"Why do people hate Vshojo?"

[Smugumin]

-"What's wrong with Vshojo? Why do people hate Vshojo?"
I'm tired of seeing this question and I want to make the definitive thread to send to people whenever this gets asked.

-TL;DR
They're unfunny, trashy, unprofessional, they create constant drama, they hate anime culture, they attack their fans, they allegedly cheat on their partners and backstab their friends, and they use their accounts as soapboxes to preach their political views. They're hypocrites and grifters and all around not good people.



-Nyanners:
got popular off making a loli voice and pandering to 4chan, then joined tumblr and got turned into a wokescold.
eventually stabbed her fans in the back and shat on weebs by calling lolicon "unacceptable and disgusting pedophilic crap, doesn't matter if they're just cartoons"

she's very quick to virtue signal and even quicker to drop her morals when there's profit to be made.
while her tumblr phase can be chalked up to just that, its unclear how much of a stick up her ass she still has, but last people checked "loli" was still banned on her discord.



-Vaebae:
went off on a rant about how hololive is a disgusting evil company then proceeded to butter up kiara for a collab that no one wanted, before being shut down by holo management.

https://files.catbox.moe/yif1bp.mp4

this resulted instead in a kiara-nyanners collab that received a ton of dislikes, but thankfully for them susan kept deleting them.

search this link:

on here:

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create a copy of a webpage that will always be up

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i archived the dislikes over time here, as you can see massive amounts were removed.
the real number can only be estimated, but i think anywhere between 5k to 10k true dislikes is plausible.



vae apparently also has some beef with another vtuber named Shilily or something

-Melody:
i thought she was one of the chillest members (despite doing porn and probably unintentionally funneling dozens of kiddies into her chaturbate streams)
but of course here we have her posting about politics, and her absolute necessity to sacrifice babies to moloch at a state level.

-Silvervale:
idk anything about her other than that she once had a fan ask something rather wholesome and proceeded to shit all over him.
she was so proud of this and so sure it made her look good that she clipped it, subbed it, and posted it on her twitter.
soon people pointed out how bad it made her look and she deleted it.
her post was: https://archive.ph/Xgqr6
this video sums it up well and shows her rant:

-Zentreya
more politics

Zentreya 🐲 VSHOJO on Twitter: "People re-enacted the George Floyd sc…

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Zentreya 🐲 VSHOJO on Twitter: "I don't know the appropriate response…

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Zentreya 🐲 VSHOJO on Twitter: "I can’t do it anymore, regardless of …

archived 6 Jan 2021 23:49:46 UTC

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-Froot
i've seen all kinds of rumors about her, that she cheated on her deployed husband several times, that she scammed people, but i don't know anything about that, and even if i did i guess i couldn't say since apparently she sues you lmao

Youtuber got sued by VShojo over a video of calling out Froot

Credit to this post https://varishangout.net/notice/AKVkMPd6xK0Bft2Tlg , posting it here cause it's a pain to search for shit on the Fediverse Here's the twitter post: Archive of tweet Looks like it's not actually a lawsuit but a request from lawyers asking him to remove the Vshitshow logo...

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EDIT: she is now donating thousands to child grooming org https://archive.is/VeyNz

-Nux situation
There's also the nux situation where they had piss poor communication with Nux_Taku, who was doing free work for them by trying to catch a doxer,
who they thanked for doing this, and then something snapped and instead of just talking to him to figure out what was going on they immediately went on a public witch hunt.
Vshojos flamed him on twitter and this caused a public shitshow as both communities started fighting over who was to blame.

Turkey tom did a good summary here:

They eventually realized they fucked up, and some apologized.

Zentreya 🐲 VSHOJO on Twitter: "@Nux_Taku I would personally, since I…

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There's also an instance where they apparently helped fund a CIA front

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1499481542132912131

if you liked this thread also check out:

Drama - VShojo/Ex-VShojo/Mythic rrats

Well we can all agree that Nyanners wins 1st place and since Turkey Tom is getting bored of making nyanners videos and larps here this might give him more content and this thread will give some users general ideas about the other vshojo members. 1st Place Nyanners we already have a thread...

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Do you dislike Vshojo? Why? Post below ↓

 

[VidMasterEon]

Has ironmouse done anything of note?
The only thing i dont really like about her is connor
That is more due to my innate disdain for anitubers

 

[Smugumin]

Has ironmouse done anything of note?
The only thing i dont really like about her is connor
That is more due to my innate disdain for anitubers

both mouse and hime helped start the nux shitshow as shown in turkey toms vid. i don't know of any other yabs tho

 

[Lost Branch]

Other than their very public histories, it's mainly that we can't even go six months without one of them causing some kind of shitshow. There's also this weird shit where the pinkcat has a lot of say in things. It seems like anything she says goes. The perfect example of this being her having a complete meltdown over Nux and having everyone turn on him. I'm sure it's all in turkeyboi's video though.

Oh, and isn't Zen actually a guy. Pretty sure that got admitted to as some point in time.

 

[PatioRama]

I wonder if there's anything 'meaty' in regards to their managers IE: Mowtendoo. I remember him making 'hyuck hyuck anime sucks' posts before being apart of Vshoujo but those were obvious jokes.

 

[immahnoob]

So let me explain in fewer words.
They're thots.

Thank you for coming to my ted talk.

Anyway, just compare it to most hololivers, say, like Korone. Do we have anything on Korone that would look bad? No. We actually don't have anything on Korone. Not even good things.
That's a sign of being a professional, or at least someone that is mindful enough that keeps their private life and their retarded opinions apart from their job.
But hey, with that you'd ask me what can retards like Nyanners do in this case?
They can apologize for their past behavior and not do it again, at least until they stop being vtubers or they can act retarded in their private time.
Unfortunately, that does not happen, they're e-thots, they can't go without acting like a stereotypical modern woman.

 

[NretsewThePerv]

prob a good idea to cross-link this thread in the OP as there is a lot of overlap and blackjack has been working on a lot of the Vshojo stuff already https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/vshojo-rrats.665/

I do think it's a good idea to have all the info in one convenient place tho. as stated will make it easier to link to people

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as for my own shitty thoughts. the problem with Vshojo and many other EN Vtubers is none of them are playing a character, there is no "Kfabe" as people like to call it. the Vtuber avatar may as well be a more expensive version of any other kind of avatar we all use for our own shit. they are just being themselves with no separation between them and the avatar, and that would be fine if they could at least be professional and keep their personal and work lives separate but none of them seen capable of doing that so they end up becoming just one and the same. It's why you see them going off about political bullshit, or not rebranding and dragging all of their past drama and misdeeds with them.

the problem with Vshojo, or at least its worst members is they did not or could not wipe the slate clean. moving to Vtubeing could have been a fresh start for some of them. but due to being to connected to there past online presances all them years of bad blood and baggage have followed them. and so they can either address this bad blood or ignore it and try to move on and be better people

but doing the first would then Streisand effect the bad blood to all the new ignorant fans they got. and doing the second would mean changing and being better as a person and being more professional. and sadly none of them want to do the second

 

[JesterMan]

>I hate Nyanners because she accused lolicons of being pedophiles
>Wants us to give a view to TurkeyTom, who did the exact same thing

Have some actual consistency

I am not going to watch Nyanners or TurkeyTom

 

[YakuInTheFlesh]

Has ironmouse done anything of note?

Mostly rumors, but there is the thing about her apparently having a kid, being less sick than she leads on to and being in her later 30's early 40s. I saw it mentioned a couple of times in various places, but that's about it. But besides that she is quite boring and got a huge boost from her sickness (sympathy) and her being friends with Connor (shippers) imo.

 

[ジエントＰ]

Funding CIA Front is directly funding weapons and munitions in war. Project HOPE is as much a Humanitarian organization as Civil Air Transport is a civilian airline company. I'm hoping through pure conjecture that some of what was funded was blown up by those missiles that hit the F.O.G unit, that's wishful thinking mind you. I think this was posted Elsewhere on the forum and I am simply repeating this, but it is another reason why people hate the org now cataloged in a thread on the topic of vshoujo.
Tangentially related and political rant:

Spoiler: political rant about abortion, tangential

Humanity starts at Zygote phase of development. Human rights include right to life and I stand behind that right. I don't support liberty, ones Liberty is another's tyranny. One can not be truly Free unless one is free to enslave, murder, or do whatever one wishes to everyone else. So I support Human life over personal liberty. For practical purposes it is necessary for sperm and egg to never combine if one wishes not to bring human life and the consequences henceforth. It's not hard. I think American law is finally becoming consistent on this matter murder of pregnant mother is considered double murder for a long time. Now its applying the same rules to the mother as well; Well, only in some states. Before America had a universal imposition enforcing this contradiction and now the states are able to decide to continue enforcing this contradiction or not. I'd Like to add a quote by Putin regarding the multipolarity of the world but I think it can also be applied to the united States as well. BEGIN QUOTE "Some people in the West believe that an aggressive elimination of entire pages from their own history... the demand to give up the traditional notions of mother, father, family and even gender... I would like to point out once again that they have a right to do this, we are keeping out of this. But we would like to ask them to keep out of our business as well. We have a different viewpoint...We believe that we must rely on our own spiritual values, our historical tradition and the culture of our multiethnic nation....The destruction of age-old values, religion and relations between people, up to and including the total rejection of family (we had that, too), encouragement to inform on loved ones – all this was proclaimed progress and, by the way, was widely supported around the world back then and was quite fashionable, same as today", END QUOTE. Some Religions require Human Sacrifice; One example is the Religion of Baal which prefers the youngest of Children's lives to be sacrificed. The ruling then runs counter to the freedom of religious practice and as such we see yet another contradiction in the American system. None of these contradictions could be reconciled without recognizing the nature of "freedom" and "liberty" and what that necessitates and to accept it and infringe on rights or cast it away and retain rights, the right to live in this case. Or keep both and continue in this weird limbo of clashing worldviews and epistemology.

 

[NretsewThePerv]

Okay what do you think about Smugumin telling you to give a view to an anti-lolicon?

dont keep up with all the latest drama, think I've heard he dont like the lolis but would need more info on what his exact stance is (maybe something you could make a thread about if you feel so strongly about it). I recall in his nyanners video we showed up as a source or something once. might have been linked in the other thread idk. hell might have been me who linked it. I dont recall it was a while ago. but if he is anti loli I would not do so again

if he is indeed anti loli then yea. prob best not to promote him. but again you gotta post evidence to back up your claims if you want people to take you seriously

They're pro-abortion there in vshojo though, but sure, it's not like this dumb fuck could debate anyway.

the problem is it's less about the fact they are pro-abortion, and more the fact they felt the need to soapbox about it on the main accounts. and debating the entire topic of yeetin dem kids is not really in the scope of what I think this thread is made for.

basically, if you want to debate the topic of baby yeeting do it in its own thread.

want to talk about how Vshojo members are dumb fucks for publicly tweeting about baby yeeting. go for it. just keep arguments on the pros and cons of baby yeeting to a minimum I guess

then again im not your dad

 

[immahnoob]

dont keep up with all the latest drama, think I've heard he dont like the lolis but would need more info on what his exact stance is (maybe something you could make a thread about if you feel so strongly about it). I recall in his nyanners video we showed up as a source or something once. might have been linked in the other thread idk. hell might have been me who linked it. I dont recall it was a while ago. but if he is anti loli I would not do so again

if he is indeed anti loli then yea. prob best not to promote him. but again you gotta post evidence to back up your claims if you want people to take you seriously




the problem is it's less about the fact they are pro-abortion, and more the fact they felt the need to soapbox about it on the main accounts. and debating the entire topic of yeetin dem kids is not really in the scope of what I think this thread is made for.

basically, if you want to debate the topic of baby yeeting do it in its own thread.

want to talk about how Vshojo members are dumb fucks for publicly tweeting about baby yeeting. go for it. just keep arguments on the pros and cons of baby yeeting to a minimum I guess

then again im not your dad

I got your point already, what I'm saying is that there's always a correlation with this type of garbage behavior. I wouldn't honestly ask anyone to vet with this in mind though, because it would be too stringent. I think they shouldn't be allowed at all to post from their main account about anything political, yes, I agree.
As for TurkeyTom, the fact of the matter is, his video is informative. Maybe we shouldn't post the link but post it as a webm.
Otherwise just use a different Youtuber.

 

[JesterMan]

As for TurkeyTom, the fact of the matter is, his video is informative. Maybe we shouldn't post the link but post it as a webm.

Yeah as long as it does not give him views, then it is alright

 

[Smugumin]

prob a good idea to cross-link this thread in the OP as there is a lot of overlap and blackjack has been working on a lot of the Vshojo stuff already https://varishangout.com/index.php?threads/vshojo-rrats.665/

I do think it's a good idea to have all the info in one convenient place tho. as stated will make it easier to link to people

added link to rrat thread at the end

Funding CIA Front is directly funding weapons and munitions in war. Project HOPE is as much a Humanitarian organization as Civil Air Transport is a civilian airline company. I'm hoping through pure conjecture that some of what was funded was blown up by those missiles that hit the F.O.G unit, that's wishful thinking mind you. I think this was posted Elsewhere on the forum and I am simply repeating this, but it is another reason why people hate the org now cataloged in a thread on the topic of vshoujo.

added to thread

 

[Halo]

this is a thread about vshojo not why you want to kill babies or why you want to let them suffer with a family that doesnt want them
please abide by forum etiquette and stay on topic.

I'm moving all the abortion sperging to it's own thread, carry on your argument there and leave this for shitting on vshojo

 

[VidMasterEon]

I dont feel i 100% understand the Nux situation
The main thing bothering me is the motive
Who benefits?
It doesnt seem like a deliberate attempt to perform a character assassination as his interactions prior to the backstab dont seem like it was a deliberate attempt to entrap him

 

[FunsLeaf]

I dont feel i 100% understand the Nux situation
The main thing bothering me is the motive
Who benefits?
It doesnt seem like a deliberate attempt to perform a character assassination as his interactions prior to the backstab dont seem like it was a deliberate attempt to entrap him

VShitShow was trying to cover up their fuck up by slandering Nux who was trying to help people not get doxxed, doesn't know what the Streisand effect is.

 

[NretsewThePerv]

VShitShow was trying to cover up their fuck up by slandering Nux who was trying to help people not get doxxed, doesn't know what the Streisand effect is.

basically this
Nux went public about the fact there was a scam email going on using the Vshojo brand to try and phish Vtubers that he himself got.

and this made Vshojo look bad. you would think if there was some scam going around using your name you would say something about it like "hey look there is a scam going around using our name if you get an email claiming to be from us its not" or something like that. to let people know so they dont fall for it

but Vshojo sat on this for 2 months all while people were in fact falling for the scam. their excuse was something like they were "investigating it privately or something. but none the less Nux going public basically showed how much they had mismanaged this and like I said. made them look bad

but raver then admit the fuck up and move on the dumb pink cat had a public sperg out about it and tossed Nux under the bus making all kinds of wild claims about him and shit. a few others like Zen also join in. and it became a shit show. I dont have all the stuff on hand but sure it's out there

but yea that's a basic run down. #NuXDidNothinWorng

 

[Lost Branch]

Don't forget the part where Nux was in full communication with their CEO, head of security, and Mel about the video prior to it's release, and that all three of them watched the video giving their approval. Right after the release, you had all those twatter messages from Mel and that statement from the company thanking Nux for the work he did, only for all of it to be deleted the second pink loser had a complete psychological meltdown about it. They then pretended they had no idea about the video prior to it's release, just showing everyone how two faced they are. I'd say out of all of the most known vtuber companies, they're the closest to a black company. It's going to be interesting once one of these chicks decide to break off from the company and do a full statement on what's actually going on.

 

[blackjack]

I never understood the appeal of nyanners or lilypichu being big on 4chan to than dragging that popularity to twitch? I am assuming a 3rd big figure that does get mentioned time to time there and was even compared to those two was katya lischina( https://archived.moe/r9k/thread/11999254 or minami nyan) which i think in terms of looks exceeds nyanners and lilypichu but I still dont understand the big appeal nyanners and lily got since they just look average to me?

more interesting stuff on nyanners https://4chanarchives.com/board/r9k/thread/29743594 oddly curious about the gmc rrats.