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grapedApe

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What is the outrage even about? The video does not contain anything sexual or sexualizing and from what google subtitles show the lyrics are essentially her just being smug.
These freaks think any young girl saying zako = mesugaki = loli hentai when the video is more like Takagi-san with a bit of Nagatoro.
 

s8n

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These freaks think any young girl saying zako = mesugaki = loli hentai when the video is more like Takagi-san with a bit of Nagatoro.
that's a willful mischaracterization, you fully understand that the lyrics and graphics refer to pornographic material depicting minors having sex with adults and you're harming your position by lying about it (unless that's your intent, in which case you are false-flagging)

the panda says:
Mesugaki: A child who acts in a haughty, domineering, and temptatious manner, typically toward those of a higher hierarchical position in age and/or status, often by mocking and degrading them.
Category: contextual
Notes: Requires the lolicon or shotacon tag. If the child drops the behavior during sex, the whole scene still counts towards presence.
Gender: The gender of the mesugaki determines if the tag is placed in the female or male namespace.
Japanese: メスガキ、オスガキ


Jisho says:
メスガキ : noun
cheeky, vulgar brat; impudent young temptress


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the content is unarguably explicitly sexual
 

DosonTheIrate

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that's a willful mischaracterization, you fully understand that the lyrics and graphics refer to pornographic material depicting minors having sex with adults and you're harming your position by lying about it (unless that's your intent, in which case you are false-flagging)

the panda says:
Mesugaki: A child who acts in a haughty, domineering, and temptatious manner, typically toward those of a higher hierarchical position in age and/or status, often by mocking and degrading them.
Category: contextual
Notes: Requires the lolicon or shotacon tag. If the child drops the behavior during sex, the whole scene still counts towards presence.
Gender: The gender of the mesugaki determines if the tag is placed in the female or male namespace.
Japanese: メスガキ、オスガキ


Jisho says:
メスガキ : noun
cheeky, vulgar brat; impudent young temptress


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the content is unarguably explicitly sexual
You're harming your position by using terms like "minor" when you don't even know what that means. You're someone who parrots, and you're feigning moral outrage.

Also, you're forgetting that these terms are Japanese, first and foremost. I'm not saying this song isn't sexual, but the way you use English definitions is misleading. "Mesugaki" character archetypes are usually flirtatious, but the character need not act sexual. A lot of times the way the character acts is because they are "copying" things that they've seen, that they have superficial knowledge. The terms for that is 「耳年増」。Sad Panda wiki is good, but you should use that for knowledge on how English speakers understand these terms, not as a Japanese dictionary. Same with non-slang dictionaries like Jisho.

Mesugaki do not necessarily have sexual desire for their targets, hence the trope of "teaching them a lesson" or "correction" (わからせ)。Mesugaki that are truly sexually driven are called 「ロリビッチ」、but we basically use "mesugaki" to describe both in English. メスガキ are something that actually exist in real like, unlike ロリビッチ。That term was used as an insult, like kusogaki, but came to be used to describe a character archetype.
 
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s8n

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in what way are they "taught a lesson" or "corrected"?

with rape

you think I don't know what a minor is? dial it back a little there killer
 

versvlees

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In fact I would go so far as to claim that most anti-loli grandstanders do so only because of their guilty conscience and little else. Oneangrygamer used to compile lists of all the personalities and journalists that spoke for "women and LGBT in videogames" only to then be caught red handed with stashes of real genuine CP. It was eerie how consistent it all was. One year HandsomChungus789 would write articles about how gamers are degenerates salivating over animu girls, the next time your hear about him was when Billy posted his mugshot because he got busted with 3TB of cheesy pizza.

IIRC our favorite Applebee's employee Sargon of Akkad did this too in video form. Naming, listing their crimes and posting their ugly mugs of male feminists being male feminists. That video is 30 minutes long. (beware male feminists #MeToo Sargon of Akkad)
 

DosonTheIrate

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in what way are they "taught a lesson" or "corrected"?

with rape
I see you've completely ignored the point of what I was saying. "Correction" is what happens in hentai. Mesugaki exist outside of hentai. Mutsuki in BA, for example. This is just an appeal to emotion fallacy.

you think I don't know what a minor is? dial it back a little there killer
Evidently not. "Minor" is a legal term describing persons under the age of majority in a given jurisdiction, ranging from 16-20. Fictional characters cannot be minors be definition because they aren't subject to the age of majority. A "drawing of a minor" would be a drawing of an actual person. You said "pornographic material depicting minors having sex." That's just CSEM or CSAM.
 

s8n

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stop being a fag, you're not speaking the truth

the music video is explicitly sexual, refers to sexualizing minors, and that's why people got angry

that was the original intent and theme of the video
 

JX475

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A person who was projecting their own guilty loudly about hating Lolicons and being a Dishonest Pedophile.

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There is two videos, and some tweets. There is also a fake Chinese Account that deleted their tweets after wishing death upon Lolicons.
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The more I think about it these types most likely shout loudly against Lolicons because they know the crimes they commit are so purely evil that it's easier for them to make it seem less worse than "being a Lolicon" I.E "These Lolicons are much worse than us Pedophiles" but when it comes down to it. It always ends up being that they have Grooming Servers on Roblox and Discord with actual Children and pretend to be Minors to get with them. Absolutely much worse than a Lolicon who sits in a corner and likes looking at short females.
 

s8n

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I sure hope you're not trying to justify the actions of twitter faggots here
I speak the truth at all times especially when it's unpopular.

I do not think a video should be taken down because it is making fun of sexualizing minors. I crack jokes about the CP people used to post on /b/ in the aughts all the time. Maybe I'll show you the USB line later. It doesn't change the fact that this video is, in fact, a sexually charged video.
 

HYppog

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Another re-upload with eng subs

This is just hilarious. It's something I often see on niconico a long time ago before they bent their knees to puritan overlords. If places like resetera find this offending it'd be no surprise, these fucks are stiffers than dead logs, yet always are prime suspect when it comes to actual CP.
 
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Delkore

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I speak the truth at all times especially when it's unpopular.

I do not think a video should be taken down because it is making fun of sexualizing minors. I crack jokes about the CP people used to post on /b/ in the aughts all the time. Maybe I'll show you the USB line later. It doesn't change the fact that this video is, in fact, a sexually charged video.
It may be sexually charged but it's still based on a fictional character, just because the voice actress is/was 15 doesn't justify the outrage. What's your point?
That's not even going into the argument that teenagers being treated like minors is another kike agenda that unfortunately took hold in the civilized world.
 

s8n

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It may be sexually charged but it's still based on a fictional character, just because the voice actress is/was 15 doesn't justify the outrage. What's your point?
That's not even going into the argument that teenagers being treated like minors is another kike agenda that unfortunately took hold in the civilized world.
idk who taught you to assume everyone is making a thousand implications every time they say something but I am not. I mean exactly what I say and I say exactly what I mean.

I mean exactly that this post:
These freaks think any young girl saying zako = mesugaki = loli hentai when the video is more like Takagi-san with a bit of Nagatoro.

is untrue. It is not correct, the freaks do not think that. They simply cannot tell the difference between reality and fiction because they are, in fact, that stupid. They are upset that this fictional character is being sexualized.

I mean EXACTLY what I say in this post, and I mean NOTHING else
 

Ravielsk

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Does anybody know something about it?
The posted warrant actually provides no real info on what the charge is. The infraction listed is just a reference to the general definition of CP under Canadian law. A definition whose only concrete qualifier is the age of 18. So its possible that he was busted for having a stash of genuine hardcore CP or that they simply got him for his in defense of loli video which contains some imagery of under 18 year olds. Considering its Canada both are equally possible.

This is the same country that had no qualms about sending foreign mercenaries against its own people and confiscating their bank accounts. So really using them as some kind of moral or even legal measuring stick is like arguing that there was nothing wrong with gulags because the USSR had them legalized under its own law.

The law cited on the warrant:
 
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s8n

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it's hard to know without more info because canada is a communist struggle session hellhole that will send you to a reeducation camp for disagreeing with the government

it could be anything from flipping off the police to raping a thousand children on little st. james island

well probably not that last one or he'd be on vacation in the maldives instead of on house arrest
 

Ravielsk

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it's hard to know without more info because canada is a communist struggle session hellhole that will send you to a reeducation camp for disagreeing with the government

it could be anything from flipping off the police to raping a thousand children on little st. james island

well probably not that last one or he'd be on vacation in the maldives instead of on house arrest
Well, if I am reading the warrant right they got him on the second statute(not sure if its the right term here):
(2) Every person who makes, prints, publishes or possesses for the purpose of publication any child pornography is guilty of
(a) an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years and to a minimum punishment of imprisonment for a term of one year; or

That particular line bundles together 4 very different kinds of transgressions so its quite literary impossible to tell what he even could have done. The formulation essentially puts owning a shakugan no shana DVD into the same basket as running your own kiddy BDSM dungeon. Canada also hides its sex offender registry from the public so there is no way to check if he is on there.

Although judging by the punishment I am willing to bet they found nothing of actual substance.
 

Ronnie21093

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Unrelated to the guy above, SAWTOWNE deleted his cover of Mimukauwa Nice Try. I didn't listen to the cover myself (Rather, didn't know it existed until recently) but from what I understand, it was a localization that made it clear he knew what the song was about. So he's clearly bullshitting about him having not understanding it.

So I guess according to him, a mesugaki Miku of unknown age shit talking you in Uno is wrong but somehow a fujoshi Miku in high school imagining sodomy between her male classmate and teachers is somehow okay? Bullshit, he probably got scared and caved to antis after the other guy from a few days ago took how his Kaai Yuki video.
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