057
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443368272787767300
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443359313892761603
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443355692073570304
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443354014708494340
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443348416575148034
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443327123645616130
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443326199653036040
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443322676534071298
https://twitter.com/Eusis_Landale/status/1443316586899664898
 
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